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shit: >>123633439

grow a beard edition

>New to the thread? Look here before embarrassing yourself
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: trade.tf bazaar.tf backpack tf/classifieds tf2outpost.com
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: trade.tf backpack.tf
Scrapbanking: scrapbank.me scrapwh.com scrap.tf
Betting: saloon.tf

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com

>IRC
lmfao fuck off
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>>123814989
Holy fuck.
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Name a worse weapon
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>>123815012
this triggers the new fag
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>>123815182
anything pyro related

if you cant kill a mini sentry in 2015 you are absolute shit at tf2
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>>123815182
How about name a more useless weapon
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>>123815182
u wot m8
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What was the funniest instance of butthurt to come out from the halo fiasco?
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http://backpack tf/classifieds/?steamid=76561197978508626
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>>123815401
they look awful, why do people buy them?
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>>123815943
theyre comfy and affordable
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>>123815943
Because there are actually good Adidas that exist, not like the ugly model he posted.
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>>123816151
I think he posted them because blue and white.
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>>123816151
>>123815943
>>123816042
>>123815401
>buying nigger brand shoes

can you Chucks kill yourselfs?
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>>123816151
>those
>good

am I being rused?
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>refined metal isn't marketable

what the fuck am I supposed to do with the 2 I have sitting around then?

I stopped playing years ago
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>>123816374
lol it's not even worth 25 cents for the both of them
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im not even worth 25 cents
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>>123816581
why do you think adidas are nigger shoes, they have a few good looking shoes like stan smiths and they dont fall apart quickly

chucks are really uncomfortable too
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>Heavy is the easiest class
>Just don't stand where you can get sniped
>Protect your medic from Pyros and Scouts
>Watch for Pyros closing in on corner don't rev until you're sure
>Keep good accuracy on airborne targets
>Do hit and run until your medic's über charged
>Do not rev at some position disadvantage where you can get instantenously killed
>Listen to your medic's Help!, Spy! and "I'm fully charged" calls
>Let über'd medic to run before you on crowded choke points
Oh-kay it appears I suck at heavy still. Mind teaching me a few tricks /tf2g/? May be some foolproof weapon loadouts even. I had a blast with Steak+KGB but still meh.
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Someone post the webm on badwater where a pyro chases a soldier into the building on last point and the soldier rocket jumps on to the lamp and the pyro runs in and can't find him then the soldier kills him
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im bad water
*liquefies*
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Prove me wrong. You literally can't, it's the most accurate tf2 chart ever
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>>123818217
me on the left
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>>123818217
As a medic main I totally agree
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>>123818217
faggot medic main
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>>123818443
I'm actually a soldier main.
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>>123818727
no wonder scout is at the bottom in faggots
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>>123818217
Awwww....looks like some baby's mad he keeps getting sniped.
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can girls be faggots
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>>123818884
>sniper
>Skill

ROFL all comp snipers are aimbots/trigger bots

prove me wrong

you literally cant
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>>123818828
Sorry but scout mains are always bronies who wear pink fast learners.
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can you fuck off
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why
:r
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24v24 servers fucking when?

I want to play Dustbowl with massive teams.
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>>123819034
sorry you got fragged by a scout you big n*wb
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>>123818217
>spy not being the biggest faggots
otherwise fairly accurate
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>>123819278
>24 snipers vs 24 engies

why?
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>>123819278
>playing on modded /64 (I believe it was that) server of dustbowl before valve started strictly enforcing player counts
>literally 26 RED engineers and 6 snipers versus 32 BLU spies
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>>123819650
What if sniper and engie is banned?
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I main stock demo. I ironically do the schadenfreude taunt after every kill I make. Is there anything you'd like to say to me?
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>>123820034
hey youre cool
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>>123820015
>I main stock demo.
Okay?
>I ironically do the schadenfreude taunt after every kill I make.
Why?
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>play overwatch
>have fun
>get on TF2
>die to random crits

great game fuckwits
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>>123820513
Find a server without random crits? Not that hard fuckwad
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>>123820513
>not in the overwatch beta

:_:
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>>123819781
>before valve started strictly enforcing player counts
but the limit has always been 32
?:
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>>123820513
>get in the beta
>cant run it on my shitty computer
oh well
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>>123820983
You used to be able to go into
The source code and change it
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>>123821558
tf2 source code isnt public
does your dad work for gabe newell
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>>123821701
?? Yes it has
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>>123821996
"no"
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*shits*
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>>123822061
fuck off fsidu
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*fucks on*
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do anyone of you guys have the no hats mod?
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>>123822302
>hits two easy arrows
Why did you make a webm of this?
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>>123822710
>every webm this guy makes.webm
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fsidu gave me a thing for free
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night bros
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>>123822710
purely to impress you because all i want is for you to care about me :(
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quad vs clockwork who wins
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>>123822971
the audience
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>>123822971
clockwork

quad is washed up
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im washed up
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i hope aida would take me for a swim and wash me in her shark juices
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comfy world of warcraft
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>>123822928
go back to sucking sol's and aus's dick instead
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How do I play demoman
No m1+ m2 memes pls
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>>123823493
dont
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>>123823493
Stock Sticky spam. I don't even use his primary or melee
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>>123823454
i have actually never spoken to aus in my life duuuuuude
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stay safe /tf2g/
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I tried playing a videogame with someone and it made me grumpy

how do i not be grumpy
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>>123823374
I like to play scout
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>>123823649
Play another game for a while, come back when you feel ready
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>>123823909
that wont help
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>someone asks me how to get good at aiming the crossbow and to hit at long ranges
>tell them to go practice it on bots using the crossbow only as the healing device
Is there anything else I can tell them how to get gud since the bot thing is the only thing I have done/needed
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>>123824145
stfu
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>>123824145
Tell them to tell their teammates to stand still when they're going to arrow them
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>>123824382
thats bad
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>>123823649
Don't play said video game with said person?
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>>123824801
You're bad
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/dokyun

biggest faggot in this general
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>>123824910
We're bad*
FTFY
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>>123825021
i thought he stopped coming here a while ago
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>>123823949
Why not
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>>123825097
nah he does he just pretends he doesn't and acts like he's above tf2g
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>>123825021
shut up geel
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>>123825231
oh
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>>123825231
how do you know though
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>>123825421
because his posts are easy to tell
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Is the NA vs EU /tf2g/ showmatch gonna be a thing? I'd be excited to watch that
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>>123825572
probably never
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>>123825716
i heard the EU team is ready
its up to NA now to prepare one
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>>123825021
>anti-irc kek
lol!

>>123825572
no
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>>123826012
i don't think the NA tf2gs really care
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>>123825572
>>123825716
>>123826012
>>123826158
na team will be a bunch of trash circlejerkers like how the tf2g teams are trash kids
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>>123825572
This is our first time hearing of this, but our best and brightest can attend the NA team.
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>>123826518
>na team will be a bunch of trash circlejerkers like how the tf2g teams are trash kids
just like eu right?

have any eu tf2gs made prem?
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rei here

what do

1-3 play game 1
4-6 watch game
7-9 don't
0 kill everypone
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tfw will never feel aidas magnificent slippery ass on my face
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>>123826745
dont think so lol
i think the best player or players are mid
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>>123826745
kaptain was a tf2g
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>>123827116
shut the fuck up already
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>>123827218
just report
this autists have been called out several times but never listen
report their shit so that newcomers don't cringe
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>>123827280
its human doing it
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>>123827547
yeah it is

fuck off
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fuck on
on aida that is
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>>123827837
its not
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>>123827992
yes it is
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>>123828062
>it
:x
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>>123815012
Post cool Engies
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Post cool sharks
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>>123828761
they will never put in a 4th cosmetic slot
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>>123820513
>Play Overwatch
>2 hour queue time for a match
>Finally get into a match
>Jump on someone super out of position
>He presses the win button
>I die
Hmm...
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>>123828761
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>>123825572
NA would cream EU.
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>>123830463
where is dj now
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>>123830463
OH YEAH FIGHT ME MAN BRING YOUR PANSY ASS TEAM HERE AN.... Oh wait you said NA would win

Carry on.
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is 3 ref and 3 rec
3.88?
or I am incorrect?

want to get a killer exclusive ti complete my poorfag set
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>>123830578
He disappeared, but Stary knows. Probably CS:GO still.
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>>123831061
3 Ref and Rec is 3.99/4 Refined
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>>123831061
3 rec = 1 ref
You are embarrassing yourself
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no thats 4 refined
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>>123830463
thats if they actually show up.
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>>123831061
3.88 would be 3 ref 2 rec and 1 scrap
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>>123831215
thanks
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So like anyone selling keys for 1.80 pp? Feel like unboxing rn
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>>123831215
>>123831351
Wait I think I fucked up it's 3 ref 2 rec and 2 scrap
that would be 3.88 the other one is 3.77 my bad
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>>123831438
pp?
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>>123831438
Look through /r/tf2trade

There's a dude selling 43 for $1.83, at the moment. Prolly the best you'll find without digging a bit more

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/3usj0i/h_48_tf2_keys_2_buds_w_183_each_549_each_paypal/
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>>123832008
Paypal probably
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>black box
>conch
>pocket medic
>thinking you're good
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>>123832136
I've never bought keys before so I wanted to do it within a community I'm comfortable with tbeh, but no luck here I guess
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>>123832516
I think Bond sells some keys.
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>>123832516
/r/tf2trade users are pretty honest and reputable. I've done plenty of PP trades for Keys in bulk, so you ought to be fine
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>>123815012
>beard edition
>doesn't post the music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm2xvO6e6f8
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>>123832418
>not shortstop with quick fix medic
:^)
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>>123832418
>mfw a high silver/low gold player is shittalking in a pub about how much better he is than everyone
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>mfw no friends to play tf2 with
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How would you fix tf2 ?

People keep calling it broken, but I don't see any glaring errors- maybe new maps would be cool, and that is about it....

>>123834004
steam id pham?
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>>123834162
>pham
>>>/r/eddit
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I will play team fortress two with you!
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>>123834004
>>123834278


wait.... you proll have anime for avatars and run obnoxious cosmetics.... nvm
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>>123834278
this shitter has like 400 hours lol human pls go
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>get new mouse
>scroll wheel swaps weapon 4 times in the distance my old mouse did 1

It's always something.
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>>123834523
>>123834278
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>>123834523
post a server
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>>123834571
>using the mouse to switch weapons
ever heard of numbers?
its as easy as one, two, three
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>>123834620
i dont know who that is
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>>123834661
I like to keep my fingers firmly on the WASD keys thank you.
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>>123834571
Wow, that sounds like an extremely terrible problem that will cause a catastrophic impact on your life.

Just kidding, fuck you you fucking whiny brat.
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>>123834721
shitter
i bet you dont even have autoswitch and click everytime you switch weapon
go die
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>>123834896
No I do have autoswitch.

I just see no reason to stretch my fingers to three keys when the scroll wheel can do the job of all three.
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>>123834680
its me
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does tf2g not pub together anymore
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>>123834571
Use this script

// primary
alias "+primary" "slot1;+attack;"
alias "-primary" "-attack"

// secondary
alias "+secondary" "slot2;+attack;"
alias "-secondary" "-attack"

// melee
alias "+melee" "slot3;+attack;"
alias "-melee" "-attack"

// BINDINGS
bind "mouse1" "+primary"
bind "mouse2" "+secondary"
bind "mouse3" "+melee"
bind "PGUP" "+attack"
bind "PGDN" "+attack2"

If your mouse has the two buttons on the side.
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>>123834943
in tense situations the scroll will fuck you up
theres almost no game where having something as critical as switching weapons on the scroll is good
used to have push to talk on the scroll and it would fuck me up big time if i was in a fight or playing med
you dont have to stretch your fingers that much to press 1,2,3
you get used to it
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>>123834947
>me

i dont know who that is
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play with me
192.69.97.67:27066
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>>123835329
>192.69.97.67:27066

Valve NA Badwater
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>>123835329
>220 ping
are you trying to make me cry
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>>123815012
did you make sure to have fun in tf2 today?

i did!
i used buffalo steak sandwhich and killing gloves of boxing to go on a SICK POTTIS STREAK
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>>123835647
yes

i clicked on some people's heads
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>>123835014
no

everyone here is a bunch of passive aggressive insecure twats

if you play with someone else they call you a circlejerker and shit talk you because they think you deserve it
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>>123835720
pretty much
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>tfw i main pyro
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>>123835647
I gave my sandvich this one time to an allied soldier
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>>123835506
post a server hosted in your third world country then
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>>123835720
really, that's pretty rude

i like playing video games with you guys
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>>123835908
you did well!

>>123835692
you will not turn my battlefield into a campground!
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I recently got this lovely HUD but its all fucked up. Its all bunched together like its for 4:3 aspect ratio. The internet thingy is supposed to be all the way in the bottom right. This is 7hud and its updated. Any ideas? There was only 1 version by the way there weren't separate versions for different aspect ratios.
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>>123835942
it isn't rude it's the truth
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>>123836085
It kind of looks like a Centered HUD which centers everything so you can see it easily.
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>>123835116
In my experience I've found remapping my attack buttons is a living hell to get used to (literally after days I'm still pressing the wrong button to uber) but I'll consider remapping pgup and pgdn to my scroll wheel.
>>123835123
I don't think you appreciate how I can't even reach Q properly with my pinkie with how I rest my hands on a keyboard, I have to move my hands a good distance just to hit the number keys. Besides I've never had problems using the scroll wheel normally, it just switches too fast with this new mouse.
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>>123836089
but i'm a literal who and i genuinely enjoyed playing tf2 with tf2g
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>>123836183
shits all fucked up though
>>123836307
not at all
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>>123836085
i started my game up to check if net_graphpos will change anything and it moves it around, try that

>>123836412
oh sorry i dont know then

try net_graphproportionalfont and then move it with net_graphpos?
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>>123833920
>Some Pyro is pubbing, toting a ugc gold medal, unusuals, and absolutely retarded weapon names
>Reassigned to the opposite team
>Pick Demoman and taunt after every kill
>He keeps trying to memeblast and it never works
>Disconnects after domination
This class is a joke along with anyone who mains it.
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>>123836484
Besides the scoreboard it looks pretty good though. I got the netgraph on the bottom right though, thanks for the help.
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>>123836628
you're welcome
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could anyone help me with a question about steam badges?

do the most recent ones show up on your badges thing? is there any way to organize those? i want to craft 2 badges up to level 5 but i dont want one of them to not show up there
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I fixed it!!11
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>>123837926
>fixed it but lost 90 FPS
RIP
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>>123840278
This, but unironic.
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>>123815598
I didn't get my halo because I tested out the software the day before they released the patch banning it. I never even got a hat drop because it was such a short time span.
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>there are people in this very thread that think Soldier is balanced
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>>123840278
I kinda laugh at gay niggas who think they are normal.
>>123832136
>trading
I wonder if escrow is gonna kill some sites, or at least kill csgo betting, oh boy I wonder if csgo is gonna be as popular as it is without betting.
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>>123840495
>there are people in this thread that think Soldier takes skill
>There are people in this very thread that think Soldier MGE means anything

Yeah guys, Spam the floor man takes loads of skill
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>>123840495
he is though, you're just bad
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>>123840787
>ebic good at everything character
>bad
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>>123840514
CSGO/Dota betting will crash because every game needs to basically be planned a month in advance so the bets can close a week before the match AND games are constantly in the rotation.

sweetstakes.tf and its predecessor, csgojackpot are up in flames though.
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>>123840749
Easiest class to get into- like the medic- but has a high skill ceiling- also like the medic
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>>123840749
>>123840495
>>123840787
What's funny is that I always see a soldier top fragging and or with a pocket medic, I wonder why is never a spy or scout.
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>>123840956
>sweetstakes.tf and its predecessor, csgojackpot are up in flames though.
What do you mean by up in flames?
>CSGO/Dota betting will crash because every game needs to basically be planned a month in advance
lmao
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>>123840956
>implying they wont whitelist those betting sites like they did with the captcha
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>>123840997
It's because people are starting to realize Soldier is unbalanced and needs a nerf. Either direct or indirect.
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>>123841335
the bazinga boobambles

no random crits

fixed
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>>123841097
Considering how TI5's bracket was announced less than a week before it started, this could be problematic. This isn't even accounting for potentially massive oddswaying by pulling bets during the week-long bet lock.

sweetstakes.tf and csgojackpot are going to burn though. The reason they make profit is because of morons who buy into the instant gratification of a shot at profit (and streamers who match the aforemention criteria). Delaying results by a week for escrow "kills the hype" in a sense, especially when you factor in the ability to pull a bet.
>>123841212
They pulled captcha entirely because of autismpost botters whining their one-click profit was now denied. Valve did a terribad job at whitelisting and basically only got a third of csgolounge's bots and literally nothing else. I wouldn't expect escrow whitelists any time soon.
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>>123841737
A better one would be reverting the nerfs on Pyro and Heavy, for example.
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You've gotta accept the facts.
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>>123840574
>no :)
who are you then?
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>>123842023
>Google
How does it feel knowing that the botnet thinks you're a scrub?
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>>123842023
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>>123841851
Hasn't Pyro literally gotten nothing but buffs from day 1?
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>>123842073
>talks about browser instead of picture
Assblasted Soldier main found.
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>>123842023
>>123842236
>search autofills are facts
um....
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Make airblast actually push people instead of stunning them and killing all momentum.

Give airblast force range falloff, even bigger push at point blank than before, make people hop at farthest range

Give pyro matching solly/demo resistance to reflected projectile splash damage so he doesn't get punished as harshly for reflects.

Decrease det jump damage.

yw
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>>123840914
you're bad

>>123840997
you're bad
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>>123842479
dumb frogposter
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>>123842431
Who said it was facts?
If you know anything about TF2 you know Soldier is in need of a nerf, the nerfs on Heavy and Pyro indirectly buffed him.
>>123842510
Assblasted Soldier main found
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>>123842590
i don't even main soldier lol, i can slay soldiers with ease

assblasted bad player detected
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>>123842631
Prove he doesn't need a nerf then.
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>>123842757
not him but burden of proof isnt on him jackass

you should be proving why he is op and needs a nerf
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>>123842810
He's bad at nothing but range, and only Sniper is really good at that, so it's not even a good argument.
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soldier is only overpowered with 5 ping
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>>123842190
This
it is heavy who needs help

>>123840997
scout is for capping and getting single kills-
spy is extremely situational and can only kill one class at a time
soldier's rocket launcher is damaging- can kill multiple classes with one rocket there are counters to soldier like spy and sniper but both classes are difficult to use for pubs
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>>123842757
Prove he's overpowered because all you guys have been spouting is
>hurr he bad
Give me some actual reasons why he's overpowered
>inb4 butthurt soldier main
I play medic
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>>123842972
So he can tank do AoE massive damage and has mobility

nice
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>>123842757
>Scout
>Run up to him and meatshot 8)

>Pyro
>>>Pyro

>Demoman
>Don't let him bomb you like a retard

>Heavy
>Look at him

>Engineer
>Press 2 then hold m2 while looking at where he's peeking from

>Medic
>Maining Medic

>Sniper
>Just shoot him in the head, bodyshot him if he's jumping for instant crater

>Spy
>Stab him in the back or shoot him in the head
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>he complains about soldier
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>>123843041
He excels at everything but range, and only Sniper is really good at that so it's not a very good argument.
200 health, giving him the second most health in the game.
Damage, for an average, is 90, two shotting all but one class.
One of the mobility in the game, Rocket Jumping.
And was built to be a jack of all trades, evident in his secondaries, and yet because of the nerfs on other classes he's gotten too good.
>>123843120
>this is his argument
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>>123843312
yeah except he still gets shit on by a scout that knows how to play scout
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>>123843312
When he uses his mobility he is exceptionally vulnerable
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>less damage than stock
>significantly more splash area than stock
>less ammo in launcher than stock
would this be a fun soldier weapon?
What about if it had knockback instead of large splash area?
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>>123843368
>he can't shoot a scout with a explosive
>>123843410
Literally how. Unless you're pogoing like a retard you're moving very fast, and the lost health is no problem if you're not new to this map and know where health kits are.
baka
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BAD PLAYERS:
engineer > soldier > heavy > pyro > demoman > spy > scout > sniper

OKAY PLAYERS:
demoman > soldier > heavy > spy > scout > sniper > engineer > pyro

GOOD PLAYERS:
sniper > scout > soldier > demoman > pyro > heavy > engineer > spy


tl;dr pyro mains tired of getting dominated by soldier mains at every skill level of TF2
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one of my real life crushes got my number and randomly texted me today and then added me on snapchat and I've never talked to her before guys woah what if she's pranking me and then kills me
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>>123843543
Thanks for the blogpost.
Unsubbed.
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>>123843462
you have to ask why would you use it

would using this open new ways to play?

>>123843482
mostly vulnerable in that there will be critical and exploitable times of low health

most health kits are inside and not easily landed on so there is a chance
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>>123843614
if a rocket launcher had knockback I think it would be fun
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>>123843614
>all maps are inside and have their health kits inside, so far from doors to the point it is problematic for a class
Okay amigo.
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>>123843729
Not all maps, but as a rule of thumb, health kits are not in open spaces
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>>123843046
His mobility comes at a cost of health- one rocket jump with a conventional rocket and you lose about 30 health- with the fall damge another 10-15

one rocket jump and he has same health as a medic- another and he is pretty much a fat scout with more damage over range

>>123843210
scout is a hard class to play well- and is reckt by soldier indoors
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i don't understand why do the top tf2 players think scout is the strongest and not soldier????

because movement + hitscan > splash

inb4 >competitive tf2
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>>123843762
Have you never played TF2?
Or have you only played 2 maps?
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>>123843865
I can ask you the very same thing
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>>123843830
Because instant damage is better than delayed damage
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>>123843830
>>123843915


is there any room in competitive scout for the force-a-nature? that gun is just so hit and miss
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>>123843779
>His mobility comes at a cost of health-
>gunboats
>medic
>that item that heals you consistently
this nigga man
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>>123844067
no it pales in comparison to stock
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>>123843536
i dont understand this

please make an easier thing
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>>123843830
I think every class but pyro engineer and spy are fun to play
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>>123843779
>medic
>health kit
>gunboats
>conch
Literally no downside to rocket jumping.
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>>123844165
Me too, but spy can be fun sometimes
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>>123844093
with gunboats he loses shotgun putting him at disadvantage when he is reloading his rockets

also what about your own medic?
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>>123844231
>he loses shotgun putting him at disadvantage
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>>123844067
No, the extra damage isn't enough for the loss of ammo and the increased difficulty to aim with the knockback. Most top level scouts can kill in 2-3 shots regardless. Making the FaN useless.
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>>123844231
>with gunboats he loses shotgun putting him at disadvantage
Also, Medic and health kits.
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>>123844306
I've been killed several times as soldier reloading my rockets- when I could have switched to shotgun and finished them off

I am a heavy main for context
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>>123844306
It's very true

His weapon is slow to load and with finite ammo.

even more restrictive if he's jumping around like a madman.
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>>123844396
>I've been killed several times as soldier reloading my rockets
>I can't realize I have 4 rockets and use cover
Your incompetence doesn't make the class balanced, thanks.
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>>123844396
>i am in danger
>look ground
>rocket jump cross map
>get health pack
hi guys i am bak
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>>123844516
it is a little hard to find cover when you are being swarmed by a scout and a pyro
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