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epic trollage Edition

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>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that cum that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: 6028 LLMK (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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first for FUN
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>mfw I beat Large Lucifer as the Lost
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Binding of Isaac Afterbirth?

More like

Binding of Isaac AfterNERF

HAH
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if you need a lost seed here you go

W2K9 EGKS

this is literally all you need, it's good for judas, maggy and isaac
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>>121867543
the best part is, after every wave of enemies, Ultra Greed takes extra damage once you start hitting him again
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>mfw I get to Massive Mephistopheles without speed ups
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So now that everyone has pretty much finished all the content of the pre-release patch, what are you hoping will be added when afterbirth releases?
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this isn't a funny joke
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>>121867896
>mfw I figth Absurd Asmodeus with the chaos card
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>>121867548
>>121867843
>>121868038
I don't understand this meme
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why is challenge 24 still locked
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>>121867934
slow the fuck down you autist, you don't want to burn your tongue on the steak do you?
>>121868186
you too, shithead
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>mfw I find Dad's key right in front of the door to Tremendous Tempter
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>>121868114
It's isaac's personal version of Biggie Smalls.
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>fight Bulky Belphegor as the unfound
>get hit as he's about to die
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>curse of the unknown before fighting Super-Sized Sinner
>its the Dead Cat and my red hearts drop to one
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>pick up Dr. Fetus
>pick up Butt Bombs

>second floor boss is Dangle

>BUTT BOMBS HEAL DANGLE
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>fighting Large Lucifer as The Missing
>somehow die to Big Blue Trollface Man when he gets summoned
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>>121868845
Eat that steak slowly. CHOKE ON IT.
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Do you think Bigger Belial knocks up Lilith and that's how Cambion Conception works?
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EDMUUNNNND!
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>>121869051
This kind of shit was already in Rebirth.
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>hush
>mega satan

look mom i can make bad touhous
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>mfw winning against the Wumbo Wicked-One as The Misplaced
>die to a red poop left by a champion boss
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>>121869117
I actually like The Hush fight. The health scaling's too high right now, but I love the dodging.
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>>121868987
She was probably already pregnant from the get-go. Amazing Abaddon had nothing to do with it.
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getting real sick of the steak meme, can't we think of more interesting ways to complain?
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>>121868987
So this is where the preggers Lilith meme comes from. I haven't gotten Afterbirth yet and didn't get why people kept saying she was pregnant
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>>121868987
A cambion is a cross between a human and an incubus/succubus
Assuming that Lilith is at least 1/5 human, she fucks her Incubus and that's how it works
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>>121869261
be glad that the Inmense Incubus fight doesn't have the health scaling yet
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>>121869130
>The Misplaced
Won't lie. I had a hearty chuckle.
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>>121867543
is that the new ludo knife?
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>>121869419
>she not only shits out babies, but also /ss/'s them
Does Lilith's perversion know no bounds?
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>>121869380
Yeah, Cambion Conception knocks up your character and Lilith starts with it when you unlock it. I'm banking on false hopes Maggy starts with Immaculate someday

>>121869419
T-too lewd...
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oh shit
time to have fun
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>>121869498
>Inmense Incubus
and what's with this meme, how did it start?
Did it literally start today as I don't think I've seen it before
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>>121869967

NO

STOP HAVING FUN
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>>121869689
it's ludo knife with 20/20 triple shot and quad shot
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>>121869967
>fetus
lol
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>>121870021
THERE'S NO STOPPING THE FUN TRAIN
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>>121870131

STOP IT RIGHT NOW OR

OR
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>start Azazel Run
>get PHD
>get Nigger Bum
>Balls of steel pills everywhere
>soul hearts laying on the ground that I can't fucking take because I'm full up
>get pope's hat
>more Soul hearts
>
>
>tfw skipped the first devil room and now it's only angel rooms
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>only time it's worth beating hush is if you're playing Samson, Eden or Lilith

bravo edmund
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>>121870131
NOT ONLY THAT BUT MY POLYFETUS BOMBS EXPLODE INTO REGULAR BOMBS
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>>121870003
I dunno man, Enormous Evil-One has been in the game since Rebirth came out
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>>121870436
I get the feeling this is just 1 or 2 epic memesters having a giggle at their own hilarity
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>>121870350
what dude are you telling me you dont like useless on-hit items
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I just ran into the weirdest bug. I was fighting Lokii and killed all but one, then Loki spawned and all the sudden Lokii respawned infinitely until the screen was full of him.

I tried to screenshot but didn't quite catch it. Killed me right quick from contact damage.

Anyone else run into this? I was in greed mode.
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Number 2 is a fucking awful item
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GUYS
HOW SHOULD I FURTHER ENHANCE MY FUN
I LEGITIMATELY DON'T KNOW
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>>121870632
I haven't personally, but apparently it is a thing, you aren't alone.
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>>121870632
Well, seems I'm not the only one to experience it. This isn't my screenshot but mine looked about the same. Crazy.
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>>121870798

by blowing up that tinted rock
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>>121870798
CHOCOLATE MILK.
GO ALL IN FAGGOT.
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>>121870350
See, that's one of my biggest gripes with Isaac. There are a bunch of bad or worthless items you have to "unlock" and it just makes no sense, unless you're a completionist or like the challenge you have no incentive on to unlock it.
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>>121870798
Tech X will tear through the enemies the Hush spawns faster, and gives you bigger shots so it'll be more likely to hit him.
I say go with Tech X.
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>>121870897
GOOD FUCKING IDEA
LET'S DO THIS YOU BLUE FUCKHEAD

>>121870952
2BAD
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>>121870350
>not beating it as the Lost to get an item reskin
you're not playing the game right
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Do you guys think they split this expansion in half and are going to release the other half next year as another xp pack?

its the only logical conclusion i can come to on why this is so fucking lacking
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[fun intensifies]
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>Temperance spawns a Heart Begger in Greed Mode

fml. I can't seem to get 2 of Diamonds to spawn along with Blank Card either. Card just fine. But the Diamonds evade me.
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>>121871609
seed?
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Please somebody stop me before I go full autism and reskin the game into something completely different for my own personal enjoyment
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>>121871609
>7 not-fun items + Holy Light
Congratulations.
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>>121871943
Do it.

And make sure it's jojos bizzare adventure themed
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>Decide to try Onan's Streak for the 30th time
>Seraphim first treasure room

There's no way I can mess this up, right?
r-right?
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>>121871943
The question is, anon, do you have the spriting skills?
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these corners look ugly as hell
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>>121872121
That'd be neat but much of the incredible autism would come from the fact that it'd probably be original

>>121872269
Absolutely not, but y'know what they say about practice
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>>121872308
how would you fix them, though?
Serious question
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>>121872464
Make them not look like shit, simple
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>>121872586
yes, but how? it's a really awkward angle due to the perspective used in the game
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>>121872464
for one not introduce diagonal lines in a pattern thats mostly vertical
two learn how to draw a fucking corner
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>>121872682
I don't really see how you can fit the corner in there that matches with those walls, could you draw something that'd work? As I'm fairly sure it's impossible to achieve unless you replace the corner square with a pillar or something
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>>121870350
fates reward is pretty good
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>>121872838
no i do not care enough about this conversation to draw something
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>>121872403
Have you even tried before then? Spriting is hard work.
Also, here's the front sprite of the Gaster Blaster mod I was thinking of doing.
Came out WAY better than I was expecting.
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>>121872935
Upload this now
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>>121872881
well I stand by what I said since I can't at all see how anyone could fix the corner, it's a problem with the top-down perspective the game uses
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>>121873015
I need to do the other sides and firing sprites, anon.
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>>121872935
Woah, fuck. I'm working on an Undertale mod for Isaac. I'd love to work with you, man.
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>>121872935
damn anon, that's pretty good
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>>121873021
Remove all corners from the game, done.
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>be azazel
>get proptosis
>does nothing
EDMUUNNND
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>>121872935
Yeah I know it ain't easy

Naturally I'd give it some practice, but again my autism would keep me from exposing it to the internet
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>>121872935
9/10 would fit the game seamlessly, just not sure what's going on with its jawline
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>Unironically liking Undertale
gb2tumblr
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>>121873268

>unironically liking binding of isaac

how EDGY can you get
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>>121873268
>Unironically being the fun police
gb2/v/
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>>121873268
wrong thread?
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>>121873338
>Implying I play for the story or theme.
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>>121873413

>a child cries blood tears that he gained from a deal with Satan on his overweight mom to kill him then crawls inside her womb and destroys her heart then kills himself in a church

Isaac is edgy m8
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well that was fun
seed is YVZF X7PX if anyone wants to have fun as well
don't open the chests first thing though, second secret room is a rune room
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>>121873520
I never said it wasn't, i'm saying I don't play it because of how it looks or the story or whatever. I didn't even know what the story was outside of the intro and kept playing because it's addicting and fun
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>>121873650

>fun

QUICK CALL EDMUND THERE'S NERFING TO BE DONE
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>>121873520
And?
He literally just said that he doesn't play the game for it's themes, but for the core gameplay.

In fact I don't think there's anyone here who plays Isaac for that.
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>>121873596
forgot pic
crickets body is OP with dr fetus
so glad it got buffed again
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>>121873750

I have no conversational awareness.
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This is the worst fucking curse. I have two full charges of the D6, there's options and I can be sure I'll end up picking pageant boy or box of stuff
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>>121873131
I just sprite on a whim anon, don't think I could do a whole project.
The hard part about this Gaster Blaster is going to be doing the Side and Firing Sprites. I can't pull the jaw down because I'm already at the maximum size Shoop Da Whoop can take, and there's no official artwork of the Gaster Blasters from the side.
Have a simplistic Determination item sprite I've done earlier.
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What do I even start with Lilith? 4 room charge on the box makes me very hesitant to use it, especially since it is only for one room. 2 Room charge felt great when I first got her and did Greed Mode.
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>>121874013
Pick ONE curse that you would have for the entire run
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>>121874115
XL
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>>121874115
labyrinth

ez
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>>121873131
I've made an Undertale music mod for Rebirth and am in the process of updating it for Afterbirth. I could maybe work with you.
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>>121874115
I like XL floors and the one that teleports you randomly is just annoying
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>>121874115
curse of darkness
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>>121874186
nice with your powers combined you can make the most autistic mod ever
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>>121874115
Darkness
>Crank up Gamma
>Two items remove it anyway
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>permanent curse easter eggs
>the only one that locks you out of unlocking items is permanent curse of the labyrinth

ed why
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Does Book of Belial just increase odds of getting a Devil Room or is it still the same chance for Angel Rooms?

>>121874115
Labyrinth.
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>>121874295
>Most autistic
>Not sonic
>Not mlp
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>>121874324
Three if you count runes as items.
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>>121874342
Because that would be fun, we can't have that
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>>121874013
>>121874115
from most tolerable to most bullshit:

>Labyrinth/XL
>Darkness
>Lost
>Maze
>Blind
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>>121874486
>Implying I can find runes

>>121874553
Stick Unknown beneath Lost
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>placebo
>48 hour energy
>d6

this gon be gud
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>>121874553
>>121874625
>Unknown beneath Lost
how did I forget about that curse

>Labyrinth/XL
>Darkness
>Lost
>Unknown
>Maze
>Blind
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Infanticide or My Innermost Apocalypse?

Hericide or Enmity of the Dark Lord?
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>>121874915

MIA
EotDL
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>>121874056
I was thinking more-so as using the Gaster Blaster for Brimstone. Would that not work either?

Also, it's so annoying how the item sprites in the game interact with character sprites. Fucks up EVERYTHING.
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>>121874831
Maze is a minor annoyance and not knowing where you're going is far worse than not having your health displayed. You should always know your health total anyway.
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does nightlite stack with stopwach
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>>121874915
>Latter
>Former
Respectively, of course
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>>121874186
I actually already did that. Replacing Rebirth music is honestly really easy. If you can sprite at all though, that'd be helpful.
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>>121875036
I don't know, anon as with curse of the lost you can map out where to go yourself, although sucks hard if you had already picked up the compass. Personally I find it easier to keep track of where I'm going in curse of the lost than how much health I'm currently at with curse of the unknown
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>>121875146
There are no bad 2-heart deals.
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>>121875276
Well, that's unfortunate, especially considering I'm devoid of artistic talent. Guess I'm of no use to you, then.
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>>121874915
The only good Rebirth tracks are Cellar, the Chest, Cathedral and Mom.
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>>121875335

it was the nail

and it was rerolled into judas' shadow
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>>121875146
First. If Dead Cat, also the second.
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>>121875387
Bretty good, because your HP was low anyway you shoulda taken the other deal to kill yourself immediately to come back with double damage.
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>>121875387
>rerolling the nail
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>>121875462

the other one was rerolled into spirit of the night

overall i think i came out of it pretty well

>>121875487

i never was a fan of the nail. don't know why when it's just a better book of revelations.
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>>121874973
Brimstone could work, it's a LOT bigger.
Doesn't fix my side-sprite problem though, still figuring out how the hell I'll make it work.
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>reroll machine in treasure room
>hit it absentmindedly because I have 99 coins and I keep getting shit
>accidentally reroll the wafer
of course it had to go away in 1 coin when the fucking TNT before it took 5
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>>121875610
What's the problem with the side sprite? Can't make it fit? Can't do it without making it look weird?
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I finally did it boys all of the afterbirth challenges completed.

Just beat Brains! a few minutes ago. What a fucking cunt. I was carried hard by the sacrificial dagger + polaroid. Basically got hit once and cleared the entire room.

Also whoever said dark bum was nerfed he definitely was not that little nigga carried me with one million soul hearts.

Also
>chaos card on isaac
>emperor on blue baby

if I lost that shit I deserved to die IRL.

fuck it though fuck edmund.
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>>121875765
As I said earlier, there's no reference of the side to go off of. I'll try my best but it won't come out as good as the front sprite.
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>>121875989
Dark Bum has been nerfed maybe five times since rebirth released. The fact that he's still that good shows you just how little they playtest the game, because there is absolutely no way that original dark bum should have been allowed.
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Well
It's good to know that bosses can spawn in these rooms now
I got fucking Ragman
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>>121874831
more like

>Darkness
>Lost
>Maze
>Labyrinth/XL
>Unknown
>Blind
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>>121874115
>go to seeds
>DARK NESS
>forces curse of darkness for the entire run
>doesn't disable trophies
>never have to deal with bullshit like the curse of the blind or unknown ever again
Fuck you, macaroni
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GOD, FUCK THE LOST

EVERY FUCKING TIME I GET HOLY MANTLE OR 9 LIVES I GET NO DAMAGE
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>>121876406
Slow down partner. You gotta savor every bite of that steak

yes the lost is complete bullshit, this is why I don't even remotely feel bad when I save scum his achievements, getting mantle/dead cat + god tier damage items in itself is a fucking achievement never mind losing a run like that to some stray bullshit that this game can throw at you.
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>>121876312
how the hell is labyrinth worse than lost and maze?
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>>121876276

This can't be real.
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>>121876667
missing out on devil deals mostly. lost isn't bad if you're okay at memorizing maps. Maze is pretty shitty when it triggers a bunch of times in a row but that doesn't happen all that frequently I find.
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>truly cursed challenge
>every floor uses every single one of the curses
How would you react?
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>>121876805
yeah but if you want boss rush/hush curse of the labyrinth is generally good to me and quicker than doing the floors separately - maze/lost can seriously waste time
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>>121874915
I honestly don't care enough to have a preference for either soundtrack

But Mourner Unto Sheol is my favorite Indie song
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>>121876923
eh. It's honestly significantly less bullshit than most of the current challenges. I wouldn't even mind killing all the way up to the lamb with that.
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I'm not sure what it is but there's something that makes my hourlgass use item never run out of battery so I'm having an "Edge of Tomorrow" run right now
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>>121876923
pretty sure having maze+lost+labyrinth on womb or higher together could get yourself stuck in a loop for a while
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>>121877083
Is that shit even particularly useful for anything other than if you take a ton of damage in a room or something?
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>>121876923
>start with chaos and the D6
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>never do the lamb because the free items in the chest are just way more fun

not sure why they went with shit cursed chests in the dark room but whatever
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>>121877182
it's basically an undo button for if you mess up in a room, handy if you are experimenting with items to try and get a particular combo, or messing with chance with a blood bank or something
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>>121877036
Anon, Soy Milk.
Bob's Brain.
Tiny Planet.
Strange Attractor.
Marked.
So many fucking items that could kill your run. Not to mention Devil Deals are always a gamble.

>>121877174
That's the point, anon.

I also forgot to mention, Black Candle does nothing in this mode.
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thanks edmund for this epic reroll

should've just kept my fucking explosivo for fucks sake
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>>121877353
ZA WARUDO
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>>121877353
WAKKA WAKKA MOTHAFOKKA
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>>121877192
how is the D6 useful with permanent curse of the blind?

would make more sense to start with the D4
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wow Edmung fucking fantastic game youve got here

i had the stopwatch for fucks sake
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>>121877341
>So many fucking items that could kill your run. Not to mention Devil Deals are always a gamble

honestly there aren't that many run killers. Compare that to how many of the challenges pretty much require you to get a god-item or are basically impossible. That's way more frustrating and bullshit than the 1/500 chance you might get soy milk which depending on your other items might not even be that bad.

it would be an annoying challenge sure, but a lot more fair than Speed! or beans or brains or some of the other ones.
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>>121877182
If I ever take damage in a room I use it and restart the room until I don't take damage.
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>>121877353
Oh hey it's the waka waka challenge
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>>121877286
I like going to Dark Room on most of my runs because I think it and Sheol are more fun than the Cathedral and Chest, which feel too easy.
There's like two rooms in the Dark Room that are truley bullshit, and the Lamb is way more fun to fight than a weaker version of the Isaac fight
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>>121877341
>So many fucking items that could kill your run.
easy, just make D4 a starting item

or you play as the lost in the challenge
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>>121877789
lost might actually be a worthwhile hi risk hi reward character once he starts w/ holy mantle

if it doesnt get rerolled by the d4 that is
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>>121877182
Lets you try a room again for no/less damage as others have said and in the later floors it can get your ass out of tight situations to try another path

Easily one of my most favorite items in Afterbirth

>>121877286
>Expecting anything good to come out of Nicalis
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>start run
>find dice room
>it's the five dice
>use it to reroll floor after grabbing boss item and treasure room item
>find another dice room after rerolling floor
>it's the five dice again
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>>121877924
>once he starts w/ holy mantle
oh is that actually a thing?

I still haven't bothered unlocking the lost due to how trash the character is that I didn't see the point in trying him out, but if they actually give him holy mantle I'll play as him right away
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Okay I need to figure this out
First time I played Rebirth and I went up against Isaac, I was like "oh cool he got buffed big time"
And then I went up against the Blue Baby and it seemed like nothing changed
Did they actually buff Isaac or am I going crazy?
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>>121877924
he's never going to start with holy mantle. Edward liked the original lost before he added spectral tears and the d4. people suggested holy mantle to him but he decided against it.
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List items that you would remove from the game, /boig/.

Whether they're severely outclassed by similar items (all the +1 HPs competing with Meat and Blue Cap, for instance), detrimental, or just plain useless, share 'em.
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>the chest
>tiny room double gurdy jr

FUCK YOU EDMUND
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Does Chocolate milk does anything with ludivico? What are my chances of beating this if I just freeze myself with gnawed leaf?
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>>121878197
I would remove soy milk from the "special" item pool. It can stay in the game otherwise.
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>>121878197
Bob's Brain and Experimental Treatment.
I don't mind shitty items at all, it's annoying to get a run with garbage-tier items but at the same time, I don't want every single run to have shit like Ipecac or Epic Fetus. But Bob's Brain and Experimental Treatment are literally the worst things concocted by human beings.
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>>121878197
Too many to list.
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>>121878184
>Edward liked the original lost
nah man I simply won't believe that one man can be that retarded, is there even 1 person out that that unironically likes or at least plays as the lost without scumming it hard?
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>>121878339
They did that in afterbirth
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>>121878339
It already is.
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>>121878286
if you have ludo 100% chance of beating it if you use gnawed leaf. May take a while though. someone did it with a plop and it took em 3 hours.

>>121878342
holy shit fuck experimental treatment. I never take that garbage. Hell if I see it floor 1 I just reset my run.
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>>121878286
I don't know, but Dead Onion does nothing for you.

And 100%, since Hush pretty much never moves.
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>>121878339
they actually did do that in afterbirth
same with lil' brim
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>>121878413
>>121878427
awesome that's good news.

>>121878403
yeah he posted in some blog post about how much fun he was having doing lost runs and how it was becoming his favorite character.
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>>121878286
Ludo already gives you piercing+spectral tears so Dead Onion is useless. Dead Onion is also a shot speed DOWN which is terrible for Ludo. Take Chocolate Milk even if it does nothing.
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>>121878339

it's no longer special in afterbirth

>>121878197

common cold, every familiar minus lil brimstone rotten baby bumbo and dry baby, experimental treatment, dead onion, holy water, milk

there's a few more i'd probably remove too but i can't think of anything else right now
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>>121878184

It is literally already partially in game.

If you random into the lost it will show him having the holy mantle.
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>>121878527
>he posted in some blog post
got a source for this please?
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>>121878197
My Reflection
Tiny Planet
Experimental Treatment
Bob's Brain can stay but remove it from the chest pool
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>>121878403
I don't savescum with the lost.
his post it is nearly empty
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>>121878575

>Not liking dead onion

What the fuck.
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>>121878682

i cannot stand shot speed downgrades in this game

plus it hurts range
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>>121878286
it's a tears up for the record. according to the wiki anyway.
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>>121878197
Every Bean
Notched Axe
Breath of Life
Scissors
Cursed Eye
Experimental Treatment
Guillotine
Key Pieces and Giga Devil
Mom Items that give Range Ups
The 'Original' Heart Containers (Breakfast, Lunch)
Holy Water
Friendly Ball
New Glass Cannon
And fucking Farting Baby
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>>121878737
>spectral and piercing tears
>lingers on enemies longer than any other tear
>range upgrades are nearly as common as HP ups
What the fuck anon?
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>>121878664
it's not just the savescum exploit, almost everyone I've seen holds R until they get a good item or curse room or D4 reroll
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YOU CANNOT ALT+F4 CHEESE ON MEGA SATAN ANYMORE

IT KILLS YOU BEFORE THE SCREEN EVEN LOADS
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So explosive tear makes ludivico reset its position after exploding, rather than continously exploding in place. The more you know. Also the little flies just moves it away which is even worse.
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>MFW I can leave this Eternal Torment and be In peace with Myself
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>>121878830
I learned that as well.
I wish it did just place a tear on the enemy and stay in position, would make the synergy GOAT
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>>121878593
http://bindingofisaac.com/post/118142172929/mega-update-afterbirth-5
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>>121878817

>>lingers on enemies longer than any other tear

this does nothing

spectral and piercing are nice

and every time i get dead onion i always get no range upgrades ever. kinda shitty to rag on it for bad luck, but people don't like bob's brain because they can't use it right, so hey.
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>>121878593
>ruth be told, i think the lost is probably the most exciting aspect of the game… ive been playing as him for the last week and having more fun with the game than i ever have before… the lost totally changes the game and makes you rethink every items power level.. and that’s just good game design…sadly not every aspect of the lost reflects this.

http://bindingofisaac.com/post/118142172929/mega-update-afterbirth-5
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>>121878912
>>121878918
holy shit this killed me
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>>121878828
Same with Hush ;_;
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>Greed Mode as Lazarus
>Accidentally picked up Cursed Eye
>Roll with it
>Get to Ultra Greed
>He's 90% dead
>>>>>>>>Get teleported out
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>>121879036
pretty much, but between that blog post and the fact that all of his balance suggestions never mentioned holy mantle or dead cat i'm pretty sure we wont see them any time soon, it's probably just some leftover from testing.
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>>121878914
>this does nothing
What? It allows the tear to do more ticks of damage. Do you not know how ludo/piercing tears works?
And people rag on Bob's Brain because it's fucking terrible. It forces you to CONSTANTLY pay attention to whether it's spawned or not, and CONSTANTLY stay at a range in case it does spawn without you noticing it. Not only that but it makes fast chasing enemies impossible to avoid taking damage from.
Are you seriously fucking trying to say that Bob's Brain is a better fucking item than Dead Onion?
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>do 4 consecutive runs as azazel trying to at least get to mega satan.
>I either get the key, or have another way to get there.
>All runs go great
>except for when I get to standard satan
>all guaranteed hits
>die on second form by spawning black sperm thing on all 4 runs
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>>121879181
>fighting satan

why not just go kill isaac instead of satan? you can fight mega satan in the chest and you get 4 free items before hand.
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>>121879181
If you have both key pieces or dad's key why go to Satan?
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>>121879137

>What? It allows the tear to do more ticks of damage. Do you not know how ludo/piercing tears works?

you remember the challenge "slow roll?" well, that challenge had piercing tears. if a tear was reflected back towards boss after it had already hit the boss, the enemy would not take damage twice from the huge tear. unless dead onion changes this formula, i am led to believe it does nothing. ludovico is an entirely different story.

> It forces you to CONSTANTLY pay attention to whether it's spawned or not, and CONSTANTLY stay at a range in case it does spawn without you noticing it.

and this becomes incredibly easy to manage once you have even the slightest amount of experience with the brain.

>Not only that but it makes fast chasing enemies impossible to avoid taking damage from.

this i WILL give you.
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>>121879308
>>121879347
Because I do not have Chest unlocked yet.
I only have the Negative.
I did on my other computer, but thanks to fucking steam cloud, my main laptop's Isaac save overwrote those files.
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>>121879181
>do four consecutive runs as Judas trying to get 1 (ONE) Angel Room so I can cross Mega Satan off the post-it
>Edmund says no
It was 11 yesterday.
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>>121879462
But I got the key, or at least dad's key on every single run.
Watch it fucking change tomorrow.
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>>121879448
bruh just go unlock that shit it isn't even hard.
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>>121878267
>The Chest
>Tiny Room QUADRUPLE Gurdy Jr
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Is the sword you use in the guardian challenge an item we haven't unlocked yet, or just a reskinned spear?
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>brimstone floor 2
>lil brimstone floor 3

Jesus what a hilarious boss rush
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>Eden run
>basement 2
>only HP up, shit all damage (about 2.0)
>room filled with spiders and the fucking one that splits into spiders
>swarm me
>skittering death ensues

NICE FUCKING STEAK EDMUND

Also, Wooden Nickel will get nerfed, its too good for what it does.
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>>121879978
It's the spear.
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>>121878197

Abel: Fuck this guy. Shows up way too often.
Best Friend: Overall worthlessness
Brother Bobby, Sister Maggy, etc.
Every standard health up item that doesn't also grant some other boon.
Butter Bean
The Bean
Kidney Bean
Cursed Eye
Experimental Treatment
Isaac's Heart
Isaac's Tears
Magic 8 Ball
Mom's Pad
My Reflection
Notched Axe
Pageant Boy
Telepathy for Dummies
Mom's Pearls
Mom's heels, lipstick, underwear
Lost Fly
Teleport
Mine Crafter
Papa Fly
The common Cold

In addition,
Changes:
Remaining familiars that don't already inherit damage, of fire rate, inherit either or when appropriate
New set of health up items that increase range as well, to make up for lack of range increasing items, and decrease of health ups
Scissors now create a familiar that inherits full tear properties
All fly items that don't already block projectiles now do.
Chemical peel is now just a straight damage up
Tech 2 no longer reduces damage
Strange Attractor's shots now require a certain amount of distance to be traveled before they become magnetic.
Eve's mascara does not halve tear fire rate anymore, but still decreases fire rate by some amount
Glass Cannon goes back to how it was before the nerf.
Box of Friends goes back to being a 2 room charge

The game is now 50% more tolerable.
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>>121878085
>>121878184
There is a weird space above the D4 that I can't explain
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>>121879978
>In the Guardian challenge, the spear is reskinned to look like a sword.
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>>121880104
>Lost Fly
>Papa Fly
>Telepathy
bad taste to be honest family
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Alright welp that's enough of the Lost for the day. Two of the times I got good items I died to the same room in the cellar that has two unavoidable homing bombs in it.

I honestly wanna cheat with the Lost so badly, but at the same time I know if I do, it's just going to ruin it for me. I'm tempted to just drop the game. I regret buying the DLC. I REALLY wish Edmund dies a fucking horrible death.
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I WANT SPIDER MOD IN EVERY FUCKING RUN
IT'S SO GOOD
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>you now work at Nicalis
>you are tasked with creating a character that is even less interesting than azazel
>bonus points if your characters attack doesn't synergy with 95% of the games passive items

What do you do?
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>>121876670
It is
It'll happen to you one day and then you'll remember I tried to warn you
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>>121880568
Mom character that starts with Mom's knife but has the range that Incubus does with it.
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>>121880568

"The Really Really Lost"
Same as the Lost, but no d4, can pick up neither items nor pickups, nor cards, runes, or pills.
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>sideways bloat laser
>literally more than a full isaac away from me and still hits me
NICE HITBOX THERE EDMUND
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>need to do mega satan to finish eden's post it
>start with this

thank you edmund you are my greatest ally
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>play azazel
>get perfect items within first 2 floors
>have a fun run
>play issac
>not a single useful fucking thing until the second to last floor
>and even then it's still shit
I swear it is impossible to have a fun isaac run without using a seeded map
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>>121881037
truely it is a sign
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>>121880919
I literally just had an amazing run but died to this stupid piece of shit. I hate this boss so fucking much.
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>>121881037
inb4 curse of the blind soy milk
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fuck you ed
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>>121880919
>polyphemus squeezy cat o' nine tails
>dying to the bloat
holy FUCK you are FUCKING HORRIBLE at this game
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>>121880510
Spidermod should be a feature. Fuck the status effects just give me them delicious health bars.
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>>121881190
S L O W D O W N
L
O
W
D
O
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>>121881197
>start with 2 hearts and 2 soul hearts
>floaters can't be knockbacked or moved in any way
>they always corner you
>bloat has an instant-use laser
>and floor damage
>and bursts
>and the sideways laser has the hitbox of basically half the entire room
nah, bloat is just stupid.
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New item idea: Loner
For every familiar you have when you pick it up, it erases them and gives you +0.5 damage and +0.5 tears. For Lilith, it transfers the damage ups to the Incubus and makes Box of Friends do nothing.
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>Brains!
Holy fucking shit how do I fucking beat this
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>>121881354
>>floaters can't be knockbacked or moved in any way
but they can
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>>121881395
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>>121881438
yeah maybe if you don't have polyphemus
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>>121881354
Doesn't mean you're not shit.
You had a fucking won run and you threw like a BITCH.
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>>121881505
>instant, gauranteed, completely unavoidable damage
>threw
nah
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