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Katawa Shoujo General #2846

Motherfucking Misha Edition#2

Last thread: >>123201225

Official website (Katawa Shoujo is free!): http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/
#KSGGames (Risk/Chess IRC Chat): http://pastebin.com/eaqK2kPq
Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Wp8y08x2
Writebin: http://pastebin.com/8NpPmBHp
KSG FAQ: http://pastebin.com/6Z28iW1x
Shimmie: http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/
Katawa Crash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0inlk1zmd1drzl/katawa_crash_beta_8-36.exe and http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3071
Katawa Shoujo Lite: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/608881
Desktop Katawas: http://www.mediafire.com/?ogvo1fh7d5x36j9
KS Interactive Shrink: http://www.writing.com/main/interact/item_id/1858014-Katawa-Shoujo-shrink
Passwords for Shrink: http://bugmenot.com/view/writing.com
KSG Map: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=776666
KS Alpha: http://pastebin.com/weL41ehu
Flockdraw: http://skycow.us/whiteboard
3D-Printable Katawa Figurines: http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10195.swf
/ksg/ exclusive 3DS themes: https://mega.nz/#!3hkznbaR!Zu_0gWDvitQspHUaEhtUeLG7iJhK4Q_79MpXaASkrQo
KSG IRC room: #/ksg/
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alright
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>>123377159
Alright, now we're just fucking around, but you know what, I'm on board because 2013's stream of pure autism will be great.
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The other thread was better, it's a shame it was deleted, but we'll be back on track when the next thread is made. Let's just stay on the shitposter thread by now.

Don't blame the mods for their ignorance, they just delete the one created later. They should've noticed the trip on the OP and assumed the shitpost, though.
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>>123377919
Exactly.

*boop*
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IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER
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And there we go again. The mods are great today eh.
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THANK YOU MODS
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>>123377159
Nth for a happy Hana!
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Is this our place, then?


If so, consider that Hanako's burns, while severe, are not recent wounds, but instead scars which are close to the color pink, and she does not have issues wearing pink, in fact she does it twice.

Hence, I think that the fire trauma would not relate to the color of her clothes, and she should be fine wearing black.
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>>123381701

Oh, I'm glad to see you're still here anon.

And yes, when you put it that way, I guess I do see what you mean.

But to be honest, imagining Hanako wearing pink is just as garish in my mind as Hanako wearing dark black.
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I realize I don't have much katawas giving thumbs up or pointing like this one. Do any of you have some? Or want to draw it for me?I really want a Rin giving a foot thumbs up for some reason, but it needs to be REALLY cute.
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Now that 2013 is thoroughly BTFO'd out who will be the next top trip of the KSG?
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I love you all.

All waifus are best waifus

Please get along.

I hate it when we fight.

I wish it was still 2011...
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>>123381818
Well it's on her casual shirt and on her night gown.

I really want to hug her while she is in her night gown, it must be so soft.
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for Miki.
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>>123382025
In my head the world stopped at 2010 and we are still there. It just doesn't make sense to go past 2010. All was well in the world that year, never again though. Never again.
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Reminder to be friendly and ignore shitposting.
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>>123382025
I love you too, but sometimes we've gotta pull some dumb shit to get things back to the way they should be.

And mods, what're you guys doing over there?
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>>123382181

I don't really like 2010, but purely for personal reasons.

It was a bad year in my family.

2011 was much better.
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Thank you again Janny <3
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Janitor, I take back the insults I said earlier, you have redeemed yourself. I'm being honest here, thank you very much for cleaning this place up.

You are my favorite now.
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>>123377365
neat!
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>>123381701
and besides, Hanako looks pretty sexy in black .
Although we'll never get this image with the scars like how it is in the artbook, and that's a shame since it's the only good image in the artbook toplel
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>>123382554

I remember some years ago there was some namefag who's thing was adding scars to pics of purple-hair anime chicks.

He was pretty good at it too.
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>>123382391
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What's up, cripplers?
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>>123382854
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>>123382854

I'll never understand what they were thinking when they gave her this shirt.

>>123382934

Enjoying the calm.

I will never EVER again complain about the thread being slow.

I now much prefer a slow thread to the alternative that I saw this evening...
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>>123382934
Neel deleting Fumin's post again.
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>>123382494
what's neat about it?
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>>123383095
amen.
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>>123381701
Old burns fade in pinkness to discolored tan and purple-ish. The way they were portrayed in KS was not that inaccurate, though the cracked formation they're drawn in would be unlikely. (More of a distorted, melted mass than any sort of weave)
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>>123383095
Slow and chilled is always good! Fits winter. Any anons having snow already?
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>>123383164
Isn't it new? If not, then i've just never seen it.
It looks good and i appreciate any Rin pic i haven't seen.
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>>123383348
snow with hanako
hanasnow
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Alright, so before I leave for tonight (for real) I'm going to leave you all with a question that I'll check back on when I wake up.

I'm currently in the middle of working on three different KS related fics and I want to know which one you guys would like me to finish first:

>Hanako Snow-covered Drama
>Emi Lemon-flavored Smut
>Emi Phantom-pain Drama

Good night guys!
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>>123383510
Emi Slmut and Hana Drama.
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>>123383510
hanasnow
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>>123383418
>It looks good
>good
2013 drew it.
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i knew there was a more recent image of hanasnow
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>>123383510
Emi drama>smut=hanadrama
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Suck it up Fumin, you fucking faggot.
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>tfw ksg ignores you

>>123381821
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Hey guts, been a while. How goes the things?
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>>123386831
It's an obscure request m8
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>>123386831
I'm sorry friend, I can't help you. I'm on my phone. And at work.
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>>123381821
I will not tolerate your micro aggressions towards katawas without thumbs.
>miki frowns in your direction
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>>123387942
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>>123387942
I wonder if any of the katawas would be SJWs?
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>>123388807
They're all too perfect for that, Anon.
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>>123388807
I thought Suzu canonically was.
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>>123389191
>Suzu
>canon
huh?
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>>123389191
Why cannonically though?
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>>123389542
>>123389518
I thought this was generally accepted.
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>>123389191
>implying she doesn't whisper death to kikes in her sleep
Don't talk shit about my pure pol waifu anon.
I'll kill you.
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>>123389998
I'll still think of her as a SJW. Deal with it, nerd.
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>>123389542
something to do with Raide, I think.
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>>123389191
Raide is so people assumed his creation would be as well. As far as I know, she hasn't been confirmed either way.
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>>123391418
What is this screenshot
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>>123391418
I don't know really anything about any of the staff and I kinda just feel like Scissorlip's version of her is the best.
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>>123392185
go away scissorlips
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>>123392114
I just save things, I don't question them.
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>>123392284
What other stories are there for her? I don't really know.
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>>123393129
This thing by.. Suriko I think?
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>>123392185
I agree.
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>>123393456
That story really didn't deserve artwork by weee.
It was alright but that's about it.
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>>123393456
If anything would be canon it would be the Suzu route by Scissorlips, but no, Summer's Clover isnt canon either.
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>>123393928
>it's been 3 years and weee has still not drawn consensual hanako secks
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>>123394067
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>>123393970
They were asking for other stories. Not canon.. unless I missed something.

They could read BPH's bit.
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>>123394067
actually, closer to 4 years now
the hanako writer bailed out, the new hanako writer hates her, and the hanako artist doesn't give a shit, this is stupid
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weee is cute
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>>123394323
Don't know about that but her art is pretty neat anyway!
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>/ksg/ soon to reach 3k
What a time to be alive
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>>123394678
Don't hold your breath.
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>>123394565
I mean her personality and art, idk what she looks like
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>>123394678
That's why Im not leaving for awhile. Can't miss it.

>>123394928
Someone better hold their breath
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>>123395203
Each thread lasts like 3 days, so you'll be hard pressed to miss it
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>>123393970
Neither are canon, no, but I'd definitely say a non-canonical piece by an official writer is higher up on the scale than a critically acclaimed piece by a fan
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>>123395087
I don't know how her personality is like too though...
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>>123395318
Look, I fucked up in life enough to call myself autist. I am not having a fuckup take 3k away from me
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Lilly
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>>123396191
Best girl
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>>123396191
>>123396352
Every girl is best girl
although Lilly and Hanako are bestest.
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>>123396191
I want to keep her safe!
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>>123396587
I want to crack her safe if you know what I mean
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>>123396570
>tfw even lilly's route is a better hanaroute than hanako's
hana is bestest girl tho
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>>123396570
>Every girl is best girl
Don't give me that crap

what's the fun of general threads if there's not shitposting?
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>>123397032
>if there's not shitposting?
I don't think you have to worry about that
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Shizune is best girl.
You're all just too stupid to realise.
It's okay, shizune forgives you. She just want's you to be the best you that you can
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>>123396884
I know it sucks. I read Sisterhood, it filled the hole somewhat.
>>123397032
>Implying I'm not shitposting when I say thar
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>>123397120
All it takes is one pacifist to ruin everything. Stay vigilant, friend

>>123397163
dis guy gets it
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Hello, /ksg/. When is the last time you felt truly happy? You're not going to tell me loving a fictional entity which isn't even capable of returning feelings of affection has brought you any sort of happiness in your existence, are you?
We both know you don't love your 'waifu' as much as you just love yourself enough to deem yourself worthy of having a partner who cares about you deeply, something which you can't just do for yourself anymore, or for any person, for that matter.
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>>123398790
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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>>123392382
The fuck is this, I want it.
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>>123398790
Last time I felt truely happy was the weekend before last.

I bought an umbrella - the first umbrella I've ever properly owned for myself - and it started raining about five minutes after I did. Then I bought an accordion from an antiques shop for, like £85. I was on fucking cloud nine.
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>>123398790
Right before i read your post. Thanks doc
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>>123398790
I think in the start of the year. It was my first semester on college, my family was all right, I was meeting new people, I loved what I was learning and everything was okay. Some days I was really happy.

Then almost all the people I met got boring, my family started to go full retard, I don't feel motivation not even to leave my bed and right now I just want to die. These last two months are feeling like hell and I don't think it will stop soon. The thing is that I don't have anything to look forward to. Fuck this gay earth.
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>>123398790
Depends on what do You mean by "truly happy"
The most happiness i got in recent years were a few moments that i'm glad i could experience, ex: going on concerts, reading good VNs, watching 10/10 aneemays.
TRUE true happiness is not for me.
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>>123398790
A few days ago I was in the computer lab with headphones on doing some work. My group and I had all met up and split the work.

The lab monitor was going around the groups seeing how everyone was doing, got to mine and spoke to the group.

Then I got my attention because I hadn't noticed and looked at my work.

He described me as "that guy you tell what to do and then he disappears for a while and brings it back done"

It made me really happy for some reason.
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Post delicious Indian girl!
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>>123400925
>Classifying being indian as a disability
Woah, rude.
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>>123401070
poo in loo is a legitimate disorder anon
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>>123401070
Curry > Bacon
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Mate seriously tho I fucking love me some Korma
get some raisins in that motherfucker, bit of naan? i'll eat that shit all day long
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He-
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-/k-
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>>123404525

Verynice.gif
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>>123404371
He-
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>>123404525
that's nipples and a fanny flap away from being lewd
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>>123404371
Gu-
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>>123405814
>dat derp face

0/10
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Goodnight shitposters, may the best girl watch over you.
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>>123405814
Still not as lewd as this.
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>>123406175
Goodnight fagget, sleep tight.
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>>123406245
l-lewd
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>>123398790

I learned a long time ago that no one will ever care about me, don't worry anon, I have no delusions
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>>123398790
Fuck off
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>>123407097
Same here anon. It's actually a comforting feeling once you realize it.
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G'Night faggets! Love you all!
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https://www.thedodo.com/hanako-japan-elephant-61-years-1473985023.html

Poor Hanako
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ksg, do you ever feel
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>>123408948

up set?
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>>123408948

Sometimes

Not enough to be human
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>>123408878
Love you too anon, goodnight!

>>123408948
Not anymore
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>>123408948
that's like asking if we can breathe
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>>123408948
I feel a lot of things, because I'm not a fucking vegetable
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>>123408948
Rarely anymore.
>>123408878
Sleep well anon.
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>>123408948
Rarely, but when i do it almost kills me
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>>123410231
>tfw I will never piggyback Emi
>tfw I will never be able to get stuff off high shelves for her
>tfw I will never be able to constantly rib her about her height
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>>123411010
You could do that with any short 3dpd you know
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Who should I go with for my third playthrough, after Emi and Rin? I have everything prepared, tissues, a lot of alcohol and a day off work.
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>>123408948
Some days I feel like blowing my brains out and some days I don't
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>>123411010
I believe you will find your Emi someday, anon!
>>123411140
Give Lilly's route a run!
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>>123411140
Emi route is best route. I've played it about 15 times, so I know this to be true.
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>>123411140
But there's only Lilly's route left after those two, anon!
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>>123411125
I live in hope
>>123411225
To be honest I'd be happy to find any girl like any of the katawas IRL. Especially Lilly or Hanako
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>>123411225
>I believe you will find your Emi someday, anon!
I did have an Emi in my life but I fucked up and now I have nothing.
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>>123411140
I'd go with Lilly
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>>123411140
if that's your third, you should do lilly and make it your last
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>>123411396
If you look behind their disabilites and that's what you want in woman, sooner or later you will find someone. Just dont stop looking out for her.
I know this sounds stupid and Ive stopped doing that myself long ago, but I believe in you anon!
>>123411889
There's always playing Shizune's route for shit's and giggles.
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>>123411225
>>123411369
>>123411676
>>123411889
Alright. Hopefully you'll hear from me again, I only post a message or two on /ksg/ after I finish a route. I easily get really invested and emotional. I mean, if KS had 5 Rin-like routes, I'd probably blow my brains out before I would beat all of them.
Her route really hit close to home. Mine doesn't have a happy end though.
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>>123412709
When you realize the only good end is Kenji's route, it's already too late
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>>123411981
>If you look behind their disabilites and that's what you want in woman
Exactly, it's not at all about the disabilities but their personalities. And the fact they're qts
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Daily reminder Kekwa Shoujo faggots are subhuman
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>>123413951
Thanks doc
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>>123408948
The thing is, i truly feel only when consuming content that corresponds to me in right time. Any other time is only a mask i wear to match social expectations. Deciding to live a stoic live is something worth pursuing if you ask me.
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Why are we such a miserable bunch?
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>>123415397
How can one be miserable if they have a waifu?
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>>123415923
Because that waifu will never be real
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>>123415397
Because we haven't chosen to change ourselves enough yet.
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I'd stuff Hanako's turkey
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>>123416007
I read that as
>we haven't chosen to end ourselves yet
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>>123416226
Isn't that just another form of change?
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>>123416318
Although a rather conclusive one.
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>>123416202
I'd let Hanako stuff my turkey if you catch my drift.

And by that I mean I'd let her prepare the bird for our Thanksgiving family dinner while taking care of the side dishes.
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>>123415961
But the warmth that comes with just thinking about her is enough to overcome all misfortune in your life.
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>>123416809
I'd smother her potatoes with my gravy if you know what I mean
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>>123416942
I'd rather nut inside such a beautiful girl
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>>123416486
Still, someday the time will be right for that.
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I think I just won a bet desu
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>>123417484
Congrats anon!
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>Still talking about this VN.
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>>123421396
>Still talking about how we're still talking about this VN
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>>123421697
For the people anon, for the people.
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>>123421396
How ya doing skynet?
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>>123422051
Good my friend, got a bottle of Whiskey and not a care in the world.
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Can we all agree that lilly would be the best girl to introduce to your family during the turkey meal? Especially with a glass or two of wine
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>>123421991
Is that a draw from that faggot korean who is into this shit?
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>>123422934
Your guess is as good as mine.
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>>123422750
Sounds good, have fun with that!
I'll hit the hay, see later ksg!
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>>123422770
If Hanako could keep herself together she would be pretty good too
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>>123423104
Triggered
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i hate each and every one of you
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>>123425114
Y-you too
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>Started Shizune's route
>Enjoying it
>Remember it's Shizune's route and not Misha's
>Weep
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>>123424285
Knowing my family they wouldnt make it easy for her.
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>>123422770
The girl you love is the best girl to introduce to your family, and I love Lilly.
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Is Lilly a silly Billy?
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>>123430227
Someone call for some silly Lilly?
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>>123430227
I'd make Lilly go silly if you know what I mean
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ksg mansion when
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Goodnight nerds.
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>>123433231
goodnight nerd
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>>123433231
Sweet dreams, love you
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>>123383614
>>123383674
>>123384076

Goddamnit guys, thats a first vote for all three.

Guess I'll just start from the top and work down.
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>>123433231

I will kill you
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post the shit musics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9COhf3PJPI
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>>123437362
It's a really nice spring day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMRQdgrvFX8
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>>123437362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFdnkHGHqQs

Beautiful song tbqh family
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>>123437362
This song is the shit in a good sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PkV-A5WTPk
>>123437640
Same here, but I wish I was at home with the family pool. As it is I have to make do with cold beer and maybe a cold shower.
>>123437756
Nice mate, I am partial to classical stuff if the mood takes me. That's a nice and chill song.
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>>123437362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUo2oZsXbc
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>>123437869
Hey, never complain about about a nice cold beer anon.
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>>123438389
Who said I was complaining about the beer? I was complaining about the lack of a pool!
Although that does remind me that were I an Amerikek I wouldn't have been legally able to buy the beer I'm drinking.
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anyone buy anything cool in the Steam sale?
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>>123438543
My mistake then. Could always use a pool!
Take it you're under 21 then. Well, enjoy the freedom and liberation of our nations drinking laws!
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>>123438653
Just bought Tom Clancy's Endwar for 5 buckaroonis

How about you?
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>>123438696
>Take it you're under 21 then. Well, enjoy the freedom and liberation of our nations drinking laws!
I turned 20 11 days ago
I've now been able to drink for 2 years
>tfw I will never enjoy a cold beer while Lilly sips on a nice wine
>tfw I can never introduce her to the wonders of goon
.tfw I can never get wasted and enjoy drunk sex with her
>tfw I can never lord the fact I never get hangovers over her
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>>123439473
>.tfw I can never get wasted and enjoy drunk sex with her

>tfw forget my greentext arrow
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>>123439473
Well happy belated birthday!
And you dont have to introduce goon to her, no one needs to know the horrors of goon of fortune
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>>123440102
>Well happy belated birthday!
Thanks mate. /ksg/ was really nice to me on the day too. You guys are my favourite hugbox
>And you dont have to introduce goon to her, no one needs to know the horrors of goon of fortune
I wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same thing and it turns out there's a fucking wikipedia article on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goon_of_Fortune
And why do you imply goon of fortune is a bad idea?
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>>123440420
Goon of fortune never ends well. There's always that one girl that has to go puke in the garden, but like, doesn't make it in time and just bile and goon go on the pavement and her hair and its allll shambles.
Other than that it's a top laugh
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>>123441107
>tfw I will never hold Lilly's hair back as she vomits after overdoing it
>tfw I will never get to nurse her the morning after
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>>123441269
Goon hangover is worst hangover, even worse than tequila
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>>123441721
Well I don't seem to get hangovers. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe I don't drink enough.
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Here lies /ksg/, 154 threads too soon
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>>123444573
Hey, I'm not giving up on /ksg/ yet! We're still kicking!
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>>123444573
Nu-uh!
I could just give ksg a heart massage or something!
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>>123444573
Get it, cause we're dead
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>>123444878
Nah, this is no myocardial infarction.
/ksg/ is just dying in its sleep.
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Goodnight, KSG.
I love each and every one of you.
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>>123445360
I could smooch his face until it wake up?
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>>123445858
Goodnight anon, I love you too.
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>>123445858
Goodnight mate, sleep well.
>>123445915
That's not quite how CPR works
That reminds me, I need to do a first aid course at some point in the future
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>>123446136
i did a first aid course during high school. shit ended up helping me get a job.
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>>123446337
I need to do one in order to get my engineering degree.My dad's a doctor, I wonder how much that'd help. I reckon my medical knowledge is at least a little above average
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>>123446136
Well I had one course like that so I know how this work while you don't! So I say smooch his face and touch his chest awkwardly!
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>>123446760
Nah mate, I may not know CPR properly but I know broken ribs aren't unheard of. You need to exert a lot of force.
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>>123446760
what if it doesn't have a y chromosome
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>>123446860
Smell her hair and try not to look awkwardly away if you make eye contact.
>>123446853
CPR is pretty much useless if you don't break a few ribs
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Would anyone be opposed to me streaming all routes in KS in celebration of the 3000th thread?
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>>123446986
>CPR is pretty much useless if you don't break a few ribs
Thought so. I'm not so sure about the specifics around the kiss of life though, beyond the ABCs
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>>123447023
What order would they be in?
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>>123447259
Strawpoll of stream choice
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>>123447023
Yes, someone, somewhere will be opposed to it.
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>>123447023
Only if I can hear you sigh heavily every time Kenji or Jigoro start a sentence.
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>>123447023
>tfw no more jeff
>tfw he used us
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>>123448163
He took the twitchbucks and left the country.
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>>123448163
>>123448535
I promise not to do that s-senpai
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>>123448163
who the hell is jeff
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I just organised my folder of katawa images
>mfw I had 82 duplicate images
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so close
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>That feel when you will never taste the french vanilla flavor of Lilly's lips
>That feel when you will never give a sleeping Emi a piggyback ride home
>That feel when you will never feel Rin's lips caress your hands as you feed her oranges
>That feel when you will never gaze at the stars with Shizune
>That feel when you will never wake up next to Hanako and take her into a loving embrace
>That feel when you will never feel a sleeping Misha press her soft body against you as you kiss her candy scented hair
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Anyway /ksg/, I'm calling it a night. See you lads tomorrow!
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How do you guys resist the urge to swerve into a wall or tree or whatever and end it all while driving?
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>>123451643
Got more images of Yuuko?
She's fuckable as hell, God damn.
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>>123452943
I'm supposed to be going to sleep but I'll dump all I have, which isn't very much at all unfortunately
This is 2/8
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>>123452707
Goodnight anon, sleep well!
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>>123453085
And now my Internet is fucking up and not letting me post on my PC. I'm just gonna go to bed. Remind me tomorrow Anon
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>>123453262
Good night, then!
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Holy Hell, what are you guys even here still for? What do you talk about? I'm not surprised Patient is still here shitposting about Lilly but we can still escape this hell.
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>>123455130
>we can still escape
>implying
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Goodnight /ksg/, I love all of you very, very much.
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Goodmorning cripple-fuckers!
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>>123458008
>Feet
what the fuck man
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>>123458168

You don't like feet?
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>>123446458

Do girls still wear hair decs into high school
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>>123452741
Because it's the coward way. If I go down in a car, I'll go down the way of a Road Warrior. When I was love sick, I would make dangerous on a snowy mountain pass. For these 15 minutes or less, I was truly free. All my problems vanished. Just me, my car and the road. It was a Glorious feeling.
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Ded Thread.

Post your stories of driving while depressed, be it Katawa relatedor not.
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>>123459809
>Listening to a katawa LP to fill my commute
>Emi's route
she fucks me up every time m8
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Who would be the main heroine: Shiichan or Lils?
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