What's your excuse for not playing Dwarf Fortress right now?
>>337531075
drawing DF fanart
taking a horrible dump
I only just got into this game.
I can't tell if my fucking dwarves are doing what they're told. They just run back and forth, eat then sleep.
Pisses me the fuck off when they eat the last of the mushrooms. And the migrants are worse, they just fucking sit there not putting their vital skills to good use. They don't even help carry shit back to the storages.
Then the fucking goblos decide to overrun the shit hole (literally just build my fort under the dirt) so I have to end it in a blaze of glory by using my last miner dwarf to open up a wall to an aquifer and drown everything.
Great game nonetheless.
I can't get into it no matter how much I try
I try to follow the tutorials but still can't get past the most basic digging step
>>337531075
2deep4me
>>337531075
i'm playing overwatch instead
I'm not tired enough to sleep, but I'm too tired to play dwarves. Haven't gotten a siege in the longest while and the game has kind of stagnated into "put more traps outside the front door" and i've run out of new things to do
I don't have the attention span to learn all the game mechanics, so I never got into it
CAGE TRAPS FUCKING BREAK THE GAME.
>>337531075
I tried once, and came to the conclusion that I am actually illiterate.
Which is a shame, since I want to try that Space Pirate Fortress mod.
>>337531075
It's visually displeasing.
>>337531075
Haven't played in 2 years and I'm dreading re-learning everything over again. Any big changes since then?
autism grinding in elona
>>337532374
I jumped back in after not playing for four years and I didn't have to re learn anything, just the new mechanics.
>>337531075
Busy watching no rules SS13 on vgstation
>>337531075
My attention span is too short, I'm too dumb, it's too hard.
played for a while after this recent update so I'm waiting for the next to play more, god bless Toady
>>337532374
The 2 major updates you missed focused mostly on adventure mode shenanigans.
First gave adv mode world activation (shit actually happens in the world while you play) and the dialog overhaul.
The other update, released a few days ago, adds the ability to actually cut down trees and build shit in adv mode.
If you dont care about adv mode, then you haven't missed too much. Just minor changes and updates to fort mode.
share your dorf stories, /v/
>>337531075
At a certain point in time I realized the game itself wasn't very hard and most of the challenge was wrestling with the UI and knowing all the weird psuedo-bugs/exploits.
Because I've played enough Dwarf Fort, I'm trying to git gud at Cataclysm DDA
>>337535042
the trick is to spend the first few days working on tailoring. there, that's basically all you need to know.
>>337535281
Yeah, I've got decent clothes most of it (fits) and I'm not too hot/cold/encumbered. I've got a little base going on the outskirts of a city and a car built out of tape. I'm currently cruising around looking for a welder, I want to build a proper vehicle I can live out of, having a static base kind of sucks.
>>337531891
More
>>337536653
>>337535042
>>337535874
Are you at the latest version? You can find welders or acetylene torches in garages or public works buildings.
I fucking love that game. Shits fun as hell when you first start out, but I tend to get bored once I become an invincible machete murder god with an RV and run out of interesting things to do.
i spent months a few years ago learning dorf fort and i got good at it
then i stopped playing for a year or two now i remember nothing and am too impatient to learn it all over again
feels bad man dot jay peg
>>337531075
I don't know, every time I genuinely give it a shot it never really clicks for me. It's not even that's difficult to play, I just lose interest with it.
>>337537135
I downloaded the launcher and I'm playing an experimental build 3 or 4 days old. I've been though a few garages but no welders yet, so I've had to get by with duct tape.
This is the first time I've actually sat down and tried to learn the game, only been going at it for a couple days, but it's loads of fun.
whos got df art?
>>337537812
I've never survived to the first goblin raid, I usually get bogged down by how many fucking dorfs show up/are born and sort of lose interest because I have to spend most of my time building more accommodations for them and bossing them around. But I was never good at the game to begin with.
>>337537802
Public works tend to spawn just outside the edges of towns if you don't manage to find a garage with either a welder or an acetylene torch.
You could also craft a makeshift welder too, if you have really shitty luck. They take up more batteries then a regular welder, but if you can find an electronics store batteries won't be much of an issue.
>>337538396
That was the hardest part of learning dwarf fort for me. The first couple migrant waves were fine, 3 or 4 extra dwarves each, great. Then the 3rd wave would come and its 25 dwarves, I would get overwhelmed and just stop playing.
It gets easier. Set a couple migrants to make rock crafts, set some up as masons making pots and doors on repeat, and a ton of the dwarves will just keep themselves busy hauling rocks. It's fine to have the dwarves live in a communal room until you have enough bedrooms.
>created magma pump stack
>try to make an above ground heated water tower
>temp doesn't work above ground apparently
why even bother? my fortress is crawling in FPS too at this point I think I should just make a new one in a more evil area cause this shit is too easy at this point.
>>337531873
There are two ways of knowing if your dwarves are being useful. If you want to know whether they're pulling their weight right at that instant, check the "idlers" button in the top of the screen, which tells you how many units are currently unoccupied. If you want to know what jobs are being done/not done, check the Jobs screen.
The most basic way of dealing with gobbos is
1) build a fortress in a place with rocks
2) dig your fortress into the rock (d>d>click the rock you want dug)
3) build a mechanic's workshop and give one of your dwarves the mechanic job (press b>w>t and place)
4) give the mechanic some time to operate, he will use the rocks you dug out of the mountain to build Mechanisms
5) after a while has passed, (b>T>s) to place a bunch of stonefall traps anywhere where you think the goblins will pass through, preferably at your cave entrance. Your dwarves will load the traps with stones, and if a goblin passes through a stonefall trap they'll take considerable damage
spam a bunch of those and you should be pretty safe from low level sieges without even needing a military
>>337531075
I'm working on my thesis. I would like to pass.
>>337537064
>Shit that never happened
When's Toady gonna integrate Therapist into DF? I haven't played in a long time but no one deserves the torture of unassisted dorf management.
>>337531891
That's inspiring.
>>337542669
Not him but I've seen the same story on the forums, just can't find it right now. and the "melting the fat away" part was once entirely possible (due to the way fat melting temperature works), same goes for the animals part (having to constantly dodge animals makes a dwarf become a master Dodger who is extremely difficult to hit)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=92907.0
>>337542815
I got along without it for 3 years. Playing using only a mouse. Git gud
>>337543160
>Git autistic
Nah thanks.
>>337543226
if you wanted to avoid autism you wouldn't be on this board, in this thread
therapist is a luxury and can wait, i wanna see army arcs instead of making things easier for casuals
>>337543559
>if you wanted to avoid autism you wouldn't be on this board, in this thread
Or I use therapist instead of the retarded ingame system.
>>337543679
My point is that the ingame system is tolerable, we don't NEED therapist in basegame.
Other things need adding first, including army expeditions. I have a huge fucking army and nothing to do with it but sit and wait for a titan to show up.
>>337531075
shit UI
waiting for clockwork empires to get off early access
>>337543863
oh god I hope that when he gets them working we actually get to control our dudes out in the field raiding villages and shit instead of just sending dudes off the map for a few seasons
>>337531075
can't be asked to learn
just too busy plotting out my rapid expansion of the dwarf civs using aboveground forts.
>>337532338
>there's a Space Pirate mod
Does it add Phazon? I want to make science.
Because every time I run a fort, the time and energy gets distributed by:
80% trying to optimize the fort, making plans, designing blueprints, and micro-managing Dorf roles,
15% trying to experiment and find out just what the fuck thing X, Y, and Z are for and whether it's actually useful or not, and
5% of actually running the fort.
And just when I make some progress, a new update comes out or my fort gets assraped by some unforeseen variable that I didn't or couldn't account for, and I DO. NOT. HAVE. TIME. to deal with that shit right now.
Pic related, a visual example of how things usually go.
>>337543559
>i wanna see army arcs instead of making things easier for casuals
This. UI improvements are a waste of time. There's a ton of shit to get done. Deal with it, casuals.
>>337544030
I hadn't even thought that far. Being able to teleport to a battle in progress where your troops are, and leave an elven civilization as a burning pile of ashes, would be fucking amazing.
>>337544071
You obviously couldn't be arsed typing "arsed" correctly, either. Get the fuck out, mobile poster.
because its actually really boring
cause i'm playing aurora
The payoff for the massive amount of work put it in not worth it.
Because imposing order is tedious, can't the little shits work out how this fortress should be used and get on with it?
>>337544674
I like that gif.
W-would you teach me s-senpai
>>337547479
Solid. Not as good as Reinhammers, though.
http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4062-reinhammers
>>337547846
What do you want to know?
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
>>337547934
When the first floor I see is a skull emblazoned on the ground, I know we have different goals.
I'm just trying to make fortresses with very little mined space so my processor doesn't cry so much, and I like to keep them on one floor so I can always see all the inhabitants and invaders. The pretty shapes are just a side effect of me trying to cram all this stuff together.
>>337548081
I'd buy handheld dwarf fortress and put it next to my Bloodborne box.
>>337547479
>all that dacite, native gold, and galena just lying around
clean that shit up, anon
>>337531075
>autism simulator
>game
Sometimes you just need a break.
>>337548081
>implicating consoles would be capable of running DF
>much less handhelds
>>337548357
I got it to run on a Raspberry Pi, just need to generate a world on a computer then you're set
>>337548280
Not my job m8, tell the haulers to stop using the wheelbarrows as an excuse.
>>337548357
I think a DS would be able to handle it if the dwarf population was capped at, like, 50 on a pocket-sized world in a pocket-sized embark zone. Would be kinda comfy. You could keep the HUD on the bottom screen, and the dorfs on the top screen.
>>337548456
But fort mode melts cpus as soon as you get a few dozen+ dorfs
>>337548237
>that pit leading to the other side
You going for a Microsoft Excel look bro?
>>337532567
>tfw they shut down servers
>no more death messages
>no more getting fucked because you chose the wrong player house to visit
>>337535039
This, the fun part of DF is learning how to play it, once you're competent all the challenge disappears.
Too retarded/lazy to learn so I stick with adventure mode
>>337546937
>You obviously couldn't be arsed typing "arsed" correctly, either.
britbong pls
>>337548820
>once you're competent all the challenge disappears
not true, unless you're a trapspammer (df's version of easy mode), you embarked in a world/island with low savagery and low civilization count, or you're trying to keep your wealth low, there is a hell of a lot of difficulty to be found
if you want challenge as a competent player try embarking in a "terrifying evil" biome, or a desert, or an aquifer, or a frozen tundra, ordig deeper
then tell me "all the challenge has disappeared" when your dwarves are dying from strangulation caused by indestructible undead llama hair
>>337549118
Yeah getting started in those biomes can be rough, but after that you'd have to intentionally skip safety measures to get into situations like that.
How difficult is it to organise a military now? The last time I played was maybe 5 years ago.
>>337549118
been there, done those
either you get wiped out by undead at the start or you manage to get underground and it's mostly normal from there on out.
stuff reanimating when you butcher it is a hassle, so you have to throw animals down a pit or atom smash them, and mostly survive on veg and fish, but it's certainly something you can deal with
I find aquifers more helpful than annoying, to be honest
an above-ground fort in one of those environments might be difficult, but i found the main problem with above-ground stuff was just how much material you need to build even small stuff
>>337550446
Material is less of a problem if you have some dwarves making wood or stone blocks nonstop. They're way lighter than raw materials and three times as efficient, if I remember right. Also worth more money.
>Play fortress mode
>Nothing interesting ever happens
>Play adventure mode
>Always start in what seems to be a gigantic maze of a fortress or underground cavern
>>337532374
Fort mode has work orders and dwarfs now have personalities that actually affects their happiness.
Adventure mode lets you build houses and get fps raped by the world being alive.
>>337551374
back when I played, it was one wood plank per log, and I felt digging down to use stone would defeat the purpose of being above-ground
clay and glass are effectively infinite if you have them, but unless you fancy a house made of raw clay, you're still gonna need 1 wood for each brick that you produce
I did enjoy kobold camp, though
>>337551649
>and dwarfs now have personalities that actually affects their happiness.
How does that work?
>>337551731
You want blocks, not planks.
Those are a thing unless I'm dreaming shit up.
>>337551801
stone gets turned into blocks, wood gets turned into planks
They're basically the same thing in terms of usage other than that you only get one plank per wood
Hung over, haven't slept, pierced hell thrice last month
the usual
>>337551738
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Personality_trait
explains it better than I can
post infographs
It crashes on world gen every time :c
>>337552286
I have a toaster PC and I am able to make medium sized worlds and not crash ever
>>337552008
Thanks
>>337550334
Quite. I still haven't got the hang of it, either.
I just see no depth to this game. Its hard to learn because UI is ass, but there's just not much to do. You built a fort and organise basic needs, then monsters start rushing you in waves. Thats it, thats the game. There's no diplomacy, science, combat, political intrigue, economy, colonization - you know, the things that make strategy games complex and interesting. You build a fort and then fuck around with levers and physics, about as fun as 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 sandbox games out there
>>337553362
>I just see no depth to this game
>>337553362
The game has all of those things other than science.
It also has many things that no other game has like a fucking system of CULTURE with poetry, music, dance etc evolving in different civilizations in different styles.
>>337553362
>Complaining that a city building game relies on the player to be creative for it to be fun
Also there's plans for all that shit, the game is still in mid-early alpha.
>>337553362
>No depth
Please name another fucking game the generates entire worlds where every individual creature is kept track of from their personalities and interests to their skin and amount of fingers on their hand.Besides maybe URR
>>337553687
>generates entire worlds where every individual creature is kept track of from their personalities and interests to their skin and amount of fingers on their hand.
How does it make the GAME deep? Do you even know what depth is?
Chess is deep. Chess doesn't generate entire worlds down to butthole hair of every creature
>>337553804
But maybe it should.
>>337553804
Like >>337553606 said, it's a city building game that's barely in the middle stages of being an alpha. What were you expecting?
>>337553804
That sounds like something a lowly pawn with no butthole hair would say.
>>337531075
because only weirdos play df
>>337553804
>Chess is deep
Alright, why is that? Because its parts allow the players to access a very wide variety of strategies to combat each other, to the point where the perfect strategy still hasn't been "solved" even with extremely powerful computers.
Dwarf Fortress is similar; you just need a fucking imagination. There are huge amount of things you can do with the tools provided. Saying DF is without depth smacks of a guy who wants shit handed to him on a platter, and that's not the audience this game is looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2cMHwo3nAU
Finally I'm going to emphasise this is anALPHA.
>>337553908
>it'll be totally awesome in like 30 years, man
Ok, I'll mark it on my calendar
>>337553804
Chess is deep on a competitive based level. DF is a single player game so your comparison is lacking considering a SP game would have the complexities of its mechanics judged along with the learning curve to obtain a measurement for a virtual quantity like depth. Though we should stop getting derailed.
>The more shit Toady adds to the game the harder it'll be for him to make it multi threaded in the future
I'm not playing DF right now because it has a really bad interface. Not even talking about the ASCII, just the layout of the menus and the controls.
>>337531075
My buddy drowned because I didn't realize he couldn't swim.
Didn't make it back to town before I was killed by bogeyman.
>>337531075
After about 100 residents or so my toaster can't handle it and slows down. I've never even gotten an economy running before.
What I'm wondering is.. where are the fucking guns in Dwarf Fortress? They have all the technology to do it.
>>337552250
>>337556040
I'm sure the Toadinator will add something along those lines eventually. For now, though, there's so much other stuff to add before expanding into technological ages further than early medieval.
I'm fucking burnt out.
Yea sure its always random, but i really just played to the point of full boredom.And i still don't know how to use minecarts
>>337556496
you can build farms on constructed floors?
I haven't liked df a whole lot since whatever update made armies actually travel across the map, as all that translated into my games was 1/8 the sieges and ambushes over the years with 1/4 the goblins per encounter. Sure, you can embark in an evil biome but that only stays fresh for so long. I miss the bad ass orcs mod.
I'm too dumb to even play regular RTS games, let alone Dorf Fort.
It's actually a shit game that's way too easy. It is the literal definition of artificial difficulty by having a shit UI, the actual gameplay is easy as fuck
I got burned out on df and am playing a bit of Rimworld.
DF is still the king, and always will be, but Rimworld can be fun.
>>337559356
>Rimworld
Been thinking about getting this
Would I be right in thinking that it gets way too easy once you're past the early game? Or do the storytellers keep it challenging even later on?
>>337559429
It actually gets retarded hard later on, depending on difficulty
>>337559538
Sweet
Does the dev deserve the 30$ or do I pirate?
>>337559965
The dev is okay. Updates are somewhat infrequent and he recently took a long break before releasing alpha 13 though so keep that in mind.
Also, if you buy it now you will NOT get it on steam when it goes there. Apparently he's forbidden from selling steam keys before they exist. Why he doesn't just go on steam as an early access title is anyone's guess.
>>337559538
I can confirm this. On Rough and above raiders will fucking demolish you if you don't build right, and sieges will buttfuck you even if you do build right.
>>337531075
I already played it to death.
>>337560472
>Also, if you buy it now you will NOT get it on steam when it goes there
Wait what
Welp, that's a pirate then
>>337561378
Yeah I pirated it too, I don't blame you.
>>337553804
No, chess is complex
I tried playing it but all it did is generate world for like half hour while eating cpu like crazy. I assumed it's bitcoin miner and deleted it.
>>337562171
>he made a large world with long history
the absolute madman
>>337560472
>Also, if you buy it now you will NOT get it on steam when it goes there. Apparently he's forbidden from selling steam keys before they exist. Why he doesn't just go on steam as an early access title is anyone's guess.
Factorio did this though
minimum 750 years for healthy chance for vampires
>>337564448
jks on u my fort be rockin vampires right nao lm'ao
SQUAD HOLD POSITION AND FORCED MOVE/RETREAT FUCKING WHEN TOAAAAAAAAAADY
I am playing adventure mode.
