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Having a laugh edition

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>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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First for baby factories.
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>>121595952
this bug was already in rebirth, but will never be fixed because it's cheating and you're a cheating faggot and kill yourself cheater
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>>121596120
Fuck you m8, I wanted to be first
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>>121596173
Lilith is an impregnation station
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Why is this arousing?
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do you think edmund will remove the d20 from greed mode?
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>>121596478

Because you are pathetic and lonely.
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>>121596654
>edmund
>fixing things
lamo
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>>121596697
It's only because I'm chewing the steak of life very slowly, I swear.
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>>121596173
does this actually happen, or is it just a mock-up?
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>>121597357

Yes, it happens when Lilith takes damage after unlocking Cambion Conception
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>>121597357
It's in-game sprites I cleaned up and edited myself, I took screenshots while playing with a Demon Judgement in Greed Mode as a test
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>>121597532

>demon judgement

Go away NL
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>>121597532
Cool; shame like many of the visible changes you'll likely have them overwritten after 2-3 pickups.
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Why the hell did I start with these
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>>121597757
can you please name which bosses correspond to those symbols? I know heart is mom's heart, upside down cross is Satan, what are the others?
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>>121597757
You got memed kiddo.
>1 tear rate
>4 range
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>>121597863
Holy shit read the OP you moron
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>>121597976
oh sorry

yeah I never read the long OPs
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Which one?
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How do I git gud with the blue baby?
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First for sexualizing little horn
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>>121598103
______________git___________________________gud_______________________________
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>>121598056

Exit Game
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>>121597943
But why do I have dunce cap and Capricorn?
And why did Capricorn only increase my range?
I am so confused
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>>121597863
Mom's Heart, Isaac, Boss Rush
Satan, Blue Baby/???, The Lamb
Mega Satan, Ultra Greed, The Hush

In order of left to right, including the missing symbols.
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>>121598103
get luck
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Woah im a fucking retard, i mean this one.
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>>121598276
Left
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Should I pick up Greed Head? About to take on Isaac. And yes I carried this Jera since Catacombs II.
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>>121598103

If you would get hit by something, instead don't get hit.

You are now 100% better are BB, and Isaac in general. You are welcome.
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>>121598276
Left will always be the correct choice
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>people still haven't updated the OP

>>121597407
Use this seed: J2LP E87W.
There's two Mullibooms in the room south of spawn.
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>>121598312
>>121598351
>this is what leftfags ACTUALLY believe
Make the Right Choice(tm) anon.
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>>121598276
>inb4 you had Chaos and forget
>inb4 you get Breakfast for 1 heart
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>>121598325
WHOOPS WRONG PIC
This is the right one.

So do I get Greed Head or will that fuck up my setup? Once I got explosivo basement 1, I gave up D4 for blue candle
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>>121598325

So what do the icons on that mod even mean?

Top is obviously movement speed, but for example I can't tell if it's the bow and arrow or red sword that's damage.
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>>121598312
>>121598351

Well fucking memed
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epic...simply epic
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>>121598556
>Movespeed
>Range
>Tears
>Shot Speed
>Shot Height
>Damage
>Luck
>Devil Room / Angel Room chance
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Constructive criticism pls
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>>121598632

At least one of them is stuck across that chasm
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>>121598659
Consider suicide.

>>121598607
You're one step closer to the god tier transformation.
Be thankful.
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>>121598649

Thanks dude

>>121598659

Gross
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>>121598529
SO DO I TAKE THE FUCKING GREED HEAD?
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>>121598659
it's okay i guess/10
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>>121598836
yes you dumb fuck
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>>121598659
stop
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What's the key to success for these shitty challenges?
I'm getting butt bothered by Waka Waka
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>>121599058
Just get Brim for Waka.
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>>121598802
>>121598809
>>121598958
I expected this. There's no stopping me though.
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>>121598659
Go away man
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I did it. It's time to Jera the 4 gold chests, then DESTROY EVERYTHING.
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>>121599058

Just be Nothern Lion. Dude gets STUPID lucky in challenges. Fucker found the shovel on XXXXXXXXXXXXL and basically negated the point of the run.
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>>121599285
Keep going
The hair could look better. More round
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>>121599285
Please adopt a trip so i can follow your work.

Just kidding im just going to filter you so i can avoid your degenerate autism trying to infect other games with your undertale faggotry
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>>121597439
>a cambion is the offspring of an "incubus or succubus" and a human
Holy shit
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>>121598659
Is there a way to make isaac's eyes more "--_--" like?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
DAD'S KEY

TIME TO MEGA STAN AFTER I TAKE OUT BLUE BABY.
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>>121599526
>the lost
I hope you get a double Bloat room, faggot
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>>121599432
I'm not very good at sprites, but I'll work on the hair.

>>121599497
Yup, I plan on working on that too.
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>increase Lilith's luck
>get leech through Cambion Conception
>??????
>infinite health

don't let eggmould see this
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>>121599729
Looks pretty good if I do say myself, but yeah hair needs some work. How far are you planning to go with this?
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>>121599832

SHUSH
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>>121599903
I'm not sure. There's a lot to be done and I'm a pretty busy person myself. I have most of the sound files replaced, but changing the whole art style is a lot more work.
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Reposting cause new thread

God fucking damn was this daily trash tier or did I miss an OP item somewhere? Literally the only damage up the whole way down was a motherfucking Lump of Coal. Were it not for Infestation 2, I doubt I could have made it past Depths 1. I made a somewhat debatable decision to swap out box of friends for shovel, though, which let me go past the end of the normal daily all the way to Sheol. Almost beat Satan, too. But an Algiz Rune and a Blank Rune that activated as an Algiz rune were not fucking enough. Goddamn, what a slog. First non-Lost daily that I couldn't do Boss Rush on.

Highlights of the run: Card Against Humanity on a 2x2 room after getting golden bombs. Petrified Poop almost immediately. Went from about 5 HP to full 12 and 99 cents.

Reviving like 6 times with Guppy's Collar. I really wish I recorded just how many times this piece of shit saved me on this horrible run. Wish it did this on glass cannon runs instead of this trash.
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any completed save file with everything done?
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>>121600565
You sicken me.
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>>121600565
Slow down senpai desu
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>>121600682
>>121600661
please...
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>>121600751
Why though?
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>>121600751
CHOKE ON UR STEAK AND DIE :'):'):'):')
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>>121600565
Those don't exist
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>find mom's knife on suicide king
Y'know, maybe Edmund isn't so bad.

>>121600565
Why even play the game?
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>>121600237
There's a lot of things in isaac that just don't fit into undertale universe, but I wish you best of luck with your mod.
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>playing Eve
>managed to die because tons of speed ups but was holding Ankh
>went to Cathedral for the first time
>with one Soul Heart left
>mfw 2 fast paid off and I rekt Isaac with gigantic Monstro's Lung tears + Bob's Brain
>mfw D6

No bully, I only got Rebirth during the Halloween sale.

I don't think I've ever had such a rollercoaster of a run before, it was constantly bouncing back and forth between absolute disaster and fucking glorious.
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I am error rooms on basement 1 are sweet!
Am I right guys?
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>>121600886
>>121601047
I want to play casually but can't be arsed to put effort in to unlock all the items from challenges/lost

I have everything but the lost and challenges shit.
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>>121601762
I get super butthurt at this game's bullshit sometimes, but I would never literally cheat this shit in
Just find a different game
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>>121601635

You could always just use the hourglass to go back out. You'll keep your box and you'll be able to finish the floor.
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>>121601949
But I don't care about the achievements on steam.
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>>121601762
______________________________________________________________git gud_____________________________________________________
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>>121602021
Oh, I forgot that I would keep my box of friends.
Thanks, anon!
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>>121595890
>literally hownew.ru at the game
18h in rebirth.

>3 blue hearts is nothing
Don't even care about those.

>red hearts are useless
Why would that be?
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help
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>? card + blank card
>go to error room
>for some reason I lost blank card
Welp, that's how you kill fun Edmund.
I should have used ? card with my pandora box...
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>>121602306
"Do I take an item which I can't use after spending my last heart or do I take a great damage up?"
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>>121602465
It's only Caves 1, meaning I could get guppy, but alright.
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>picked up eden's blessing last run
>start with sacred heart

thanks game
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It says here that you've never ranked in the double digits on a daily challenge. Mind explaining that?
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>>121602586
>everyone talks about how great Eden's Blessing is because it gives them good items on their next run
>next update it only gives MissingNo
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>>121602645
I don't know the perfect daily formula.
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>>121602725
>or Bob's Brain
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>>121599467
That one is likely Immaculate Conception, yes.
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is it just me or does brimstone fucking blow now?
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>>121602645
I did that with Spelunky once.
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>>121603153
I think it's just you, m8
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>>121602306
Take them both you pussy. You just need one HP up before you die to make it worth it.
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>>121602645
I don't play dailies.
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>>121603295
it took like10-12 shots to kill peep
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How am I supposed to play now?
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>>121602645
i was 30 seconds too slow for boss rush
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Can someone who's completed Beans! start it now and tell me if the bean always charged that slowly?

>>121603639
Here's your reply so you'll stop posting this.
Last thread gave you no responses for a reason.
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>>121603580
You must be playing Azazel.
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dunce cap on lilith Y/N?
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>>121603963
never
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>>121603963
Yes.
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>>121603963

I'm pretty sure it doesn't effect Incubus, so why not.
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>>121604386
it does
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>>121603760
yes it always has been 15s

and it's horrible atm
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Fairly interesting seed. JEED 8B3E

You get the radioactive item and the trinket that adds status effect duration right at the start.
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>>121602306
>serpent's kiss

who cares you already won
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>>121604716
lewd
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>>121602645
I pirated the game
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>>121604716
If you lose this run, you're literally the worst Isaac player.
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>>121603639
Don't intentionally break the game?
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Is the key drop rate in womb and sheol massively lower or am I just really fucking unlucky?
Had to leave back 7~8 golden chests now FFS.
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What's the tiniest map you've ever seen?
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>>121605575
i won
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Oh allmighty rng gods please accept this sacrifice in return of manageable hush's continuum shit bullets.
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>Load up FARTSNDS seed to show my 11 year old cousin the game
>End up with great items
Ae achievements disabled in ALL seeds?
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>>121606554
No, that one doesn't disable achievements

http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Seeds
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So did that patch last night fix anything major?
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>finally get a good greed mode run as the lost
>curse of the maze sends me into the curse room
>no way to escape

THANKS EDMUND
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>>121607702
kill yourself and alt+f4? maybe you spawn outside
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>>121601635
I haven't seen an Error room in fucking forever, I never find Telepills anymore
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>>121607682
This is the fucking problem with the lack of patch notes. Why can't they just make Steam posts for us so we don't have to wait until someone reads the fucking update's code.
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>Blue Womb has been unlocked

but.... I've already beaten hush twice already?
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>>121606339
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>>121607753
Not working, I keep spawning in the curse room. I had never used alt+f4 to save myself before, but now I'm okay with doing it in normal runs because this is bullshit
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>>121606517
If he shoots up or down, run to the left or right wall. If he shoots left or right, run to the top or bottom wall. It's easy to find safe spots if you do it like that.
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>>121607994
You like that nicalis coding, anon?
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>>121608210
Got that figured out but still one of the fucking bullets manages to hit me. This is true hell.
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Book of Belial or Book of shadows?
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What are my chances?
UI doesn't show holy mantle tho
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>>121607927
If you find it, the Teleport 2.0 can get you there. It warps you somewhere you haven't been yet on the floor when used.

Priority is, from top to bottom is normal rooms > regular special rooms like shop/cursed/boss/etc. > secret room > super secret room > devil/angel room (even if you didn't qualify for it this floor). If you visited literally everywhere else, you get sent off to I AM ERROR.

>>121609367
Depends; do you want to avoid damage or do you want to kill things faster and have more devil/angel rooms
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>>121609539
I ended up going with the book of shadows since I'm already dishing out near max damage according to the stats.
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>>121609867
there's no such thing as max damage
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>tfw the only character that got any buffs at all was the Lost

Just give him innate Holy Mantle or at least Dead Cat and he might actually be viable.
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>>121609532
Pretty good, Ultra Greed is a chump
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>>121610137
cain got the paper clip though
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>>121610225
I still think that idea in the last few threads of the Greed machine unlocking extra starting items for everyone would be great, but nope I guess that would be too much fun
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>next update
>game crashes if any fun is detected
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>>121609532
>gnawed leaf
Literally just stand still and let ultra greed bump into you a bunch of times. Walk away from the computer and go have a fap or something.
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>>121610074
I am aware of that, which is why I said "according to the stats".
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>>121609367
book of shadows
>easy boss with cube of meat / sacrificial dagger
>free blood donation machine
>free devil beggar
>can let you pick items behind spikes, enter curse room, etc

book of belial
>nice damage up
>better chances to get devil deal / angel room

2 really good items, if your damage is good or you have an orbital, get the book of shadows.
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>>121610505
The other day I started an Eden run with Gnawed Leaf and Gemini, easiest Hush and Mega Satan victories ever
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Does Immaculate Conception:
-count soul hearts?
-count eternal hearts?
-work with The Lost?

>>121610452
Time to start playing Maggie :^)
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>>121610452
Sounds good for me
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Just beat the Hush. Is he supposed to be easy fat fuck? It was more boring than hard, the only time i got hit was when he summoned his minions.
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how does NL feel about the situation with afterbirth
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>>121610452
All devil room items and any time the d6 is used cause the game and all its files to be replaced with a 5 hour movie of Edmund eating 3ozs of steak
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>>121597757
edens blessing?
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>>121611979
>how does NL feel about the situation with afterbirth
Canadian
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>>121611979
Watch his recent Maggy Daily run, he talks about it in there a good bit. He thought the Azzy-zy nerf was sorta stupid because he's been as he is for a year.

He doesn't like the scoring system on dailies, much.
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>>121611658
Immaculate Conception requires you to take damage so it's useless with the Lost.

Unless you have a dead cat and shit loads of luck then it can POSSIBLY spawn a pernament familiar.

now to kill the hush and mega satan

;_;
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>afterbirth took away my boss rush and dark room wins on the lost
guess i ate too quickly
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>>121613176
Wrong, Immaculate is triggered on Picking up hearts, any hearts.
Cambion? requires damage taken.
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>>121613176
You might be thinking of Cambion Conception.
Immaculate Conception is the one that spawns familiars when you heal.

And it's not luck based, you spawn the familiars at set intervals.
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I want to personally impregnate Lilith.
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>>121613364
Reimport your save if you aren't worried about losing Afterbirth progress.
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>every update has more synergies for the brimstone
>no synergies for Technology
EGGMUND YOU LAZY BASTARD STOP DOING SHITTY ARGS AND FIX YOUR SHIT
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Do you think it'd piss Edmund off if people suddenly started making tons of fanart of his super sekrit character before it's officially out
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>>121613628
ive got full post-it on over half of the characters so kind of too late at this point
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>>121613664
Only if they are having fun
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just unlocked the lost, should i bother trying to reroll runs until i get a dark bum in the first treasure room, or work on all the unfinished challenges i have instead? only finished challenge 16 and 19 so far, i feel like the lost should be played with as much shit unlocked as possible due to no goddamn health
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Why did edmund make ultra greed even more of a bore?
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>>121613989
>Only if they are having [/spoiler]
Don't dare to say that!
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>>121614091
Dark Bum won't help you at all. The Lost can't pick up soul hearts.

Speaking of The Lost, I'm actually contemplating suicide right now because of pic related
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>>121614091
>dark bum in the first treasure room

unlock the useful items first
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>>121614282
i cant pick up any health at all? i thought it was just red hearts, this complicates everything.

i'll come back to this ghostly faggot once i've tackled some more challenges i suppose
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>All of the treasure rooms contain active items
>Get to It Lives just because one of them was the shears
There're better ways to say "fuck you" game but i appreciate the effort.
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>>121614425
>i thought it was just red hearts
Do you really think anyone would complain about the meme character if you could get Soul Hearts?
He'd be a slighter harder Blue Baby with flight and spectral, shit would be EZ.
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>>121614425
unlock algiz and jera rune only to max chance of getting them
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>gods flesh
great fucking item edmund
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>The guardian challenge

Holy shit please tell me there's a way to cheese this. The AI is so retarded it just sits in front of enemies and gets fucked
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>>121613620
She's innately pregnant

Smack her around a few times
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>>121615197
Guess what
Reroll until you get book of shadows
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>>121615197
Cheat Engine
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>>121615197
press R until forever
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All fucking right, run #50 here we go. Maybe ill actually make it past floor 4 this time
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>Caves 1
>Eve
>Those items
RNGesus loves me today.
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>>121616335
i havent even seen brimstone in afterbirth
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>>121616335
>"FUN" detected
>Edmund protocol fuck anon engaged
>You're going to die
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Any keyboard users experience an issue where the movement keys get stuck in one direction? (character keeps moving left or right) I've checked that all the winblows sticky keys shit is disabled, but it still happens from time to time. Is there something else in windows that I need to disable, or is it a game option?
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>>121615218
It isn't the same.
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>>121616670
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>>121616685
happens to me too. I dont know what causes it .
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>>121616335

how do you get that many items in the first few floors?
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AWWWW
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>>121610210
>he hasn't played since the patch
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>>121616885
brimstone and baby from satan
steve from chest
cracker jacks from boss
pentagram from curse room
nails and fly from item room

can also be other combinations
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>>121616335
inb4 double cage double bloat and all pills are negative
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>>121616335
I just go an IV bag as well, so I can turn any red hearts I get into coins until I get guppy's paw.
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What is the weirdest synergy you've got?
Bonus points for screenshot/webm
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>>121617474
Not weird, but triple shot + Ludovico technique + Cricket's Body
I probably would've lost the run if I hadn't taken Ludo.
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>>121616181
Nope.
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anyone else real frustrated with having to skip every devil deal to get to fucking mega satan. its getting real old passing up easy wins just to get key pieces
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soulhaert or candle?
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>>121617557
Ludo + Parasite is ridiculous, I can't even imagine what it looks like with triple split shot added on
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>>121618185
candle
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I wake up and isaac updated. My friend messaged saying ultra greed was buffed, is that the only thing the patch did? Or was he a retard and didn't notice from the last patch (did he get buffed the last patch?) also what did this patch even do, can I play azazel without wanting to fucking kill myself anymore than usual?
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>>121616685
>>121616863
sounds like ghosting; what kind of keyboards do you two have?
Could also be: USB controller (the driver, not an actual controller), kb/m drivers, the game.
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>>121617474
doctors remote + technology, missile shot lasers in several directions

>>121618453
apparently just ultra greed coin hp buff

azazel still trash tier
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So this just happened.
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>>121618453
also the monstro before ultra greed got replaced with super greeds or something
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>>121617474
I think this is neat.

http://webmshare.com/X59d3
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>>121619383
it's a gift
have FUN
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>>121618775
eh coin buff doesnt mean much probably (we'll see) but azazel is still garbage? still overnerfed? man what the fuck eggmund, leave boring ezazel in peace.
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>>121617474
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>>121619884
STANDING HERE
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>>121616335
I lost the run because I forgot IV bag does 1 heart damage in the womb.
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>>121619884
I can't stop laughing, holy shit.
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>>121619884
And Pyromaniac, presumably?
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>>121619884
gotta go fast
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>>121619884
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>>121620140
Nah, either host hat or some other explosion immunity, considering he's not being healed.
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>>121620124
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What's the most bullshit time-consuming challenge and why is it beans?
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>>121620140
Soy milk+Ipecac automatically gives you explosion immunity.
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>>121620140
>>121620250
ipecac + dr fetus makes you not take damage from them for some reason
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>>121620140
>>121620250
that gif was before afterbirth. Dr fetus and ipecac instantly explodes on your face but you don't get hurt. Strange synergy.
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>>121620124
I SAID IT
IT'S THE EDMUND FUN CURSE
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>>121618775
Coins also break faster the more damage you deal to him
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Afterbirth is killing my desire to play. Too much artificial difficulty, too many questionable design decisions. I really don't see myself 100%ing this one, or even playing much at all, unless something changes soon.
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>>121620257
Maybe not as time consuming but I will stand by tard-wrangler being the most bullshit
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Does Cambrion Conception only give one familiar or can it give more?
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>>121620858
up to 4
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>>121620687
Same here. I got real platinum god before afterbirth but man, I'm not sure about now.
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>>121620858
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Cambion_Conception


Upon taking damage a certain number of times, Isaac gains a permanent demonic Familiar. Possible familiars include:
Dark Bum
Demon Baby
Leech
Lil' Brimstone
Succubus
The first and second familiars will each spawn after taking damage 15 times. The third and fourth familiars will each spawn after taking damage 30 more times. No further familiars will spawn. As a result, after taking damage 90 times, four out of five of these familiars will have spawned.
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>>121616885
He could also abuse Forget Me Not if he gets it early and repeat a floor for more items.
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>>121618453
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Version_History#2015-11-06_Afterbirth_Update
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>>121617001
Greedhead is common as fuck, I love it

>>121620421
I think having two explosive shot items does that, since I got Epic Fetus + IPECAC and was immune to explosions once
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I did it reddit
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>>121621020
Lewdest item there is.
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>get Brimstone and Keeper's Head

>doesn't spit out a cartoonish geyser of coins
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>>121621769
>not immaculate conception
>not maggie's stomach slowly distending as she eats more and more hearts
>not her womb being filled with the power of god
>not the eventual release of being too full
Demonic whore pls go.

>>121621796
What does it do?
I'm surprised they didn't just use the Mom's Knife synergy or something like it.
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>>121621714
Upvoted and gilded.
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Tiny rooms suck but they're fucking hilarious with Rubber Cement a lot of range
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>>121622313

Tiny rooms are cozy.
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so has anyone gotten the quad cage room when going to the lamb?
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>>121595893
Threadly reminder that azazel and lillith were only nerfed so you couldn't cheese greed mode and the reason they weren't changed back last patch was so you don't eat that steak in one bite. I'm so sick of this ARG bullshit and the devs sucking themselves off when EVERYONE knows who the secret character is.
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>double Rag Man
>double Little Horn
>double Haunt
>double Gemini
HOW ARE THESE FIRST FLOOR BOSSES
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>>121622467
Some hardcore Oedipus complex here.
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>>121622937
All these god awful game changes and design philosophy and I'm still going to buy this fucking DLC. What is wrong with me?
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>>121623297
>>121622937

This is the future you choose.
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>>121623297
I'm hoping at the end of all this bullshit the game becomes properly balanced and we have an actual fun time. At the moment though I really don't want to touch it due to what I would actually consider artificial difficulty.
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>>121622467
Are tiny shops possible? What about secret rooms?
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>artificial waiting: the challege goes all the way to the chest
At least the Guardian had some semblance of fun and didn't lock you out of doing anything while you had to wait for your damage to come back.
Why didn't he just make the brains respawn instantly?
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So i bought the game with afterbirth on steam, is there a way to uninstall just the DLC and play vanilla rebirth?
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Who is the new character?
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>>121615197
Honestly I'm not very good and I've beaten Speed! and The Guardian.
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>>121615197
just get the glowing hourglass in the shop
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>>121623765
Edmund, he begins with the Stopwatch
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