Hex Editing Edition
Old thread >>123602514
Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki
>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf
>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
>Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE
>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod
>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.
Conquest of Elysium 4:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t3dkv8r7wucae1f/coe4_4.0_money_fastbattle_2res.7z
>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the pastebin
>Read the memes
>I want to play X
Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man
Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor
Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod
Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca
Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum
Edgy Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
R'lyeh: How many do you need?
Are Zotz good for anything?
>>123784534
They're cheap so you can get lots of them fast.
>>123784534
For actually fighting other troops, no.
For raiding and expansion, they're pretty fucking good because of how cheap they are and the flying/stealth combo.
Dom 4/Coe4 interface mods:
https://mega.nz/#F!slcSECKR!3w21BNllKxxEZOXgC--41g
CoE 4.03 (not cracked yet)
https://mega.nz/#F!I50FybxK!sUZpaNl593cUhXOWNLyA9A
>>123784707
Does flying provide any benefits outside of combat?
>>123784910
Flying is insanely fucking useful just because you will be able to move multiple provinces almost all the time across different terrain types. It also lets you attack into enemy territory without having to be adjacent to the province you want to take, so you can swarm multiple provinces at once. You can attack multiple provinces at once then regroup into a bigger force to take on any enemy force in the area. The flying nations pay for this by having their troops generally be pretty shitty at combat against non flyers (zots are basically size 2 units with size 1 stats, and caelum units are size 3 units with human tier stats). But it's still a very powerful attribute to have.
>>123784910
>does being able to ignore obstacles and avoid enemy territory and be able to ignore earth based attacks and almost everything that slows you down have advantage outside of combat???
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ATTN ALL: Hinnom is throne-rushing. He's got two light SCs going for thrones near me, and given his global, he clearly knows what he's doing.
>>123785351
Great, thank you. I wasn't familiar with the mechanics
>>123785761
Are you high? Melquarts are H1
Ebin as always Sy
>>123785761
>throne rushing
>on the farmville simulator map
What a fag. Admin, set him AI, please.
>>123785761
>rushing
>turn 50
>>123785761
>thronerushing when you need 26 points to win
>thronerushing when you need a minimum of 11 thrones to win
>throne rushing
You have 3 thrones claimed, two more in your territory, two more in indie provinces near you, and if you go through 120-153 that I'm leaving pd less for your army, that's another one.
>Player have cast burden of Monday
>All players are forced to go to work
checkmate guys
>>123787697
>implying I have a job
You'll never get me, Ermor!
are there any spells that only affect mindless or lifeless units?
>>123787780
Just you wait i have all the time in the world
>>123787697
>tfw lost my job to a fire
i-it's nice to have a vacation
>>123787697
>Not living in Pacific Oceania
Also, agartha, once you stop being paranoid maybe you can respond if you want me to help clear out indies around your fort in 81.
this hurt me, a lot.
so much so that I'm moving my bloodhunters in to HellbindHeart while my yogis spam arcane bolts instead.
however a ton of shit managed to reincarnate, which is weird.
>>123788921
There's literally nothing of value in that castle.
In CoE4, how do I use libraries?
Do they even serve a purpose?
>>123789269
There's tenser the great sage. An S7 mage
>>123791478
The more libraries you own, the bigger the chance of being able to hire mages.
>>123791505
>S7 indies
Jesus people in the center got weird shit.
Starke the W5 druid is the worst/best thing i saw on my corner of the map and I didn't even get to recover his item.
>>123791790
Does it also effect the quality of the mages or just the frequency?
>>123791963
this is my third shot at a high level caster, the second killed my pretender and the first all died, CHARM A SHIT.
>>123792389
>gatestone crafting chassis
>>123792195
I just the frequency, but you'll also get non-national mages which are nice, especially pyromancers..
>>123792605
I'm hoping to get a king of ele fire out of him too.
>>123792389
I seduced an A6 Windmaster. He then promptly turned into an A2 Windmaster. You're wasting your time.
>>123793335 No, mind control just gives you a basic chassis, charm and hellbind heart give you the paths he has already.
Anyone knows when we will be able to mod CoE4 properly?
>>123794198
Even if he does drop to his base, S1 he still has all the great sage pretender chassis properties (inspiring researcher research bonus etc) so he's still kind of worth it even without the S magic.
>>123787506
Well I'm not worried about what I have.
>>123788363
>stop being paranoid
No, never.
>clear out the indies
I'll have a little army over there to deal with it soon anyway. Against that kind of stuff, I might take like five chaff casualties total if I'm very unlucky.
>>123794275
Late december is what I've heard.
Fuck MM1
There are five land provinces adjacent to my capital, one which the Admin has un-linked but that's the one in Breytos's cap circle.
I appreciate the message Arco, and all the islands adjacent to your cap are yours, as can be the shores of Asia minor and the island of Sicilia. Crete however I must insist on.
Also, province 196 appears to be an underwater farm.
Also, we've had some requests to stop the turnly Admin messages.
>>123784284
let me know if you find r'lyeh.I know who you are and you know who I am.
>>123798812
>you know who I am.
B-but I don't...
>>123799360
why do you want r'lyeh to talk to you? your phrase made it obvious in case you are who I think you are. Forget it, if you don't get it i will just message you ingame.
And for those whom didn't see my slightly too late attempt to make a new thread, my victory over Formia, with mages singing "Do you hear the people sing", screenshots of that and not the pile of dead elves upon request.
>>123796121
don't worry, it won't stay worthy of the 'farm' title for long, what with your toxic dominion and all.
Assuming you have access to them, how do shadowbrand and firebrand compare to frostbrand?
>>123801051
Firebrand is armor piercing, so it's often better against the target actually being hit, and shadowbrand has a large area of effect for its on-hit so it's good against chaff or when you're attacking a backline of mages that might have a few bodyguards. Both are used less frequently just due to gem cost.
>>123801051
If you're just thugging then the frost brand is pretty much the best since it's so cheap compared to the others, and water gems aren't particuarly valuable compared to earth and death gems.
>>123801051
Firebrand is better if you're looking to take on someone with undead chaff, since they're resistant to cold.
Shadow brand isn't worth the price. The other brands work as well or better outside of very specific circumstances.
>>123794872
Aww fuck, I want my mods ;_;.
>>123803114
Then get to hex editing :)
>>123803624
I don't know what is it of how I could mod for that. Any tutorial?
What are your favorite nations lads? I for one am a big fan of the skelemans.
>>123804086
skelemans are shit shut the fuck up and go home kid
>>123804086
i have always loved flying units but dislike Caelum because they are too gay. I also love blood nations and used to play Mictlan in Dominions 3.
I bought dominions 4 on release, but stopped playing for a lot of time. After comming back I found Xibalba: a blood nation with basic flying troops. I totally fell in love with them.
>>123804086
Agartha.
>like to sit in the dark and build up defensively
>capable of going anywhere
>olms
Aqua-
I'm willing for peace. Borders same as they were. This isn't an admission of weakness - I can push you back, and will do so. But by doing so I will lose to the 3 (three) other nations invading me. And they'll get all my stuff and then swarm over you in turn.
If I can free up the forces i'm shoveling into you, I can at least make a fight of it. It'll give you time to rebuild/overrun someone else in the meantime. I like your tactics and moxy, and I consider the other nations cowards, so i'd prefer you end up in a better position, overall.
Have a think about it and get back to me.
>>123804086
Mictlan because I'm a scrub and they seem like babby's first not MA Ermor nation
>>123804086
la mar
>>123804086
Abysia because stupidest lava men, crossbreeding experiments, insane warlocks, the entire nation lives inside a volcano and never wins
>>123806563
who else is invading you?I might be interested in helping you
Sorry I've been a bit slow on turns and for whatever stales may have happened.
Been crazy busy with a wedding, thanksgiving, and my grandfathers cancer metastasizing. Things are calmer now and I should be able to keep up with the games I'm in.
The manual doesn't explain it, what does "Bodyguard 3" mean? It says every bodyguard has 50% chance of being there when the commander is attempted to be assassinated, and the Bodyguard skill increases the chances, but it doesn't tell you how much.
Also I assume the amount of bodyguards in a battle is capped by maybe 5 or 10, right? Does Bodyguard increase the number of bodyguards there? or just the chances of them being there but without exceding the cap?
>>123812429
bodyguard 3 means they will have +3 morale when set to guard commander during a battle
>>123812429
It's a roll against the patience/assassin level of the assassin to determine whether or not the bodyguard shows up. Any unit set to guard adds 0 to the roll. Higher level assassins are more likely to avoid bodyguards, higher level bodyguards are more likely to show up.
>>123812664
> Any unit set to guard adds 0 to the roll
Sorry, I meant any unit can get set to guard commander and up to 5 have a chance of showing up, but most units add 0 to the roll.
>>123809928
Yellow, Beige, and White. White was theoretically my ally, but dominions.
Yellow and Beige have been coming at me for a while. White is just this turn.
Yellow and Beige have big piles of those cap only sacreds, in big lines. Yellow has a bless, n9, beige has big piles of crossbows also.
None of them seem to be using mages or anything else of worth.
Hello admin? Is there any possibility for getting a 24 hour extension on fashionably late? I'm hoping it's not too late to request this. There is a small possibility that I'll be able to get to it within the time frame, but at that point I will of been up for almost 21 hours. This day did not go at all as planned.
>>123812908
I can help within the next few turns then. I'll send you a message in game
>>123814059
Thanks. Any help at this point would be appreciated.
>average /domg/-thug
>>123817576
>Tartarian chains
>Trample
Why even bother
>>123818307
Same size monsters. Anything that resists trampling would get rekt by chains.
So, anything of use apart of some resources in the planes/hell? Is there a reason to explore them to get some juicy goodies or its only a waste of resources?
>>123818676
Except it also makes him worthless against just about any thug that isn't size fucking 6. He's going to try to trample golems and not do any damage to them. Even against smaller units, given that you're putting chains on him, you want him to be hitting people with them. The wings make him waste his time stomping around instead of enslaving two units per round.
>>123796121
I think that will work. The Minoans are heretics anyway. Look what was found in one of their palaces
It's time, /domg/
>>123822010
That's fucking disgusting, dude.
>>123822010
tengu summons pls go only manly Aka-oni Samurai allowed
>>123822010
I get that this is 4chan, but can we not have mostly naked creepy whatever the fuck that is in this thread about wholesome pixellated giant penises, thanks.
>>123822740
Instead, let's discuss Swarm.
Swarm seems like a cool spell, but i've yet to be impressed by it. Have you used it for anything good? It buys a little time sometimes, but otherwise seems like a waste of a gem.
>>123823280
It's good on dryad / naga assassins. It works like a skelly-spam spell, albeit at a gem cost. As is the case with most duels, the winner is usually the one that brings more friends, and a swarm of insects will kill most mages.
>>123823280
It's pretty useful for a path 1 spell even if it does need a gem to use. What can be fun at times is overwhelming armies with bugs whilst battlefield wide effects are going on in the background killing everything else.
Vanheim, I think we need to talk, as I seem to have acquired one of your cap cricle.
>>123819018
>Even against smaller units, given that you're putting chains on him, you want him to be hitting people with them. The wings make him waste his time stomping around instead of enslaving two units per round.
Chains are MR-negates, so you'd fail to enslave units at least half the time anyway.
More importantly, 37 damage has a very good chance of killing most troops. If it does kill them, you obviously can't enslave them.
>>123824452
This map doesn't seem very well designed with the clustered terrain. Can I have my cap circle province though?
>>123824534
You're right that the chains are more likely to kill than enslave, but he's also right that you don't want wings and chains on the same unit. If you're going to use him to trample chaff, you may as well give him a second shield.
>>123824780
It isn't, it's a terrible map.
Of course, I'd like to have the forest bit to the west of it, and I'm further north. Ulm is on the island to your west, BTW.
>>123824918
Sounds good, I'll take it next turn then.
>>123824715
>>123824780
samefag? or mistakenly typed the wrong thing?
>>123825006
Sure, I've left it with 0 PD.
>>123825084
he obviously said one thing and then deleted it to elaborate
>>123825187
except the name was jotunheim in the deleted one and vanheim in the second one.
>>123825268
shit you're right
idk, maybe he's conspiring with himself
>>123825268
It was me, I just copied his name and forgot to change it.
>>123825268
>>123825416
I think Van just fucked up.
>>123825425
>>123825490
just being paranoid, it's the only way to play dominions.
>>123824856
It's not something you'd want to use often, but if you're dealing with size 6 SCs defended by chaff I could see it working well. Trample is also surprisingly nasty against smaller thugs, doing 20AP damage if they fail to dodge and doing 1 damage even if they do dodge.
The real issue here is that Pedoseion is a bad chassis for trampling things.
>>123825965
Why is he a bad chassis for trampling things? As opposed to hitting them, I mean - obviously if you have use for a tough earth/blood caster you should have him that role rather than meleeing.
Also keep in mind that Pedobearseion is a pretty easy SC to get for blood/earth nations, much easier than the ele royalty, or the demon lords. If all you got is a pedo, you might want to thug him, as you might lack anti RoS options otherwise.
>>123825965
That is an incredibly specific situation, but yeah I guess it'd work for that. If you have a trampler set to attack large monsters, will it wade through the smaller units, or chase after them to try to crush them once they're in melee?
>>123825416
Are you saying you don't
>>123826438
not publicly, most of the time
>>123826546
and you expect to succeed at dominions
>>123826304
>Why is he a bad chassis for trampling things? As opposed to hitting them, I mean
Trample is a bit riskier than just attacking since it's somewhat vulnerable to units with ethereal and/or high defense. If your enemy deploys them they can take a very long time to kill.
When you can trample 10+ squares per round there's a big difference in how fast chaff gets cleared and it might be worth the risk, but I think Pedoseion would clear chaff nearly as fast with Jade Armor (quickness) instead of trample.
If you're not improving your chaff clearing speed much I wouldn't bother with trample.
>>123826354
>If you have a trampler set to attack large monsters, will it wade through the smaller units, or chase after them to try to crush them once they're in melee?
No idea, never had cause to test it.
>>123828665
Pretty sure trample is capped at three squares/turn (Absent quickness)
Which heroic ability is the best?
>>123830490
Obesity
>>123830490
third eye or hp/fatness
General was on page 10 anyways
Talk about your games nerds
>no turns
>>123836602
I hope she causes unrest in whatever province she's in
>>123836602
What a shitty crow
We're in the final stages. Abysia is almost gone, Theredos has most of the sea and is pretty big, but they've been kept off of land. Caelum has done well to help fight Vanheim and Theredos while taking out Arco, but this has left bats to completely wipe the floor with the other players. Vanheim fucked his shit up trying to take Abysia's capital, he says he's got maxed out construction and some pumped up dwarves but its probably too late.
>>123838407
I told people it's going to be all about bats 10 turns into the game.
You didn't listen as usual.
in all my games I have huge amounts of military force but it's doing nothing for me and instead weird edge uses of spells are the sole thing keeping me afloat
>>123841445
quit using blob warfare.
Wut.
>>123841970
It's an event chain.You need either an astral mage with S4+ or a mage of each element with at least level 2, otherwise you get attacked once each season by a bunch of mages and elemental creatures. If you use one mage of each element instead of the astral mage, you are 'deemed worthy' and get a high tier mage of each element to join you
>>123841970
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/?page=event&panes=event+2880@199@82&showkeys=1&spelltype=3&eventq=magical%20runes
>>123842297
Damn, I have every element except fire and no astral apart from S1 indies.
>>123842628
Enjoy your impending pyromancer invasion.
>>123842361
I love how astral mages don't give a fuck. "Oh these wards? Psh."
>>123842723
I guess I'll just have to Rain on their parade.
>>123842723
>>123842898
You get invaded by all of them actually. It's either all the wards or all the attacks
>>123837138
>tfw noob at the game and not involved in MP so I just lurk the thread
>>123794829
>No, never.
Well, it's kind of unwarranted when I told you that you can have a provinces leading to one of the two thrones.
I want the one in the sea of lava because it's such a neat location to have, it's not even a good throne. (not to mention I can't cap it, really) I'm setting up shop in 77 and under.
>>123844236
>taking underground
>taking all southern sea access
>>123847846
>>taking underground
All the cool kids do it.
>>taking all southern sea access
I'm not though.
>>123848012
Just because the coolest kid has the most underground doesn't mean that taking underground makes you cool.
>>123784284
>>123798812
As many as you can spare, my god will be the caster and she's very elusive and hard to kill.
The more you contribute the harder it will be to remove.
>>123850748
>Astral corruption
>Astral nexus
>Burden of time
I'm gonna pick second.
>>123850748
I hope you're intending something benign, I really do.
>>123804086
>tfw getting btfo as ma sceleria by ma atlantis b/c of his huge communion batteries and undead mastery
>>123851994
If you're managing as Sceleria to have less communion power and research than Atlantis you have problems.
>>123808580
>fire men
>live inside a magma spewing volcano
>worship fire and shit
>better at blood than fire because fire is a shitty path outside of a few specific niches
>>123852065
He should definitely have bigger and better communions, but updated Atlantis actually has solid research if it can build and keep coastal forts. It also has massable W2S1 mages, though they're definitely more expensive than thaumaturgs.
>>123852154
True, I didn't mean Atlantis had bad research, just that Sceleria should have better due to only ever paying money for thaums and indie priests.
Tangentially, the UW patch has seemed to help a fair bit with water nations getting onto land and being relevant there, which is always their stumbling block.
>>123852327
I agree with your tangent. The coastal stuff does exactly what it's supposed to - it both rewards underwater nations for getting on land and makes them better at fighting once they're there. MA Pelagia is actually strong as fuck now, though that's more about having recruitable RoS casters in the era of communions and skeleton hordes than the fact that they can now recruit heavy infantry on land.
>>123852327
>just that Sceleria should have better due to only ever paying money for thaums and indie priests.
Having played as Sceleria, I went along with the indie priests thing and was disappointed. I get why it's good (you get almost 30 longdead / turn from the cost of one fort + lab) but I never felt like I was lacking chaff, and generally wanted more thaumaturgs instead.
>>123852537
I'm ure that was the intentionI have no clue how much is genius and how much is Illwinter throwing stuff to a wall and seeing what sticks
>>123852726
Build thaums as a priority, just get a reasonable stack of priests to make sure you never need the thaums for making chaff.
>>123817576
Man it sucks that I lost him because of hp routs and some dumb shit. Why the fuck he couldn't retreat if he could fly and there was a nearby land in my control I don't know. Still, it''s not like I give a fuck.
I was just using random artifacts
>>123851985
>something benign
His dominion is Turmoil 3, Sloth 3, Death 3 and his goddess is most likely a Drakina with Death magic out of the ass (if you look at the titles).
He's droping BoT or darkness.
>>123853496
Well, fuck, I really hope it bounces.
>>123852969
Yeah, but I feel like while it's good to build a temple first and recruit indy priests while waiting for your fort to build, that just having naked temples spitting out priests is a waste of money that could be spent on infrastructure to get more mages.
>>123853273
Why would pedoseion die retreating if he could fly an he was sieging this castle?
>>123853845
>all those unused gems
Trash player.
>>123853845
Only amphibious units retreat across rivers. I know it's stupid, but it's how it works. Flying units still die.
>>123853881
I know, what should i do with them?
>>123853845
Is that single player, or are your opponents actual vegetables?
>>123854047
You can do everything. You can get all the boosters into all the elemental royalty and summon up elemental armies. If they're taken, you can get Telkhines for SCs or leading poison resistant armies.
Also, where are your blood slaves? Or are you actually just spending them?
>>123854047
Summon things. Summon million of things.
Even if you use trash or overpriced summons that's enough goddamn gems to field an army of summer lions/trolls backed by every single buff possible and fully geared scs or some shit.
LIke, i don't know what your research is, what your mages are (but berry gets lots of good mages), but you can field so much extra firepower through summoning.
Drop some globals as well, if only to deny them to your opponents.
>>123854063
>are your opponents actual vegetables
His opponents are /domg/ players
>>123854063
It's MP.
>>123854161
I have all the boosters, all the elemental royalty are already summoned. I don't have a great water income.
This turn i could do something autistic like spending every single slave and it makes me happy.
I have alot of fire and earth but i don't know what to do with it.
>>123854328
The twist isi already have a trilion things,i was trying dumb shit like that stupidly equipped pedoseion for fun.
>>123854047
Assuming all the elemental royalty is taken (judging from the fire king in the picture), first get all of the globals you want. If nothing else, get the gem generating globals. You're Berytos, so you should be able to cast basically any of them. Once you're done with that -
Spend all your fire gems on boosters, flame spirits, fire snakes if you want burning chaff, and Flames from the Sky. You can also summon flame jellies once you get an underwater lab. They're actually good blockers.
Spend all your air gems on boosters, eagles if you need to bust forts, winged shoes for getting commanders around, storm staves for your stormcaller legions, cloud trapeze casts, call of the winds for patrolling your provinces, and pills of water breathing
Spend all your water gems on boosters and stuff to take over the ocean since you're apparently fighting an aquatic nation.
Spend all your earth gems on boosters, iron dragons, hidden in sand/underneath, troll kings, and a bunch of different magic items that you probably already have.
Spend all your nature gems on outfitting the horde of thugs that you should have from your demon summons
Hey domg please help a noob.
If all the global slots are filled, and i try recasting one of the globals already on, what happens? It tests the new cast against the old cast? It test the new cast again one of the 5 globals?
It just wastes gems and i am a retard?
>>123854660
Tests vs the same one, but it's in the manual so....
>>123854660
It casts against the existing version of the same global. If you cast a different global, it checks against one of the existing ones at random. This is in the manual and you are a retard, but you already knew that.
>>123854660
It tests against the existing cast.
If it doesn't already exist, it tests against a random one.
>>123854576
There's never enough things. YOu need more things
Your informants claim a local warlock is preparing a major summoning. You may send a blood mage to assist him, some priests to incite the mob against him or armed men to flush him out.
How much blood does it need for the ritual to be successful? Is a mage with B2 enough?
>>123857182
B2 is enough, but you're still more likely to summon hostile demons than you are to bind one. You do have a chance of binding Magoth, though, which is cool. If you can spam Hellbind Heart, you also might get a chance to charm Belial or Furcas.
>>123857545
what if it's in an AI game with newbie friends of mine and all of the arch devils have been summoned by me already? should i not bother about the event?
>>123858631
If you do nothing, you get attacked by demons. The event chain is mostly bad. Preaching gives a small chance of an angel and a decent chance of a mob, patrolling lets you fight fewer demons, and the blood magic still has a chance to let you get a free circle master and some fiends.
That said, playing against AIs is trivial to begin with, so what you do here matters very little.
>>123858753
thanks anon. It was mostly a game to try a blood nation while helping my friends learning how to play, and this event made me curious. I'm new to these chain events, but they seem fun usually.but they tend to be bad events or "do something to avoid a bad event"
Ayy u wan pray game of CoE4 MP?
joined too many games
fuckfuckfuckfuck
>>123861240
How many games are you in?
Doms is a shit game and I dunno why I sit in this thread when I don't even play it.
>>123864123
You enjoy all the hot dominoes sloots that hang out with us MLG Dom players.
>>123864123
You love the hot memes. You know you do.
>>123864123
I know this might look like an innocent post as >>123864280 and >>123865790 seem to believe, but I would just like to remind you all that Illfraud shills are a very real thing in all social media and especially /domg/, hell, /domg/ was started by shills but thankfully the free people took it away from them even though the battle goes on (ever wonder why sometimes the links to the pirated versions are removed for a long time? that's right, shills removing it protecting illfraud)
You might be wondering how in the hell is this post a shill, he's not even trying to sell the game he's actually shitting on it? Illfraud are a smart bunch of kikes and know not only how to sell shitty games, but also how to market shitty games. Normally, products will be marketed by their good qualities, but this isn't the case when your product is 100% shit, what good things can you say about dominions? nothing, that's what, and the only people attracted to 100% shit is the kind of people that like 100% shit.
This key axiom is as subtle as paradoxical it is, exactly by its nature is it hidden from people and hard to realize and understand, which is one of the strengths of this technique. Thanks to this, the poor sods who actually buy into all this never think they're actually being tricked or anything like that, after all, why would someone try to sell shit? On one hand I can't blame them, this is a completely rational thought process that makes sense 99% of the time, but Illfraud is the 1%, Illfraud is the complete opposite irrational snake, tricking people because 'no one would do that, right?'
Needless to say, the quoted post is a classic textbook example of Illfraud shill, and as such you should do what's appropiate. I would also like to add, as a side note, that it's been now 2 weeks since the release of Conquest of Elysium 4, and there's already 10 (ten) DLC, including such bullshit as the Hoburg Enhancer class, Hoburg Troll King class, HD graphics pack,etc. Disgusting
>>123808580
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Assuming you're complaining about the lore though, Abysia actually wrecks Hinnom and its derivatives across multiple eras in canon.
>>123866849
Oy vey, why haven't you bought your monthly Dominions subscription yet?
Remember, subscribers automatically get Awe on all their sacreds!
Where do I download maps.
>>123867285
You buy them from Shillwinter at only $1.99 a piece, or buy a special 5-pack for the amazingly low price of $19.99!
>>123867354
ebin
Can someone with lots of custom maps zippity zip their maps folder and upload it to mega or something?
>>123867603
https://mega.nz/#!9pEFxRpD!DxWiWdtkJDi5shxts1kx0Tu_xRpwFKDCR4_23bNOwq4
I don't have that many, but those maps I have are frequently used in MP games.
Perhaps because most /domg/ players have shit taste.
>>123867603
Here's a map to hurt your head.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s2g9ee9d7tds4c0/The_Empire_of_Sarthon.zip?dl=0
>>123868736
Clustered terrain is a really bad idea.
>>123868736
>those transparent, overlapping mountains
I understand using a brush to paint terrain quickly, but damn that looks bad.
>>123868849
I know friend, I know....
ded
>>123871316
ERRRRMOOOOOOOOORRRRRR
Its 25% off right now are there good chances itll drop lower during the big Christmas sale?
>>123871576
I don't think so. It was never more than 25% off on Steam sales for as long as I remember those threads. But maybe the base price went lower with time, though I doubt that.
So, let's say that I HYPOTHETICALLY transformed my pretender into a feebleminded foulspawn. HYPOTHETICALLY, if I kill it and call it back, would it retain its original form, or am I stuck with this shit until Gift of Health?
I fixed my chaff.
>>123871576
>>123871963
https://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/price?plain=dominionsivthronesofascension
>>123871576
>>123871963
There's a decent chance it'll go 50% at Christmas.
>>123872096
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>>123872049
Foulspawn aren't undead, so other things that remove afflictions will work too
>>123867978
>>123868736
Cheers.
>>123844235
join one, that's the best way to learn
>>123872049
>>123872049
>>123872049
I'm not sure, but it would keep its feeblemind affliction at least.
>>123872049
This is probably a dumb question but I've been playing a lot of CoE 4 and I've been lurking this general for a while and I've been thinking about getting into Dominions 4.
I'm a turn-based-strategy buff, but I consistently enjoy tactical TBS games, like X-COM or Jagged Alliance, and I often find myself overwhelmed playing things like Civ or 4X games. I usually feel like there's a 'correct' or 'optimal' way to play rather than being free to just screw around, and it seems like something I can never figure out.
Is Dominions 4 like this? Even if it is, is it simple enough to just bumble around in for a while and come to grips with, or do I need to sit down and read step-by-step guides on how to do things? I won't ask if it's worth buying because I'm sure all of you will say yes and I'm very prepared to buy it, I'm just really on the fence.
>>123873576
>Is Dominions 4 like this?
Some people in this general will have you believe that it is, but really, everything is situational. Sure you should have an overall idea of how a faction plays before playing it, but after that it's pretty much about using what your current situation gives you.
>>123873576
There is no optimal way to play dominions. You can optimize your pretender and expansion, but after that it's all downhill. You will make mistakes, your opponents will too, how you make those mistakes into victories is the important part.
>>123873576
Well, there are some things that are generally considered to be "wrong" in Dominions, but very few that are unambiguosly "right," simply because there are so many options and a significant portion of them is at least viable in the right situation, against the right opponents. It's no coincidence that "it depends" is so often given as advice here that it's become a meme. Experimentation is a big part of gitting gud, even for experienced players, so using a gimmicky or outright bad strategy sometimes doesn't need to be a bad thing as long as it's a lesson learned. Also, since diplomacy and subterfuge plays a significant role (or can do so at any rate), even decidedly subpar strategies can sometimes win you the game with a bit of diplomancy and luck.
And even if there was an objectively "right" way to play Dominions, most of /domg/ is bad enough that they'll never discover it.
>>123873576
Watch a let's play or read an aar to see if Dom4 is a game for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgqJJKSd8i4&index=1&list=PLrKYJEsJepoOwK8i6hFVKeJWmt4WZe67u
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/bigblogclub-8-player-lp
>>123873576
every nation has 1 2 or 3 strategies which are better and you will be expected ( if you want to challenge the biggest player on the map at least) to use in the early/mid game.afterall you can only recruit a dozen of fixed national unit with gold and with small magical research budgets there won't be more than 3-4 choices for " what's the first spell my nation should go for".
after that your magical capabilities slowly open up and all nation will have access to a big number of general strategies that mostly depend on the situation.
Even if there are only 2 good summonable air magic units, you can deploy and move them around the map in a handful of ways; choosing where and when to attack and what kind of war you will be fighting is more important than " what are the different choices for units in my army" and might be a good way to justify summoning or crafting "alternative" stuff.
>>123798236
why? I think they're awesome.
>>123875893
I personally don't mind either way, but due to the nature of how we've got the player base I feel I should pass on concerns from those who aren't one here.
>>123876695
ahh. Where are you from, traveller?
>tfw crown of the ivyking is the only thing left worth making that I have the paths for.
At least I got both Earth kings and a water queen. (bats has a different water queen and I don't want to waste my gems checking for the last)
>>123876805
I'm not a traveler, I'm the guy who posted the sign up thread on invasionfree, but I know what you meant.
>>123877118
Well, getting lots of Vine Ogres for cheap isn't terrible. They've got pretty shitty stats, but they make decent blockers/evo catchers.
>>123877395
I even have an animist with native Ivylord from an event to throw it on.
>>123877118
I have the amphibious water queen.
Also have a few nice comfy artifacts.
>>123877382
I can always move them to the game page
>>123877118
A friendly reminder to stockpile your S gems because >>123850748 R'lyeh is going to cast utterdark or burden of time.
>>123875772
this is bad advice.
>>123878191
I was stockpiling anyways, since I can summon my summons when/where I need them that way. but I don't have high S anyways.
>>123873576
Don't forget to download battle simulators although there's a stigma against obsessively testing
>>123878593
its not a stigma, its just one guy who complains loudly.
>>123878684
I think testing too much eliminates some of the fun surprise factor there is in battles, but that's just me. I get exhausted just scripting large armies
>>123878593
>Don't forget to download battle simulators although I'm a fucking casual, so I wouldn't like it if you defeat me while testing stuff
Fixed that for you.
>>123878467
High S isn't necessary anyway, just resources.
All depends on how much people have and are willing to invest.
>>123878891
You can test all you want as EA R'lyeh and I won't stop you. Hell, you'd probably have more fun testing battles with them than actually playing them.
>>123878840
Eh, the best surprises come from good (or sometimes just unorthodox) scripting and/or sneak attacks. You can't really test against those.
If you're just mashing armies together, testing gives you a definite edge, but in that case I think it's a justified edge because our opponent is obviously a shitter anyway (or AI, which is the same thing).
I don't test because it's boring.
>>123879327
There's too many variables to consider imho to think recreating battles is always accurate. Will the enemy use his earth mages to cast bladewind or iron warriors? Is his thug immediately going to attack or wait 5 turns in the corner? What buffs is he going to cast? Etc.
Trying to figure out a good pretender for MA Sceleria. So far I have it narrowed down to these two.
Imprisoned Titan of the sea
Dom7
W9E4
O3Cold3G3Mag1
vs
Imprisoned DemiLich
Dom7
W9E4D5F1
O3S3Cold3G3Mag1
The Magic 1 doesnt decrease MR, but does help out ever so slightly with communions, as well as the fact that my basic labrat is not a research powerhouse. My biggest concern is if production scales are worth dumping big time or not, since I can expand just fine without resources, and any units I use are mages, vestals or longdead. However, I do need all the money i can get, and even prod 0 can be helpful.
>>123879701
That's pretty much what I said.
In straight-up army vs army situations it's useful, but you can't really test against an opponent who uses proper scripting.
The only time I rely heavily on testing is during expansion, when I want to know if my expansion party can take a certain province without too many losses. Sometimes encounters that look 50-50 statwise can turn out pretty one-sided (in a good way or a bad way), and testing helps with that.
>>123878067
Thanks dude.
>When you bring put the ENTIRE enemy army to sleep
>>123879802
Sloth is perfectly fine to dump (I personally don't go lower than 2 just to ensure that you can recruit some indy archers or crossbows if you can fort a province that has them), but the titan can move around and do stuff in the late game, which is definitely a useful thing to have. If you go for the titan chassis, I'd go Sloth 2/Cold 1 for slightly better income. If lowering your dom to 6 or even 5 would get you another scale, I'd go for that as well since you're going to be building a lot of temples regardless.
Guys, does anybody know what happens if you are fighting against mindless and undead armies with living normal leaders and you start casting shadow bolt or frighten?
Those spells will avoid targeting the undead or they willl target the undead uselessly?
Wow it's just like being on /d/
>>123881220
If there are no valid targets, they won't cast the spell.
>>123879936
You can if they don't change their scripts between battles. A good player expecting his opponent to field a counter will do so (and may even bring along more mages), but most people won't.
>>123881321
Of course you're from /d/ you perverted furry fuck.
>>123878593
>battle simulators
Just use the map editor. It's extremely quick to set up armies with it.
>>123881402
But if the leader are target able they will target only them right?
>>123881641
It doesn't work very well from my experience.
>>123881803
Yes, but those spells have limited range and leaders tend to be in the back. Most evocation spells, like Shadow Bolt are going to miss because accuracy scales off of distance. If you do have a long range 100 precision spell like Soul Slay or Mind Burn, however, those will snipe the commanders.
Smh desu senpai
Also TC you better stop talkin' shit 'bout me or else you gon' git yo shit slapped son.
>>123872049
Hi pan, is it you? :)
Marverni, are you here?
>>123885009
Hello
No
>>123885391
I haven't seen the turn yet, what is it?
>>123884228
>Not enslaving the assassin
She'd have drowned anyways, but still.
>>123857182
>>123857545
>tfw a previous advice also works for me
This has just happened to me too.
The event happened last turn so I moved a blood mage there, but when this turn started, demons attacked. They didn't even wait for me to join to the rituals ;_;
So:
>this cutie gets into the bar and slaps your butt
How do I seduce this cutie without getting destroyed by him? I can take there 20 hellbind heart casters or so, but I'm not even sure if that would do something, since I can't move 20 mages for nothing. If i get it it's fucking awesome, but I don't know if it's worth moving all of my troops there.
I want to kill the other people there so i can spam hellbind heart, and my regular bats are probably not going to harm him, right?
So just attack + flee some times until my regular bats kill the adds and spam hellbind with a barrier of xibalban warriors to protect my mages from belial?
Please send help ;_;
Also: why does he have a face in the groin?
>>123887125
Here it is a closer look of him. I'm hoping invulnerability avoids it from getting killed by regular xibalban warriors with shitty Strength.
>>123887356
you can enslave and GoR him too if you have S casters.
anything that causes fatigue without doing damage (curse of stones stellar cascades ghost grip sleep etc) will help immensely
>>123887125
Lance crits can kill him, but he'll rout your bat warriors very quickly due their shitty morale. Note that unless you also have a significant amount of HP set to guard, this will cause an HP rout and make your casters run away unless you bring a huge number (which also also, incidentally, are more likely to likely to kill him).
Starting out with hellbind heart spam is probably your best bet if you can bring 20 casters, since they'll just bind the serpent fiends as well. Hellbind heart x whatever and retreat should do the trick, assuming they all fly.
