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seriously: fuck this boss

why does this game need to cater towards "muh hardcore gamers"?

do you think there are some people for whom bosses like this are just out of the question since we actually have jobs and dont have all day to perfect our "1337 dark souls 3 skillzorz"?

fucking pathetic that this is what gaming has come to nowadays
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Is this seriously turning into a meme?

Sure, I'll bite I guess, just in case you're serious:

He is designed to teach you the basics of all bossfights:

>arena settings
>chain of attacks with an obvious gap to attack or heal
>has multiple ways to beat him (ranged, melee dodging, parrying, items etc.)
>some attacks can just be out-ranged or walked under
>has two very noticeable phases
>has visual, and sometimes audible, queues for attacks

Keep going and you'll beat him as well as obtain knowledge and skill for future bosses.

Seriously though, Iundex is a good tutorial boss, he has nothing on Gascoigne.
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It was a very odd choice for a first boss.

It felt like the developers assumed no one new was ever going to play this game.

It changing into a giant monster is fine, but it should have been way slower so new players could learn from it.
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git
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>>334336824
Gascoigne is pretty easy to cheese and feels kinda cheap because of it.

Cant say much for the first boss of ds3 since I beat him on my first try. Kinda felt like dumb luck since I barely even remember the fight or his attack pattern at all.
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>>334336824
When I beat him the fight felt pretty fair until he transformed into faggot mode. Doesn't help that you run into the faggot mode transformation in regular enemies after this fight. Although they are easily avoided one way or another.

I actually had more trouble with the fucking Lothric Knights you encounter after a little bit.
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>>334336872
It's actually quite considerate to new players putting that super-early casual filter in. It means they will have encountered it and had a chance to butt against it several times well before Steam's two-hour refund window is up, so those that decide the game isn't for them can refund.
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>>334336872
its still pretty slow most attacks are in a pattern or telegraphed greatly just abuse i frames with dodges
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>>334337374
>muh transformation is 2hard meme
It's so telegraphed though, second he transforms you hug his crotch and he cant attack you unless he does his stomp ability
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OP I got the game an hour ago and beat this boss in one go, why do you blow?

I'd still be playing if it WASN'T CRASHING EVERY TIME
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>>334337374
what is up with that black stuff anyway? What is it supposed to be?
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>>334336258
>That isn't the Champ version

B o y
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>>334337732
I'd assume the same shit Aldrich is made out of
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>>334337732
Bloodborne
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>>334336258
like everyone else will say, get gud, I beat him with a club.
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>>334336258
Holy shit.

Neo- /v/ tries Dark Souls

These threads are gold.
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>>334336258
if your having troubles with Gundyr as a knight then it's time to refund the game. What's the time window for refunding on steam nowadays?
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a camera boss as the tutorial boss did seem dumb to me
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>>334337595
It has a fucking long reach and is just obnoxious to fight.

>>334337732
No idea, some sort of corruption I guess.
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>>334336258
More games need a casual filter at the start.

Git. Gud. Or fuck off and die.
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>>334337848
you are easily had.
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>>334336258
>losing as knight
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>>334337235
Iundex can be cheesed as well with firebombs, but that's not the point

If you just fight him properly, meaning, the way you plan to play the game and establish your playstyle there, you will beat him and learn. Applies both to Iundex and Gascoigne

>>334337374
It's made to confuse you, it's really nothing special and the attacks work exactly the same as any other enemy's but with fancy and creepy movements
If you just think of each attack it does as any regular enemy attack it becomes fairly simple
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>>334337904
>No idea, some sort of corruption I guess.
>>334337796
>I'd assume the same shit Aldrich is made out of
So the game never actually explains it?

Fantastic.
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>>334336258
>killed him in one go with assassin
I don't even usually wave my e dick but this is just sad
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>>334336258
dude just hit him with ranged attacks
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>>334336258
You have to suck seriously bad to have trouble on him
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>>334337546
How would a new player know to do this?

You have to think of this boss from a new player perspective.

His first form should have been stupid easy. It's his monster transformation that should be tough.
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>>334337732
darkned souls
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This meme is getting old.
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>>334337930
Oh no, you got me. I spent the last 5 minutes laughing for nothing!
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>>334338010
>Souls game
>Explaining things
Pick only one

It is very clear that it's the product of the Deep though, many other things get corrupted and controlled by it, even dragons

Haven't finished the game myself yet, but gathered that much
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>>334338017
the thrusting sword the assassin starts with destroys this boss. The only class that has a hard time against him is probably thief
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HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT PONTIFF
I CAN GET HIM DOWN TO HALF BUT THEN OH BOY THERE'S TWO OF HIM, ENJOY LITERALLY NO WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY

FUCK
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>literally first time fighting abyss watchers, one shot him
>mfw im a 1337 dark souls 3 skillzorz
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Yo, I know this is a thread where scrubs reign, and I'm no scrub.

But fuck THIS boss actually. I've tried to fight him like 15 times at this point and his moveset is so ridiculous. And if you actually manage to get close to killing him, he just spawns another one of himself and you're basically guaranteed to die.

Fuck this boss, I'm doing optional areas for a while.
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>>334337969
Gascionge kicked my ass many times but it was probably the best way to get the player into the mindset of how they will have to play to progress.

I wish BB had more weapons and stuff at launch though because it was an interesting game but the lack of variety kinda sucked
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>>334338240
He's not meant to be fought up close at that point, you just have to keep your distance and bait him and his clone into doing their jump attack on you, and roll/strafe right to dodge it, then get one or two hits in depending on your weapon speed, and back out / repeat. It takes a while but it's a guaranteed win
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>>334336258
This boss is so fucking easy that only a retard couldn't beat him. The next one is the casual filter.
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>>334338467
see >>334338510
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>>334338510
He has only ever used the jump on me when I first enter the room. Also every time I dodge it and try to counter attack he dodges, he dodges every single time.

I have also never once survived the combo where he puts the two swords above his head in an X. I've done shieldless armorless playthroughs of every souls game up till this point but I can't fucking dodge every hit of that combo. Also he has a million health.
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>>334338593
>The next one
That's the big stompy frost knight right?
I thought he was pretty easy, just get between his legs like every other 4-legged boss.
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>>334338467
>I'm no scrub
>stuck on Pontiff
Make sure to clear those optional areas good, buddy
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>>334338094
His first form is stupid easy. Even if you don't know about i-frames you can block most of his attacks and he has huge windows where you can get hits in.

Iudex Gundyr is stupid easy.
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>>334336872
>It felt like the developers assumed no one new was ever going to play this game.
Who the fuck starts a series on the third game? The only excuse is that if it's something that had a long ass gap or a notoriously bad sequel (see: Deus Ex)
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>>334338770
better get used to magical-sword-flourish bosses because you'll be fighting like 4 more of them.
You can trigger him into alternating between pretty much just jump and his ranged attacks by running to the other side of the room.

I feel your pain though, it took me a long time to beat him as well.
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>>334338094
>How would a new player know to do this?
By learning

New players need to learn what i-frames are and how they work

If they don't learn it during this fight, the rest of the game will be impossible for them
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I can't tell if this is typical /v/ shitposting, or if people really had trouble with this boss
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>>334338094
most classes start with a fucking shield which is an intentional crutch to be used until you learn that rolling is a dodge mechanic
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>>334339060
I really don't mind bosses like this. I like dodging through sword swipes. It's just that his combos never seem to end and almost all of them don't give me a long enough window between attacks to hit him. I'm using the Great Scythe and since I'm two handing it's pretty average speed. I'll try keeping more distance on him I guess.

It wouldn't be so bad if the run back wasn't this retarded.
>Those fire guys that spew out the magic bullshit ground fire
>Hits a wall and disappears
>Somehow appears from off screen in the opposite direction of the source 15 seconds later
>Can hit you through the fog door

Ya okay
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the game isn't even hard FUCK I'M SICK OF THESE FUCKING THREADS MEMEING OR NO FUCK OFF ALREADY
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>>334339216
Seems to me to be shitposting, I don't know anybody who took more than one try to beat Iudex that actually played the past games, and anyone who hasn't learns pretty quickly.

Fucking Pontiff though. Fuck.
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>>334339385
dark souls 3 is literally the hardest souls game

show us some webms of you styling on the bosses if you're so good
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>>334336258
>Posting the fake Gundyr

Just wait till you fight the real one. He is an aggressive motherfucker.
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>>334338285
>People bitch orphan on kos is impossible on Bloodborne
>Kill him my first try blind

This fucking board has the worst shitters I've seen

No wonder there angry all the time they suck.
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>>334336824
why do you need to learn the basics of boss fights three games into the series?
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this thread perfectly encapsulates what happens to a board when a bunch of people pretend to be stupid over a long period of time - it eventually attracts the real stupid ones.

shame.
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>>334336258
Beat it second try with lowest tier class anon. I'm not even good and I have the webms to prove it.
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>>334339324
there's a door between the boss fog and the church bonfire down the left set of stairs facing the boss fog. just gotta fight two dancer enemies and some hags instead
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>>334337905
Hows the creative writing class in highschool anon if it produced you it must surely still have its
>edge
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>>334339493

>That cheeky fucking kick of his

It doesn't help that i'm played at like 10 fps with drops.
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>>334339324
use a faster weapon then you tit
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>>334339247
They've nerfed shields so much over the years I don't know why people still say this. Trying to block most boss's attacks is suicidal. Some you may get to negate one hit of but you're out of stamina and stunned for 10 hours so you're just going to get killed anyway.
Honestly shields are only useful for smaller enemies and projectiles.

>>334339623
What the one where you open the gate? That's the one I've been using. There's a fire guy standing in the corner on that path.
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>>334339623
you can just sprint past them
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>>334336258
Are people really having trouble with this boss?
>Still in Bloodborne mode
>Die once because lolBloodborne
>Beat him a second time without barely raising my shield because I lolBloodborne-dodged all of his attacks
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>>334339553
Because some people didn't play the first two games...

Like, that's not exactly a tough thing to realize man.
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>>334339606
>starts with club
>lowest tier

shiggyniggy
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>>334339553
Boy anon I assume it is because maybe not everyone would have started with DS1
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>>334336258
>why does this game need to cater towards "muh hardcore gamers"?

Because there should be at least one game on the market that appeals to my demographic.
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>>334339720
>that kick
>that shoulder slam
>his relentless swinging

Honestly the funnest fight so far. Wish I could fight him again.
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>>334339796
I'm pretty sure a shield works fine on Iudex Gundyr, which invalidates the argument that new players won't know to roll to dodge attacks due to it giving you ample time to learn how the mechanics work.
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>>334339856
>>334339897

>want to get into the dark souls series
>better start with 3!
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>>334339606
>Deprived
>Lowest Tier
>Not Mercenary

I found Mercenary to be the worst if only because he's got slashing weapons at a time when the first two bosses are heavily armored.
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Do pirated saves work with the steam version?
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>>334339796
Funny enough Pontiff is the one boss that does shit stamina damage to blocks

>What the one where you open the gate?
There's a second shortcut that leads to a gate on the level above the mob I think you're talking about. Lets you get to the boss by the bonfire in the church/chapel
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>>334339796
>Some you may get to negate one hit of but you're out of stamina and stunned for 10 hours so you're just going to get killed anyway

this is 100% wrong and it tells me you have no idea how to play the game. take a 100 shield with 70+ stability and do the dancer fight..it makes it completely trivial. shields are still way too OP.
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>second half he literally quadruples his size and does large laboring swings so you can easily get in
>people still have trouble

what are you even doing?
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>>334336258
the guy with the Uchi is harder
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>>334339856
Those people are irrelevant. DS3 should start at hard difficulty and get harder as it goes on.
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>>334340004
Deprived has the worst stat spread for a starting class.
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>>334340083
It kind of does, Iudex Gundyr is definitely harder than the Asylum demon and people are shitting their pants over Abyss Watchers and Pontiff which you only really saw before with O&S/AotA bosses/Fume Knight.
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>>334338152
You spent the last 5 minutes laughing at a post on /v/, are you alright?
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>>334340083
go back to mario romhack general
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>>334340023
Most likely.
I've been able to backup/restore saves.
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>>334339897
>making this argument with dark souls
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>>334338814
>>I thought he was pretty easy, just get between his legs like every other 4-legged boss.

are you fucking kidding me? thats such a gyp man i wanted to figure out the bosses myself but that is seriously some shitty design if its easy to kill bosses by staying between their legs
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>>334339964

Really disappointed that they didn't bring back some form of bonfire ascetic.

Or this dorky idea I just had.

>Boss bonfires have an extra option to revive the boss
>You are charged the amount of souls that the boss gives for this so you can't farm for infinite levels like in DaS2 with the Giant Lord

I'd kill for a practice mode for some of the bosses honestly.
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>>334340090
Maybe I'm retarded buy I've always found starting equipment far more important than starting stats...I've done Barbarian/Deprived runs on the first three games and you're only gimped until you can start finding/buying better equipment.
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>>334339982
>you're not allowed to play Skyrim unless you've beaten ES Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion in that order
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So we all know OP is joking because Iudex Gundyr is so easy to kill he's a fucking joke.

But why? Why is this guy so fucking easy? He's like the easiest boss in any Souls game. First bosses in souls games are usually 10x more challenging than this nignog.

The only explanation I can think of is FromSoft simply does not care at all about Dark Souls III and they just rushed this shit out as fast as they could. There is simply no other explanation why they would make a boss this fucking easy to defeat.
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>>334339975
I was mostly just commenting in general.

>>334340024
Maybe I'll grab a better shield then. I'll look for the short cut too, thanks.

>>334340025
Maybe it's because I used a Purple Flame Shield In Demon's Souls and some other great shields in DaS1, then no shield in DaS2. I'm using a dragoncrest shield now so it has much lower stability. I've just been noticing a lot more shields that don't block 100 physical, then with the addition of "back"stabs on shield breaks, etc.
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>>334340272
Starting equipment doesn't mean jack shit and the best stat spread class in the game for melee also starts with one of the best starting weapons (knight).
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>>334340275
Thats actually correct, you'll get visibly ill actually seeing what they did to the series once you start playing
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>>334336258
Is this a new shitposting maymay? Or are people seriously having difficulty with this guy?
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>>334337763
Champion gundar is fucking awesome, I lovedd the way gundar was designed so stumbling on the champ was sweet.
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>>334339982
Or, you know, just play whichever one you want to play first.
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>>334340329
He's easy because it's impossible to level before fighting him, shitters had to get through him somehow without over-leveling and grinding.

That's what I think anyway.
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>>334340260
sorry for the spoilers mate, but yeah if it's a Soul's boss and it has 4 legs just always try to stand right between their rear legs. They'll usually have 1 move to counter that so just watch for it.
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>>334340275

>i wanted to play mass effect, so i started with 3

Are you one of these retards?
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Is going to 40 STR worth it for only a +1 to all stats, including attack power? I have a heavy weapon but how much will 1 point effect it? Should I just chill at 39?
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>>334339982
>implying thousands of idiots didnt do just this
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>>334338175
The Deep and the Abyss are two different things, right?
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>>334340329
b8, desu
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>>334340275
Ngote i taku raho
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>>334340481
The Deep is related to the Abyss but not the same. It seems to be an effect of things getting more and more chaotic due to the first flame being kindled despite it being against the natural order.
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Did anyone else have trouble with iudex? I actually had trouble figuring out when to dodge on some of his attacks - I'd always start to early, just as his animation was starting, but then the attack wouldn't launch until right after my roll finished. Plus, his tracking was pretty great for a first boss.
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Is this a meme?

He's like the easiest first boss, he barely has any health.
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>>334340394
>doesn't mean jack shit
>a 10 intelligence character with a soul ray and wand and nothing else is worse than a sorcerer with 16 intelligence and no soul ray or wand.

No anon, it doesn't mean shit. The classes have better stats for the equipment they carry sure, but the equipment is far more important unless you just don't have the stats for it. Mercenary blows because they get a slashing weapon and then low and behold the toughest enemies are heavily armored. Fuck everything the merc has, gimme the club.

As time goes on you're right, simply because you'll find everything you need to make the character you want. Starting class has very little bearing on end game.
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>>334340448
At a certain point leveling a stat gives you diminishing returns. Hell, with the Chloranthy Ring and Grass Crest Shield on my back I never run out of Stamina. It's all up to you; do you put that one extra point in for that little bit extra damage? Or do you put it into something else?
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how do you replay bosses?
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>>334340527
Why do I keep seeing this? WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>334340447
Mass Effect has a continuous story that only makes sense if you play them in order. Dork Souls isn't like that.
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>>334336824
>Seriously though, Iundex is a good tutorial boss
Leave it to the cat poster to put the comma in the wrong spot.
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>>334340638
>Come to /v/
>Everyone I had trouble with, they call easy
>Everyone they spent days dieing against, I killed in my first few tries.

Its a weird feeling. Y'all all must be dex/pyromancers or something
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>>334336258
Boss is easy as fuck, a lot easier than gascoigne or even the cleric beast was in bloodborne
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>Just beat a 2 on 1 as invading sunbro

Based NPCs swarming them
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>>334340738
A lot of the time it has to do with what kind of character they make. What kind of a character I want to play pretty much dictates how I run through these games.
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>tfw wolnir
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>>334340678
>As time goes on you're right
That's what I mean, starting equipment really only matters for your first playthrough. After that you should be picking the best stat spread for minmaxing your PvP builds.
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>>334340818
Well then we'll have to agree to agree, motherfucker.
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>>334340269
Would be cool. Champion Gundyr was probably in my top 5 soulborne bosses.His design was great. It was basically the ultimate 1v1 duel.
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>>334340817
It's honestly the best "puzzle boss" out of all the Souls games.
Even better than One Reborn, I'd say
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>>334340738
I'm going dex, so I didn't have the 100% shield

Plus I play these games like an idiot, putting all stats into attack and almost none into vig, meaning that one or two mistakes on a boss is just the end of that attempt
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>>334340913
the only thing I hated was hitting the left hand

>gee lets put the hand inside the instakill poison cloud lmao
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>>334340329
>no praise the sun
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I think I've done every optional area and boss.
Pretty fun game, a shame that they reuse so many concepts from older games, it didn't felt fresh at all, it felt more like a tribute to the first game than a propel sequel.
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>>334340886

There are so many fights I want to do again but Gundyr is up there.

Shit just having the boss practice mode seems like such a home run of an idea for speedrunning and stuff .
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>>334340817
I could not believe the sheer amount of spooky that went on in that fight. Memeing aside I legit screamed a little when he first became visible. I was expecting skeletons, but I was not prepared for that shit.
>When he starts crawling at you
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>>334341043
Pretty much this, game feels like a rehash with polished mechanics

The transition from Demons to Dark brought a host of innovations. Covenants, open worlds, poise, fleshed out magic, god tier world building.

Ds2 doesn't count because B team. BB doesnt count because its not really a souls title and DS3 just lacks any kind of innovation beyond weapon arts that are useless in pvp
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>>334341043
I don't understand this argument. It's like complaining that Super Mario Bros. 3 is a shitty game because it reuses too many concepts from Super Mario Bros. It's a proper sequel, DaS2 felt more like a spinoff than a successor (ironically, non-Japanese Super Mario Bros. 2 does the same thing).
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I can't even fathom how you're going to handle phase 2 of Aldrich
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>Finally got 2 twinkling titanite
>Planned on upgrading Irithyll sword, but just got pontiff curved sword and it's faster with same damage
Irithyll has pretty much been my main weapon, but Pontiff seems pretty dope, I can't decide what to upgrade.

And is there any other use for estus shards? Any reason not to reinforce every time?
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Sure feels like Dark Souls II here.

How the fuck do you even fight this thing solo? My +2 broadsword AND my dark axe barely do anything to this thing's nutsack. I stomped Judex and the human Sif easily, but fuck this.
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Is Carthus Bloodring worth it?
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So Cathredral of the Deep or Catacombs next?
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>>334341258
Jesus, you keep hitting the nuts until it pops and then it takes a huge chunk of damage. It's not that hard.
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>>334341258
Wail away at the same sac either there or on one of its limbs, and something better happens.
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>>334341258
Hit the eggs until they burst, seriously famalam?
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>>334339897
>dark souls 1
>no mention of Demon's Souls
Casuals, the lot of you
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>>334337374
>faggot mode
keep close, strafe around him, occasionally dodge if you get too scared.
I beat him first try. I was so surprised because of these threads, I suck at this game. I even died on that frosty fat pig boss like 5 or 6 times, he's predictable as fuck, but kept 2 hitting me. I'm now on that mage douche, he 1 shots me with any spell, so I went and killed Watchers.

Right now only boss I really hated is Rottenwood Fart. He's not hard, he's boring. And he leads nowhere.
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the catacomb make me want to quit.
jesus christ i can't handle this.

>those elite skull hit like truck
>those stupid wheel are back
>those magic spamming skulls

FUCK
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>>334341110
It's honestly a pretty good idea. Wish it was implemented.
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>>334341258
You only for the nut sacks until he breaks the ground.
You know you have to the sacks on its legs / arms then its back... right?
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>>334341264

Anything with the word Carthus in it is gaurenteed 100% dank.

>Carthus Bloodring
>Carthus Milkring
>Carthus Flame Arc

gud
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>>334340260
How is that shit design? Most of his attacks are pounces and jumps so it makes sense to roll under him to get at his back. Killed him on my first try, i just beat deacons and a boss hasn't killed me more than twice.
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I have +2 worth of titanite and the starting fire gem invested into this starting battle axe.

Do I stick with this thing or switch over to the longsword or broadsword, or even some of the thrusting swords? Because I'm getting a little bit sick of the slow swing speed and crappy-feeling reach of the roll attack. Looking at the numbers, I'm sure that the swords would easily do almost as much damage per swing and yet they attack about twice as fast. The problem is that the fire infusion seems to be fantastic at getting rid of those corrupted gooey hollows and there are no additional fire gems to be found yet.

Just about to enter the Undead Settlement.
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>>334341494

Carthus flame ark has got me hard. Those flame effects are delicious. Definitely going to keep leveling my pyromancy up just for these sicko carthus buffs.
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>>334341264
Yeah it's good
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>>334341258
hit his balls until he breaks the floor.
Then hit his right arm, then back, then his right thigh, etc.
He's boring, but not hard. I died once because I'm a retard, but by the time I spent on bosses he might be up there with tough boyz.

Alternatively just kip hitting his nutsack if you're too cool to do it properly.
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Is there any way to respec in this one? I can never decide on what I want to do until like halfway through the game.
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>>334341494
>dank
Ngote i taku raho, you idiot
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>>334341603

I'm so glad they dropped that shitty weapon enchant effect from 2.
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>>334341475
>Start at bonfire.
>head right (not across the bridge)
>Drop down ledges to ball trap
>Speed past everything, jump into bottom level
>Go up the path next to the rats, where the second ball trap is
>Poke bonfire
>You now have a 20 second run to the boss

Easy peasy lemon squeasy. Also remember to invade while you are low level enough. Catacombs pvp is the bees knees
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>>334341258
Holy shit dude. I beat this tree fuck on my first try. Literally my first one. And you know what? My weapon was only +1. What a casual.
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What rings are you guys using? I'm using
>Chloranthy
>Havel's
>Milkring
>Covetous Silver Serpent Ring
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>>334341475
>The ones that dodge every attack WHILE throwing knives at you

Luckily if you bonk them on the head they fall over for awhile. At least I think it's the head, it was only happening with the vertical swipe of my great scythe. You can also kill half of them by triggering traps on them. Do your best and take a deep breath before touching that goblet.
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Demon Ruins and Ilithya make me want to end my life.
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>>334341767
>Shield break ring
>Extra estus ring
>FP regen ring.
>Havels
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Guys, I'm stuck on Pontiff! I'm barely making a dent. I've beaten every possible boss until this fucking guy!
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>>334341625

Yes.
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>>334341767

Milkring
Bloodring
Chlroanthy
Hunters
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>>334341767
FaP ring
Havel's
Milkring
Bloodring
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>>334341875
Brilliant. Is it an item or what?
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>>334336258
haha, the rage in you is big man, just accept that you're not good because you aren't good, instead of shifting the blame towards the game itself.
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>>334341864

If you're having trouble with the Pontiff, the next one is gonna rip you apart.
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>People still bitching about Iudex

Call me when you make it to the fucking dungeon
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>>334341212
Well, when you cross for the third time a swap area with just the same poison gimmick it just feels like more of the same. It just felt lazy, like they can't come with anything new and they just come with the same swamp stuff, forest stuff, catacombs stuff...

There was an area with poison as well in DS2 but that was quite well designed, with different ways to go in, closed spaces, lots of different enemies and shit. But here is just the same as in Dark Souls but with other enemies and surprise, this time you are forced to explore it.
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Are you serious? It's easier than asylum demon once you get used to the new timing.
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I've never played a dark souls before and beat the first boss after a few tries, with some help from bombs.

Great game but mobs ganging up on you is a massive pain, so many deaths
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>>334341767
I'm finding dick all for rings, granted I only just beat Crystal Sage. 4 slots is cool but I want more dope rings, game balance be damned.
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>>334341212
Best post anon of course no one will say anything to you cause you're right but I will
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>>334342054
>replying to your dumb post
Ngote i taku raho
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I love it when this happens

Had a Cathedral brawls with like 4 other people sliding like this, was hilarious, forgot to capture
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>>334341864
Parry him.
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>tfw you aren't even good at the Souls games and you beat the Tutorial guy without getting hit because the Dark Souls 3 roll is super good
>rest of the game turns out to be super hard

Why
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>>334341925

An NPC you find in one of the castles.
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GET IN HERE

http://nes.sne.jp
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>>334342127
All the connections I ever got were like that. I wish I didn't live in the third world.
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>These threads
Here, updated for your viewing pleasure.
god there are much less bosses in this game
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>all these people saying they've died 1-2 times max to each boss fight
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>>334342478
>god there are much less bosses in this game
Is the game shorter than the previous ones isn't it.
DaS 1 (without dlc) and 2 (without dlc) took me 50-55 hours but this one took me 35 including optional stuff and doing quite a lot of coop and some invasions.
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>>334340269
>You are charged the amount of souls that the boss gives for this
Or even simpler, you don't get any souls for killing it the second time.
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>>334336258
I beat this boss in windowed 800x450 resolution with a peak of 15fps on my first try.

My computer may not be able to play the rest of the game, but come the fuck on you should be able to beat this boss way easier than I could.
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>>334342652
1 was your first so it took you some time to learn what you were doing. 2 is bigger so it compensates the fact you are already a veteran. 3 is about the size of 1/BB while you are already savvy on the mechanics so it feels shorter.
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>>334342154
Which castle? Lothric?
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>>334342879

Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>334339023
well its a annual release now
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>>334340913
>tfw spoiled by /v/
I'll never truly know if I could have figured it out myself.
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>yfw yhorm was the biggest bore of all the lords
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>>334336258
I mean. You're playing dark souls. Think about that for sec
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>enter area
>spawn between 50 enemies as they start attacking me
>three gold phantoms there
>They all have their backs pressed to a wall and refuse to so much as budge towards a single trash mob that will also aggro on me.
>just rush in and go wild on them

Man, the piss babies this time around are REAL.
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I just beat Aldrich and it seems like ive fucked up every npc quest i could do. Should i reroll a character or just say fuck it?
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>>334340682
Make a new character.
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>>334336872
I beat him on my 4th try
This is my first DS game
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So anons,

How long did it take for you to realize you had to let it charge up twice?
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>>334343228
>mfw I chopped at his ankles for 1/3rd of his health before I even noticed the sword
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>>334341207
I've had fun using the wolf sword's front flip attack online. You shouldn't be playing Souls for pvp anyway.
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>>334340913

How's the One Reborn a puzzle boss?
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>>334339982
>playing old games when newer games perfect everything

that's so dumb. not everyone has infinite time
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>>334342478
We need a full redraw with new armors.
Too bad there aren't any new armors
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I really don't get how people have such problems with this dude.
Some of his attacks kind of blend together making timing slightly difficult on dodges, but holy fuck, seriously, ROLL.

R O L L .

Block is useless. FUCK BLOCKING.

ROLL.

YOU HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ABSURD AMOUNT OF I-FRAMES IN THIS GAME.

LIKE SO FUCKING ABSURD THAT YOU CAN JUST SPAM ROLL AND AVOID MOST CHAINS OF ATTACKS FROM ANYONE.

ROLL, NIGGA.
JUST ROLL.

DO IT.
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>>334343301
>Thought I had to use the sword on the giant tree at Firelink to drop a giant's soul or ssed so I could deal more damage to Yhorm ala King Vendrick in DS2
>Didnt notice the floor text or the shiny
>only found out about the two because I wanted to see if Yhorm breaking his throne would do anything
>thought the floor would collapse if he broke all the marble supports

I should really stop overthinking
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>>334342663
I'd rather charge souls upfront so that there's a penalty for dying.
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>>334343118
Tell me about it, seems every host is a fucking pussy because 9/10 have at LEAST 2 phantoms with them.

These are the same people saying the game isn't difficult.
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>>334336258
To anyone that can't actually beat the first fucking boss, just give up. My game crashes and runs like horseshit and I still manage to get him in one go.
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which part of the roll is invincible?
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>>334343619
Matchmaking prioritizes hosts with phantoms. It's dumb, I know.
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>spam roll and stay behind
>poke a few times when he stops swinging
>roll into attacks after transformation and stay behind
>poke when he stops attacking

It's literally just a faster asylum demon.
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>>334340728
you don't know how to speak english
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the first 2 bosses of this game are babby's first dark souls mechanics lesson

if you legit cannot do them you shouldn't be playing
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>All these strength builds using greatswords
>Not utilizing the sheer fucking damage of the Greataxe
This thing is a monster. Really surprised I'm not seeing many other people using it.
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>>334336824
You missed another important factor or 2.
Iudex teaches you to rely on dodging and not blocking if you're a block-fag.
He also introduces the mechanic with the demon spawn in his back and generally how they act.
He is a top-tier intro boss.
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>>334343890
>Seriously, though Iundex is a good tutorial boss, he has nothing on Gascoigne.
I don't think it's what that person meant to say, but it works.
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Invading people sucks but I'm getting there. Spent most of the day sitting on the bridge and force blasting cocky squads of 3 to 4 queers in Cathedral of the Deep to their deaths.

Anyone else having luck with invasions?
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>people complaining about numerous crashes
>people complaining about shit fps
>people complaining about lock ups
>people complaining about shit online

No problems on my end, and 60 fps to boot >:D
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>>334343619
You're invading the wrong areas. Protip, stay away from regions with major boss doors.
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>>334344084
>Iudex teaches you to rely on dodging and not blocking if you're a block-fag.
I just blocked and kept my distance.
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>>334344262
>40%
I mean, you can, but it is less efficient.
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>>334336258
>cant get past the first boss that's piss easy
>thinks everyone who did beat the boss is a h4rdc0r3 1337 gam3r who playes 15 hours a day.

i know this is a satire/troll post but fucking git gud faggit.
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>>334336258
Beat on him soon as you can lock on, then back off. You should have some firebombs, save those. Beat him around after dodging. Beat the ever loving shit out of him while he transforms. Stay back, use firebombs. Should be down to 1 or 2 hits by then.

This will work on even the weakest character. If you can't do it in the first go, you may have to switch some of those early tactics, I dunno.

Protip: the ice lizard and Master Swordsman can be taken out by making them go off the cliff. You still get their items.
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>>334344374
>Ice Lizard
Crystal Lizard, Anon.
Otherwise, on point.
Also,
>Friend doesn't believe Lothric is New Londo
>Thinks at best, it's Anor Londo
>The look on his face when he finds Anor Londo
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>>334344226
That's really fucking obvious once you point it out. Thanks, anon.
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>>334343916
I don't like the moveset, and greatswords/ultra greatswords come to me pretty intuitively
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>>334344223
Same here, feels good. Thanks meme90
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>>334336258
>fucking pathetic that this is what gaming has come to nowadays
No, it's fucking pathetic that most games are designed for people who don't actually want to put time into a game. It's fucking pathetic that people think that they should just instantly be good at something, and when they aren't, they consider it a flaw with the game design, instead of a flaw with their own shitty self. I know this is probably an "epic funny troll-man" post, but if not, just know that it's literally the exact opposite of what you described. Games should be challenging and designed for people who like a challenge. This isn't what "gaming has come to", it's come to a point where games are designed for baby manchildren who die because they SUCK at the game and then they go "b-but I have a job!" as if that's a criticism of the gameplay.
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dark souls 3 is my first souls game

>install game, get to the menu
>all keys are listed from a controller
>clunky character creation screen
>whatever, start game
>controls are fucky as all hell and buttons still show up as console controller, end up having to look in th eoptions to find keybinds
>kill like 5 monsters, then bossfight
>literally artificial difficulty boss that just attacks you so fast and you can't even have time to get any hits in
>die to it 4 times in a row, i hit it like twice total
>exit game
>uninstall
>refund

i'm convinced it's literally just an autismo game

on top of all this, (i was able to run the game fine on high settings 1080p) people are saying how badly optimised the game is for pc, and i have to believe them because the developers are also too lazy and shitty to even map PC controls into their game and make the game not feel clunky as fuck.

tl;dr: artificial difficulty and lazy, terrible developers.
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>first half shows patterns which the player, new or veteran, can use in order to get through the fight
>second half a bloodborne-esque matter spawns on top of him, covering 90% of your screen and moves so unnaturally his attacks can come anywhere

I just reached Anor Lando and that's the only boss fight I can say thus far has been bullshit.
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Reminder that 35% of Bloodborne players have never beaten Gascoigne.
65% have never beaten Mergo's Wetnurse.
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>>334344716
>That
From can't into PC gaming, it was designed with a controller in mind.
And also,
>This not gud
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, hopefully you find a game you like.
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I beat both Gundyr's first try
those are the only bosses I've beat first try though, which is weird considering every other Soulsborne I usually get a good deal of one shots
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>>334344716
You need to leave some room for belief in your baits.

I you did only the controller bit, or only the boss being too hard people might think you were serious.
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>>334344716
Middle-aged gamers have to adapt to modern gaming or quit altogether.
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>>334336258
I'm one of those faggots with a job m8. I often work over 50 hours a week on slow weeks. I've been looking forward to this game for month, and expect it to last a decent while. If everything was beaten in one or two trys it would of been disappointing as shit.
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I can't do it. I've never asked for help but I just can't do it. Those fat fucking cunts keep pushing my shit in whenever I try to get close. Then the blue fat fucks keeping healing him.

I've never had this much trouble with a boss and it feels like I should be kicking his shit in but I just can't fucking win.
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>>334344716
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>>334345013
>50 hours a week
>Assuming 6 days a week,that's over 8 hours a day
That is depressing.
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>>334336258
gr8 b8 n8
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I just beat the game

god that was awful

The only good bosses were Pontiff, Dragonslayer Armor, and Champion Grundyr

The second you got to cathedral of the deep the areas became shit tier and never got better.

Bosses at endgame became 'oh, you beat me once? well I'm just gonna revive so you can do it again'

You had the princes aka "kill the same boss 2.5 times"
You had the nameless king aka "spend 3m doing an horrifically boring shit tier fight to have a real fight"
You had Soul of Cinder which was just the generic movesets for each weapon archetype.
Half the enemies had the cool second form of "I catch fire" when they hit 50% hp.

The only fight that had a good second form was Champion Grundyr, every other one made the boss piss easy (eg. pontiff and his 10 years of telegraph), or just dumb and tedious (aldrich and his 10 years of running away from arrow rain)

The game was linear as fuck, you had two branches total, one in the awful snow area, and one in the first swamp.

There were 6 swamps.
6 fucking swamps.
3 graveyards.
The tutorial area was reused as a separate area.

There were no real unique areas, every single one was just a rehash of a previous area in the series. This was cute in the beginning but got tedious and annoying as fuck later.

The enemy spam was worse than DaS2. How the fuck did they manage that.

Weapon balance... 1h weapon was stronger than 2h
Let's just leave it at that

Who needs a gimmick? Every single fucking boss needs a gimmick!
People say DeS bosses were too gimmicky, but this game makes dragon god look tame.

This has got to be the biggest disappointment I've played in a long while.
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>>334345030
are you serious
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>>334344320
Not everyone plays as Deprived anon.
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>>334344716
This is terrific bait or you're a colossal mong.
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>>334344716
>instant gratification: the post
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>>334345030
I used the L2 of the Exile's Greatsword to clear out the mobs. pretty fun
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>>334345030
now this is a boss that even casuals who just spam r1 should be able to one shot

I hope this is b8
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>>334345058
10 hour shifts sometimes more, such is the life in the military.
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>>334345118
Yes, I'm fucking serious.
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>>334345216
>Mil sec
Ah. That explains it. I am even more sorry, Anon. My heart goes out to you.
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You must suck. I've seen newbies play it and they usually beat him within 3 tries.
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>>334344941
>>334345032
>>334345179

/v/ always makes points about how other games are shit but as soon as you bring up valid points about a souls game or a bloodborne game then you're suddenly baiting?

i'm convinced this is just a meme

>>334344990
i'm 19
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>>334336258
what a faggot
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>>334345242
what's your build?
just use a weapon with sweeping attacks and hit and run him
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>>334340448

Havel's shield wants 40 strength.
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>>334337138
bad
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>>334345363
>Ignored one post being nice
Confirmed bait.
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>>334345116
You should find another hobby anon.
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Fucking nameless king is ripping me a new asshole.
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