Master Stealth Edition
>Fallout 4 facts and speculations (Stop asking questions that can easily be answered with google or with link below)
http://pastebin.com/bYVyGttW
ALL MEGA LINKS ARE DEAD
>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc
>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza
>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/8JVSmK0b
>Tinker with parts of the new leveling system:
Vault111.com
>Countdown until release
http://fo4countdown.com/
Pre-war thread: >>118575725
First for love beyond death.
1ST FOR JOIN MULTIPLE FACTIONS VYING FOR POWER.
>>118654494
Okay, treat me like someone with 3 points in intelligence and explain to me how BoS are the good guys or generally not villains. Take as many paragraphs as you need.
>>118654595
....what the fuck are you talking about....
>>118654698
Ehh, still would. That ass just won't quit.
nth for best faction.
>>118654796
That's not the Institute.
First for console edition will be shit.
>>118654705
Oh nice, I had missed that somehow.
xth for no one using my sick meme
what are some must have mods/patches for fallout 2?
>>118655047
How?
>tfw you hear randall's voice right when you enter Frosthill
>>118655103
Teddy bear guy got ripped off, that fan could have made for a nice bludgeoning object.
>>118655103
Your an abortion of science tbh, end youreself!
>>118655160
can't make your own mods
no mod organizer
no grafix mods
worse grafix
no loverslab / jap mod blogs support
FPS with controller
>>118655160
No real mods, dumbed down creation kit..
>>118655438
>mod organizer
You mean no WRYE BASH?
>>118655438
>can't make your own mods
Don't see the problem
>no mod organizer
Same
>no grafix mods
Not everyone needs to immerse themselves in a game so much that they forget what the outside world looks like
>worse grafix
Look above
>no loverslab / jap mod blogs support
Don't really care
>FPS with controller
What are preferences
>>118655740
No script extenders or any other 3rd party tools etc. either, which is bigger than rest of his points combined.
>>118655740
those are objective reasons, just because you don't care about this stuff doesn't mean it's not a worse experience for many people
>>118655740
Dude just accept it.
No need to defend it.
You're getting less.
>>118655917
>those are objective reasons
That is literally all that I read.
>>118655905
We'll just have to wait and see... Who knows... All this is speculation...
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>>118655703
WB does file virtualization now? Oh, it doesn't? Too bad then, it loses.
>>118656048
No need to wait, Sony and especially MS won't ever allow it.
![[HUSK INTENSIFIES].gif](https://i.imgur.com/Kj5XlqE.gif "[HUSK INTENSIFIES].gif")
>>118656101
30 Mordrys
>>118656037
glad you realized you were wrong so quickly
>>118656189
>file virtualization
>I'm too much of an ADHD child and NEED to play with multiple different mod setups all at one time!
30 Morays
>>118656189
I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing what they do allow.
Modders are clever. Give 'em a set of limitations and- well, a handful of them will make magic happen, the rest will flood the market with memes and god-items.
But that handful will be breaking new ground for consoles. I might be PC master race but I'm excited as a gamer.
>>118655438
>no loverslab / jap mod blogs support
The only one I actually care about.
So where is your proof?
>>118656189
you can though, might not be one click like MOtards need, but the functionality is there
>>118656448
>proof
if you honestly believe they will allow third party stuff i don't know what to say
>>118655528
There's no creation kit for consoles. PC only.
Should I buy a new laptop to run Fallout 4 or get an XBone? I've played all the Fallout games except for 1 and Tactics. I don't really game anymore but Fallout 4 has me hyped. This wouldn't even be a question if XBone didn't have mod capabilities. But since it will and I doubt I could find a laptop for under $400 that can run it I am at a crossroads on what to do.
Laptops are shit and not meant for gaming. Either get a proper desktop and wallow in console filth.
Laptops suck.
>>118656967
>I don't really game anymore
Don't do either. Wait for it to come out, play it at a friend's house and make sure you're actually interested. Buying a game system based on hype is like drunk texting an ex.
>>118656967
>laptop
I don't even.
>>118656967
You don't play any games at all? What else do you think you would use it for? Would you get more utility out of the longterm or are you already set up with a macbook/workhorse machine?
>>118657050
Well that would probably run me past $500 wouldn't it? There is only so much I am willing to invest for this game.
>>118657050
>and
or*
>>118657182
Yeah you should never buy any system just for one game, no matter what the game. Just go with whatever you think you'd make the best use out of, but please don't buy a laptop for gaming.
>>118657413
This. And it's not even that much more expensive than a console. The 750ti beats the shit out of even the PS4 performance-wise and you could link it up to your TV to use it as a media center.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>>118657087
Yeah you're probably right. I just have a strong urge to buy it on day 1.
>>118657096
>>118657112
>>118657389
>>118657413
I should have prefaced it by saying I need a new laptop anyways. It wouldn't just be for gaming. If I buy a console though I can get a much cheaper laptop for work/internet purposes. My current laptop is good enough for New Vegas + 3 with plenty of mods on both. I am a very casual gamer at this point. Besides Fallout I occasionally mess around with Age of Empires HD and some games from the Total War series but that's about it. I see the utility of a console also because I could use it as a blu ray player/Netflix. But I can just as easily plug an HDMI into a new laptop for that too.
Will console mods really be garbage? Im not into the pervy stuff so I don't think the content restrictions will impact me at all. Im more concerned that the mods that fix shortcommings the game has, which almost certainly will be needed, won't be available if I get an XBone.
>>118656883
Sauce?
>>118654698
>implying she won't be asynth
>>118657782
>Sauce?
Todd Howard.
>>118657937No, anon. You are the synth.
>>118657782
https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/646411463452659712
>>118658137
Better start finding friends on PC...
I'm going to use a controller on the pc version.
>>118657713
Too many unknowns. Based on your gaming preferences I'd say the laptop is a better bet, just because I can't imagine playing an RTS with a gamepad, but the kind of lappie you'd need to run FO4 is going to blow out your budget and be overkill for everything else you're doing. If those are your only options, the console is more practical, even if it ends up nothing but a very expensive media player.
But again, don't do shit until you're out of hype mode.
>>118654705
stupid question but where is that from
>>118658575
Someone just added the official retailer description (Steam, for example) to a random pic-
DESCRIPTION:
Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, welcome you to the world of Fallout 4 – their most ambitious game ever, and the next generation of open-world gaming.
As the sole survivor of Vault 111, you enter a world destroyed by nuclear war. Every second is a fight for survival, and every choice is yours. Only you can rebuild and determine the fate of the Wasteland. Welcome home.
KEY FEATURES:
Freedom and Liberty!
Do whatever you want in a massive open world with hundreds of locations, characters, and quests. Join multiple factions vying for power or go it alone, the choices are all yours.
You’re S.P.E.C.I.A.L!
Be whoever you want with the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. character system. From a Power Armored soldier to the charismatic smooth talker, you can choose from hundreds of Perks and develop your own playstyle.
Super Deluxe Pixels!
An all-new next generation graphics and lighting engine brings to life the world of Fallout like never before. From the blasted forests of the Commonwealth to the ruins of Boston, every location is packed with dynamic detail.
Violence and V.A.T.S.!
Intense first or third person combat can also be slowed down with the new dynamic Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System (V.A.T.S) that lets you choose your attacks and enjoy cinematic carnage.
Collect and Build!
Collect, upgrade, and build thousands of items in the most advanced crafting system ever. Weapons, armor, chemicals, and food are just the beginning - you can even build and manage entire settlements.
>>118658812
Bethesda's marketing department.
Does anybody have good concepts of sexy power armor?
I'd like to get started on what will probably be my first mod for Fallout 4 early.
I know I want to do something with power armor, but I'm having trouble coming up with a design I like that matches the new animation style of PA.
>>118658137
This seems logical.
>>118658982
Shit meant to reply to >>118658812
>>118659015
How bulky are you thinking? Similar to the vanilla ones we've seen, smaller, or wh40k-tier hulkroidrage?
Just one more month until I can end this pathetic faction and steal their hats.
>>118659513
And some people want this shitter as a companion.
He let 15 people die in just a few short weeks.
>>118659513
The one good thing about the Minutemen is he seems to be the only cosplayer. Everyone else is dressed more sensibly.
>>118659513
>Implying they won't be essential.
>>118659942
those aren't minutemen, those are refugees from Quincy he was escorting.
>>118658118
That's a red herring.Dogmeat is a Synth, and he has your infant son's brain and is secretly head of the Institute.
>>118659942
>Overalls.
>Tool belt.
I hope that outfit's not unique, because I want it.
>>118658982
ohhhhh nice thanks
>>118660028
And he's letting a random refugee use his terminal? Checking his email?
>>118656245
>30 Mortys
>>118660201
That's probably one of the generic wasteland outfits you'll find on every jackass hobo in the wild.
>>118660229
Anon is right, if you read the leaked script it sounds like they are just refugees not minutemen. Either way, they're all dead in my play through.
>>118660229
Uhh, they were hold up there, thats not his base or anything.
>>118659883
Preach it, brother!
Though, maybe Preston wasn't the shot-caller until recently...
>>118660425
Oh. Fair 'nuff.
>>118660407
Hopefully it is. It's almost perfect for an Engineer play-through.
>>118660407
How much of that script is there?
>>118660749
You're looking at it. It wasn't the script that got leaked so much as the sound test for prospective voice actors, which it turns out was cribbed from the script.
>>118660749
Just those two pages.
>>118660974
heh, wonder if that means the husbando is locked into the vet role and the waifu must be the lawyer, never vice versa.
>>118661137
Who knows. The voiceover work began years ago, a lot could have changed since then.
>>118661314
Anything is possible, but the male VA has already talked about saying The Line ("war, war never changes"), so we know he at least did the line delivery as presented.
>>118659980
He may not be essential until you either accept the quest or get him as a companion.
>>118661489
That seems to have been only for the auditions though.
We clearly hear Ron Pearlman saying the line in the trailer.
>>118661489
>>118661657
Brain did say the Audition was the bit of script with "War...War never changes" in it.
>>118661657
I could argue "of course we did, it's the trailer", but honest truth is, I don't know that I'd recognize Ron from Brian off those four words alone.
>>118661894
Ron was speaking the whole trailer, he was the TV reporter guy we see in the E3 videos as well, the one talking about confirmed reports of nukes in Pennsylvania and New York.
>>118661894
oh you would.
Ron just has a way with that fucking line.
>>118661894
They have very distinct voices, unless Brian was asked to do an impersonation I don't see them as so easily confused.
>>118662017
I thought the reporter was a different actor.
>>118662087
nope, Reporter is Ron.
>>118659942
>he thinks those are Minutemen
Not very bright are you.
Course I could tell that from how you like to say "cosplayer" every thread in reference to Preston or the Minutemen.
>>118659980
Companions are only essential when they are following you.
>>118662756
>find dogmeat
>refuse to take him as a companion
>kill him as he walks away
I hope so, but I doubt it.
>>118663558
I recall Todd being rather clear about it.
>>118655740
>"Duh, I dun care"
Ignorance is bliss.
Was he right, /fog/?
>>118658137
So PCfags make the mods, and consolefags leech off of them? I hope it'll be possibly to flag your mods so that consolebabies can't use them. I'm not putting in that work and effort just to have them piggyback off of it.
>>118663876
Yes.
>>118663891
have it require a script extender in some nefarious way or other and you're set
>>118663876
Yes, like anyone else that ever dared to dream of a bigger future he had to turn his back on the BoS.
>>118663612
>set up companions as leaders of all settlements
>settlements get attacked by raiders
>all companions in the vanilla game die and you're forced to play solo
I hope so, but I doubt it.
>>118663891
make it use ridiculous UltraHD textures or have it conflict with the most popular mod on consoles then let them download it. Let them waste a few hours trying to figure out why their game suddenly runs like ass. You know none of them will be careful enough to install a mod, then test.
>>118664281
It's your own fault then for sucking at building defences.
>>118664414
Yes, Todd, I'm sure the AI will utilise the static defences of the settlements perfectly
>>118664569
I mean turrets.
Lots and lots of turrets.
Also big walls and as few entrances as possible.
>>118663876
More right than the "Stick the baby in hole in the ground filled with rusty sheet metal and no toys and somehow this will make a cure" rebels
post a pic that you will base your armor/look off of
Death Korps of Krieg
>dat coat
>dat 2 tone mask
>dat everything
>>118664281
>forced to play solo
There's an perk set for playing without companions, I think you'll be okay.
>>118664569
Well, it also look like the raider AI when attacking was shit tier.
>>118664661
>I mean turrets
Yes, static defences.
That doesn't guarantee that your village won't just run out to greet the raiders.
My guess is that you'll have to wall the retards in to save them from their own AI.
>>118658137
>It has nothing to do with hardware
PFfftahaha
Some of you profligates are alright. Don't go to Nipton tomorrow if you're in south nevada.
News will reach Novac by tomorrow
.
see you space ghouls
>>118664942
Bethesda has Microsoft's dick in their mouths. It's smart for him not to insult their shitty products.
>>118664942
I find it funny he calls the next gen consoles under powered when, according to Steam user statistics, the majority of PC users have lower specs then the consoles.
>>118665235
What makes you think he's one of them?
>>118665235
Steam is free and has a wide range of available games.
>>118663891
>I hope it'll be possibly to flag your mods so that consolebabies can't use them.
PC Master Race Elitism at it's finest. :^)
>>118665036
Gary... Um, wha? Gary? Gaarry....
>>118663891
>I hope it'll be possibly to flag your mods so that consolebabies can't use them.
just put them on the nexus instead of steam or w/e they'll use
>>118665476
Don't like it? Get a PC ;)
>>118665686
I have one.
>>118665858
Then stop crying Gaylord.
>>118665858
>970
how do you like your gimped graphics card?
>>118665946
AMD shill pls
>>118665946
Not him, but I have a 970 and it's fine. The benchmarks I bought it for haven't gone anywhere. Dick move on nvidia's part though.
>>118665946
It's not so bad. The 3.5GB VRAM thing kinda sucks, but it works well enough.
>>118665946
>still better than amd due to drivers
how does it feel to get cucked so hard
>>118666212
I have a Nvidia card you twit.
>>118664692
Looks dumb.
NCR Rangers are better.
>>118666290
And here comes the damage control.
>>118665946
How do you like using stale memes for technology you don't really understand?
>>118666415
>pointing out you made a baseless assumption is damage control
uh huh
>>118666657
No, I don't want to buy AMD, go shill somewhere else.
>>118666415
Feel free to fire out more jew macro images or whatever the fuck memes.
Feels great to be financially and technologically superior to you.
>>118667117
I said I don't care about AMD, I dont want to buy your shitty cards, fuck off.
>>118667205
Anon, those are dual NVIDIA GTX980s.
>>118664692
World War I uniforms are so fucking cool.
On a related note, I deeply regret image searching "World War I Soldier"
Facial wounds are not pleasant.
>>118667117
>16 gigs of ram
for what purpose?
>>118667251
I keep telling you, I'm not buying your AMD shit so you might as well just leave. Go shill on /g/ or something.
>>118667117
>60C
Why is that one card running so much hotter?
>>118667364
Rendering and editing 4k slow-mo 60fps videos either from in-game captures or off of my go-pro
>>118667434
Because I'm currently playing a shitty unoptimized game that doesn't support SLI, so it just throttles one card, not both.
>>118667556
>Rendering and editing 4k slow-mo 60fps videos either from in-game captures or off of my go-pro
Ok, that makes sense.
>>118667556
>SLI
Isn't that the case for most games? What motivated you to go SLI?
>>118664692
Did you say die for the emperor?
>tfw 1GB 7770
maybe I'll be able to get 30 FPS at very low settings, right guys?
>>118667767
Make the upgrade to AMD™!
>>118667684
^I have this same question.
Most games I know of don't really support SLI.
>>118667767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1es5BzTZE You might need some lube.
I hope my main man Desmond will be in Fallout 4
>>118668037
>>118667767
I had a Core 2 Quad 6600 @ 2.4Ghz, 4GB DDR2 and a 5770, recent games ran just fine. Not maxed out or on high settings, but medium at 1080p run great actually.
Should I go for a GTX 970 or R9 390? 390 is cheaper on my country mind you.
>>118668379
I'd say 970, but I'm an nvidia fanboy. Per https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEiknMpglao they're virtually identical.
>>118663891
You give us PC Fags a terrible name. Hurr durr console babbies. You sound like a 14 year old that just got here. Lurk moar. Please.
>>118668336
Thank you for the answer. That does look great. What kind of work do you do?
>PC gets mods for free
>consoles get access to Bethesda approved mods that are under 150MB, limited to a list of 10, as long as you have paid the $9.99/month subscription fee
post yfw
>>118668830
Mad console fag detected.
>>118668830
>Wanting to get cucked by consolefags
>>118668379
either one works considering the similar output, if you are trying to save money get the cheaper card m8.
also you need more memory
>4gb DDR2
you need 8 total
>>118668960
That was my old rig. I'm on a way better PC now, thank Todd.
>>118669167
For a living, I assumed it was related to the rig since you mentioned video editing and rendering.
>>118669252
Nah, It's my go-to hobby to relax and have fun with. I sometimes film outdoors-y shit and make everything look pretty with 360 pans and whatnot, or film a friend's party, stuff like that, but not in any professional format.
I'm a Botanist / Horticulture expert.
>MFW I can finally mod New Vegas with the sprint mod
>>118668942
No, just a guy with a PC that isn't an asshole. I actually was loved as a child unlike you. It's okay anon, I still love you.
Everyone post their jobs/weekly income
>Customer service rep
>$700 per week
>>118669498
How were you having trouble?
>>118669646
>N/A
>>118669620
Wanting someone else to be happy doesn't make you a cuck. I know life is hard being 14 big guy. But you can do. Okay?
>>118669646
Costumer Serviçe for a Large Clothing Retailer
25 Hours Weekly.
500€I majored in IT...
>>118669646
Account supervisor. $625 a week before they rape me on taxes.
Seriously, I can be the only one that looks at my check every week and thinks of all the money they are taking. I know it's pointless to dwell on, but damn
>>118669646
I work in a supermarket parking lot.
$900 a month, but irregular in that it can be more, or less.
So I've looked vigorously and I can't seem to find a mod that removes the dizzy vision impairment effect that using Fixer gives you.
Do an of you happen to know of a mod that would just remove the visual effect when you take a Fixer?
It's fucking annoying as hell.
>>118669773
New as fuck to dealing with files on PC.
It's all good now.
spent the last 4 days modding the game.
Nothing too demanding though, because toaster.
>>118669951
>raped on taxes
that's how they get you man
fucking shame too.
>>118669797
>I make my wife happy by letting her get fucked by BIG BLACK COCKS while I watch, that doesn't make me a cuck!
lmao okay
Nah fuck consolefags, they're responsible for shit like this.
>>118669951
I do too. I've only been allowed to work overtime on a weekend once and I can see why. Pays like a trip to the Sierra Madre.
>>118670025
I know it! I'm fine with paying them but Jesus leave some meat on the bone for me.
>>118669646
Data Entry Gig
850$ after taxes bi-weeklyAlso got a 2k bonus recently for makine some shitty scripts to make my job easier.
>>118670025
uh... okay...want help? I can make your game run super fast...and you'll be able to add a little more if you like
>>118669646
>Medicinal Marijuana Grower
>28,750$ per week
>>118670000
Winners don't use drugs.
>>118665858
Incredibly similar to my own setup with the exception of the fact that I have a Core 2 Extreme X 9650 @ 3.00 GHz.
Now that I've seen the specs for Fallout 4, I'm wondering if I should fork out for an i7 or keep using the same processor I always have.
>>118670000
Make it yourself faglord.
My memory is a little fuzzy, but that should be attributed to an imagespace modifier. There's a bunch of them, and what they do is create post-processing effects that get called up upon their respective triggers. If you can find that one, there should be a way to remove it or alter it in the GECK.
A year after Fallout 4 releases, what will be the top 5 most downloaded mods on the F4 Nexus?
>>118670069
Not him but
>fuck consolefags they're responsible for shit like this
Well I assumed a knowledgeable PC Master Race anon would realize that MODDERS CAN FIX that on PC
But no you feel the need to be a dick to people on an anonymous Vietnamese papyrus board.
tl;dr stfu
>>118669646
I'm uh... between jobs right now...
>>118670254
I will accept any help you're offering that guy because even with my computer being semi-decent I can't get New Vegas to run well.
>>118670367
A mandatory UI overhaul and 4 unofficial patches for the base game and DLC
>>118670145
Unfortunately I'm salary now. Which isn't bad, I get one week off per month. On top of 20 vacation days. So I can't complain to bad.
>>118670391
>Having to fix things that consoles ruined
>Letting them come in and take my fix
Get fucked.
>>118670367
A mod that removes the critical hit trigger icon. That thing is an eyesore.
>>118669646
>Technician for company that makes mining explosives
>about 900 dollars per week after taxes/benefits.
It's alright. It's mostly travel during the week. Rare occasion where I actually sleep in my own bed.
>>118670523
Hey bud, no need to be harsh. They are just games. Don't have to take them so seriously. We all love you bro.
>>118670523
>implying you can use a FOSE on PS4 and Xbone
>implying a UI fix will be allowed on console without breaking the game on said console without a FOSE
>>118670645
So you're a Powder Ganger
>>118669646
>School bus attendant
>$900 a month
>>118670646
>They are just games. Don't have to take them so seriously
Then you wont mind if you make my mods PC only :)
>>118670695
You eyeballin' me?
>>118670367
>tits
>unlimited PA usage
>hardcore mode, likely coupled with a combat rebalance
>removing all the animated vault boys
>original Nuka-Cola bottle replacer
>>118670691
>Implying Bethesda wont try and instill platform parity on mods, disallowing any mods or third-party software that wont work on consoles
>>118670564
Fucking a-men to that.
>>118670806
>havok physics boobies with '50s belle in the memory den
muh dick
>>118670478
to start take a look at these and download any that seem simple enough to install and then tell me which you need help with.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34832/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45475/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55061/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51871/?
There may be more, just let me know when you're done.note that many of these will likely sacrifice some of your visuals, but believe me it's usually unnoticeable.
>>118670367
BetterDialogueUI
WillowF4 Edition
ModConfigMenu
Shitty Female face retex that came out week 1 so it has the most endorsements
HD Texture pack
>>118670367
I'm willing to bet a fix for the shitty dialog wheel.
>>118670879
>they'll force something on the PC crowd
Remember when we had to pay for Skyrim Mods, Oh wait you don't because that got removed when enough people bitched
Bethesda isn't perfect, but fuck you if you think they could pull that off with absolutely no complaints.
>>118670712
Not at all friend. But let console friends find their own way. No need to drag them down.
>>118671065
>Oh wait you don't because that got removed when enough people bitched
By Valve, not Bethesda.
Bethesda have even said that they're still going to try paid mods again. This time it's going to be on their own Steam-like service so that Valve can't stop them.
>>118669646
Washroom head/supervisor at a commercial laundry.
$684.80 per week pre-tax
Looking at my payslip it still lists me as an assistant despite the fact I've been running it for ~6 months.
>>118671204
If they want mods they can make it themselves.
>>118671219
Nigga they never said anything like that and the removal of the service was in agreement by both companies.
>>118671219
> they're still going to try paid mods again. This time it's going to be on their own Steam-like service so that Valve can't stop them
Citation needed mane
Seriously grasping at straws now
>>118670367
>rick owens
hehe
>>118671427
They talked about Bethesda.net being a content distribution hub during E3. It's probably going to be needed to auth DLC and also serve as a way to distribute mods.
>>118671386
>>118671427
Seriously?
>In an interview with GameSpot , Bethesda exec Pete Hines revisited the Skyrim paid mods controversy and shared some of his plans to give paid mods another shot. However, Hines confirmed that the Skyrim paid mods situation will definitely have to wait until Bethesda ships Fallout 4 , due this November 2015
Source: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/bethesda-plans-revisit-skyrim-paid-mods-after-fallout-4-459131
>Just days after paid mods were introduced to the Skyrim Workshop, Valve pulled them down, saying in a statement, "It's become clear we didn't know exactly what we were doing." Now, Bethesda's Pete Hines, whom you may remember as the featured speaker at the company's first-ever E3 event last month, has shed new light on the situation and what the publisher might do next. Hines would like to see paid mods return, but stopped short of making any promises.
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-talks-skyrims-paid-mods-controversy/1100-6428952/
Straight from the mouth of Pete Hines himself.
>>118671386
They'll open with doom mods, everything hosted and supported through their own service. Then they'll start hosting the mods for their other games. Nothing monetized, all in the name of an improved user experience.
Then the next TES game will go through Beth.net exclusively (like uplay, you can buy it on Steam, but you're really going through Beth.net), and all mods/downloads will go through Beth.net exclusively, with files and load orders managed through the service rather than by the game itself.
And at that time they'll generously offer modmakers the ability to cash in on their hard work.
>>118671650
>it didn't pan out
>we're gonna try it again
Doubt it will be successful.
The only people that'll pay for mods are the console base.
PC users aren't that stupid.
>>118671947
That's probably WHY they're not bringing mods to console, because they know comsolefags will eat it up without question. I never thought console would find a way to ruin mods, but here we are.
>>118671947
You understand that console players are 85% of the market, right? And that also they have a notorious tendency of buying shit, right?
>>118672094
>not bringing mods to console
but they are
>>118667767
Just get a 270X. Right about 140 used from Amazon, and with a good processor it handles everything I've been throwing it's way.
>>118663891
Correct me if im wrong but, by your definition wouldn't other people on the PC who download a mod that, say, you made and then have no intention of making or contributing to mod development, also be leeching? Again by your definition...
As much as I wouldn't pay for mods myself.... I really don't see why people are so butt-devastated that mod makers were given the choice to charge for their mods.
In all other instances were people make something, they are allowed to sell it and make money off of it, but when it comes to mods, people aren't allowed to make money off of the shit they made?
Its a bizarre double standard imo.
>>118672407
Sorry that was a typo, I didn't mean to add the 'not'
I don't know how the fuck I managed that.
>>118672659
If there's one thing I've learned, it's that folks will happily pay 4 dollars for a coffee but freak out if they have to pay 99 cents for a mod.
>>118668887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYt8ebj7xIw
Go to 6:25, he states that PC-made mods are freely transferable to the Xbox One. There will be some limitations in place, obviously, but there's no Bethesdanet account you need
>>118672659
I didn't really care either
it was the fucking split though
>Modder gets 25%
>Valve gets 30%
>Beth gets 40%
>>118665506
>>118672571
It's kind of like a give and take system. PCfags making mods for other PCfags, we make mods for each other or test for each other. Give feedback and so on.
But consolefags wouldn't be making any mods or doing any of the work. Hell, a lot of the mods that PCfags have to make are fixes to problems caused by consoles.
So I'll be fucked if I'm letting consolefags use my mods.
>>118672659
Wasn't there some clause with the whole paid-mods thing that made sure that the modders themselves only received something like 35% of money made? It wasn't a good deal.
>>118665506
>>118672868
Fuck off garyposters. This meme vault is a cancer.
>>118672860
That's actually a fairly common split when selling a derivative work though.
I real the guy who made some zombie game, think it was DayZ or something, explain that's actually a REALLY generous deal in the gaming industry.
>>118672659
For the short time that we had paid mods, everything went to shit. The quality of mods dropped and everything was overpriced.
Retards like you think paid mods will encourage modders to increase the quality and size of their mods, when in reality what happened was the opposite. Everyone half-assed their mods for a quick buck.
>>118669646
Warehouse manager/HVAC technician, 440/wk before taxes with no overtime(which rarely happens)
Living in the South can be kinda shitty, but my monthly bills are only a week and a half of work, and everything else goes towards guns, video games, and doting on my wife.
>>118673070
>Retards like you think paid mods will encourage modders to increase the quality and size of their mods
I don't actually, nice attempt to straw man
>>118672740
>Implying all mods are going to be that cheap
People freak out about it because most mods are shit, and a lot of people run with 100's of mods. Even at 99 cents each that's a few hundreds dollars, but that's just the mods you like. Not counting all the other mods you tried and didn't like.
The Quality of most mods just don't hold up to the standard of being paid DLC and there's no way to tell unless you take a dive and purchase it.
In the short time that Paid Modding was a thing people did run downs of the mods available and the "products" were atrocious. The fishing mod was hilariously buggy and broken, and when it did work it was fucking nothing. And I believe that one was like 7 dollars?
Modders aren't professionals and throwing money into the situation isn't going to increase the professionalism, it's going to increase the mentality for cheap knock offs and traps to make easy money. See: Mobile App stores.
>>118672659
First, they started with an established modding community understood to add value to a game, which comes across as "thanks for the hard work losers, now we're going to take away your toys and sell them to you".
Second, the split that >>118672860 mentions; perfectly legal, very difficult to spin.
Third, people prefer free to not-free; they had nothing they could point to and say "this is what you get in return", BEYOND goodwill towards the modder.
>>118669940
I know that feel. Graduated in MIS and IT, landed a job in HVAC that is half field work and half actually applying my degree.
>>118673137
What guns you got, south-anon?
I'm an ausfag so I'm obviously interested in these things.
>>118672659
It would quite literally reward devs laziness/incompetence.
>>118673267
>"thanks for the hard work losers, now we're going to take away your toys and sell them to you".
Except no one took anything away from you, as you still had access to the mods you had already downloaded.
>very difficult to spin.
Theres nothing to spin because its the same deal used everywhere else in the industry, and everyone else has been fine with it.
>Third, people prefer free to not-free
I would like to get all my food, clothes cars, houses, and everything else for free, but the world doesn't work that way.
>tfw this general is comfy for once
>>118673627
It's just a calm before the storm.
This thread is going to be a mess on November 10th
>>118673289
From left to right:
Marlin 60 - .22LR
Ruger 10/22 - .22LR
Martini & Rossin Target - .22LR
Pardner Pump Protector - 12 Gauge
WASR 10/63 - 7.62x39
Beretta U22 Neos - .22LR
SCCY CPX-2 - 9mm Luger
Norinco 213 - 9mm Luger
>>118673586
I'm not presenting these as valid arguments, I'm noting these are common objections they completely failed to overcome. They'll address them on the next pass.
>>118673714
>This thread is going to be a mess on November 10th
>going to the thread on Atomic Day
>>118670712
I mean, they shouldn't mind. Its what they have had all along anyway for 99.9% of every other console game until now. Im sure they wont mind another like that.
Ether that or we could try this crazy thing called progress which requires new ideas and innovations and moves us forward....
>>118673796
Ohh, nvm then.
>>118673714
As soon as the game is out in the wild I am staying as far the fuck away from any Fallout discussion as I can until I'm done with the MQ.
>>118673887
Oh I'm not going to be here. No way. I'm not letting some /v/irgin spoil the ending for me.
I'm just saying this thread WILL go fucking nuclear. And not in a fun way.
>>118673967
Good policy. I might pop in to do an unboxing of my CE if no one else has bothered, while I'm installing the game, but that's it.
>>118673967
>>118674045
Damn right. You won't be able to hold a conversation then anyway, it'll all be going too fast. Threads will die within the hour.
>>118673967
this
you know theres gonna be that one asshole that maxes out their SPECIAL via the console and rushes through the games main story in order to spoil the fucking ending(s)
>>118674186
I'd put money on one of the scene groups cracking the pre-load. Might have to bail out pre-release if that happens.
>>118674045
>I'm just saying this thread WILL go fucking nuclear. And not in a fun way.
Yep. I think I won't open up 4chan at all. Close all possible avenues of info off.
>>118673586
If paid mods are so good, why so many prominent modders, like Fores, the SKSE and SureAI teams, Trainwiz, among many others, opposed it?
>>118674346
Some retailer will fuck up the street date and consoles will start playing a few days early. Maybe even the strategy guide. Happens on every release.
>>118673730
That Norinco is sexy. Reminds me of a Tokarev.
>>118670367
Loli mod
Rape mod
Player Home mod
Body replacer
Script extender
>>118674186
They'll go through the videos on the preload or just watch some streamer on twitch speedrun his way through it. Most of the times the people spoiling it have no interest in playing the game themselves.
