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We ran outta posts edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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Dead
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>>123371079
Cute
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Doppel sprite best sprite
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xth for cawfee
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defending the sword->pelt->hop3->doppel->drag thing
I know that, but considering I see doppel as incredibly useful for a drag with cyclone/ deeds/ double pay, there's only 1 rank left out, and I don't see many useful barb 1 or corsair 1 stuff for dragoon.
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Everytime I open the launcher my eyes immediately focus on the female Wizard's tits.
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Last thread?
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>>123371296
why not instead do hoplite 2 > squire 2 > dragoon? (for that squire utility/money making potential)

or hoplite 2 > cata 2 > dragoon? (for that mount utility)

why go hop 3? 50 extra crit from finestra doesn't seem that good once you factor in crit gems / pumping some points into DEX.

5 more points in pierce/stabbing doesn't seem all that good since they scale pretty badly
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>>123371239
that guy drawed another /tosg/ attention whore right?
anyone has the end result?
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>>123371372
LAST THREAD >>123325265
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>>123371660

Thanks anon
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>>123370601
I was streaming since first day of kCBT3, until iCBT1 began.
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>>123371453
I'm a min/maxer so I never really think about putting utility class in my DPS-centered character.
We discussed this a lot around here, cata is shit, and there is a high chance that on further ranks of dragoon you'll get a skill that can't be used while mounted.
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>>123371453
The extra 50 crit rate rate is worth about 42 points of Dex, that would be better put into Str. Putting 42 points into Str at rank 7 actually gives you 80 Str because of the 10% Str bonus per class rank. Anything you can do to get crit rate without Dex is a good thing, because Str increases faster. And if you're going to build for your final high rank class you might as well take good buffs from low rank classes, and Finestra is the best buff for spears and Deeds of Valor is good in general.
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>>123371815
Then do what that another anon said and go corsair2 for ridiculous hexen damage.

Spear Lunge makes Hexen hit harder and you can use it with 1h spear+memedagger
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>>123371815
>unmounted dragoon
See, that's the first problem here.
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>>123371296
No hoplite? That self buff is insanely op, 150 crit chance at level 15.
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What's the Grimoire and cards thing Sorcerer's class info is talking about? Do they mean the cards you get from bosses randomly? Do they get consumed on use or anything and do they have different attributes?
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>>123371453
>>123372295
Also multi hit skills like Stabbing scale pretty well because physical attack and element damage add directly to every single hit.
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>>123372342
>dragoon
>one handed spear
I don't see the point of focusing on dragoon if you're going one handed.
>>123372368
what's the problem?
they seem to be going for the FF dragoon more than the real deal.
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>>123372804
It's a shame since Dragoon reminds me of Rune Knight from RO.

In the G-Star trailer they are mounted but that doesn't tell us much about the class. A bunch of the skills are greyed out also.

Prob will go Hop 3 > Doppel I guess. Cyclone with 2handed will probably be damn good.
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>>123372804
Because Dragoon's apparently have the one handed spear equip attribute which means it won't matter what spear you use, not to mention you use 2 handed spears with 1 hand with finestra anyway.
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>>123371296
Whats the point of using pelt if you're not going to use a shield?
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>>123372368
Weren't dragoons mounted infantry? I thought they used firearms too
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>>123373118
Swashbuckling doesn't require a shield.
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>>123373050
>2 handed spear with 1 hand with finestra
I know the sprite ends up wielding it with one hand, but you don't actually get a free slot whenever finestra is up.
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>>123373183
It requires a subweapon though.
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>>123373183
It requires one handed weapons, I'm almost sure. Anyway, why would you taunt every single enemy on screen if you're not doing a tank build?
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>>123373006
Pretty sure any class can use those mounts. The skills greyed out there are skills that can't be used with two hand spears.
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>>123373403
you can always use the weapons switch? have a spear/shield for when you want to tank and the two handed spear for dps
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>>123373504
Why go Dragoon then.
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>>123373006
why don't people ever up the quality on youtube like damn nigga
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>>123373528
why not?

>have one handed weapon/shield equipped
>use swash buckling
>switch to two handed spear
>kill everything

wow
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>>123373528
Why?
Because you fucking can and there's no reason not to.
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>>123373403
Well, that was on the other anon's dragoon build. sword2 and high doesn't look that hot too, so I would go high for the cartar stroke doing strike damage and being multi hit.
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>>123373624
That's retarded.
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>>123373691
why?

swash is one of the best skills out there honestly. it aggros an entire room for you.
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>>123373691
>having a full screen aoe taunt in a game about grinding mobs endlessly is retarded

dude...
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>>123373747
Don't make Dragoon then.
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>>123373494
some of those are skills that can't be used mounted too.
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>>123373790
you're fucking stupid. see >>123373762
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>>123370810
reposting because new thread: Could hopc2 something then fencer do well despite haveing to change weapons frequently?
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>>123373790
>Don't make a class that can use one handed spears and shield/dagger if you want to use swashbuckling

???
you're not making any sense here my man
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Other than to play the mini game, what are cards for?
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>>123373489
>>>123373183
>why would you taunt every single enemy on screen if you're not doing a tank build
For grinding obviously, have you not played the game? You use taunt to pull everything to you then AoE them down. Mobs are spread out in a lot of maps so it's a great tool.
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>>123373873
>>123373898
Dragoon isn't 1h class though.
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>>123371239
Gurinu tea
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>>123373980
>has 1hand spear equip attribute

whatever you say lol
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>>123374091
Still isn't.
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>>123373691
>>123373790
>doing what you can do to min-max is stupid because muh dregun phantasy
>im a min-maxer
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>>123373980
>what is weapon switching

all you fucking do is press L3 in (controller) and your weapon is switched
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>>123374143
>it's not a 1h class just cause I don't want to use a 1h spear

autism
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>trying to see what the crystal in saknis plain does
>kill monster as it links to crystal
oh boy
>>123373904
Sorc stuff, gem food
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>>123374196
>Mace on Dragoon
no
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>>123374269
nigger it's just an example from my other class. god damn you're fucking retarded
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>>123374327
Why are you arguing if you don't even have a Dragoon.
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>>123374148
I'm the anon that mentioned min maxing and I'm not the one you're replying to.
maybe he just want to be a special snowflake.
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>>123374021
gween tea
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>>123374269
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>>123372524
>>123372524
a-anyone
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>>123374638
kek
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>>123374638
Fake, there is no red spear in this game.
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>>123374493
holy shit you're good
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>>123374638
>MS paint spears on dragoon
no
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>>123374493
ya got me there
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>>123371815
>I'm a min/maxer
>I don't see the point of focusing on dragoon if you're going one handed.
Maybe to min-max?
Why do you say you are a min-maxer if you don't want to min-max?

Just equip a fucking 2h spear and roleplay then, faggot
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>>123374662
Yes.
No, they are not consumed. They behave differently and have different stats.
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>>123374736
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/thspear/?item_name=&order=name&grade=4&stars=All&search=

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/spear/?item_name=&order=name&grade=4&stars=All&search=

=^)
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Well, I can see pelt's appeal for Dragoon, but I guess I'll be going swordie 2 for the buffs, including restrain. I can party up with another pelt later on.
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>>123374965
That's orange though.
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>>123375097
shit you're right
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>>123374979
>going for gun ho, concentrate and restain

you do know how terrible those skills are later on right?
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>>123374854
Well, in the case of changing to one hand to use swash buckling I understand, but besides that you're already implying that all dragon skills can be used with one handed spears, that I doubt, even so that in the trailer he used gae bolg, that probably can only be used with two handed spear.
and you're implying two handed spears will never beat one hand spear/meme dagger combo, which I think is too soon to confirm that.
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I don't know barely shit on swordsmen as I've avoided them, but I'm considering a pelt over a linker for OBT as I want to be someone heavily useful to any party and core to party play.

That said I need some help, I've already got most of my plans ready if I were to go linker again (Wiz->Pyro->Linker->Linker->Thaum/Sorc->Alch)
Depends on if thaum can later share 2x EXP or if Sorc gets Temple Shooter nerfed.

For Peltasta play here's the thing, Peltasta 3 looks very appealing the later we get but is very heavily dependent on if we get more mob density later on

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/t1sckyez7v/
I imagine Rank 7 would be Centurion unless Squire 3 is very enticing.

As it is now I'm not sure how many people will enjoy a Centurion party, but it seems it'll be good for WoE/party play if done right. If it's bad I can fall back onto Pelt for tanking/gathering.

With current mob density Pelt1 is usually enough, but not always?
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>>123375097
looks red to me
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>>123375298
it's canon orange
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>>123375262
Dragoon*
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>>123375243
but its like an arde dagger right
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>>123374979

why the fuck would a party want two dragoons? i'll take the one that has the god tier mob pull over your shitty minimal damage increase any day.
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>>123375456
>only dragoon can go pelt on c2 now
ok
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>>123375284
>or if Sorc gets Temple Shooter nerfed.
Hell nop, i'm already planning Sorc2 to see how strong it can get.
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>>123375456
Swashbuckling becomes irrelevant at 150+
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>>123375581
just saying if there's a choice over two swordsman and one of them has swash while the other doesn't. you know who's getting benched
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>>123375609
Necro gives you more damage output than sorc2 does.
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>>123375694
Actually it becomes more relevant than ever thanks to gigantic maps with low spawns, makes it so much easier when you don't have to run 5 miles to tag 3 enemies.
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>>123375694
>Swashbuckling becomes irrelevant at 150+

Swashbuckling is literally the best in Demon Prison. 150 is right smack in the middle of the grind.

It gets even better AFTER that because most mobs don't auto aggro all the way until 200.
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Easiest boss battle ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ErNHWG0jJQ
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>>123375284
your build is viable if you are going to party 24/7 but other than that, you are just a dead meat.
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>>123375694
god you're retarded just stop talking. i bet you haven't even hit 150 or partied with anyone in demon prison.

i'll tell you right now that the fastest time i had grinding was when we had a swordsman in the party with that skill. it was top fucking tier in demon prison 2. you could aggro the entire room full of tree fuckers and aoe them down.
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>Party quests still give x3 lv8 cards at level 200
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>>123375753
Lv10 bats would be nice, but are skeles and cannon really that good? Tbh i never saw cannon in action.
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>>123375935
That archer handicap.
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>>123375935
>level 1 boss
>level 120 archer
>still needs 2 auto attack
L O L
reroll while you can lad.
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rate my pure auto attack swordie/hoplite build

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yl7zjqrl02/

>implying 40% chance to stun with each attack is bad

shit's gonna rape in pvp
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>>123376052
1 level of shoggoth is the same as putting 10 more levels into Summon in terms of DPS, but you also get an extra 80k hp tank.

Flesh hoop is better than cannon, and with skels are just icing on the cake.
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I heard you guys like Chaperon
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Why do the goddesses wear such lewd outfits?

I mean... why don't they just go nude?
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>>123375940
That's the ideal I'm going for but unfortunately finding a group I'm willing to party with guildwise 90%++ of the time is very tough.

I'm also curious about the interaction of Umbro Thrust's armor breaking and Arrest's weaken defense working together
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>>123376171
>autoattack build
>no corsair

excuse me
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>>123376171
>swordman
>rape on pvp
you're raping my sides
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>>123376194
My temple shooter are him, +100exp
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Paladin's Conversion is buggy as hell. Mobs don't even move an inch. They don't even react when attacked. Sometimes they "aggro" other mobs and try to cast things, but nothing happens.
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>>123376171

Restrain's stun lasts literally 1 second. It's shit.

And Hoplite is not good for pvp.
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>>123376429
>>123376546
what's good in pvp then?

is it your class? i bet it's your class.
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>>123376638
Meme cloak
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Man, the word about Bokors getting shat on (again) must be spreading. While I was collecting materials to craft my next weapon, 4 different swordfags challenged me to duels. Even though I had a bare minimum of 20 levels on all of them.

Dudes. Stop. Just because my very existence is painful, it doesn't mean I'm not going to lay down the law on you.
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>>123376194
you can get it from quest (boss drop). I even got 2.
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Holy fuck being on Saule is fucking suffering, no parties to grind with in Demon Prison to speed the process up and doing dungeons with the BRs is a fucking nigthmare due to their shit build paths and no Attribute investment.
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>>123376927
why are you even on saule
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>>123376927
>he fell for the Saule meme

why would you ever switch to that server? anyone with some common sense could tell you they will extend the beta
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>>123376927
Why are you on saule anon? Why are you doing this to yourself?
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>>123377019
I fell for the 1 more week meme. It's too late to reroll I'm already at rank 5 level 146.
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Here's my dragoon build:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/fazawbg9gx/

Also, let me ask you guys, is restrain autoattack-only, or can I stun people with skills as well?
Also, r8
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>>123377106
You can make a lv90 in like 2-3 hours anon. Why are you doing this to yourself?
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>>123371206
But that's the kill stealer hairstyle bro.
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>>123376180
Do you have 2 sorc and necr to say that or did you pull that from your ass.
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>>123377135
restrain is shit. concentrate and gung ho are only good early level and fall off very quick at 140 (just like blessing/zalicai)

you're better off taking highlander for cartar or peltasta for swash buckling
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>>123377170
>2-3 hour
tell me your secrets ToS forum
the double exp is great but level 90 in 2-3 hour?
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I have an Archer C3 and soon will pick up rank 4. I want a good pvp class.

wat do?
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>>123377348
they must know some secrets that i don't.

i no-lifed it on saturday with my hoplite and got to 86 in a little over 4 hours.
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>>123377418
scout > rogue > rogue

scout for cloaking and rogue for backstabbing
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>>123377459

No one kills her ever, she must have shit drops. There is even 2 of them at all times fucking with prison grind.
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>>123377616
Shit drops. Shit mechanics. AoE is over the top.
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>>123377274
Not them, and they're wrong in saying one level is equal to five new levels but
>Sorc 2 gives no new skills whatsoever and only lets you toy with 15 points again
>The Int/SPR scaling is 1.3 for level 10 Summoning
>You get this without having a superior tank
>You will not have Necro's Decay which reduces the target's maximum HP, which Shoggoth has a guaranteed application of for a while after being summoned, including on bosses
>You will not have Corpse Tower's damage output alongside your Shoggoth, summon, your own attacks, familiars, Salamion and Skull Soldier(s)

Sorc1+Necro1 has more to offer than Sorc 2 does
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Close to Rank 5. Sword C2 Barb C2. Go for Memesair or Doppelsoldner?
Also, would Doppel work with a dual wield build? I don't feel like using Two Handed weapons without the Highlander crit attack passive.
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Underrated goddess.
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>>123377771
doppel is c6
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>>123377298
Why are the buffs so shit? I don't understand. I can always invest on attributes, concentrate alone would give more than 100 damage at LVL 50.
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>>123377602
Have you tested this?
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>>123377772
Not lewd enough.
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>>123377298
>zalciai
But it actually scales unlike blessing
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>>123376180
Last time i checked Necro's summons had terrible AI.
Also lv5 summon attack is 0.8x INT
lv10 is 1.3x INT, that is additional 50% damage from INT, it's x% increase so in future it will get stronger.

Anyone can provide webms/vids of necro? I know we had one guy with summ1/necro1.
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>>123377772
are the goddess virgins?
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>>123377839
you don't need extra level on the skills for the attributes though
and 100 isn't that hot of a shit later.
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>>123377815
Oh yeah I know that. uhh.. would taking barbarian to C3 with no highlander passive be ok for a doppel?
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>>123377714
What would you take before summoner and necro?
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>>123377958

Vakarine is. she's will give her purity to the first level 600 revelator.
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>>123373895
When you switch out of Spear to Rapier, you will lose Finestra. So you'd only benefit from Spear Lunge or Finestra, but not both at once.

If this sounds alright to you then there aren't any other issues.
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Cleric x2>Krivis>Sadhu x2>Druid

or

Cleric>Krivis x2>Sadhu x2>Druid?
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>>123378309
Well that's shit, guess I'll go with barbarian c3.
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>>123377942
>tfw no summoning attribute
>necro has an attribute for shaggy
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I don't feel like doing anything at all.
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>>123378174
Whatever playstyle you want to toy with. Just know that Thaumaturge's only synergy with the classes comes from Familiar, Flesh Cannon and the Int buff prior to summoning your cards and Salamion. It and Elementalist are the two wizard classes with the least synergy when in the same build as either class and they're what you'd want someone else in the party to be

>>123378423
Necro not only has an Enhance attribute, but a chance of summoning an enlarged Shoggoth which is double the HP of a regular Shoggoth
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>>123377714
>/tosg/ theoretic department expert opinion
Here I will name 1 reason why necro and its circus gets btfo.
1 beta maxed full int templeshooter abilty is enough to kill any pack of dungeon mobs and is an overkill if linked, you can use it every 30 seconds.
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Leveling a barblander sure is fast, but I feel like I'm really mismatched for the class. Barbarian doesn't suit my playstyle at all so I'm going to reroll.

Will this build work /tosg/?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/hizc1hgztl/

Take pyro for early game, linker is mandatory, thaumaturge for synergy with linker, and sorcerer for fun. However I don't know if 2 ranks in sorcerer is worth it and what skills I should take.
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>>123378414
>>123378043
Unless there are (better) alternatives
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>>123378540
congrats, you can do that same thing with level 5. Except you overkill because Shoggoth just decayed everything in its vicinity
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>>123378423

you don't need since you can feed cards to your shooter.

and talking about shooter, i hope they nerf him a little bit and buff the others to make them a little more interesting. like having a card for each situation
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>>123377714
this may not be relevant for this specific cbt but I feel the need to mention that all sorc skills were moved to c1 for testing, so in the future there may be a bigger difference between sorc c1 and c2
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>>123378492
Azai Gonzou best dad.
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>>123377848
no but at rank 4 you have wugushi and scout.

it seems like wugushi is a good option because of the poison but your opponent can just use 0 cd antidote.

That leaves you to Scout.

and then at Rank 5, you have Rogue and Fletcher. I recommend going all the way to Rogue 2 at Rank 6 for Backstab.

With meme Karacha set, you can easily hit 40k per backstab. That is one hit kill on any person and you can use it twice with 10sec cd.
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>>123378540
I don't understand how that makes taking sorc c2 good when you can do that in C1 and have Necro debuffs on everything for higher overkills
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>>123378613
>>123378721
Proof. And show that awesome pet control.
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>>123378683
He really is a man among men.

His death still leaves me empty inside.
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No pet yet.
Considering blowing some money on that just for the hell of it.

Any differences between them if you don't have a class that makes use of them?
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>>123378626
>buff the others
I want to farm with mummyghast pulling everything around him into my firegrounds.
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>>123378758
>Awesome pet control
>When the game lets Templeshooter miss whatever it wants or target a boss's traps
What are you even trying to do in this conversation?
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>>123378808
You can actually get one for free, check and see if you have a coupon thing in your quest items.
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>>123378912
Huh? Never noticed.
Lemme check.
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Throneweaver is the best looking boss.
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>>123378626
>you don't need since you can feed cards to your shooter
You feed the cards to shoggoth too

>>123378983
I love riding on him.
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>there are people right at this very moment, in this very thread, playing with a controller
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>>123378758
>Proof.

right after you prove your statement.
oh wait
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>>123378969
Only realized it myself the other day. Some of them even give stats.
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Any of you guys have a spare beta account ?
I'm dying to play it but missed the chances to register.
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>>123378859
>Awesome pet control
They need to fix the pet controll for joypad. UI's overlaping.
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>>123379078
Works better for swordsman classes and allows you to sit if you can't already. Controllers are surprisingly good and this is coming from someone that hates them.
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>>123378859
Too bad for you.
>>123379131
I asked it first.

Also you are welcome to find a way and try to outdps me. I will blow you away.
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>>123378912
>>123379168

Hardeeharhar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnH5BGfrV7o
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>>123379078
Controllers are comfiest, but need some tweaking/keybinding.
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>want to do demon prison
>there are already groups, mostly already full controlling pretty much both channels
why are there only two channels there? Fuck, I just want to solo and feel the thrill of almost dying to the mobs because I'm made of glass
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>>123379078
The game was designed for controllers. People who aren't using them are gimping themselves with broken extra supported controls thrown on as an afterthought.
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>>123379348
>complaining when there are two whole channels and double exp
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>>123379308
>asked it first.

doesn't matter
burden of proof is on whoever makes their retarded claim first.

either way you're not going to prove shit and neither am I, so I don't bother responding.
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>>123379427
I'm surprised the game doesn't dynamically allocate channels based on zone population, because it damn well should.
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>>123377772
>underrated
>literal cunt who gets you to kill demonbro for a few xp cards
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>>123379308
Have you even used attack ground? It's awful.
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>>123379526
She'll reward you with mad pussy in the end, I swear.
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>>123376171
>>123376546

Restrain is not even 1 second, it is like half a second, barely an interrupt. And when everyone is just running and jumping away from you, it is useless. You need hard CC if you want to PvP.
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>>123379308
Not that guy but i have seen a templeshooter doing 5k per crit, can necro really outdamage that?
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>>123379337
wasn't screwin with you, maybe you just haven't done the mission yet that gives it to you but it is a quest item and I've gone through two so far.
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>>123376194
Is this a good sorc card before temple shooter or something? I have one, guess I'll save it
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>>123379374
How do you browse the inventory with a controller?
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>>123379702
Its 10k. It fires from both hands. And its not even ability.
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>>123379662
Restrain is surprisingly great in PVE, because it interrupts those fucking spin attacks. It's not a PVP skill by any stretch.
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>>123377714
This is only because it's a beta test and they didn't properly distribute sorcerer skills among circles yet.
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>>123379702
Sure it can.

With 5 in summoning you're looking at 3-3.5k crits on templeshooter.

In addition, your shoggoth hits for 1300 (at level 1), you have the 5 skeletons hitting for ~900 each, and then corpse tower or flesh hoop depending on how your tastes roll. In ADDITION to all of that, you get decay on the shoggoth which is an insanely good debuff.
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>>123376638
Sadhu with possession and Zaibas and mostly monks and the mage class that can throw in a 12 sec sleep.

Like this guy >>123376546 said, hoplite is for pve if you want to go pvpve at least you go BRarbarian cause half of their skills stun far longer than restrain.
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>>123379509
>burden of proof is on whoever makes their retarded claim first.
>Necro gives you more damage output than sorc2 does.
Thats on you then. You wont even summon anything until you have KILLED mobs first and GATHERED corpses, faggot.
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>>123380043
And you have never, ever played the class. I'm glad you just confirmed it by not realizing you BUY CORPSES
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>>123379846
I don't know, but I know the game didn't have mouse support at first. I assume it's like browsing the menus in more typical RPGs.
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>>123377839

>implying you will have max concentrate at level 50

That shit takes years to max out, and you won't have to money to max it at level 50 when you start from zero.

Sword2 is literal trash.
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I don't know how to make money, what's a good place to grind for some?
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>>123380043
Still waiting. :^)
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>>123380108
Ofcourse not, I'm playing with one. And he is shit.
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>>123380210
Uh-huh
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>>123379923

imo u can do 4k crits with summoning 5. how's your int? u got the +49 boots?

decay alone + lvl 5 summon > summoned lvl 10 for dps, u don't even need to add the other skills in the mix.
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>>123380279
>>123380207
>T rated for teens
Forgot where I am.
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>>123380359
>You wont even summon anything until you have KILLED mobs
I mean if people want to say stupid things, they should give warning they're going to say stupid things
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>>123379846
R1 + Start opens UI mode, you can just move the mouse cursor and click around in the inventory.
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>>123379337
I dont know about that either but classes with pets get them for free.
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>>123380493
>>123380210
Right back at you kiddo.
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>>123380359
>can summon all kinds of cool things as necro
>still rather suck on templeshooter cock forever instead of a whole group of summons
why are you so gay anon
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>You can jump during sleep
IMC please.
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>>123380575
A sorc+Necro has actually played Sorc. A Sorc2 has not touched Necro.
>I'm playing with this one person and the class is shit because I said so
The moment you say something like kills being required to summon is the moment you lose credibility because you actually have no idea about anything regarding the class. You're just trying to use someone you supposedly party with as an example.
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>>123380132
HOLY SHIT you guys are insistent. I guess I have no choice then, I'll roll pelt. T-thanks.
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Lets finish it this way since you're fucking children. You find how to measure our dps and I will beat you at it. Until then you're /tosg/ cocksucker theoritists.
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>>123380691
>Getting gangbanged by necro summons while taking temple shooter's two crossbows
>"I-I'm not gay... y-you are!"
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>>123380867
What are you even here for, reddit?
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>>123380867
>theorists
It's funny because that's what you proved yourself to be. You have never touched the class, yet you pre-judge it
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>>123380867
Speedrun party mission solo, go ahead.
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>>123380968
Have you played socr 2? No? Why are you talking to me then?
>>123380986
Which one?
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>>123381049
any
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>>123380829
Why then that makes lolipantsu expert in everything!
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>>123381209
Name one, clown. I've been soloing dungeons here while you were still a fucking wizard.
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>>123381360
Just choose one you indecisive twat, I'll beat your time anyday.
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>>123378548

Please send help!
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>>123381442
Why the hell cant you name one? You are the one who offered it.
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i want reddit to leave
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>Hey Revelator! Tell that guy over there that I don't like him!
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>>123381360
damn, Kirito rolled a mage class in ToS.
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>>123378367
What's the point of sadhu 2?
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>>123378548
>>123381501

So what is your playstyle? How do you expect people to help when you give no information as to what you are looking for in your build?
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>>123381618
Being more ofa fucking faggot than you are already.
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>>123381561
Fine, go do seven hues.
I was giving you the choice since you'll probably need the handicap =^)
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>party members start kissing right in front of you
Why! Why is that allowed!
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>>123381576
hey, that's the best kind of quest.
free exp card.
now when you have to get someone's bag things get hard.
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>>123381680
I was already playing by your retarded offered rules since it wont even be pure dps. You couldnt offered just to kill a boss because you would lose.
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>>123381980
that mission is literally boss -> walk -> kill some mobs -> walk -> boss

quit bitching and get to it
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What are all the mob colors and what do they do?
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>>123378492
what's your most fun build?
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>>123381759
Say no to public indecency.
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I dont even know this game but i like the cute pictures, post more cute characters.
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>BT tries to ks the only one monster I'm killing in demon 2

Really? These fucking subhumans will even try to ks the only one monster I'm trying to kill and he has a party with him.
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>>123382874
cute-o-mancer is cute!
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>>123382471
To clarify, I mean special flashing colors. Like the white ones.

Also are you supposed to be able to get gems outside of dungeons?
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>>123382472
Probably stacking cons on a tank and feeling immortal, but to tell ya the truth everything gets old fast.
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Do Monster Gems give tons of Gem Exp or something?
I've never gotten one but I see others buy, from my perspective, useless ones in shout all the time.
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Anyone on Laima want to do the 190 dungeon?
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>>123382891
There's a fucking group of these subhuman shitlords on laima called fourtwenty that are maximum autists.

Couldn't even KS me without having 3 of them to stop me so they all 5 went in to steal my room I was soloing.

I watched them do this same shit on others, worse part is that they're fucking stupid slow at leveling. I wasn't finding parties so I was taking breaks after every hour or so of demon prison (1lvl/hr~ish), and these fucks took 4 days to leave 1st demon prison.
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>>123383237
yes it'll instantly boost a gem to 5 stars if you use one
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>>123383286
Damn, that's pretty good.
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>>123383237
It's pretty fucking intense to use, that said you would still need hundreds or thousands of these to reach a lvl 10 gem.
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>>123380350
I don't have the boots awakened yet. Can't find an alchemist :(
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>>123383384
I have like 5 cross character, I'm saving them until I can find something I want to actually buy in this game.
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>>123382670
>peltasta
You are the public indecency.
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>>123382670
>NTR in ToS
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>>123383604
TFW THE FUCKING BITCH THAT I GAVE MY FIRST KISS TO AND ADDS ME ON STEAM MADE ME BLUSH RED IRL AND THEN NTR'D ME THE NEXT DAY!
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>>123383252

Shit I forgot there was one, where was it again?
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>>123383862
mage tower entrance, on fedimian suburbs iirc
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>>123383862
Just outside Mage Tower
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Anyone doing awakening services in Laima? I want to try the dream set and roll for necro instead of alch.
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