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>Valkyria: Azure Revolution, Valkyria Chronicles Remaster announced for PS4
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/valkyria-azure-revolution-valkyria-chronicles-remaster-announced-for-ps4
>Valkyria: Azure Revolution teaser website opened
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/valkyria-azure-revolution-teaser-website-opened
>Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator coming to North America in spring 2016
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/guilty-gear-xrd-revelator-coming-north-america-spring-2016
>Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir PS4 Storybook Edition announced
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/odin-sphere-leifthrasir-ps4-storybook-edition-announced
>Deus Ex: Mankind Divided delayed to August 23
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/deus-ex-mankind-divided-delayed-august-23
>Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna details battle system, new characters Kuon and Yomi
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/ikenie-to-yuki-no-setsuna-details-battle-system-new-characters-kuon-yomi
>Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 footage shows tug-of-war, pool hopping
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/dead-alive-xtreme-3-footage-shows-tug-of-war-pool-hopping
>JoJo Trailers
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/jojos-bizarre-adventure-eyes-heaven-adds-anasui-joshu-jojolion-josuke-c-moon-pucci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx9sB4NicyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEqhK7G1Q0
>Super Sonico teaches you how to play Nitroplus Blasterz
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Xth for holy shit February calm down
Makes sense that 2016 gets loaded now that average dev time on non-yearly releases is like 3+ years.
Which makes me think both that this generation will last pretty long and that any platform released from now on will have early droughts unless they start making software for it like 3 years in advance.
>momgen
stop this
>>122756257
>>122756412
>The border to the united states was closed all the fucking day thanks to isis
i just wanted to buy vidya
>>122756513
What will you do when the wall is built?
>>122756989
get a job maintaining the wall
>>122756989
there's already a wall, i have visa passport so i don't care, that fucking trump needs to thanks me for wasting all my money in his country
>>122740742
>bought a ps4 for bloodborne
>stay for the weeb
next year
digimon
doax
persona
star ocean
nier
gravity daze
>>122758147
>Frustrated by her lack of lack of
>>122758250
>Only two those games will stay exclusive
I don't like this game.
>>122758634
>those disgusting plastic faces
What a shit game.
>>122758858
I actually like the design on the younger vampire sister but the others look like 40%.
>tfw Valkyria: Azure looks like fantasy garbage
New designer sucks cocks hard. This is doesn't looks like VC. Takayama's deviant looks good, but what a fuck?
>>122758936
Isn't the new designer the guy from gust who made the arland series?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Ry_nbyCGk
Looks good man.
>>122758634
I thought it was pretty fun but I could see how others wouldn't like it as much.
>>122758936
I'll miss Raita but we couldn't have had him forever. The games themselves always toned down Raitas art anyway.
>>122759429
The last game I'll buy this year.
>>122759429It's kinda strange seeing you here and then on /v/ in a pegging thread.
>>122759429
>hire ero artist
>military game looks like military + good taste fancervise
>hire professional concept artist and one moe illustrator
>game looks like mainstream jap fantasy mambo-jambo with MC from god eater
I found this funny
>>122759884
Raita most likely put more effort into it since an ero artist was hired as the main artist for relatively big videogames with an interesting setting. It was a big deal.
For these new guys it's just another day at the office.
>>122759687
>the APC is amphibious, so it can be driven straight from land onto water
Fucking awesome
>>122759703
Femdom a best
>>122759884
I like the new art, personally. Not quite as much as Raitas stuff, but yeah. The tone is pretty different but I'll wait and see what they're going for overall.
>>122761812
>Femdom a best
Only if you're a cukc
>>122762084
No. Kekhold is the best if you're a kek. Femdom is just the best overall.
>they censored Odin Sphere
JUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Z0QqCXNjw
>>122762221
I don't see where the censorship is
Also
>they specifically use the Odette fight to compare
lel
Looks fucking gorgeous though. Can't wait.
>>122762221
what am I supposed to see here?
>>122761812
>Femdom a best
Now your shit taste is starting to make sense!
>>122762502
It's the only true fetish for betas
Stealth release of Beyond two souls.
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/11/19/beyond-two-souls-releases-digitally-on-ps4-26th-november/?emcid=social_20151119_55446716&adbid=667357068949520384&adbpl=tw&adbpr=36969785
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/19/beyond-two-souls-coming-to-ps4-on-nov-24th-heavy-rain-out-next-year/
>>122763546
Cage be praised!
>OP isn't this
DELETE THREAD
>>122763546I hope at least one of these is on PS+ eventually. I'm not personally that interested in them but I can enjoy anything and all the stuff over the years has made me morbidly curious
>>122763809
Seems EU gets physical while NA is digital only.
>>122762221
I'm ready for Polygon review and TRIGGER HAPPENING
>>122763853
We don't want that trash rehash anyway
>>122763546
>Heavy Rain out next year
BUT THAT'S THE ONE I KINDA CARE ABOUT!
>>122762363
What about VC: Remastered, VC "4", and Bloodborne+Oldhunters? Last thread we talked shit about you, now explain yourself.
>>122764626
>VC: Remastered
Got the PC release of VC so VC Remastered seems a bit redundant for me personally, so I'll likely pass.
>VC "4"
Very interested, but waiting for more info before I get particularly hyped.
>Bloodborne+Oldhunters
Still need to play more of Bloodborne, but now I'm done with the main part of Disgaea 5 I'm thinking of focusing on it next. Haven't played enough BB to know whether I want Old Hunters yet.
>>122764856
Is it true because you were too busy with watch dogs?
>>122764936
He just wanted to live out his spree-killer fantasy where he goes on a rampage shooting people who disagree with him politically.
>>122758936
>tfw Valkyria: Azure looks like fantasy garbage
You mean like how VC was just Fantasy garbage with a military tone slapped on top?
>>122764936
I was mostly playing that around the time BB came out I think, yeah. I really liked it and ended up playing it a ton until I platted it, but I do understand many of the issues people have with it.
>>122765063
Stop being verbalist.
>>122765057
Wasn't watch dogs set in britain or something? I remember because the trailer livestreamed had words flashing
POLICE STATE
CAMERAS EVERYWHERE
GOVERNMENT CONTROLS ALL
People in the chat joked "lol the UK", then
MODERN DAY BRITAIN
And everyone dies of laughter.
So comfy to roam around the wasteland exterminating synths, ghouls and other scum. Shame the console versions don't have mods yet, I wanted my own custom music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
VC remaster already confirmed for Chinese localization.
Maybe the series will end up like Yakuza, only getting Chinese translations from now on.
>>122766108
>only getting Chinese translations*
*And English translations but not released in the West
China and Asia in general have it the best, really.
>>122763546
>Enhanced 1080p graphics including motion blur, bloom and depth of field effects, as well as improved lighting and shadows. The game also makes use of the DualShock 4 speaker to improve immersion when playing as the Entity
Hmm, no mention of framerate. I'd be disappointed if it wasn't 60fps, I'm not somebody who cares so much about framerate anyway but if you're going to make a remaster then there should be no excuse for it not being 60fps or at least giving the option.
>>122766170
What Sega games have English translations only released in Asia?
>>122766265
For one, the Yakuza games on PS4 do.
>>122766108
Nobody in the west buys Japanese games anymore. Everyone is too busy sucking Activision's dick. PS4 owners have pretty shit taste.
>>122766296
Where?
I checked Hong Kong PSN store and import shops, they have Chinese sub versions but no English.
If there was an English sub version of Chikai no basho then I'm sure English speaking Yakuza fans would be importing already instead of lamenting a Yakuza 5 that is digital only.
Sega Asia does Chinese translations, don't think they've translated anything to English.
>>122763546
are these games any good or they are just meme tier?
>>122766671
Cage games are pretty much the only games that actually fit the criteria of "meme game". Not even joking. Literally only good for memes.
HR is alright I guess simply because it's not entirely a movie but occasionally let's you do stuff. Beyond is pure C-tier television with the occasional stop-play prompts.
>>122766770
guess it's out of the wishlist then
>>122766671
Meme tier. David Cage is a joke. Normies love em though.
>>122766378
How about Japanese devs pull their fucking finger out and actually start making games instead of shovelware shit.
Name 5 good Japanese games on the PS4 that aren't remasters.
I'll give you one for free, Bloodborne.
>>122766671
His games are actually really popular outside 4chan.
>>122766882
I have to agree. The most notable games from japan the last year was akiba's trip, nepshit, and what, senran?
>>122767004
No, not really.
>mfw Vicar Amelia heals herself
>>122740616
th-thanks
as far as extras go, it came with a glossy plaque with the Triangle-Circle-Cross-Square logo on one side and the number of the PS4 on the back (3444 of 6500. check out my triples.) it's the same size as a credit card, so I guess it's designed to be carried in a wallet?
it also came with a voucher for 12 months of free Playstation+, if that's what you meant.
>>122767228
Then what?
Is this the part where both sides of the argument base everything they're saying on massive and meaningless generalizations that don't make any considerations for individual games?
How about we don't turn the thread into yet another idiotic argument about the region a game comes from?
>>122766882
Disgaea 5, Atelier Sophie, Yoru No Nai Kuni, Megadimension Nep, Senran.
>>122767290
Stay aggressive.
>>122767290
How much tacobell you had to eat to win?
Did you achieve greatness?
>>122766882
That's because last gen, when Japan actually tried, nobody gave two shits about their games.
Dragon's Dogma? Sold 1/10th of Skyrim. Financial failure for Capcom, which made them take less risks.
SEGA? Almost all their big IPs failed in the west. Went back to just caring about the Jap market.
From Software? One of the few devs that actually managed to sell games last gen and thus made Bloodborne.
SCEJ? All their Jap games flopped.
I can keep going. Truth is, a Japanese game will never sell as much as a western game, even if its better. Simply because the market and reviewers will always be biased towards western games.
You're asking them to make big ass games that nobody will buy anyways due to Activision and EA carrying more marketing power. Be reasonable.
>>122767386
>Yoru No Nai Kun
>Megadimension Nep
>Senran
Are you actually being serious?
>>122767440
Don't forget that Tales of Vesperia, one of the best Modern Tales was released only for 360 in America, while the superior PS3 version was left in Japanese shores, where no matter how hard we ask, can never come here even in Digital form.
And that the FF13 trilogy was killing the brand to western audiences, creating a divide of people who either went 'fuck JPRGs now' and 'I need new JRPG franchises to get into' while the remains stayed on the sinking ship.
It's sad when even Xillia 1, for all it's faults is probably one of the better JRPGs on the PS3.
>>122767976
>Don't forget that Tales of Vesperia, one of the best Modern Tales was released only for 360 in America, while the superior PS3 version was left in Japanese shores, where no matter how hard we ask, can never come here even in Digital form.
Kinda unrelated but that reminds me, PS3 version of Last Remnant keeps showing up on "most wanted" lists in Japan.
>>122767976
Let's not forget normie taste is awful in general.
I heard a faggot say Persona was as bad as Twilight, and that Ni No Kuni was saving JRPGs.
>>122768767
Persona is as bad as twilight though. It even preys on the same supernatural power fantasies.
>momgen in the op
>bp isn'tgood
>>122768767
Ni No Kuni was a pretty good game aside from the handholding throughout, but it sure was not saving JRPGs.
If it were more in depth and not like a very lite "For Everyone" RPG it'd probably be much better.
>Persona as bad as Twilight
They are delusional.
>>122768937
I'm sorry show me a point in Persona where someone tries to kill themselves over and over to see a force ghost of a sparkling vampire?
>>122767386
>shittest Disgaea
>shittest Atelier
>just a shit game
>okayish game of a shovelware franchise
>shit DLC ridden shovelware game
COOL.
You should have said Metal Gear and Resident Evil Revelations 2, you utter moron
>>122769119
>>shittest Disgaea
He said 5, not 3
>>shittest Atelier
He said Sophie, not Meruru (fuck Astrid and her bullshit.)
>>just a shit game
>Haven't played it yet and already calling it shit
>>122769086
envokers
>>122769086
or where a shirtless guy fawns over a newborn baby
>>122769318
Which are only in 3, and do not actually harm you at all.
What should the first game that I buy for my ps4 be?
>>122769238
Most people don't know this but Yoru is just fairly mediocre. Overall it's about as average as you can get and it's very clear that it's the Gust B-team who worked on it. People calling it shit are just parrots who've never played it.
>>122767976
MS actually ruined a lot of Jap devs last gen. They were moneyhatted pretty heavily and then their games sold like shit on 360. It just hurt those IPs and it also hurt the PS3, which was the savior Japan needed.
Luckily, this gen Japs are slightly smarter. They've ditched MS entirely knowing the audience is beyond saving and they're actually making games for relevant platforms. They fucked up not supporting PS4 from the get-go. They lost a lot of momentum there to western publishers who capitalized on the game drought by selling trash like Watch Dogs in millions. Japanese publishers is in a weird spot really. Go for consoles, with limited install base in Japan or go mobile with huge install base but huge risk/revenue.
>>122769341
Do you think being as bad as something means it has to have the exact same scenes?
>>122769451
Doesn't matter if it doesn't hurt you. The imagery is the same. You shoot yourself in the head to make contact with a powerful supernatural enemy. It is glorifying the same shit as Twilight.
>>122769585
I'd have to agree with this. I mean, I enjoyed it, but I've certainly played much better games.
>>122769627
I'm just pointing out stupid shit in Twilight where even the worst of Persona doesn't come close.
>The imagery is the same
But the context is completely different. In Twilight's context, Bella is a fucking retard who couldn't accept her 'one true and only love' left her and so she tried to kill herself to see a force ghost which was also never explained, in Persona the context is they need to put themselves under duress to bring about their Persona.
I dunno why I'm even bothering though, since you're obviously a shitposter trying to stir shit up.
>>122769627
Actually, Twilight glorifies love for a supernatural entity and only much later glorifies becoming one, where becoming said entity is only a plot device and is not actually relevant to the character beyond that point. It places the main characters in a state where she struggles with her love for something that she should or can't love through out the series.
Persona, in all forms glorify you fighting supernatural entities with your own magical powers, essentially a teenage power fantasy that also has the illusion of leading a normal life among these supernatural instances. There is love in Persona, but it isn't tied to the overall game thematic since you can choose whoever you want with no regard for canon and it also doesn't overglorify this love. Instead it portrays it as a slowly built up relationship between you(The player) and a girl of your choosing whereas in Twilight it sliterally a "Love at first sight we are meant for each other oh shit useless girl with nothing is suddenly want to fucked by the sexiest guy in school" bullshit.
They're pretty different.
>>122769739
>>122769585
Well yes, factually yoru is mediocre. I mean it's functional, you can play it. Most games are not shit, shit games can barely be played. You can play Yoru.
It will be unstimulating, mediocre, uninspired and overall a waste of time though.
It's certainly not a game one should parade around as a counterargument to the notion that people on PS4 play GTA and CoD because japanese games are just not good atm.
>>122768965
>They are delusional.Worst part is he was that retarded host of Iga's Bloodstained Finale stream
>>122770360
I don't care about that. My post was only relevant to people calling Yoru a shitty game when it's absolutely average quality.
>>122769739
is that a psp port?
>>122770360
>because japanese games are just not good atm.
Blame the economy, not the developers.
You can only do so much when your currency is becoming shittier by the day and games require budget.
Only reason 15 and DQ11 look nice is because Square has a budget.
>>122770360
I don't know about "uninspired". The game is pretty unique overall.
>>122770472
funny story, yes
>>122770472
Show me a PSP game that looks better than that.
>>122770467
fair enough
>>122770563
also fair enough. I don't blame the japanese devs. Japs play mostly jap games, westerners mostly western games, barely any jap owned a PS4 so far, why would you make games for that plattform with any considerable budget? I get it.
It's still sad.
>>122770598
What about it is unique? If something is unique, is it automatically inspired?
It just seems to bland man, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>122770693
FF0, Parasite Eve, God Of War PSP 1&2, Peacewalker
We would be talking about the sometimes theoretical upscaled, ported, versions here.
>>122770849
>What about it is unique? If something is unique, is it automatically inspired?
The story is actually somewhat unique, it doesn't use any storytelling elements that and has similar aspects to other stories, but that's any written work every pretty much. For something to be uninspired, it'd have to lack any originality at all, no unique aspects in the characters, the gameplay, the design or the atmosphere or the setting.
>>122770693
Type-0 for one
>>122770028
>>122770197
Like I said before, the scenes don't have to be the same. They both glorify a self-harm and mysticism in a power and self-congratulatory fantasy. They are both garbage in the exact same ways when you distance yourself from them and look at them objectively.
Sadly, you are too hung up on Persona to see that. You desperately defending persona is no different than how Twilight fans think Twilight is a masterpiece.
>>122771226
Yeah, if you're talking about the PS4 version.
>>122770953
You're crazy. Go google pictures of those games and then google images of Yokuni. And no, upscaled versions do not count. It's like playing a game with all the extra add-ons using emulator and calling it better.
>>122771226
>>122770953
Is Type-0 actually any fun?
rate my normie collection fuccboigen
>>122770563
and that most Companies are still bogging down their games by having PS3 and/or even Vita versions of their games.
This causes 3 problems.
1. More development time/money spent on making sure the versions all run, and that if they can't run something on 1 version they have to dial it down in either that version, or in the PS4 version to make it not vastly superior.
2. You are limiting the game because the other version or two can't be vastly inferior to the PS4 version. This applies to graphics, how it runs, and for Vita vs console version how much content you can have before the Vita cart runs out of space. (Same reason I've worried about DQ11 having a 3DS version)
3. Develops lose more than they gain. Because Vita is basically dead in the west, and that people are moving on from PS3 to PS4 the fact that Japanese devs cover their asses by making multiple versions only serves to damage them in the long run. Because Vita versions won't sell westward, nor will PS3 versions, and the PS4 version isn't on the level most people except from PS4 thanks to FF15 so to normalfags the game looks like 'shit' and thus only real JRPG fans buy it, but they're buying a product watered down by reasons 1 and 2
>>122771382
Anon the first post explicitly asked was Yoru a PSP port, why would we NOT compare it to PSP ports when that's what it was originally said to look like?
>>122771463
Why do you buy so much trash?
>>122771298
Well, first off. Aside from being wrong, the scenes don't have to be the same but you're arguing they are the same quality because they both have similar elements that make it so. My argument clearly stated the difference between both aspects, elements and how they are completely unrelated and different thus disproving whatever inane claim you're attempting to make to make.
You can't just say one thing is bad as another just because you don't like thing. Neither of those aspects inherently make anything bad in the first place, Twilight is shit because it's written like shit. Not because it's a supernatural love fantasy.
>>122771463
>>122771508
Except Vita versions of jap games consistently sell more than PS4 versions and are thus the primary platform for the vast majority of them.
What you're suggesting is jap devs drop their main revenue spurce for a marginally easier development period, which is fucking retarded.
>>122771508
I really hate PS4-Vita games. It's fucking obvious the shitty RAM and everything else with the Vita is holding the PS4 version back. It's becoming a red flag for Japanese PS4 games. Is there a Vita version? Then avoid it.
PS3 is different because a PS3 game running at 720p 30 fps translates well into 1080p 60 fps on PS4, as with Yakuza. Just fucking stop with the Vita ports.
>>122771551
Comparing it to an upscaled version of a game, dumbass. It's like you saying Skyrim looks better than any other Bethesda game after you've used every single aesthetical mod to make it look better.
You use the base game as judgement for the quality of the visuals. Not the souped up version.
>>122771634
Persona is shit because it is written like shit.
>>122771630
Because the PS4 has no games so I must take what's there
I'm also not learning a shitty meme language to play non-localised titles either tbqh senpaitichi
>>122771820
Tell me how it's written like shit. If you'd really prefer to have this argument in regards to both Twilight and Persona, as in, the quality of their writing, then I'm game.
>>122771805
The Vita has more RAM than the PS3
>>122771753
We're approaching the point where PS4 versions are outselling the Vita versions. Hunting games are an exception.
Either way, so long as Japan clings on to Vita letting its game look like early last-gen games, they won't have a chance in the west. They're also stagnating the Japanese market by relying on outdated hardware that is bested by regular phones. Japs won't buy a PS4 if they don't have a reason to. Only Square Enix seems to realize they can't rely on Vita and PS3 for eternity.
>>122771808
Anon you're mentally deficient
>Someone said it looks like a psp PORT.
>You ask for examples of psp games that aren't ports that look better, despite the fact it was compared to PORTS.
>Therefore you're attacking a point they never made, and look like a retard for doing so.
>>122771871
>Because the PS4 has no games so I must take what's there
You could've literally just built a PC with all the money spent on those trash games. Plenty of Jap games to play if you have both a PS4 and PC.
>>122772008
>Only Square Enix seems to realize they can't rely on Vita
Why is why they keep making vita games?
![158318-God_of_War_-_Ghost_of_Sparta_(USA)-12[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5eLkdGT.jpg "158318-God_of_War_-_Ghost_of_Sparta_(USA)-12[1].jpg")
>>122771382
I said PSP PORT.
Btw the picture doesn't really do the game justice because of all the animations going on in the environment and background geometry.
This is literally a psp port on a PS3.
Yoru is an original PS4 game. It looks poor, admit it.
>>122771463
>ffxiv
>doesn't have heavensward
>>122772012
My post specifically asked for a PSP game that looked better than that. I wasn't talking about PSP ports.
>>122771981
>Vita can't even run Disgaea 4 as well as the PS3 version.
>>122772126
Which is why they're making Vita games that fit the Vita but won't allow its bigger IPs be held back by mobile hardware from 2012.
>>122772135
>>122771808
man that game really does looks so good https://youtu.be/VMZqGjgLJXU?t=11m40s
>>122772126
Not him, but SE is at least making some Vita games that are just Vita games.
Hell I bet the PS4 version of World of FF was literally made for the FF7R fakeout but without talking about the Vita.
>>122771981
Vita has more VRAM than PS3? Really? Then why do Vita games have really small stages and shit? I love the Vita but I don't want the PS4 limited by it.
>>122772248
>A asks if Yoru is a PSP port
>B demands to see a PSP game NOT PORT THOUGH that looks better than Yoru
>B actually thinks this is a clever defense of Yoru
I mean shit now I know who these games are for.
>>122772008
You're still saying they should cut off at least 40% of their potential domestic market just so they have the option to expand their budgets vastly to develop games with modern visuals for a smaller market just on the offchance they few that get localized will sell better in the west to "muh grafix" normies.
It makes no sense from a business perspective whatsoever.
>>122772430
I literally asked for a PSP game that looks better. My posts says PSP game, it says nothing about a port. But you insisted I was talking about ports.
>>122772112
>PC gaming
Yeah like I'll stoop that low. I haven't lost control of my life just yet, anon.
>>122772495
Holy fuck you cannot read.
>>122772585
I don't think you can read. You assumed I was asking about ports when I pretty distinctly said a PSP game.
>>122772495
are you actually mentally handicapped?
What is even going on holy shit
Can't deal with this anymore, going offline.
Be happy you're anonymous man, redicule would follow you for the rest of your time here.
>>122772171
I do, my heavensward is digital
>>122772668
No, anon. I never assumed you were asking about ports, I just popped into the conversation to call you a retard for NOT asking for ports.
>>122771920
I gave you as much info as you gave for Twilight.
>>122772668
lol
>>122772489
The thing is that these games don't exist in a vacuum. Even in Japan, you're seeing western games sell more and more by the year. And these are high-end blockbuster productions. So long as Japanese publishers cling to outdated hardware due to fear to jump on the changing times, their games will be at a disadvantage compared to full-blown PS4 games. How will they even market these games when the latest CoD looks almost photo-realistic while their game looks like an early PS3 game?
I don't mind ugly games. But I'm not as oblivious to think that Japan can still remain relevant if they don't attempt to adapt to modern hardware. The problem I have with Vita ports and not PS3 ports is that Vita's architecture limits a game's scope substantially. And we're living in an era where everybody wants their games massive.
>>122772848
And I asked you to tell me how it's written like shit.
>>122772948
Don't bother with him.
He's just shitposting.
Even 40 in max 'Persona is a niche franchise' mode wouldn't say Persona is Twilight level.
>>122772948
Same way Twilight is.
Look, you say this other fandom is based on a shit property, and you just expect people to accept it as fact. Yet, we someone turns that around on you, you act like it is a mortal sin.
You clearly aren't open to reason. You have already convinced yourself that the thing other people like is shit, but what you like is perfect. It doesn't matter how in depth I went; it's clear that you already have your mind made up (as evidenced by your demand that I give specifics while acting like your own claim is simple fact, uneeding of support or evidence).
Continuing a discussion like this with a fanboy is a waste of time, though. I am just going to ignore you from this point on, so you may as well not even bother replying, fanboy.
>people saying X is twilight
It's not 2010 anymore. Do you make Justin Beiber jokes as well?
>>122773327
At least you proved you have absolutely zero ability to argue any of my aforementioned points, can't tell me why X is shit and then resort to the classic "I'm going to ignore you, don't even bother replying" shtick that about 100% of people who have no argument do when they run away scared.
>>122773326
I hope you don't take me saying that Persona isn't some megahitter with the weight of Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts as me shitting on the game. I don't intend to outright shit on the games, because I like what I've played of them.
Just that people massively overestimate the size and relevancy of the franchise and seem to expect it in places it would never be.
>>122773540
Why would you even respond? Are you retarded?
>>122773446
I was simply quoting a normalfag who once said that line because at the time we were discussing normalfags having shit taste in RPGs.
Then someone went 'It is though.'
>>122773540
>Just that people massively overestimate the size and relevancy of the franchise
1 million is not niche.
Anything past 750K units sold is not niche. It's not Triple A either.
Look at how little Teraway sold and how much time it go on stage. Do you think Persona, which even at it's lowest point sold more, deserves less time on stage than it?
>>122773617
>Are you retarded?
Well he does think Lightning is attractive and is into Femdom
>>122773891
I like some light femdom too, though.
>>122773971
He's into castration and NTR levels.
>>122774051
That's too much for me.
>>122773671
I don't believe you, I think you made it up to rile shit up and start shitposting.
>>122767386
downed her eventually. it helped to stay really close and start attacking as soon as her heal started, thanks for the advice
>>122767428
I actually got it on my first try without meaning to. Taco Bell probably got their money's worth though because all of my friends started buying the box meal after that.
>>122774168
It's true. I can even find the video in question, but it's such blatant faggotry that it would cause everyone to cringe.
>>122773617
Because his wording implies that he (possibly) thinks I'm trying to shit on Persona whenever I tried to discuss the size of the franchise. Which I'm not. I don't even intend to belittle it, just hopefully get people to make their expectations more realistic.
I've quite enjoyed what I've played of P3 and P4.
>>122773891
It's not the nichest thing ever, no, but it's about the same size as many other franchises that have traditionally gotten very little stage time at events too.
People seem to expect it to show up at every Sony conference (TGS I can understand, less so with E3 or Gamescom and the like) and get upset when it isn't there. The same however doesn't happen with Tales or most other Sometimes-Million-Seller franchises at these things, because they tend to understand the scale and relevance of each event and the games they're talking about.
This is ignoring the fact that Atlus are known to prefer their own outlets for revealing things, especially with Persona, and are thus less likely to show it at events because of that.
Tearaway is a first party game and is naturally going to have more presence because it's a Sony IP developed by one of their most notable internal studios. That alone is going to get it more stage time than Tales or Persona are ever likely to have.
>>122774198
How fat are you?
Digital Foundry: Hands-on with PS4's PlayStation 2 emulation
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation
>>122774979
Native upscale? I really want PS2 games in native 1080p.
>>122774198
No problem man. Another method would be using those heal prevention vials, you find 5 in a tower off the path.
>>122774979
Problem with this is the same as for X1s 360 BC.
It's gonna depend on publishers allowing it.
It's gonna end up being a limited list with a couple of gems and a bunch of stuff nobody missed.
>>122774979
>increased resolution
>better performance in places
Fucking nice.
Do these Star Wars ones support remote play? Haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.
Considering how they did this so quietly, I'd assume they'll sell them as a separate thing from "PS2 Classics" on PS3 though, so no crossbuy. Damn shame if so.
Would buy the Katamari and GTA games.
>>122774581
But they can't keep putting money on the same racehorse. They HAVE to eventually realize that they have just as strong a third party as they do a first party. They can't say they have FF15, or hell even KH anymore. Their only Japanese Third party exclusive release they've promoted this year was Bloodborne.
They need to market something else in case FF15 turns out to be a critical flop, and KH3 has had it's share of criticism already. They need a back up, and with Tale games declining in quality, that means either Dragon Quest, Persona, or some other franchise.
>>122774979
>looking for a combination of twiggei vaiabes in sequence
why digital foundry always use Elmer Fudd as voice-over?
>>122776010
Third party is one of their main things, much like it always has been. PlayStations entire shtick is attempting to be the go to for everything, especially this gen. Third party support has always been central to that. But not every third party can get stage time.
>They can't say they have FF15, or hell even KH anymore.
Yes they can. Those games are being released on PS4. Games that are Sony-only don't get elevated above FF15 in relevance to the PlayStation audiences interests simply because an Xbox One version of FF15 exists.
Ultimately I agree that Sony could do with pushing more mid to large Japanese IPs though. But that's not something Sony can do solely on their own - they need the games to be be something that can work well for that. They're developing Gravity Rush 2, Gran Turismo Sport and The Last Guardian as large first party titles, but those alone aren't going to change the market.
Though regardless, mid-scale Japanese games still wouldn't get much stage time much like most mid-scale western ones don't.
>>122777467
I'm glad people are buying multiplats on PS4.
Means that Sony won't try to moneyhat third-parties into exclusivity deals and I can enjoy my 60 fps PC ports from the sidelines with free online play.
PS4 will be reserved for niche Jap games like DOAX3.
>>122767976
>It's sad when even Xillia 1, for all it's faults is probably one of the better JRPGs on the PS3.
Thinking about this, you're right actually. That's sad. Of course, Nier, Valkyria Chronicles and Demon's Souls were all fantastic, but those are the only PS3 RPGs I'd call great.
>>122768965
Ni No Kuni just got worse and worse the more you played. Up to and including Ding Dong Dell I thought it was absolutely amazing, but man, did that game wear you out after that. Maybe the DS version was better.
>>122777904
Did it? I don't think Ni No Kuni got any worse. It was pretty consistently decent throughout. The worst thing about it was that it was a pure handholding game and very easy. But everything from the story and characters, the themes and the excellent setting were really good.
>>122758936
Tell me something. That game is for PS4 or not?
>>122775082
Looks good so far.
>>122778281
Looks good. PS2 games look awful upscaled to 1080p without native upscale aswell.
>>122778014
>30+ hours in
>oh look it's a grass monster, maybe you should use ...
>FUCKING FIRE, stfu Drippy!
not him, but the handholding is literally the reason i stopped playing the game. it's like the tutorial never ends and there's too much useless dialogue.
>>122778718
That is so insignificant to me that it didn't bother me at all. Maybe I just have a higher tolerance for things like that because I can just ignore it.
>>122778240
Yes
>>122778794
That was just an example, they basically do stuff like that in every instance throughout the game like with emotions, exploring etc, in blocks of text
I'd rather pass on a game that treats you like you're still a toddler.
>>122778281
Well I'm waiting before I can see it in motion, because that picture is bullshit
PS2 games were not just blurry
>>122777467
>Yes they can. Those games are being released on PS4. Games that are Sony-only don't get elevated above FF15 in relevance to the PlayStation audiences interests simply because an Xbox One version of FF15 exists.
When buying a console people generally buy it on the terms of what exclusives it has because they want to argue 'why should I have X over Y?'
The more exclusives X has over Y, the more reason you should get X. I got PS4 for Bloodborne, D5, the PS4 versions of upcoming multi-gen games like SO5 and P5 and of course for 15 and KH3. Even if I wasn't enraged by Xbone's reveal event being the biggest load of corporate bullshit ever, I still would have bought PS4 over Bone on the basis of the games I listed and then gotten the multi plats.
Problem is, I know those games exist because of the internet and scouring across it. Not everyone else does.
>>122779096
Yeah, but it's easy to just ignore. Just play the game, it's a non-issue. It's terrible, for sure, but it's not a big deal. If that itself makes the game bad for a lot of people, then that really isn't very fair to the game at all since the other game factors are actually quite good.
>>122779246
>since the other game factors are actually quite good.
One of them not being the AI and capture rate.
>>122779246
Spamming x and hoping you don't miss plot points is more tedious than fun, don't forget those non skippable enemy cutscenes for EVERY encounter.
>>122763710
fucking this OP gay as fuck
>>122779684
Kek, that looks disgusting
>>122779808
Homosexual confirmed
>>122779601
If you were just spamming x, you were intentionally playing the game incorrectly. You would not beat the entire game by just spamming a single button the entire time.
What plot points could you miss? I've never once had this issue. And what cutscenes are you talking about?
>>122779445
Yeah, the AI was quite bad. But that also plays into the game difficulty where it was only so to make a game easy. A game being easy isn't inherently bad, but when that difficulty means your partners also control terribly in conjunction it doesn't play out. Capture right I thought was fine. Never had an issue getting the monsters I wanted. Only time it was a chore was when I had to grind them out for the trophy.
>>122779808
homo pls go
>>122779924
>>122779963my butt is better than hers though
>Gravity Rush gets a physical release and David Cage shit doesnt
Great feel
>>122779209
>When buying a console people generally buy it on the terms of what exclusives it has because they want to argue 'why should I have X over Y?'
For console traditionalists that's how it goes but for a lot of people it's "I want to play FIFA and COD with my bros and they're on X platform so I'm gonna buy that platform too!".
That's why companies are all "muh ecosystem!" these days.
Just look at PC, people are all upset when a company pulls out of steam to make their own alternative, because people are so plugged into the steam ecosystem they don't want to leave it.
>>122779924
>>122779963
Sry, but I prefer real asses not lumpy pancakes
>>122780075
there is nothing good on you
DON'T BUY SWORD ART ONLINE PS4, THIS GAME IT'S A TRAP!
>>122780234
Censored.
>>122780285
You mean Lost Song.
HF is okay for being based off a shitty series.
>>122774581
Just ignore the guy who always says that Persona isnt a niche series.
Is PS4gen actually buttgen?
>>122780234
>he doesn't know
>>122780661
Yes considering all these bp lovers are probably into sweaty/sloppy male to male buttsex
>>122780629
>a Million units is Niche.
>>122780234
>Sry, but I prefer Censored asses not lumpy pancakes
eyyyy
>>122780661
I prefer tits.
>>122779209
That's not how the market works. Most consumers just want a general gaming device. Call of Duty, Ass Creed (less so now I guess), Batman, Final Fantasy and other major IPs push console sales and sell more units on PS4 alone than most exclusives do. That's not to say exclusives are worthless - Uncharted 4 will undoubtedly push the PS4 hard, even harder than the other AAA games I mentioned here, because it's exclusive - but that's because it's a large IP too.
I bought my PS4 mostly for the first party and smaller Japanese third parties, which are all Sony-only or PS4 exclusive, I'm no different to you. But me and you don't represent the majority audience at all.
>Problem is, I know those games exist because of the internet and scouring across it. Not everyone else does.
Ultimately that's just a fact of life. Not everything can be shoved in peoples faces at E3. Sony has methods of presenting these kinds of games - that's what their social media platforms are for. Of course, they can get drowned out there, but that's how the world works. There is no way to show everyone everything.
Though again I don't necessarily agree with the weight Sony puts on particular things. I certainly think SCEAs actions regarding Gravity Rush in the past couple months are fishy and imply they don't want to put much weight behind it, which I think could result in hurting the IP ultimately.
>>122780258
Nyotengu is LITERALLY PERFECT.
>>122781015
>literally a line going down her back
ayy, how can a game entirely focused on T&A fail so hard
>>122776010
>They HAVE to eventually realize that they have just as strong a third party as they do a first party.
They do have ample third party support. This isnt like last gen where all third party games came on 360 and the few that came to PS3 ran much worse for the first two years. Their first party initiative only started more recently since third party exclusives started getting more expensive and they needed a series with pedigree. Which is why they push ND so hard.
>They can't say they have FF15, or hell even KH anymore.
Yes, but theyre getting exclusives bavk since 2.8 is going to be on PS4 only.
>Their only Japanese Third party exclusive release they've promoted this year was Bloodborne.
Bloodborne is second party
>They need to market something else in case FF15 turns out to be a critical flop, and KH3 has had it's share of criticism already.
None of those are in Sonys interest since they dont own them.
>>122780971
No Persona game has sold a million units. Even if it did its still niche in the major games market, you can't buy Persona games at department stores and they sell over time, not front loaded.
>>122782229
>No Persona game has sold a million units
2, 4 and 4G did.
>>122781560
>>122781015
>>122779684
ass and thighs
how do you get Item World Event items??? I've got a r40 from killing item god 2 but never seen anything like an Ttem World Event before
>>122783326
A world event needs to happen bruh
>>122772495
>>122772668
holy fuck 3rd party here
are you genuinely autistic?
we get it you said psp game, not a port, but your autism completely fucking crippled your comprehension with this post >>122772430
Like do you just not get it or something?
It reminds me limmy with the feathers and the steel, he just doesn't get it even though it's blatantly obvious and the others around him don't understand why he doesn't get it.
>>122783464
>2 hours ago
>>122783053
>that webm
My dick.
>>122783528
cool m8, good to know what's ITT doesn't matter if it was X arbitrary time ago, people can't catch up with the thread because they were busy IRL.
That's such a forward thinking and revolutionary way in the likeness of Reddit my main man XD, you get an upvote good sir :^)
>>122783053
Is this actually worth watching or is it just a webm here and there making it seem like it's decent?
>>122783962
Yes and No.
It's really got no plot.
But damn does it have the biggest amount of boners a series can have.
>>122780258
>yada yada
How's Lost Song?
Planning to buy a ps4 for black ops and that.
Already have a Vita and I'm afraid Lost Song multiplayer on that is gonna dry up after a month.
>>122784892
It's a simpler version of its predecessor with some hunting elements
Good night ps4gen
>>122763546
Physical?
I'm gland I held off on Zombi due to its upcoming physical release.
>>122782852
[citation needed]
>>122785094
don't come back aussie
>>122783434
what is that???
>>122784956
What about the waifus?
>>122785094
fucking aussies lmao
>>122785621
I'm not sure, I'll have to ask my friend.
>>122785490
Don't respond m8
>>122779684
Ahahaha
>>122784892
Worse than HF
>>122780713
Oh wow what the fuck
>>122786851
They switched her fighting stance too.
Now you only see the front of her thighs, instead of her ass jiggling from side to side when she moves sideways.
Question. I have $20 in my ps wallet. I want to buy old hunters with it. But i'm skeptical because of how quickly bloodborne's price dropped. So I was thinking of just waiting a month, seeing if it goes on sale for christmas or what have you, then if not, picking it up. Good idea or stupid? Would I be better off just buying at the start so I don't miss having people to play with?
>>122787332
I don't think DLCs drop in price that often, especially one thats coming out in time for the holidays.
>>122786851
Sign the Petition.
https://www.change.org/p/capcom-do-not-censor-street-fighter-v?source_location=petitions_share_skip
>>122787472
>implying that'll change anything
If you want T&A just get the PC version waifufags
>>122787753
It's the principal of the matter
>>122787936
What principle?
It's their game they can do whatever they want, if you don't like it don't buy it.
How much longer can we expect to wait for a price drop on Dragon Quest Heroes?
>>122788553
Holiday. Deep discount in a sale (I guess $30) followed by a $10 maybe $20 cut in standard.
>>122787112
Preorder cancelled. Street Fighter is a shitty fighting game anyways.
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/ps4-star-wars-classics-run-ps2-emulation
>PS2 BC is basically confirmed
How exciting there are some games I'd really like to have trophies for. I wonder if we'll get the option to buy them digitally, or if they'll only work on discs.
>>122767440
TES:O scores were probably taken before the update that every1 says killed the game lol
>>122789008
Considering they only have support for it digitally right now, I imagine it will be digital only. They'll probably just open up the PS2 classics section to the PS4. Which is fine by me, they have to know PSnow isn't going to be the success they want it to be. I can't think of anyone on my friends list that ever even bothered with the free trial.
And I still have money sitting in a nice little case set aside for when they add the xenosaga trilogy to the PS store.
>Battlefront gets praised for having 70's style special effects
>Godzilla gets crucified for doing the same thing and not looking like the 2014 Hollywood movie
Modern games media, everyone.
>>122789008
I hope you'll enjoy the ten games they'll release on it. With maybe 1 or 2 being of any note.
>>122771463
>tfw wish I bought the physical copy of XXIV now
would have looked pretty :c
>>122789325
Because Godzilla takes time. Reviewers, even ones on the internet who are under no time constraint, don't have time!
>>122789008
Ooh I hope I can run my copy of P3FES on PS4 soon!
>>122788956
>>122789008
>Dark Cloud 2 with Trophies soon
http://gematsu.com/2015/09/ape-escape-2-dark-cloud-2-twisted-metal-black-rated-ps4-europe
Wonder it they will reopen Twisted Metal Black Servers and if those SOCOMfags will get their wish.
>>122789545
This is exactly why I'm excited. I've been holding off on P3 because I didn't know which version to play even though I one both FES and Portable. If there are trophies I'll definitely play FES.
>>122789620
I'd really like to try the Dark Cloud games again. My dad bought me the first one when I was 8 but I fucking hated it because I had no idea what I was doing.
Isn't a new game rumored to in the works at Level5?
>>122789545
>>122789897
Maybe they'll do like Star Wars and have a Persona bundle that includes P3 and P4.
>>122789325
To be fair, the latest Godzilla was boring as fuck. Control were weird, movelist was almost inexistant and the "story" mode is the same shit over and over until you overdose.
>>122790292
They could. Atlus is really into selling their old games digitally.
Our purchases better carry over though.
>>122790292
Hah
Hahaha
Nope.
