DLC soon edition
old >>121643136
>Patch 1.05
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/07/information0706.html
>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
[YouTube] Bloodborne The Old Hunters - Expansion DLC Trailer | PS4 (embed)
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/
>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com
>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/
>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2
>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/
>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html
>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)
>Chalice Speedrun Guide
[YouTube] Bloodborne: Chalice speedrun to Cursed Rotted Foetid Isz
>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/
>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS
>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne
>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner
>Wheel & Deal Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
First for BMA
ops I fucked up two links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
Which npc would you have sex with, /bbg/?
>>121765662
For future reference
http://pastebin.com/SLZbb50h
Final Boss of the DLC is a Hunter battle against Lilith, the woman the Plain Doll is based on.
>>121765820
>host with no hp and a -hp gem on
lol
I'm going to savescum farm the layer 3 boss of v5v5fpsd (CRF Ihyll) once I get there if anyone wants in for rocks etc. The boss is Rom however and I'll stop once I get the gem I need. Pass will be bbg123 but actually tell me if you want in otherwise I'll just do it without ringing the bell.
>>121766241
If you want radial nourishing gems, then 8usmn4r2 might save you some time. The gargoyles on layer 3 (I think) drop up to 19.3% with a bonus effect which is basically the same as Rom's best drop.
>>121766584
Love you family. I'll do one run of Rom then I'll do that.
>>121766241
I beat the Bloody Crow fair and square. No Exploits. I avenged Eileen the proper way.
It's the most rapturous feeling in the world that fades immediately because she still dies.
>>121765820
Does that actually combo?
>>121765896
Do not stick it in crazy
Eileen is hostile at Grand Cathedral. Why?
>>121766992
You did what a woman told you to.
>>121765896
The only one who knows how to, of course. The bleeding prostitute.Though Iosefka would probably be a better mommy
>>121766992
She apparently loses her mind and thinks she's still dreaming
>>121766992
Because you fucked her questline up.
>>121766992
You didnt help her kill henryk
>>121767037
The Vileblood? Goddamn it
>>121767037
>>121767405
>>121767523
What Vileblood? Henryk is the guy she tells you not to help her kill beneath Oedon Chapel. He was Gascoigne's partner in hunting way back before he started to go crazy.
>>121765896
Gascoigne.
Does SRRC work well with passwords now? I'm heading through chalices and was wondering if anybody wanted to keep me company.
>>121767863
It works well enough that you can actually use it to invade now. So, yes.
Blue Elixir Simon's Bow charged r2s
Flat ARC Saw Mill transformed L2
Oil Urns + Ignition Hammer
Imagine.jpg
>>121767957
I'd rather physical Saw Mill + beast pellets. You know how that shit will work.
Does atk down not apply to elemental weapons?
>>121768125
Atk down will reduce all forms of damage: physical, blood, arcane, fire, and bolt.
>>121768125
When it just says ATK, that means ALL ATK. This makes the gem useless.
These curses should have some kind of other bonus, like making the secondary effect 3x stronger, or increasing the phys bonus for HP depletion.
>The Hunter's Nightmare
> Research Hall
> Fishing Hamlet
> Clock Tower
>4 new areas
>2 hours each
How many reused bosses do you expect?
I think Fire Cleric Beast makes sense, maybe we'll see every boss that is killed Pre-Rom. Imagine Fire Gascan
Is there a softcap for SKL's bonus to visceral damage?
Does STR boost it too?
What kind of damage does a 99 SKL build pull with 3 clawmarks and 3 27.2%?
Is the upcoming DLC the only additional content coming out for the game?
>>121768435
Yes, it's two DLCs in one.
Development has shifted to DaS3 and the next Sony/From collab.
>>121767957
I wish there was some kind of red tearstone in bloodborne that didnt include gems.
>>121768481
>next Sony/From collab
Any word on that or is it too early?
>>121768386
Yes
No
Not sure, something in the upper end of four digits
reddit did a thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/32so9i/visceral_attack_level_breakpoints_and/
Beasthood also boosts visceral attacks, since they count as visceral damage
Here's a video of a guy combining high level, high skill, clawmarks, max tempering gems, and beasthood for 13,000 damage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFUhIf5GYQQ
>>121768227
>>121768263
So I have a fire + 8.4% and a atk down 4.1%, but the weapon still gets +damage when I put the weapon in. Is the game not factoring the negative or is it too minor?
>>121768623
Yes, the game is factoring in the negative. Pay attention to the numbers:
The gem is giving +8.4% first, and after that all attack rating is reduced by 4.1%. You're gaining more damage than you lose, but a gem with +8.4% and a different curse will simply give more damage.
>>121768615
>since they count as visceral damage
supposed to be "since they count as physical damage", and to clarify: beasthood doesn't boost viscerals passively, you have to activate it with either a pellet or claws, then raise the meter.
>>121768786
I just wanted to confirm it affected elements. I found a better gem immediately after regardless.
So I killed Eileen's foe at Grand Cathedral. Where is she now?
>>121769084
My apologies, anon.
>>121769109
Right where you left her, unless you left the area immediately after killing that guy.
>>121769109
Heaven
Did BB have any fun unpatched glitches like spellswapping, or roll parry flying?
>>121769184
>>121769196
She said she was just resting... ;_;
Anyone got any good sliders?
>>121769315
There was a duping glitch that let you transfer stacks of 99 items between characters, the rifle spear was broken in an oddly specific way and could deal 1.5k damage per shotgun blast if you stuffed it with flat arcane gems, and that's pretty much it. No other major glitches come to mind, outside the typical nerfs or buffs. A lot of the classic DeS/DaS1 bugs were avoided by virtue of mechanics overhauls like spells being usable items now instead of tied to equippable weapons.
>>121769315
There used to be a skip that allowed you to enter the Forbidden Woods at the start of the game.
Does anyone like fighting Rom?
>>121770346
I like helping people fight Rom
No matter what level you are someone is struggling.
>>121770346
I do, there's a lot of stuff you have to keep track of at once and it's pretty intense. Pro tip, you can dodge the meteors reliably by looking up, and there's always a specific sound effect that plays when they're coming down.
>>121766830
If you're close enough you might be able to pull off that webm, i can't tell if he parried then bma repeater or just shot him immediately during the stagger of reiterpallasch shot.
Or its just lag.
>>121770346
Eh, it's not bad
So the hand lantern doesn't affect stamina regeneration anymore?
That's what the wiki says.
>>121771552
It does not. Try it out.
>>121770585
You can just out run the meteors.
>>121770346
No. I like consistency. My favorite bosses are the same in terms of difficulty every time I fight them under the same circumstances.
The difference between rom being easy and rom being tedious is tied to RNG.
>>121772604
Don't you have something better to do, lucy?
How's that platinum trophy coming, guys?
>>121772894
Won't be platinum anymore since the DLC comes with new trophies.
>>121772604
how is it rng
>hit rom
>it summons spiders
>kill first wave
>hit rom again
>rom disappears
>thin out some spiders while keeping an eye on rom
>if rom stands up, LOCK ON TO A FUCKING ENEMY AND DASH AWAY IT'S SO EASY TO DODGE THE METEORS GODDAMN
>DON'T APPROACH FROM THE FRONT UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET SLAMMED
>when rom falls on its back, GET THE FUCK AWAY
>if you get greedy, you'll get hit by the explosion attack, so DON'T GET GREEDY
>keep hitting rom until it dies
>prey slaughtered
why is this so hard for people to understand
>>121772923
The new ones are most likely in its own a separate trophy list.
>>121772923
That's not how it works, friendo
>>121772778
Lucy's a fucking moron for still being stuck on it. Rom is piss easy, but it will arbitrarily drag the fight out because it will only sometimes decide to flail or AoE two or three consecutive times with seemingly no indication as to why. Two out of three times I fight it, it's fine. It can flail or launch an attack, I go in, I run out, rinse and repeat. The other time, it will flail twice in a row and won't let me approach for 20 seconds after that because it keeps bringing up its AoE. What really stings my sphincter is that it happens with no difference in my movement/attack pattern in all three fights.
>>121773116
>locking on to anything
$mh 2bh f4m
>>121773443I found a disgustingly easy way to kill RomBut I don't want to post it with lucy around
>>121773443
Locking on to a spider or Rom itself is an incredibly easy and 100% safe way to dodge the meteors. (Assuming we're talking story Rom and not chalice Rom, in which case you can easily use the pillars.
>>121773637Is it consistent?PM it to meGT:EmoDragonZ
Speaking of (Chalice) Rom, I'm getting fucked up trying to clear the spiders. They're clumping up a lot and trying to lure them away from each other usually has all three run at me with that constant swiping attack. First time I've ever struggled. They're each taking 3 hits to kill and I have 7 vit. Rate my blog etc.
Anyone splunking? I'd start one, but i only have enough materials for a sinister Isz.
Does the Flamesprayer's scaling ever make upgrading it worthwhile for an arcane build?
>>121774179
Reposting for great justice
Ithyll:
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Loran:
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Isz:
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>>121773921
>7 VIT
I think I found your problem.
>>121774476
No, the problem is the clumping up. I finally got to the third phase and died to him spamming meteors 10 times in a row. I'm not made of stamina, man.
>Henryk's tragically long life
What does it mean by this?
>>121774237
Of course it's worth upgrading. It destroys practically every Beast and Rom. Rom goes down in under a minute with it.
You won't get rosmarinus for a long time, so it's worth +6ing.
>>121774179
I have enough materials to make 6 of any depth 5 chalices. Sinister, or any additional rites. So I can savescum you guys up some fresh chalices, if you'd like.
>>121774673
I'd say either summon someone to help you out or revisit the chalice when you have better gems or upgraded weapons.
>>121774684
You either die a hero or live long enough to be mindfucked by space aliens.
>>121774767
Alright I'll go bully shadows and story Rom.
>>121773736
I haven't died to meteors since literally my second attempt at fighting it.
>>121774684
Henryk's age is weird. Why isn't Gascoigne noted as being old if the two of them were bros? I honestly want to chalk up the age thing as an oversight.
Also thanks for the answer about the flamesprayer, I'll take it to +6. I've never used it on Rom before, can I just hold down the trigger and keep her in place?
>>121773857
>EmoDragonZ
You're still here? Holy shit, dude. Have fun with that one.
If I was almost level 70 and getting my shit pushed in by martyr would you guys laugh at me
My stats are all over the shop and my arcane is worthless
>>121765896
I'd let Alfred or Gascoigne fuck me desu
>>121775853
I am laughing
He is a pretty hard hitting boss though
>>121765896
He's mine.
Is the psn group bugged for any one else?
>>121775304
>can I just hold down the trigger and keep her in place?
Depends on rng, but yes.
>>121775983
It's so late and I've been playing so long
Fuck I'm making so many mistakes
>>121772894
f-fuck you
>>121776224
poor guy
What do I name my male 99 ARC only space wizard?
>>121776224
Well I hope rng favors me tonight
Anyone need help?
I can't sleep.
>>121776326
Do you need a hand friendo? I love killing Logarius.
>>121776989
I was just there helping people. Goddamn, that's a fun and hard boss.
If I had known arcane builds were this good at PvE, I'd have made one six months ago. The only chalice boss that took even a modicum of thought was defiled hotdog, by which I mean I tap his nose with a cane a couple times.
Today has left me feeling so dirty.
>>121775304
He could have been much older than Gascoigne when they first met.
>>121765896
Fake Iosefka (as long as she is bound so she doesn't try to turn me into an alien). If I had to choose one.
>>121777057
Yeah he's a really fun boss. He also seems to be the one most people here struggle with given how many times I've helped killed him here.
>>121777242
I thought about that. I'm not sure why Gascoigne would hang out with an old man to kill things but there's not enough information provided to really substantiate either party.
>>121777257
>implying you could take fakesefka when abhorrent couldn't
>>121777359
He could have been a mentor of sorts to Gascoigne. But you are right, not enough information. Perhaps we might to meet them in the DLC.
>>121777242
>>121777270
Some say Gascoigne came to Yharnam in search of the cure-all promised by the Church's blood and ended up starting a family with Viola, who was Henryk's daughter. That's why you find Henyrk has gone mad at the tomb of Oedon.
>>121777396
>after DLC hits
>going through standard loran chalice
>glowing message in front of abhorrents fog gate
>If you need assistance you need only ring the bell...
>It's fucking Iosefka
>special moveset/attacks etc
>knocks abhorrent on his ass with mega augur of ebrietas
Pls
>>121777545
She wouldn't even need special moves, her cane already inflicts poison damage.
>>121777461
I really have high hopes for lore revelations in the DLC. Miyazaki better deliver.
>>121777519
But if Henryk was tragically old then how old was Viola? Unless he had a child when he was slightly less tragically old? Henryk's age just feels really weird and unexplained.
>>121777162
When you eventually go for your abyssals, pray you don't run into Undead FRC Giant depending on what glyph you end up using.
Glove spam doesn't work there I've found.
>>121776989
I just logged off for the night sadly. When I wittled him down to 1/4 and then promptly rolled off the roof I realized I'm too fucking tired for this
Back at him tomorrow, maybe I'll have some luck. Thanks for the offer.
Why is Cainhurst such a magnet for ganksquad shitters lads? Invaded these little faggots a few times just camping by the lamp waiting for invaders, finally got some retribution when they split up a little, part 2 incoming.
>>121777840
Undead FRC Giant was the most annoying fucking shit.When I finally stopped using my fire saw spear and spells and just went full freestyle with my ARCane I wrecked his shit though
>>121778062
Logarius is the one man eater of newbies, I get heaps of summons for him.
>Golden Ardeo and Cainhurst Armor
GOD DAMMIT YOU FUCKING HERETIC STOP THAT
>dude let me in I'm a fairy
Why is it hard to focus sometimes, bbg?
>>121778225
>GOD DAMMIT YOU FUCKING HERETIC STOP THAT
I'm neutral I swear!
R1 to victory. This felt so gud.
>>121778225
I know what my new armor combo is now. ;)
Thanks brah. >>121778062
>>121778662
No vileblood is neutral. All must be purged.
Why are Vilebloods so much better than Executioners?
>>121778662
He definitely should've landed a parry on you. I feel bad for him.
>>121777618
I wish we knew what kind of gems every NPC had.
Debug hack when?
>>121778662
>Chesty McGee
10/10
Only R1 spam I like is when we're trading hits and the other guy is clearly losing but he keeps hitting anyway.
I didn't know the spiders in Rom's fight dropped Madman's Knowledge.
>>121779119
>I do this sometimes in PvE
>against fucking red spiders
I bet they climb back up the bell maidens asshole and have a good old laugh about me
JUSTICE SERVED.
>>121778716
You got me. I enjoy purging the lady's land of all these plebs while wearing this helm to add insult to injury.
>>121778798
Kek yep, I was surprised he didn't parry me, I just bombed in balls to the wall.
>>121778753
>Knights with taste in decor, statuary, looks
>Use beautiful weapons and armor
>Weapons that only people with Skill can use
>Add atmosphere to the Hunter's Dream by constantly dying to Chikage drain and leaving crying messengers
>Not OP, win by knowing their weapons
>Vileblood NPCs are the absolute best of their kind and the greatest challenge, and the covenant leader is immortal
vs
>Wacky charlatans with a pointless crusade against those who did nuffin wrong
>No taste whatsoever, dress in clashing metal cones and loose robes
>Only won because of a magic spamming demigod leading them
>OP and win by exploiting a broken tactic that will get nerfed next patch
>Covenant leader kills himself for being a lonely pleb
Executioners, are you even trying?
>>121779393
>broken tactic
???????????
I need to stop wasting bullets in the arena chalice. I'm so used to mensis shitters jumping back to heal and forget there's not healing here (NOT LIKE YOU EVER ACTUALLY PARRY THEIR HEALS WITH ALL THIS DELAY)
>>121779795
I'm not sure he realizes what broken means.
>>121766729
i just killed eileen for the badge while shes helpless on the floor
that pouncing attack you guys are all freaking about about in the dlc trailer is just the jumping attack for the besat claws
>>121781023
You've clearly never used the beast claws. Give me a few minutes to make a webm and show you why you're retarded.
First, the trailer clip.
>>121781023
looks alot like the jumping attack for tricked unarmed actually
>>121781023
>>121781125
And here's the jump attack for claws.
>>121781275
You're kind of right. A few differences though, 'nother webm coming up.
>>121781275
>>121781446
And done. With the fists, you punch the ground. In the trailer, the arms aren't even used in the attack and are just flailing around for balance, while the attack itself seems to be the faceplant.
>>121781676
i see the differences now. thanks based anon.
>>121781881
No problem.
>>121781940
Are arcane beast claws worth trying?
Or did you just have the stats for them?
>>121781940
i like this filename
>>121782021
Just the stats. I'd imagine they're terrible, since beasthood wouldn't boost the damage and you'd only get the defense drops. It's not like the moveset is really worth using.
>Died to Abhorrent over 3 times
I know there is no excuse for this sort of badness, but in my defense, my gems are shit.
How ironic to kill a bloodtingefag with a non bloodtinge bullet.
>>121782359
Is spinning wave the new well what is it?
>>121782316
Is that story abhorrent? If so, your gems are expected to be shit at that point.
>tfw there is no fanart of abhorrent
>>121782021
>>121782135
I've tried using bolt ones, pretty terrible desu.
Might still go back to it though if the DLC does have those persistent elemental effects on weapons like the trailer suggests. Gotta look as Abhorrent as possible.
>>121782536
Were you the one using them in the FC?
>>121782614
Nah, I've got a beast claw twink I used them with, which makes me think elemental claws must be absolutely terrible if they're not good even on a twink.
>>121782469
Absolutely criminal.
>>121782469
Usually I go through with 3x 19.8%, but I'm doing an Arcane build atm, so no luck there.
>Went through the trouble of freeing Adella so I could get Church Bow
>Forgot to talk to her before killing Rom
fug damit
>>121782468
nah nothing will replace the smugness of wwii
>>121782468
It's more like the new No Way. Well What is It could be used for many things.
>get summoned or summon someone? welcome them with open arms, but your offer for a hug get's declined
>as a "really?" gesture
And of course as a taunt.
Wave is just :^) as a gesture, just as No Way was.
Invading mergos is dogshit now, nothing but minmaxing wheel and reiterfags. Pls fuck off back to nightmare frontier.
>>121774365
splunking jqpdwtij wish me luck
>tfw /bbg/'s splunking covenant is better than any official covenant in the series
Starting a vit gouge 43 twinkling, best origin is lone survivor if I want 40 vit?
>>121783214
Mergos sucks at 98 dude. Try 60 or so
Is there any way to easily kill those cainhurst fuckers, the ones outside that jump on you and fuck your shit up. Are they weak to anything?
Also are the blue ghost things and gargoyles weak to anything?
>>121784226
They're weak to wheel, ludwigs, cane, sword part of kirkhammer, so holy things. Also arcane. Arcane gemmed wheel fucks their shit up even when they appear in D5 FRC dungeons. Same deal for the ghosts
>>121782359
were you in 6cb his week?
>>121784405
Thanks bruh. Is that both forms of lhb?
Also how come the cane is a holy weapon?
>>121784578
Yep, I think the greatsword part of it gets a better modifier though.
Any NG+ invaders here? I want to try out some high-level gonker invasions but I don't know where to go or what level range to be at. I've been getting some hits with my 98 but not many.
>>121782468
Spinning clap is slightly more insulting, but spinning wave is pretty good too.
>>121784510
No idea what that is m8.
>>121783713
If Vitality is the ONLY stat you are investing in, you'll want Waste of Skin.
Is there any reason not to kill the guy in the chair just outsude rom?
>>121784578
Cane only gets the modifier in its cane form, not in its whip form. And it's not a very good modifier. +20% IIRC. LHB has the best modifier, +50% damage IIRC.
>>121784882
Basic sense of human decency?
>>121784882
No
>>121785291
Scrub.
>>121785291
Kek detected
>tfw word filter on kek
>>121785737
>kekold
>kekhurst
Based japanese moot
>>121782316
Abhorrent's a tough boss mate nobody's gonna chastise you for dying a handful of times
>>121786061
>nobody's gonna chastise you for dying a handful of times
>mfw fighting defiled Amygdala
>always get him to ripping off his arms without getting hit
>thefunisgoneforgood.jpg
>eat shit and die because he has longer range than the arena
You fucking liars, this is way worse than the watchdog.
>jqpdwtij layer 3 boss
>pic related is in Yahrnam's chamber
>wtf is that shadow near the lamp?
>it's a gateway>there's a forth layer
>>121786730
Run to the tip of his tail. His jumps will put his head right in front of you for free hits. Rinse and repeat.
>>121786982
I've heard about this trick, I'm going to try it when he hits stage 3. Fuck this nigger.
>>121786730
Watchdog is difficult? Nigga that's the most fun fight in the game.
>>121787047
Exactly, I always see people say defiled Watchdog is the hardest fight in the series, but it wasn't that bad at all. Amygdala on the other hand can fuck right off.
>>121786730
I would never tell someone that Amy is easier than Hotdog. Hotdog is like a DS1 boss in how mechanical you can be with him, same can't be said for Amy.
Defiled Amy's third stage is only easy if you have good ranged damage, like an ashed repeater or spooky red skulls.
>>121787124
I can easily get her to her third stage without being hit, but once in third stage I just cannot get a hit in and I die. I'm going to run under her and hack at her legs for like an hour and kill her stage 3 like that.
>>121787109
>Amygdala on the other hand
Which one? :^)
Has anyone ever found a buffed Madmen in a Isz FRC chalice, preferably the corpse holding one?
>>121787109
>>121787124
It's literally just stay in close enough range to make sure he doesn't use the jump attack, and even then it's still pretty easy to dodge.
>soundtrack
>boss aesthetic
>constant thrill of 2 shot
bruh I play that shit with no HUD, fun as fuck.
Amy though? Nah, as soon as the fucking arms come off I struggle. Don't think I've beat her without cheesing the tail yet.
>>121787032
This is the trick. When he lands, you need to be at where his tail was when he jumped
>>121773637
I already Beat Rom again. I never has any issues with her except it being slow on melee characters.
>>121787124
>same can't be said for Amy
https://youtu.be/6hf_WwkLgZo
>>121787715
>I already Beat Rom again.
And maybe soon you'll have our approval, huh?
Guns are aids desu
>>121787124
I'm curious what you mean by DS1 bosses allowing you to be "mechanical" with them.
>>121787772
Maybe then Senpai will finally notice me.
>>121788082
He means if you went through the same motions each time then you would get the same result, such as waiting for a certain attack string, which would always end at the same point, then attacking. In BB, Bosses can seemingly continue their attack strings at random and have very slim cool downs after them. It means in BB, you have to rely more on reflexes than careful strategy.
>>121788082
Maybe it was just a result of doing SL1 runs, but there's ways to do DS1 bosses where you don't need to react much at all, you just have input:windup, output:dodge timing. They're pretty much all designed such that if you know their movesets and are fastrolling, you should never get hit. Hotdog is the same in that if you keep the right general distance, bait the right attacks and dodge appropriately, you should never get hit. Most BB bosses feel messier than that.
>>121788335
>messier
That's the word for it. HMPH mighth be one of the worst examples: those attacks he has that just don't have any startup. Cleric beast has one too. Sort of reflects the Bloodborne idea of oh you're going to get hit, but that's alright, dodge the rest of the string, counterattack and get most of it back.
Doesn't work that way with CRF though. Usually those messy attacks just kill you. Flailing attacks, or noodling as another anon put it.
>>121788335
BB enemies and bosses are designed to reward positioning more. DkS-style "memorize roll timing for every telegraph" enemies are boring as fuck, IMO.
You can still generally get through fights without getting hit in BB, you just can't rely entirely on i-frames to do it.
>don't realize you need 10 strength for the repeating pistol until I'm already up to defiled
well fuck. i don't know if my autism can accept bl44
>>121789897
It also requires skill for some reason. But str shouldn't be a problem, you need 10 for your chikage anyway.
>>121789989I'm not using a chikage.Well I'm already bl43, so fuck. How much damage do I lose by using evelyn instead?
>>121790134
Assuming 25 Bloodtinge and a 31.5% gem, you lose 60 AR.
>>121790134
A fair bit, but you get double the shots so I find it better for invasions anyway. Most of your shots will miss.
>>121790298
How about 47 Bloodtinge?
>>121790301
Fuck. I really gotta go to 44 huh. My autism maaaaan
>>121790410
at 47 with a 31.5% gem, you'd lose ~48 AR.
>>121790509
thx friend. God I feel like such a retard
>>121789885
which fights can't you rely entirely on iframes for?
the only ones I can think of are def amy in phase 3 where you have to have good positioning in order to iframe, and I don't think you can roll through rom's arcane explosion shit
This bug is fucking aids, literally makes you phase through them when they're in the parry animation instead of letting you visceral them.
>>121790873
It's maybe more accurate to say that you shouldn't rely on i-frames. Maybe somebody out there can git gud enough to i-frame through all of BSB's attacks, but it's easier to just walk behind it. Similarly, bosses like Cleric or Amelia that have very dangerous attacks when you're in front of them that are harder to dodge reliably than anything in DkS, but which don't deal a lot of damage when you're to the side or behind them.
Compare this to bosses like Smelter Demon where basically regardless of how you position yourself, all of its attacks will hit you. With the exception of its PBAoE, you just have to block or i-frame through every attack. So from a design standpoint, it isn't "allowed" to have any attacks that would be unfair to roll through.
>>121791715
It bothers me too, but only against that boss, because it's one of the few where going in for a visceral and not getting the i-frames can get you killed.
>>121791715
Agreed. I OS gun+dash forwards, then hold back before I press r1. It's prevented it for the most part for me
>>121791906
This webm angers me.
>decide I want to see what happens when Adella kills Arianna
>send Adella to Oedon Chapel
>get there
>she's not there
Mildly upset
>>121791906
>ran through frc ihyll and isz watchers at least a combined 200 times
>die to lower pthumeru layer 1 watchers at least once per playthrough
every
single
time
>>121792336
Yeah the special school playroom they make you fight them in constantly assfucks me
>select all pies
>1pie 1 cake
>klol
how do i fight this NPC and get their weapons
>AFK in Nightmare Frontier
>come back to find there's an invader still in my world
>not sure how long he's waited there
>end up falling for the ledge when trying to run around the Winter Lantern
fug
I wonder if the Moonlight Sword will be an arcane weapon..
They didn't shed any light on that yet, right?
>>121794743
It's a BLT weapon sorry to get your hopes up.
>>121794796
>tfw one of every buildexcept full arcready to go
>>121794743
>scales with endurance
>>121794831
>tfw one build that can use everything ready to go
30/20/30/15/18/40
On a pure ARC build what weapon do I take past +6 first? ARCane, Fire saw spear or Flamesprayer?
>>121795039
Firesprayer
You wont have the right gems at that early on to make the ARCane or the fire saw spear worth it.
>>121795039
ALways your melee weapon first
>>121795084
>>121795097
sweatingfrog.jpg
What arei-frames
Yes im a casual
>>121795392
frames where you are invulnerable.
>>121795392
invincibility frames....DUH!
>>121795440
Thanks bruh
Never tried skill character in this game. I was planning to start one since the Simons bowblade looks really nice. Probably going to use BoM and BB also.
I was thinking to keep him somewhat low level, about 30-40.
Whats the best way to distribute points here?
Mainly thinking about that arcane there, since all three weapons seems to need it also besides skill.
Where do I find good gems for ARCane outside of chalice dungeons?
>>121795821
1 triangle under Iosefkas clinic, 1 droplet in mensis, 1 nourishing radial(15%) in mensis.
Technically the ayyliums in the forest drop triangles but they're universally worse than the one under the clinic.
Soz arcane family
>>121796010
Don't suppose you have the updated arcane build info pic do you?
>>121797187
Gotchu monica
>>121797187
>>121795771
If you wanted to make a twink at 43, I'm sure you'd be okay with
28 vit
12 end
10 str
25 skill
10 bt
8 arc
10 str is there to let you use burial blade, and 10 bt is there to let you use reiter. If you don't care for it, leave bt at 7 and bring vit up to 31. Burial blade and BoM both do scale off of arcane, but the gain you'll get from each level in arc is so shit you'd be better off just leveling skill, especially if you're aiming to use a low level build.
There's the argument that you might be better off just pumping vit and leaving scaling stats at only required values for wielding whatever it is you wanted to use but Idunno man, you do you.
>>121797650
Hey thanks, those stats look promising.
I guess I'll put arcane to nine since that seems to be the requirement to bowblade.
Is it possible to summon for Paarl in Yahargul, before red moon? What about after the red moon?
>>121798371
yes for before, dunno about after
>>121798371
Yes for both, but you need to be out of the cavern around from Yahar'Gul either way.
>>121797650
Oh yeah but, isn't that 31 already pretty much HP? I mean, If I up skill just so that I can use bowblade I would stop at 15 skill.
I think 40 HP would be little bit too much and doesn't 10 more points in skill give significantly more damage?
how do i stop being hype
pls help
>>121801884
It's simple.
You buy Fallout 4.
>>121802002
b-but 3 and NV were terrible
>>121802041
4 sounds just as bad so far, even if you haven't been to /v/.N4G shows major framerate issues, long load-times (about as long as BB is now, but for every damn door), and whatnot.
>>121802041
Yeah, that's the stop being hype part. You piss yourself off with a really shitty game, or depress yourself with a really sad game.
>min-max multiple builds
>create twink that now has over 100 hours
>somehwere over 1,000 dregs through all characters given to Vilebloods
>co-op becoming a hassle as I don't want to help randoms with overpowered gems but don't want to not use max gems
>SRRC yesterday on 98, after 15 minutes of waiting, co-op for 1 minute for a Brainsucker fight in story Isz
I need this DLC.
I can't go to any other games, because I know I'll just put Bloodborne back in my PS4 just to ring a bell and exist.
I long for the Dream.
I exist in the Nightmare.
I am the Good Hunter.
>>121802798
Set your house on fire and help people with Gehrman and MP.
Or just stop being contradictory and farm depth 2 dungeons for gems to put in some +6 weapons and co-op with your twink.
>tfw Father G eays "forgive me" as he dies after his initial shout
>>121803661
Says*
>>121802180
Regarding the console versions? It was largely shitposting. While framedrops are present, the PS4 version is actually far more stable than the xbone version (which can actually hit 0 fps at certain points). Load times suck all around however.
>hear about all these cool DLC things
>only have watched the trailer
I like blind playthroughs, but am I fucking myself over by not getting even extra hype?
>>121803825
>Regarding the console versions?
Yeah, I haven't had a gaming PC since the good WoW days.
I just saw someone playing it on PC 80-120fps at 4k though. Pretty upset, but he had a few thousand dollars worth of hardware just from what he mentioned.
>>121804152
The DLC comes out in one day over two weeks, so if you want to wait you don't have very long. But if they're handling this DLC like they did AotA, there'll still be a couple of secrets lying around that fucking no one could've guess, like the Pursuers spell.
Can anyone help with defiled hotdog? I'm sick of being bullied
jup2vzfp
bbg69
>>121803661
>you will never have an overprotective werewolf dad
>>121805124
I'll give it a go
>>121805280
Thanks m80
>>121805124
Go for the legs, brah.
If you have at least 19% gems, you can do this with an extra swing.
>>121805329
Its been a while since a co-op'd . Do I have to make the chalice then ring or can I use short root?
>>121805508
you can use the srrc to skip to L2 but it may take a while. You can also use the glyph and make the chalice for free
>>121805508
are you using the srrc?
>>121805950
Yeah. You don't have a oath rune on, do you? Doesn't that mess it up
