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"Why does Robin have one of Alice's ploys" edition

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>[OKEANOS]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151105
- Scenario written by higashide and nasu (only drake's lines)
- Medea Lily (4*) is the stage unlock servant
- David (3*) is the stage reward servant

>[Drake gatcha event]
November 5 (Thursday) 19:00 to November 18 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Story gatcha for the new servants and CEs:
- 5*: Francis Drake
- 4*: Anne Bonney & Mary Read
- 3*: Hector, David, Euryale
- 3* Golden Hind, 4* Extra Rin, 5* Hakuno M, 5* Hakuno F CEs
- No need to complete Okeanos to unlock them
- They will not be removed after the event ends, unlike what the news link says

>[100 Days Breakthrough Campaign]
November 6 (Friday) 4:00 to November 13 (Friday) 3:59 JST
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151104c
- 2 free tickets, 2 apples and some other stuff if you login during this period
- Rewarded only once


>[Chaldea Gate Renewal]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151110
November 18 (Wednesday) 16:00 JST
- Mana prisms will be reset every week
- New 40ap version for all the quests
- New quests (see link)
- No more Master Training, but you can farm free quests for that
(Okeanos) 18 AP: 12,000 EXP - 17 AP: 10,000 EXP


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes (11/11)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151111
- Producer's letter (about bans and the November update)
http://pastebin.com/WBUMiZny
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST


>Dropmaps [Now with Okeanos]
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/G669xgbK

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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1st for new Ruler when
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1st for Astolfo!
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>>122178402
Best boy.
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Xth for laser beam guaranteed to blow your mind
Anytime~
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Got Euryale. I know I should expect much of her but any idea on what situations make her good? Her skills doesn't seem to be that bad since her charm and debuff resist are nice.
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>>122178402
So how did he become a ruler, weren't people only summonable as ruler if they didn't have any desires? and correct me if im wrong but didn't the whole events of Apocrypha happen because he had a wish?
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EVIL WITCH
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>>122178626
>*shouldn't

My bad
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Who waiting for /jeannealter/ here?
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>>122178629
Because the Japanese war needed a Japanese saint, and that rule took priority.
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>>122177054
>St. George damage is abysmal but with UMU's craft essence and 2 berserkers behind can tank anything for 3 entire turns

I don't think this guarantees 3 turns of survival. If you have taunt on, you will get hit again after dying when there's still an attack remaining, except in case that dying removes taunt which I think it doesn't though I'm not entirely sure
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what, no, go away, i don't like sluts
hector can stay
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>>122178626
Against males shes okay, otherwise shes just a bit under average
Works as well as she can with arts or crit teams but shes still bit below average.
All of this shouldn't matter through since shes cute
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>>122178626
Euryale is strong against dudes, has a powerful NP that she can charge, higher crit potential than David and Robin and a decent charm.
Shes not bad, but Robin and David are tough competition, Euryale only really beats them in a quick team.
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>>122178626
Equip her with a kaleido and get her bloodsucker (aka her first skill) to level 4 and you have a pretty decent anti-male (basically just servants as most others dont have gender)
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>>122178626
Her second skill increases her NP a bit, so it isn't that bad.
If debuff resistance stacks, she has 50% baseline from her passives (which would be quite good).
She's pretty good for a 3* Archer. The problem is more so that there's David, Robin, Emiya, Atalanta and Gil who all excel in some area or another (or many). Orion is likely flat-out better than her due to 3* stats vs. 5* stats.

>>122178629
Don't know the details but my guess would be that:
-The Einzbern cheated (but instead of Avenger they got a Ruler) and that bypassed some of the "restrictions".
or
-He got a wish during the way when he was summoned as a Ruler but didn't really have one before being summoned (i.e. he didn't know what the grail could do and ended up realizing that he could use it).
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>>122178626
50% debuff resist, 7300 attack are both above average for 3*.
High independent action means she crits decently hard.
With kaleidoscope, she can sometimes lock down a male servant enemy for 2 whole turns.
Her first skill both helps her alot in charging and also is nice for slowing down the enemy np.
Alluring nightingale will rarely hit but it IS nice when it does.
All in all shes above average when compared to other 3* but shes still substandard when compared to the other monstrous archers of 3* (shekel wanting team dodge/charisma and all enemy attack reduction/second highest single target np damage)
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Grail ascension when?
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>>122179225
You do know its basically just going to be a max level increase of 10 right?
I have doubts it will be more than that and maybe a new artwork or skill if DW is particularly kind.
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Singles
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>>122179342
No new skill, it would break the UI. Id say its just 10 levels, maybe an interlude unlock too.
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Will we never get any good lancer aside from Cu since lancers suffers from bad luck? There's Scat in the opening but she's not even available. Why add her in the opening if she's not playable? Is that the curse of a lancer?
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>>122179470
Interlude unlocks for all servants would probably be too much for them to handle as evidenced by them already having issues completing all interludes currently (e.g. Late release of tamamo cat interlude in roma).
According to the fact that there is stat growths for 5* up to level 100, it is safe to say that graila ascension is just 10 more levels.
The real question however is will there be a new artwork and/or sprite
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>>122179342
I'd rage pretty fucking pretty hard if that's what it turned out to be. I'd much rather have a simple ascension to lvl100 than any new content or art.
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>>122179342
>>122179470
It'll just set the max level to 100 regardless of previous max.
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>>122179606
Tamamo Cat's interlude involves Asterios and David so it makes sense that it was released after Okeanos.
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>>122179596
Liz is pretty decent, although Cu can be seen as a better choice (availability and more stand-alone).
Sca is likely to be good, although we don't have enough details about her (also see Brynhildr below).
Enkidu, if he ever gets released, is pretty much guaranteed to be good.
Same goes for Karna.
Brynhildr is likely to be at the very least a 4*. Although I don't see them putting her as a 5* due to Karna and Enkidu taking that place, I doubt they would butcher her gameplay-wise.
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>>122179694
Yfw DW makes it one grail per 10 levels
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>>122179606
Knowing DW I'd say neither of those will happen. We already have the special final ascension art and new sprites is too much work.
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>>122177859
APK Cheat Ban!
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>>122179470
>what are passive skills
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>>122179768
>Brynhildr
>At least 4*
You mean at most 4*, and probably 3*.
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>>122179879
Medusa has 4 passives and only 2 actives. Why
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>>122179887
Don't underestimate the power of selling waifus, anon.
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>>122179776
Well, as long as I can get Andersen to lvl100, that'd be bearable. I'd be a bit salty though about not getting to ascend other non-gold servants though.
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So does Code Casts effect activate automatically?
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>>122179996
I wouldn't know, I burned it.
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>>122179606
Is it only 5 stars with stat geowths up to 100 or do all servants have that? If not than we can probably presume that wherever their stat growth stops is where grail ascension stops.
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Is there a way to change the resolution for bluestacks?
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>>122179996
Yes, as soon as the servant enters the battle.
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>>122179470
Hope that if it's 10 levels, growth is high. Also, additional effects of NP and new art (if possible, new animation of NP)
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>>122180103
Pretty sure it's every Servant.

Where did this 10 levels thing come from? Everyone's assumed it's going to raise the cap to 100 since this game launched.
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>122180264
I presume everyone thinks its 10 levels each time since thats been the basis of all ascension so far.
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>>122180264
here's a list of all the things we know about grail ascensions:
>it requires a grail to do

yeah
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>>122180368
And wishes upon the grail never go well, ever
It'll be a 5 level increase and you'll have to pay money for it
Fucking Avenger
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>>122179225
mah nigga.
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>>122180496
>level 10
Holy shit, how much did you spend on refills to do it?
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>>122180264
>>122180338
>>122180368
Everybody assumed it raises level cap to 100 because that's what was datamined near launch, along with the unlocked levels being linear growth for everybody.

That's all there is to it. The assumptions had basis, but considering how DW has changed many things before actually releasing them it's not much of an indicator and possibly a placeholder
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>>122180496
You can get horseshoe on Okeanos. Also why is Anderson sought after? Is everyone here shotacon?
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>>122180717
Would that be a problem?
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>>122180717
His NP is like a budget Jeanne's minus the invuln.
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>>122180768
It's better than Jeanne's minus the invul. Very easy to get to level 5 NP, heals about the same, but doesn't stun the user and grants defense and attack buffs. Also more spammable. Jeanne's NP is only better for dodging AoE NPs, which admittedly is a pretty big deal
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>>122180717
kono dio da
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>>122180710
>because that's what was datamined near launch
but that's wrong, nothing in the files indicated that. the extension of the growth curves to level 100 is because craft essence levels to 100. it's there so the game doesn't break if it tries to parse the json and there's nothing there.
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>>122180642
Almost nothing. I just do the Friday cavalry when I can and have been pretty lucky with the caster cookies.
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Why is Hassan 2* if he's far better than Jing ke?
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>>122181273
he has no tits
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>>122180818
>heals about the same

Hans heals 3k, Jeanne 2k. Before Medea Lily he was the best healer one could reasonably acquire (Casko's NP might be just slightly more spammable but her heal becomes 3k only at lvl5 and that's for massive whales only).
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>>122180818
That sounds too good for a 2* stars.
Guess I'm going to ascend him.
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Holy shit I love my waifu.
Why is Elizabeth so perfect?
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>>122180496
8 homo babies
8 forbidden pages
12 horseshoes

I wanna do it too but holy shit that price is steep. I wanna ascend my Vlad, George and Blackbeard too. Why is skill ascension so much more expensive than actually ascending your servants?
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>>122181627
cute dragon
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>>122181519
Probably the most often used 2* servant atm. He still has somewhat low stats and isn't much of a straight up fighter due to 2*, but his NP and NP meter gain skill make him a very good defensive support for low cost
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>>122181627
evil dragon
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>>122181627
>no ascension hell
>lvl 5 NP
>only slightly below average 4* stats
>godly skills
Only downside is its the same sprite all the time and final artwork is pretty meh
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>>122181665
>Why is skill ascension so much more expensive than actually ascending your servants?
you want it vice versa?
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>>122178626
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Superior Bathory coming through
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>>122181769
Is 49k supposed to be good or someing?
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>>122181815
BBA btfo
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>>122181708
>>122181715
Best dragon is more like it!

>>122181729
I like her final outfit. It's fucking adorable.
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>>122181834
>3* without Waver buffs

Yeah
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>>122181841
>frills, tumours and swine
>adorable
I keep my Liz in her second costume.
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>>122181815
I want to hug Carmilla!
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>>122181924
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>>122181924
As you should if you truly love her.
A real husbando would keep his waifu away from such stupid fashion.
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>>122181627
cutie beasts team
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so evil
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>>122182067
L I T E R A L L Y Evil
More evil than Gilgamesh
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>>122182067
I still have no idea how Nasu picks his alignments.
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>>122182161
He throws darts at a D&D chart
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>>122182161
She is evil though.
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When are we getting more apples?
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>>122182058
Haters gonna hate.
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>>122182335
apples will drop in renewal daily quests
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>>122182325
>one true wish, one deepest desire, one goal she would use a miracle for is to improve the lives of those who are lost and lonely
>evil
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>>122182335
>not having 30+
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How would she react during her first mana transfer?
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>>122182538
>not using all your apples and having all your main team fully ascended
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>>122182478
Casko is evil too. She will waifu just about anyone. Regardless of dick or health as long as you have good intentions she'll do whatever to make you happy, but
>Evil
Though I get its cause of her legend I wonder if it's a trend he's gonna start.
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>>122182631
Gotta wait for that new daily bruhhhh
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>>122182549
She would react to cock like a starving man meeting food.
She's a sexual deviant who just needs the opportunity.
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>>122182325
Being from greek myth is like an automatic +50 douchebag points.

>>122182549
She has five children, you know.
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>>122182679
How deviant though?
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>>122182668
Casko being evil isn't a meme because she's based on one of the most vile woman to walk the earth.
Atalanta is a legitimate hero, and is portrayed as one.
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>>122182668
Its stated if summoned by a fucked up individual she would be summoned as the Evil Spirit of the Killing Stone possessing 9 Tails and whatnot

Basically Tamamo's hatred towards the humans who abandoned and betrayed her made manifest+ the myth of the fox who tried to assassinate the emperor made manifest
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>>122181752
I wouldn't want ascension to be harder that it is currently but it would make more sense for skill leveling to be easier than servant leveling since the benefit of skill leveling is way lower.
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>>122182719
>Medusa
>Medea
>Hercules
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>>122182776
I know that, but I just wonder if we'll see cute eared waifus as evil in Nasu versw now as a trend like Sabershit.
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your waifu is dancing
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27573995
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>>122182631
>not saving them for farming event CEs
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>>122182824
Why didn't Twice get that? He was a nut.
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>>122181273
Archer attack animations gives more stars I guess
Higher Concealment Presence Passive
Has a DODGE skill which helps in survival
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>>122182770
She would do sick shit like hold hands and say that she loves you
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“I am the Unlucky Bone of my Saber
Steel is my Piece and Gold is my Monument.
I have spent over a Thousand APs,
Unknown to Hearts,
Nor known to Talons.
Have withstood Chaldea to loot many Void Refuses
Yet those Hands will never hold Reverse Scales.
So, as I Sulk--
Unlimited Ascension Farm”

I'll never max ascend UMU and Drake
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>>122182972
I can handle that.
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>>122182991
IN
FIN
I
TY
GEARS
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>>122183030
>get sluts
B-but I already have martha...
Are the pirate sluts any good with an arts team with caster liz and martha?
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>>122182884
>tfw no niconico account
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>>122182915
Because he runs by Kiritsugu logic so he is 'Good' but extremist. Also Tamamo made a deal with Moon Cell to manifest as that way. In Chaldea? Evil Tamamo might be a possibility.

First 5 BEAST Servant? Tamamo no Mae?
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>>122183138
Why the fuck not, faggot?
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>>122183135
Woops wasn't meant to quote
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I want to rub her secret scale~
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>>122183135
>>122183257
Sluts are made for a Quick team, sorry bud.
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>>122183241
I used to have one. Just haven't bothered making a new one in a long time. I'll do it later I guess. This gives me a reason to make one.
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Well got 6 today no refills but one level.
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>>122183312
Guess I'll have to make a quick team on top of my arts and buster team ;_;
My life is unlimited grind works
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>>122183236
Twice isnt Kerry. Kerry is kill 2 to save 3 because muh math, Twice is attack 10 and kill the 9 weakest to improve the average human.
There's a whole climactic boss fight that's just 'Twice is evil even if he says he isn't'.
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Before go from this hell, I just want to remind you fags that using cheat apk could get you banned.
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>>122183476
Blame Nasu for fuking saying that if summoned by an Evil Person its 9 Tailed Evil Tamamo that comes out even when its shown Twice and Hakuno got the same Tamamo and they are very different
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>>122183562
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>>122183685
Twice did literally nothing wrong.
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>>122183685
>Twice
>evil person
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>>122183998
He lost therefore was wrong
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>>122183998
He caused hundreds of deaths in Extra senpai desu baka
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>>122183562
Lmao cheat apk got banned before Refunders.
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>>122183998
Yes he did.
Bet your a Gilfag cull the weak and duck everyone's wife muh superior sperm for the good of the race shitheads too aren't you? Gil is just as fucked in the head as far as I'm concerned.
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>>122182668
I want bury my pocket between her oppai...
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>>122178707
Someday I will have my Dragon Witch EX for Alter.
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>>122184159
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>>122184159
Shirou pls
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>122166579

>I draw Enkidu as much as ccreayus draws C.C and it's been like this for 5 years now.

Link to your art, anon?
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>>122184197
I want to pound her from behind while nibbling in her ears groping her breasts and rubbing her clit while while pressing against her soft first rate tail. Then tell her how much I love her and appreciate all she does for my useless self and kiss her and fall asleep in each other's embrace.
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>>122178817
>in case that dying removes taunt which I think it doesn't though I'm not entirely sure
I put the Nightless Rose CE on George during one of the gorilla events, and I can confirm taunt persists after death.
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>>122178310
Robin Hood a cute!
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>>122184197
>pocket
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>>122184248
>>122184320
There's nothing good about what he does. If he raped my waifu his bastard baby is getting an EX. His kingdom was keks like mudslimes are.
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You are a beautiful existence!

Please, marry me!
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>>122182843
Medusa killed people, enjoyed it and drank their blood for shits and giggles.
Medea killed children.
If I recall correctly, Hercules killed his own wife and had a lot of fuck-ups throughout his life.
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>>122183685
Nasu is literally retarded so why do you expect anything in this shitty franchise to make any kind of sense?
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>>122184624
Only thing that makes sense is unrivaled
;^)
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>>122184614
>Hercules killed his own wife
That was Hera's fault.
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>>122184614
Medusa and Medea are dindus who were pushed into it by Stheno/Euryale/Jason.
Hercules redeemed himself through godlike valour and service.
And besides, I was saying they aren't douches.
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>tfw if chosen by Casko I'd just use all my spells and make her incarnated and forget the war for a comfy waifu life.

Why would anyone want the Grail over her and the blessing of happiness she brings?
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Correct tier list foe berserkers:
tier/top tier/good/average/below average/lily tier

kintoki/herc, lance (with kaleido and full team support), vlad (np chaining buuster team or mixed buster team)/tamamo cat, lance, vlad (normal buster team)/lu bu, kiyohime (with kaleido), darius, eric (with kaleido), kiyohime, eric/asterios, spartacus/caligula (hes in his own tier of shittiness below that of even lily tier)
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>>122183562
I'm using 10x damage with 100% NP and I'm still okay. You probably abused it to the max with like 500x damage and 500% NP.
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>>122184797
You can't use the spells for that.
But you can seek out the Grail and ask that of it.

Does she have a wish? I know Nero and Aacha don't really give a shit about the Grail.
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>>122184797
>bond with Casko through the grail war
>win and have my wish be a life with Casko in marriage
No command seal brainwashing needed.
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>>122184901
Tfw no-one can arguue against the objective truth
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>>122185024
Tfw no-one can be fucked reading that awfully structured wall of text
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>>122184942
Brainwashing?
I suppose you could fight the Grail War and wish for a life. Either way it works. The Grail War is pointless to her and if I summoned her she'd be better than any wish I could think of and would make me work harder than some Grail War I'm not interested in.
Also we'd obviously bond and do a little Grail Warring, but probably drop it before it ends and go be husband and wife.
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>>122184934
I thought Nasu added that to the rules recently?
Oh well its Nasuland are you seriously questioning whether or not one could either way through some bullshit or another?
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>tfw
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>>122185137
Nigga if you drop it partway through she won't love you.
She might still act cute but thats all it will be, an act.
If you want Casko you have to show drive, determination, courage, spirit
Not quit because eh, who needs a grail anyway.
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>>122185254

Roll a single. Do it faggot.
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>>122185254
iktfb
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>got drunk as fuck yesterday with my friends
>wake up a couple of minutes ago
>see this

>andersen was ascended twice, everybody else once (hassan was already ascended before, but he was done on a sober mind)
>500ATK worth of Fou fed to Darius (I was saving that up for Ozzy)
Fuck it, I already wasted a fuckton of pieces, and pages in Andersen's case, I'll level these fucks to the end and clear content with them
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>>122185297
No.
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>>122185394
cool! subscribed
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>>122185276
I didn't say quitting. There's other things you can do besides the Grail War to prove your love. She doesn't care about the Grail anyway. It's optional to her.
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>>122185548
>trying this hard to fit in
shaking my head to be honest
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>>122185706
>he thinks he can incarcerate a servant without the grail
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>>122185706
The grail itself is optional, the will and character to obtain it isn't.
If you can't get her to love you in a fight for survival where trust and bonds are required between the pairs for victory, how are you going to do it normally?
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>>122184383
Yea, so if you die with one attack remaining, you are certain to get hit again and die for real, so you can only 100% guarantee a tanking of two attacks. Instead of Nightless Rose, Sea of Reed would give more guarantee of survival.

On the first turn the CE grants evade and on the second turn you use master evade, thus, guaranteeing survival until the third turn on which you are guaranteed to tank two attacks.

It occurs to me that I don't know if taunt is a buff or debuff. When it's used the sound and visual effects make it seem that it's classed as a debuff. Does Rule Breaker remove taunt? Do debuff removal skills/NPs of allies remove taunt? Does debuff resistance reduce chance of applying taunt?

Oh and now that I'm thinking about debuffs, can demerits of skills/NPs be removed? The ones like homo Gilles NP, Innocent Monster, Caesar's crit damage skill.

I have a Marie but no David, haven't finished Okeanos yet. Gotta go test this shit out.
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Diarmuid!

The blue dog is also cute.
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>>122185861
You should be able to do it. UBW Good End proves that 2 persons are enough to keep a servant alive without a grail and making a body for them is probably a small task. It's not the easiest thing in the world but it's not hard either.
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>>122185875
And like I said you don't need to go and win the Grail War to show such things. There's plenty of other things to do. And you don't need to be in a war state 24/7 to fall in love.
And it's not like I'd just quit the war regardless of her opinion. If she was enjoying it and we weren't completely fucked or anything sure why not try and finish I guess, but to think fighting is the only way for such things to happen is dumb. That might as well be saying once it's over she'll get bored of you.

>>122185861
I swear I thought there was something like that now in the series. I must be mistaken.
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More than 10 apples wasted and i still couldn't get this last talon.

I'm sorry Atilla-chan, i failed you.
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>>122182910
Why does Mashu always get bullied so hard in comics?
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>>122186198
Thats exactly what im saying.
Tamamo, and most Servants by extension, are exceptional people and will not work with those they don't respect.
You cant just woo Tamamo with gifts and sweet nothings, you need concrete examples of character and a bond developed through adversity.
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Oh are we being autists? I want to participate!

I have a three 'route' 'story' between me and Diarmuid that I'll never write that styles three unique romances between me and him in the same way the original fsn does. First route is goody goody ROMANTIKU crap, second route is 'realistic', last route is pathetic melodrama involving alter diarmuid and also he kills me. How autistic does this make me?It's just for fun, i swear.
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>>122186303
I still can't get 2 for my Liz's third.
Having a waifu is suffering.
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>>122184769
>Hercules redeemed himself through godlike valour and service.
It wasn't even his fault in the first place and he still went and did those labors like a champ.

Heracles is truly the most bro Greek Servant.
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tfw no more gold servants to max rank
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>>122186192
>unironically citing UBW Good
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>>122186405
>doesn't follow the FSN three route set up
Not autistic enough.
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>>122186503
The literally nothing wrong with the Good End, it's the True End that's pants-on-head retarded with Saber fucking off for no reason .
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>>122183562
Are these bans 4real 4chan?
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>>122186578
>no reason
>not being connected to the grail is no reason
>berserker tier mana costs that can kill Rin is no reason
UBW True is the actual ending, UBW Good is the fanservice lorebending ending.
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>>122186385
And you can earn respect by just being a good decent honest person. Have some faith dude. Just show her you care. If it means the Grail so be it, but it's certainly not the only way. Get a career work to the top for her, learn a talent you never knew you had whatever. Even if you fail if you still keep trying hard enough even that might work possibly. In my opinion it's the heart you put in, not the accomplisment. Do you think she'd hate or resent Hakuno if they had lost mid way through or something?
I'm pretty sure she actually hates the Grail on account of CCC from what she seems to say about it in GO anyway.
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>>122186742
Is this how 3dpd works
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>>122186859
I don't know?
It's just how I feel I guess.
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>>122186742
She wouldnt hate Hakuno and if Hakuno tried her hardest wouldnt lose respect for her but would she love her? No.
Tamamo isn't your high school sweetheart, she's a divine imperial concubine who fights armies and curses generations.
Becoming a manager and learning the flute isn't going to cut it.
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>>122186079
I don't remember if my George got hit with Rule Breaker or not. I do remember someone saying that taunt (I think from Leonidas) didn't work against Shadow Hercules in Fuyuki. I'm afraid I don't know what the specific reason for that is.

I see that the taunt skill, when upgraded, has increasing percentages for success, but I don't know if this means the taunt can "miss" the servant casting it or just the enemy.

I can test the debuff theory with Martha's debuff removal skill in a moment, but this is probably not conclusive either way.
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>>122185394
You are the kind of person who makes legitimate claims for refund, aren't you? Though I think google won't accept irresponsible behaviour on the customer's side as a reason. I wonder if you have to have legit brain problems to really deserve refunds by the rules if you buy shit yourself.

I got it! Say you're a recovering alcoholic with brain damage from past drinking and playing F/GO is the only thing that keeps you from relapsing but you keep buying quartz without intending to because of your brain/liver.

Disorders linked with alcohol related brain impairment:
>Frontal lobe dysfunction -- results in cognitive (thought) difficulties.
>Hepatic encephalopathy -- confusion and hallucinations.

Kek.
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>>122186730
UBW True is forced drama just because Nasu wanted an ending were Saber isn't around. UBW Good is canon whether you like it or not.
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>>122186938
>Referring hakuno as female
Guess we all got our own take
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>>122186575
But it does follow the three route setup, that's the whole point, it even mirrors the dramatic progression.

First route involves focuses mostly on me and Diarmuid falling in *~love~*. End result is wishing on the grail for him to stay. Grail isn't corrupted.
Route 2 is essentially the same, except realizing we can never be together because I'm a human and he's a reincarnated magical spirit from the past. Undecided on weather the grail is corrupted or not, but it might be a good kick in the gut if we decide FUCK IT LET'S MAKE IT WORK and then sludge pours out and we';re all 'fuck i guess it was never meant to be'.
third route is me and diarmuid wish on the grail and it's corrupted and he gets altered and i have to try to "get him back" but he's like "shut up you';re annoying" after i track him down and he KILLS ME and the shock of him killing me UNALTERS him and he holds my body and cries bloody tears before fading away
this is what i do on my work breaks
I cant believe I'm telling this to multiple living human beings on an anonymous image board

All the routes hinge on Diarmuid being summoned about a month early (hey Illya did it) bc that's the majority of the time we spend together getting to know each other. and stuff.
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>>122186938
She fell in love with Hakuno before he won it.
Put her on a pedestal, God or not, you won't reach anyone if you do that.
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>>122186979
seeing so many picture the two of them, i'm starting to think that they are actually siblings
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>>122187079
He also wasn't actively trying to win it. All he was doing was trying to survive.
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>>122186943
>I do remember someone saying that taunt (I think from Leonidas) didn't work against Shadow Hercules in Fuyuki. I'm afraid I don't know what the specific reason for that is.

I think this is probably from before the patch that fixed enemies always hitting the leader with single target NPs which included generic NPs too. Taunt couldn't override that bug.
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>>122187070
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>>122187070
So when will he be in fgo
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>>122187179
And? Isn't that all life is?
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>tfw its almost past the third of game's year long plot
>Not all promo servants are in yet
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>>122187235
neverbuary obviously

>>122187212
I did say it was all for fun you know.
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>>122186943
I just did a quick battle, and Martha's debuff removal skill didn't remove George's taunt.

On a side note, I remember Lu Bu being able to resist Waver's attack buff skill whenever he activated Restless Soul beforehand.
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Snek
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>>122187041
>summoning a Servant uses an insane amount of mama, to the point where no one does it despite the benefits
>the grail takes the vast majority of that, allowing masters to keep Servants around
>even then, Berserkers or Servants who are A class can kill masters through mana usage
>Saber is not only an A class Servant, but a monster even in that category who has huge mana usage, whose stats are so high because shes always boosting with mana
>But Rin can take the entire weight with no issues at all
There is a reason one of the endings literally has the word True in it. You know what True means right?
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>>122187313
Yeah, Lu Bu can resist attack buffs if you activate his 2nd skill.

Guess it's sort of in-character of him.
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>>122187070
Holy shit, this is the most autistic shit I've read.
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>>122187313
Yea. Lu Bu's defense skill makes him pretty much immune to attack buffs afterward. He even dodges master buff.
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>>122187287
I can only imagine you squirming in your seat as you wrote that
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>>122187476
I'm sick so my judgement is impaired

>>122187467
>Oh are we being autists? I want to participate!
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>>122187392
What kind of snake trips on a banana peel
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>>122187392

Hips for Hips Day.
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>>122187423
Nasuverse don't care about that "True" bullshit. Everything is simply canon.
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>>122187070
What the fuck
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>>122187595
The bait keeps going
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>>122187070
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>>122187789
>The truth makes me uncomfortable
>Oh I know, let's call it bait!
Stop being such a faggot.
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>30 20ap runs
>Not a single gold chest drop from the chimera
I want out of this hell
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>>122187070
That isnt FSNs set up. Fate is the question arc, where the ideal of being a hero is introduced, the question of what is a hero of justice and is it possible to be one and the ending is Shirou hasnt answered that question but will follow what he knows.
UBW answers the question with Archer, and reveals the flaws in being a hero. Shirou accepts that he cannot become the ideal hero but believes the struggle still has merit.
HF is the practical application of a hero and adds realism to the equation (relative realism at least) and has Shirou discover that being a hero means isolating yourself, harming yourself and others and abandoning your loved ones for gain that will not come to you or the people you care about, and abandons it entirely. HF isnt grim for the sake of edginess or melodrama, its Nasu concluding his argument that being a hero is not a goal people should strive for.
Your setup only has two parts out of three, you need a less superficial theme.
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>>122187595
>everything is canon
>he thinks that's real and not a method of milking fanboy wallets
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>>122188149
Well I did say it was just something silly to think about, I wasn't planning on going anywhere with it. Honestly I'd only come up with events that would be cool without the actual plot to make them happen.
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>>122188149
What's Prisma's underlying answer, then?
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>>122188295
>a method of milking fanboy wallets
Just like everything else that's in Fate. This franchise has been a shitty cash grab from day 1.
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>>122188515
Little girls make everything better
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>>122188149
>HF isnt grim for the sake of edginess or melodrama
That's exactly what it is.
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>>122184159
that's how secondaries roll after all
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>>122186979
Why does Fem Hakuno have gorgon eyes
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>>122187070
I hope you get banned.
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>>122188486
You arent autistic enough then. You should have come up with q theme that had ties with the idea of homolust between a neckbeard and an Irish fuckboy and based your story around that.
For example, the impossibility of a true connection and love between those of unequal station, say magic deceased servant and normal magus, and gone from there.
Fate is introduction of a fairy tale prince romance, UBW is both of you realising its impossible and deciding that attempting to overcoming it is worth it anyway, and HF is discovering that the differences are irreconcilable and that the only way you will both truly be happy is with others who really do understand and connect with you.
Now go, create a VN that will top the ranks at EGS
>>122188515
Nothing, since its not part of FSN
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>>122188878
Because she makes me rock hard.
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>>122188941
>since its not part of FSN
It's the official Illya Route.
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>>122188909
Report me then, that's within your rights as a 4chin user you know. Don't just wish for stuff, make it happen.

>>122188941
Yessir! I will refine my autism to it's fullest extent!!
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>>122189042
smugloli.jpg
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>>122188878
It's Medusa disguised as Hakunon in her attempt to drink Kishinami's blood.
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>>122187313
I just tested Marie's NP with Andersen and it did remove the defense debuff from Innocent Monster. Gonna test Gilles next.
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>>122189252
Will Gilles finally be viable?
Spoiler alert: He won't
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>>122189532
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UNRIVALED third active skill when?
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Why is not Shiki so sad?
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>>122189785
No normal boy to bone her
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2nd best Indian Never
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>>122189785
Because her art is fucking awful. I'd be depressed too.
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>>122189785
She's sick of people saying she's Shiki.
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>>122189960
Enjoy your sickness
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>>122189785
>tfw no third active
>tfw reverse S curve
>tfw Hassan still generates more crit stars
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>>122190129
Hassan is a gift from god though, I'm pretty sure he'll stay the best assassin for a long time
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>>122187313
>>122189532

It works with Gilles. At this point I can assume it works with Lu Bu's attack buff resistance too but I'll test that too later today.
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Who /regret/ here?
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>>122190203
What's so special about Hassan?
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What the fuck is Jeanne doing in this picture.
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>>122190270
Can't he instakill?
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>>122190203
I see him getting usurped by Jack and possibly Jekyll, but he'll still be best boy in my book. I also think Hundred Hassan generating more crit stars as their main gimmick.
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>>122190203
>best Assassin
>male
Pick one
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>>122190331
But Koujiro exists!
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>>122190270
>NP has high instakill rate and is easy to max out due to being a 2*
>Quick card hits 3 times so it's easy for him to generate crit stars
>has Protection from Arrows
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>>122190238
It's not even that great of a CE.
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>>122190285
Ruler's class ability is to come with Command Spells.
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