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So, i bought this game but after reaching lvl 20 as a gladiator,
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So, i bought this game but after reaching lvl 20 as a gladiator, i just can't stop being bothered by the fucking slow ass combat and how dead the maps/areas are + invisible walls.

Does it get better after level 30? Should i try to run a healer or DPS? I kinda don't want to be a DPS because people said that it takes fucking forever to do dungeons/quests.

Also, this is my second MMO only.

Help me here please.
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My first time playing this I ran with a gladiator. Was the most boring thing in my life. A year later gave it another go with a healer. Had fun. Lots of fun. The invisible walls are anoying, but you get used to it.
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When I first played last Feb I knew from the start I wanted to heal as a CNJ/WHM and it was fucking great. I bought the game 4 months later and after reaching 50 got Heavensward and put in 1,200 hours.

Yes, DPS have shitty queues and Healers and Tanks have awesome ones, that is true. As for the sloww ass combat, all jobs are like that until maybe the mid 40's when you get a lot more skills to make things interesting, but it doesn't help you picked the sleepiest class in the game.

tfw you have all tanks and healers max level but your highest DPS is 50 because you hate their q's and gave up on them all except for cross class skills
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>>332473085
Gladiator in particular is not for everybody
Most people say it's boring, I like it a lot, however I also like dry toast a lot

You will probably have more fun as a DPS class, but the game won't really feel "faster" until you hit higher levels and have more skills to use that go off the global cooldown. You might as well just try leveling up other jobs, you will get back up to 20 very quickly with the armory bonus, hunting and challenge log
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>>332473085

The combat is slow compared to more button mashy games like WoW, but it throws so many more mechanics at you in boss fights that you stop noticing it after awhile, and many classes are designed around the 2.5 seconds global cooldown, such as Monk who reduce their GCD everytime they complete a rotation, Bards who have a plethora of abilities that are designed to be used in-between each GCD, and Black Mages who proc stronger versions of their skills via random chance, thus creating a "reactive" rotation.

Gladiator is certainly the most boring job, but if you don't like other parts of it, it may just not be for you regardless. Final Fantasy XIV excels in its presentation value like its soundtrack and storytelling(which are leagues above any other modern MMO), which a lot of people who are new to MMOs may not appreciate.

See if you can get to Titan which is at 30 or 35 I think, and if that fight doesn't impress you then fuck it.
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>>332473085
What server did you go on?
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>>332473427
>>332474201
>>332474475

Thanks, i guess i will try healer.
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Gladiator and Conjurer are by far the two most boring classes to level.


Guess what my first two fifties were?
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>>332474642
Healer is really fun if you spend most of your time using your damage spells and going in and out of Cleric Stance

Especially in the early game dungeons you barely even need to heal at all
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>>332474642
It's probably better to level a dps class first because you will be less dependent on dungeon queues your first time through since most of your leveling will be done through quests and the like.

Ninja/thief is probably the only class that takes off relatively quickly.
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Viangaa when?
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>>332474932
Never because too much work/ people don't like monstrous races/ fuck you.
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>>332474642

Level Arcanist. Arcanists are special in that they start as DPS, but at level 30 they can become either a Summoner(DPS) or Scholar(Healer).

They can be switched back and forth as much as you want as long as you do all the quests for both, so you get two jobs for the price of one.

Also Scholar is probably the most fun job in the game, as they're known for being masters of healing and deal decent damage at the same time, kind of like a Red Mage.
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does anyone have that gif of a hyur girl in the plague bringer robe punching that Auri dude
it's cute
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Play blm, blm is fun. Blm is best.
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>>332474735
Warrior and Scholar.
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>>332475223
?
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>>332475140
>SCH
>masters of healing
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Question from an mmo noob:

So if I buy the online bundle for $60, do I immediately have to pay for a subscription? Or is the first month included in the initial $60 fee?

This could be my first mmo but I can't decide if my money will be worth it
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>>332475140
>masters of healing

just stay in cleric stance while the whm solo heals like the shitty smn you are
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>>332475731

Mitigation is always better than direct healing, and if using Eos Scholars are incredible main healers. The only reason why Scholars are designated to off-healer position is because they're better damage dealers than the other two and Selene's haste buff is too good to warrant using Eos.
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>>332475819
First month will be bundled in.
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>>332475089
I remember reading that they didn't want to add 3 classes next expansion because the 3 they did in Heavensward were to much work, but did they say anything about new races?
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>>332475819
You can get a free trial for 2 weeks, don't know about the moth since I bought HW separately, but don't get the bundle. Buy ARR then play it first, the only thing you can access from HW is the new race. Everything else including the new classes are locked behind all of the story content.
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>>332475819
Generally the first month is always free with these P2P MMOs. If you don't know what you're getting into play the trial though.
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>>332473085
5R297D6M
Go to mogstation, your account, and register a recruit a friend code if you haven't started paying for your subscriptions yet. This will give both of us some shit. Cosmetics for me, and stuff that will actually help you out for you.

Depending on what server you're on, I might be able to come wreck shit for you too.
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>>332475717
that's the one.
thanks anon.
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>>332475140
>masters of healing
That's not Astrologian.
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>>332475960
Mhm, sure. Thanks to people like you the first week of Seph EX had me practically solo healing because you assholes never get out of cleric stance. It was good practice and I can solo heal the fight now, but fuck you and all the parties that blamed me for letting them die week 1.
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>>332476006
It's safe to assume by now that they won't do any productive work or add anything cool. All they're doing now is focusing on making more endgame content that will be done by everyone in half a month. Also, they said they aren't going to add another 3 classes next expansion? That's so fucking lazy. I only remember Yoshi P saying he didn't want to add more jobs in between expansions like Rogue since that was a lot of work. This game really needs more jobs that actually play differently like NIN.
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>>332476026
>>332476028
Really want to play the trial and decide by that, but I'm on mac. Also the online bundle is the only one available for mac download, ARR alone is not.

Don't have windows on my mac so I can't go the bootcamp route and I haven't been able to get the trial working with wine. Been trying for the past couple of hours but to no avail.

>inb4 "why mac?"
It was a gift

Anyways that's a relief that the first month is included in the initial payment. Fuuuuuuck it's a tough decision, my doods.
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>>332476193
Blame Square's ludicrous DPS checks for that. Scholars are expected to DPS because they can, and White Mages are expected to solo heal because damage is more important.
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>>332473085
picked marauder/warrior as my first and main
was pretty fun
then went on to try out the dps classes and healing, which were also really fun

then i decided to bite the bullet and finally level up gladiator/paladin
it was one of the first times i considered killing myself
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>>332476006
I think what they meant by that was new class releases were going to be like ROG/NIN instead of 3 classes in an expansion, but who knows?
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>>332473085
warrior gets crazy fun and one of the most powerful classes, get it to 60

I would say if you switch try dps to learn the game and get some cross overs.

Your main story quests will pretty much carry a char to 60, sidequests and leves are good for off classes
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>>332474932
they are pretty much confirmed for next class. I read male and female but this will be the new race. Probably with 4.0 most likely with samurai and some mage
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>>332476541
its whey I went from WAR to DRK instead of building on PLD

goddamn DRK is so much more fun
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>>332476541
I leveled arcanist until I switched to lancer and I actually fell asleep while playing it, but after hitting 32 with it I started to have more fun. DRG, PLD and BRD are the classes that take the longest to have fun with.
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I really want to quit you, FFXIV, but I accidentally committed myself to a raid group for Savage progress.

I-I'll unsub once we clear a8s... And after trying out the patch 3.3 content.
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>>332476785
source = my ass
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>>332476541
pally is best boss tank and crazy about of def and cooldowns +cover
war is huge amount of health and lots of damage output, more dungeon and offtanky but have to be more careful with cds for big bosses
its rough to start with pally but pays off
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>>332476785
Hopefully Samurai bums off Maiming gear, because Dragoon constantly getting it's own special snowflake gear sets really grinds my gears (moreso when healer gear sets are mostly bleached caster hand-me-downs).

Seriously, if 5 classes are sharing Shiva gear, 4 are sharing Ifrit, 3 are sharing Leviathan; and Dragoon gets Garuda all to itself, that's just playing favourites and it's not acceptable.
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>>332473085
The game is unbearably simple until level 30-40ish as far as combat goes. If you want to play a faster class, try NIN, MNK, or Bard. BY the time you hit 60 though, things smooth out on any class as you have a lot of abilities off the GCD (except SMN, boring as fuck, SCH is fun though), plus shortened GCD from skills. It's not for everyone, this is a game best enjoyed by people who really like FF in general,MMOs and story-driven games.
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>>332474642
Play nin or monk if you don' want to be bored. They have the lowest gcd.
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Would it be no fun if I have no irl who play this?
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>>332479345
*irl friends
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>>332479345
Who does? Find online friends.
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>>332479345
idk, i played through ARR and the expansion without anyone to play with, didn't even join a fc and still had a great time
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>>332479345
>irl friends
???
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>>332479345
Its an MMO
Go talk and dance people who are hanging around and make friends
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>>332479345
The fact that you have to ask probably means no
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>>332479345
As someone who just started and all I have said is, Thanks, after dungeons, it's still fun.

I however have had a ton of FC invites but I just let them time out because I'm too scared to accept or decline.

Being anti-social in MMOs is the best
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>>332480012
Fuck breh that's me

I'm such an autist that even online interactions are too awkward so I avoid them
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>fat cat plushie still not available for pre-order outside SE's shitty estore that doesn't ship outside US/JP
God damn it.

Also Moogle mount when?
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>>332480012
>Being anti-social in MMOs is the best
I know that feel.
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>>332480262
You're gonna take your fucking dandelion and like it.
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>>332475960
>They're better damage dealers

No they aren't. They have the lowest DPS out of all 3.

The only reason people let Scholar's DPS so much and the reason they're seen as the "DPS healer" is because their DPS is sustainable, not because it's good.

On all parses a WHM and an AST will come out on top of Scholar in terms of DPS, both in single target (due to much higher potencies on practically everything) and better AoE spells (AoE DPSing as a Scholar is trash and Bane has severely poor diminishing returns on multiple mobs.)
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>>332480262
close enough?
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Your last thread got deleted for a reason, OP. Mods are cracking down on your generals.
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>>332479345
I was in an FC for a month for the bonuses before I left and never joined another and played through ARR and Heavensward alone. It was still fun as hell to me, but I have no doubt it'd be even better with some friends.
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>>332480262
Quit spamming this shit in every thread (and OF) when you know you're getting a shitty puffball dandelion instead.

>>332480678
Just a shame the general can't even control itself.
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>>332480678
the last thread started at almost the exact same time. It got deleted because there were two
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Anybody want some lewdstuff?
[email protected]
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ive played about a year and a half of ffxiv
and no it doesn't get better, it gets worse

slow shitty combat thats just button pressing on hotbar for 30-45 minutes straight per dungeon

game is always dead feeling, with no community to speak of due to half the players being on ps4 and only have controllers, youll end up in dungeons for 40 minutes and wipe 2x on the boss before the retarded DPS finally start to talk and then try to blame you as they sit in the fire/fail basic mechanics

also the most damning thing about it, is the fact that its themepark, endgame is nothing more than the most boring kind of treadmill

i'd suggest something like ESO or Black desert.

if you played skyrim and loved it, play ESO
if you want a fast paced action game , play black desert. its getting huge content addon tomorrow, as well as it being pretty new

FFXIV as a whole is dying very fast, they spent too long catering to the cancerous tryhards who pretend to be professional raiders, and then only .5% of the actual playerbase see all the game's content, so people just start leaving.

FFXIV also has huge core issues that have never been addressed, like no PC ui addons, servers all located in fucking canada so its always shit connection/ shit lag, the crafting system is awful, and all the classes are extremely generic creatively bankrupt wow-carbon copy classes.

there are like 100 other issues like the rampant gold spam/gold selling, the lack of community presence, the removal of gold spam report, the completely unfriendly GM system where you have to go out of your way to report the spam, instead of them making it more convenient and improving ways to defeat it.

the dev team sort of gave up, and what theyve started to do is just have side teams generate pointless side content and fluff, while releasing 1-2 bosses every 3-4 months

so like i said, move onto better things because FFXIV devs have given up a long time ago
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>>332480902
kys

Anyone want to do some manly PvP? I'm on Leviathan and I main big cums man WAR.
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>>332481127
wht ur FC senpai
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>>332480749
>going on the official forums
If you want cancer just visit a tanning salon, no need to torture yourself in the process.
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>>332481214
>>332481127
GC* I'm sleepy
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>>332481309
Tree huggers.

Doesn't matter though, the feast has no GC requirement. 4v4 matched parties though, so we'd need two more.
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>>332481240
But it's funny watching the shills and people with legit criticism argue.
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>>332480939
what server? I'll take you through rav ex or seph ex if you're on the same server friend
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>>332481729
Jenova
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>>332480902
but Jordan Belfort ate all the remaining ludes back in the in 80's or whatever.
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>>332480939
Just try to cultivate some relations with other players you see frequently. I know it sounds dumb, but being friends with other players really does pay off in the long run.

Even though I'm not doing the hardcore raid this patch cycle I got Sep ex down the day I got back because I'm friends with several raiders. Put a little effort into being with people and they're usually more then willing to lend you a hand when you need it.
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>>332481596
Fun watching people being the problem with the game too.
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>CT is no longer dead
Best raid, I'm not the biggest fan of Final Fantasy III but music remixes are awesome, still trying to get my WoL gear but it's now do-able because relic autists.
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>>332481980
I do have friends but they're too busy fucking each other in the e-butts or sucking cocks to do anything.

The LS I'm in of non-shitters that's invite-only never does anything outside of weekly Midas.

I'm just so pissed that you can join a DF as a DPS and try to just get by on the hopes you can scrape out your fucking clear at the expense of other people and NOT get kicked for being a mediocre turboturd.
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>>332480939
>>332481792

Pally is my only 60, and I never have problems getting PF groups together in Jenova.

They're not always great, but I don't think I've spent more than an hour for a full party.

In ARR I had to party finder all of Coil because I was in a shitty leveling FC that I wasn't willing to abandon.

Also, Mint Dew is always hanging around in Idylshire. Ask her for prices on clears.
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>>332482518
you mean that cat in idylshire that stares at the cherry bomb all the time? I usually see them as I run to turn in lore or midas stuff
also whats your character name i need more anons on my FL
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>>332475582
PLD and WHM
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Does anybody else hate Idyllshire? I pretty much go there get my loot and leave, it looks like shit, music is shit and the meme lords shout chat there nearly as bad as limsa.
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>>332482853
>the meme lords shout chat there nearly as bad as limsa.
that's really the only reason I don't like the shire desu senpai
I idle in limsa because the rpers etc hang out in shire.
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>decide to finish leveling LNC to 34 for B4B
>forgot how long it actually took to level up

Even with the ezmode ring it's taking a while. My best case would be dungeon grinding, right?
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>>332482937
Old Gridania Market place for me, nice and comfy music, looks great at night and quiet so I can craft in peace and talk to decent people that also come here for quiet.
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>>332483112
You get a level a dungeon basically with the current XP bonuses, and 1-15 is a joke via hunt log and a few fates.
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Does it matter which faction i go with?

The fucking fire, snek, or water people?
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>>332483269
not really
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>>332483269
All it affects is what kind of GC glamor you can get, and what faction you PVP with in Frontlines.

You can change your GC once a month or some shit anyhow.
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>>332483269
If you plan on PvPing, yes. Your pvp rank is tied to the GC so if you swap you wont get that rank back until you go back to said GC.

Also cosmetics from hunting seals but that's about it.
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>play gladiator first
>have tons of fun
>finally decide to try maruader since everyone I know says 'it's more fun and more damage'
>fucking boring as fuck

How the fuck do I even have reverse tastes compared to everyone else
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>>332482053
>people being the problem with the game
Sad truth for every mmo ever.
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>>332483269
>joining with a bunch of cowardly hippies who only survive at the whim of some invisible elementals who can wipe them out for stepping on too many flowers
>joining with some faggy pirates that outlawed piracy and initiate conflicts that get primals summoned at them then complain
>not joining with the powerful faction that believes in working hard and earning your own power in society and doesn't give handouts to any fucking refugees
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>>332483364
>play PLD
>1,2,3 things
>1,2,3 things for almost 60 levels
>occasionally pop a CD for big pulls
>occasionally cover healer
>occasionally cover a heal for the healer
it's ok/10

>level WAR
>1,2,3 things
>get to AoE things
>can buff damage with 1,4
>can play with stacks and pop them all for health and another 20% damage reduction buff
>can reduce enemy damage
>stacks stacks on top of stacks
>more HP

have more fun on WAR but use PLD for actual end-game content

it's a weird feel
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>>332473085
the stuff you're complaining about doesn't change. try some classes with more to do off global Cooldown(ninja comes to mind).
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>>332483585
If you're playing WAR like 123 you're playing it wrong.
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>>332483552
Make Ul'Dah Great Again!
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>>332483756
>123 for damage
>1,4 for damage buff
>1,4,5 for damage reduction + stack
>occasionally use DoT on bosses
>pop CDs so healer can DPS
>pop oGCD stun for stunnable bosses/bees in Qarn
I don't have it above 38, anon. there's not much else to do other than that.
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>>332483980
Oh, I thought you were being retarded.

50+ Warrior is god king of hit shit to the point they got all tanks nerfed.
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>>332484256
Why didn't they just make Paladins not shit? Even Dark Knights weren't that bad despite just being upgraded Paladins without a shield.
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>>332484440
paladins aren't that shit they're just boring imo
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>>332476462
>don't have windows so can't gl bootcamp route
So why not put windows on it and go that route eventually?
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No. Its the same shit to 50.

I am level 48 and I have talked to two fucking people so far.
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THE WAKING SANDS
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>>332484440
>Even Dark Knights weren't that bad despite just being upgraded Paladins

Dark knights are just weaker paladins that has to push more buttons to achieve the same things as other tanks. Drk being preferred over pld is simply because of magical vs physical battle design, which are hypocritical as fuck considering they removed any sort of player vs enemy affinity systems like elementals and piecing/slash/debuff (they're only player to player supports now).
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>pray tell
>aught
>amiss
>succor
>anon
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>>332484440

I think Heavensward made Paladin at least bearable to play. Managing a couple dots even if it's as simple as 123-c123-124 and getting to choose when the appropriate time to DPS or use your enmity attacks was a step in the right direction. I flat out refuse to run my level 50 roulette with Paladin any longer because I can't go back to 123 spam after playing at 60.
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>>332484578
Do you not communicate with people in dungeons?
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>>332485271
Hello, bye, and killing things on the way out? What is there to say?
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>>332485271
>"hi"
>"hello"
>15-12 minutes of silence
>"thanks for the run"
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>>332485271
Jumping and saying Cheers at the end of the dungeon
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>>332485271
nigga these cross realm hallways are no maraudon you moron
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>>332485346
I dunno, man. I just thought shedding blood and tears together would compel you to verbalize those bonds you forged in battle.
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>>332485271
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>>332484982
>>332485220
IS AUGHT AMISS?
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>>332485271
Unless there's some mechanic to explain, what's there to talk about?

We're all only there to get our shit done and leave, lord knows if the average MMO player could do dungeons and such on their own they would
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>>332485972
>Unless there's some mechanic to explain,
You are doing it wrong. You are supposed to complain that the person did not look up the fight before hand.
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>>332484578
I don't understand how this could happen.
Do you never mess around with other people at the hub areas?
Or wave to people standing around?
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>>332485737
There's really no point in talking and making friends when these people are on completely different servers and you'll never see them again. DF killed socialization in MMOs.
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>>332486024
>tfw joined ravana ex as WHM
>tfw only watched a video of it 2 months before but never did it
>tfw i tell everyone i'm new and they don't say shit
>tfw we wipe at the butterfly part and everyone blames me then leaves.
>tfw q'd up again and beat it first run through with new group

fucking meanies
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>>332486114
Why would you do that

That's fucking weird
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>>332485737
That would make sense if it was all in server like in the old MMOs.
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>>332486114
>wave to people standing around
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>>332486217
god forbid you be social in an MMO
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>>332486537
Waving to strangers is like one step above asking people if they wanna cyber.
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I'll just say this, I love astrologist. As a concept, they are really cool. You get to do some YGO shit and lay down some sick buffs and decent heals. The aspect of drawing I think tarot cards for effects is just so cool to me. I've never played a healing class in a mmo. It was always tanking then dps. AST has given me new hopes for healing. I just find their gimmick really cool.
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>>332486114
The only time I interacted with people outside my friends was when I saw three potatoes with same last name called bean or something were messing around
Gave them a pat or two and they gave me a bean ingame
Was cute
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>>332486658
That seems like a bit of a stretch honestly.
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>>332480491
the misinformation is this post is so fucking irritating

ast/whm only come out ahead in extremely short fights such as trash pulls. guess who doesnt care about parses there

also saying sch is the worst damage dealer because they have the lowest burst is the stupidest thing you could have said. when comparing dps literally the only thing that matters is the end damage at the end of an actual savage or ex primal fight.
Go on, show me a WHMs ability to do 1.2k dps in sephirot ex
oh wait you cant because SCHs actually do extremely well in that fight because all of their aoe CDs are off gcd or are on eos


and are you literally shit talking bane? its one of the highest potency spells in the game and you're calling it shit? it has 100% up to 5 targets, what current fight has more than 5 targets at once?

You're wrong on so many levels I literally got mad enough to write this post. Try in an mmo for once in your fucking life before posting this stupid "sch is worst dps because it doesnt have burst" like come on its good BECAUSE its sustainable you fucking looney. go on, go spam holy and tell me how far you get you cretin
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>>332473085
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The game needs more stupid unexplainable bullshit that the community will argue over for years to come.
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>>332483552
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>>332486781
You're boring. Fuck off.
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>I never make an effort to say anything other than "hey" or "thanks for run"
>FUCKING MMOS ARE SO ANTISOCIAL NOW

For christ's sake, make a joke or something. I don't care if you say the exact same fucking line about how you don't want to fight the creepy dolls in Anti-Tower again every time it comes up in your roulette, you'll get more responses and chatter that way.
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>>332486658
Nobody is a stranger in an MMO, you're all playing the same game.
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>>332486658
I got whispered

>-pulls you onto my lap-

Today.

It was my first time playing, I didn't know what to do so I just didn't reply.

I thought Balmung was the ERP server, is Behemoth ERP also?

DID I MAKE A MISTAKE?
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>>332486957
Behemoth has a lot of /d/ on it from what I hear.
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>>332486997
MOTHER FUCK
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>>332486798
Well, it would give them something to talk about outside which catgirl or female roegadyn has the biggest, meatiest dick.
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Which tank, DPS, and healer are the most active?

I generally drop classes if there's too much time spent sitting still casting or channelling.
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>>332486798
We already have MCH rotations for that.
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>>332482053
>people being happy that Bennu is a cash shop mount instead of something like a T12 drop
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>>332487375
Tank: War and DRK
DPS: ninja and monk
Heals: your gonna cast anyways, but AST
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>>332487375
Astrologian is pretty active with managing your cards
All the melee DPS are active enough with no channeling or anything. Monk and Ninja get their attacks speeds the highest but Dragoon is still really fun if seems cool to you
I can't speak for Dark Knight but Warrior certainly has a lot going on if you want to Stance Dance
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>>332487651
>i'm happy for the opportunity to support my favorite game :)
>it will help improve the servers!
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>>332487793
>it will help fund all of SE's other games while the devs make minimal effort on this one!

Fixed
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>>332487892
>Ends up funding XI's transition off of PS2/360 and rebuilding the tools that relied on PS2 devkits to continue development on the PC release
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I have looked everywhere for an answer to this but since no one gives a flying fuck about Feast, it's a bit difficult.
Is there an accuracy cap in The Feast PvP? At first I went in my regular gear, found out I was retarded and since then have got myself gear with nothing but Crit/Det in them.
I haven't experienced many issues, except the fact that sometimes my big combo misses. I can't tell if it's because my accuracy is too low, or if the healer is using some kind of spell that makes them invulnerable. My heart sinks whenever I waste my skills for nothing.
Does anyone know?
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>>332488042
This picture makes me realize that it's been six years now since XIV 1.0 released holy fuck
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>>332487375
Healers are all cast intensive so you can't escape that. However:

WHM: Strongest heals with some decent DPS. However all of their attacking spells can and probably will miss if you haven't melded accuracy. Holy spam is fun and does mitigate damage.

SCH: Has the most liberal use of off cooldown heals thanks to aetherflow and will never run out of MP for the same reason. Has the most consistent DPS due to their dots (three of which can't miss).

AST: has okay heals, only one off cooldown heal though. Their DPS is the weakest of the three by far with only 2 dots and also Gravity sucks dick compared to holy. They do have card use which makes them feel like they have more to do when they aren't DPSing/healing
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>>332488180
It also took six years for one person to bother working on reverse engineering it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKMeNjkqalc
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>>332488325
Well 1.0 was absolute shit in every respect except perhaps plot and presentation so that's not surprising.
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>>332483552
>summoning primals
>a con
Nigga, that's a plus. Get some worthy enemies for once.
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>>332486957
I got that too. Wile standing around being a useless cat.

>>332486997
This is true but that person who sent the tell didn't know what /d/ is so just some random who wanted to get his dick wet.
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>>332488481
The funny thing is how much more responsive the game/ui is on the home-brewed server compared to the official. You aren't waiting forever on skills to active either.

So much unused shit that you could build your own events/leveling structure outside of the replicated content.
It still won't be fun.
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>>332488294
A good AST paired with a good DPS can be greater than the sum of their parts. For that reason, it's best played if you have someone you know. SCH is good all around, and WHM will practically idiot-proof any dungeon run because of how well they can keep people alive if they're focusing on healing only.

Also of note to any prospective healers: What you do heavily depends on the situation. If someone's dying, it's probably best to get off cleric stance and pump HP into people.
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>>332488715
I'm not saying AST is bad though. It's certainly a lot better than at launch and I'd say it's probably on par with WHM now.

All they need to do is change the SCH/AST party bonus to MND
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>>332488325
>check out other videos
>basically everything but the gameplay and UI is better than XIV

The attention to detail and actual effort put into animations is amazing. I hate how god damn lazy this dev team is.
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>>332488792
The animations also have hella input lag on the game itself, and it's not 'inertia' like the OF would claim.
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>>332488613
We all know SE is fucking awful at netcode so that's to be expected.
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>>332486114
I do. They ignore me half the time so I don't bother anymore.
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>>332488325
Neat
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>>332477684
>crazy amount of def cooldowns

Most of which are only good for physical, where WAR has more CDs for all types of damage and self heals.

If you're playing PLD to be tanky, Its a good choice but dont assume its any better at tanking than the other two, especially WAR.
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>>332489169
Did someone dat swap the path companion?
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>>332489169
That fucking face.
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>>332487094
>femroes are futas
This meme needs to die. Then again I don't ERP so I shouldn't care I guess.
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>>332489169
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>>332489276
Yeah, they were able to get pretty much anyone as a retainer, Nael, Gaius, Ifrit, etc.
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leveling weaver because why not? but im stuck
level 35 and cant make any HQ items am i missing something??

also tricking people into buying your shitty gear is working and making a lot of money??? it so much fun
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>>332489595
If you want to be able to make a disproportionate amount of money at a lower level level BSM, people will still pay top dollar for HQ DoH/DoL tools.
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>Thought the random rule in VIII was bullshit
>Play it in XIV

suddenly it doesn't seem as bad now
who thought it was a good idea to give NPC's 6 cards to pull from while you have 30 shitty 1 star cards?
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>>332489583
That's pretty great. Would have figured the companion list was hard-coded to the three NPCs that used player-character model data.
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>>332489826
Just blame everything wrong with the game on Yoshi P. It makes things a lot easier.
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>>332489595
Best to level all of them to 15 before you focus on any one crafter. Get some really useful cross class skills that make it easy to HQ stuff, especially if you keep your gear somewhat up to date.
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>>332489236
>only good for physical
rampart and sentinel are both good for any kind of damage and Hallowed Ground is the best of its three equivalent skills
There's also the fact that physical damage is a major component of the current endgame and the most common damage type in general
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>>332488792
Yeah, it's always bugged me too.
I never played 1.0, but damn it does look really nice whenever I see it, definitely better then what we have now. just looking at the video here >>332488325 you can see that the Miqo'te walking animation is so much nicer, everything is so smooth and I prefer the graphics too.
The ffxiv we have now is better in a lot of regards but I really they wished they retained the general look of the game. Everything's so vibrant like a fantasy game should be. What we have now feels and looks a little dull in comparison.
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>mfw shitter blms say that of course they don't use flare outside of aoe
>mfw shitter blms actually use blizzard in aoe

Remember anons, learn your rotations or forever be haunted by smug lolis.
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Game is full 5.4 at this point. Feels like they skeleton crewed it to channel funds into their 15fps boyband simulator
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>>332486781
>SCHfags not in charge of getting totally assblasted when someone points out their class is shit

top jej
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>>332489973
They had to cut the budget somewhere, and it really shows in the animations. Graphics being downgraded is a given considering it went from only being playable on top tier computers to having to run on PS3s.
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>>332489998
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't flare pretty mediocre after the nerf? And even then, isn't fire IV 10x as good for single target.
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>>332489973
The graphics are worse in 1.0 if you actually spent time in it. Only thing it does nicer than ARR is normal mapping on textures (majority of them are flat in ARR), and using a blue colour mood at night instead of black.

I do miss the higher quality icons though. The kicker? The lodestone has higher quality icons for everything in ARR as well but we're stuck with shitty icons at 40x40 pixels ingame.
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>>332489929
not for alex savage. And if you're counting hallowed ground then I guess living dead counts too. Hallowed is used maybe twice a fight because of its super long cooldown. Where the WAR has Inner beast for anything, Vengeance and thrill of battle with a self heal on a minute.

DRK has notRampart and notSentinel with reprisal and living dead, and dark mind in place of the physical CDs a PLD has.
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>>332488786
AST will forever be the worst healer pretending to be a WHM.
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>>332490136
>They had to cut the budget somewhere

I'm pretty convinced they cut the budget everywhere judging by quality of 3.0 and up.
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>>332490024
spot the ast
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>>332490307
Surely that was just because they were overworked putting out Heavensward! They needed that 2? month long break!
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>>332490231
I mean look at this sexy 128x128px Midan sword.
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>Like Playing MMOs

>But only really like making money in MMOs and flaunting my cash around at low levels to fuck people off

Can you make fat stacks with crafting/gathering classes, or is it outclassed by dungeons/raiding that it is pointless?
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>>332490419
>Heavensward will have new, unique, and innovative content because we can take risks now!
>it comes out, hardly any content, nothing new, just rehashes
>we need a vacation guys
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>>332486781
>Get totally assravaged when someone points out a truth about your class
>Create a cringe-worthy autistic-as-fuck post about spouting "misinformation"
>Proceed to post misinformation about their class

>its one of the highest potency spells
It's an ability, you fucking autist.

>It has 100% up to 5 targets
HAHAHAHA. You literally just made an entire autism post and then back it up with information about your post that isn't even correct?

The potency on bane decreases starting with the 4th target, you fucking inept gorilla. Read the fucking tooltip for once, instead of getting assblasted and flustered when someone points out the truth about your shitty AoE.

Please feel free to kill yourself otherwise, because holy shit I have never seen someone so fucking stupid on here in my entire life.
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>>332490482
Why aren't you playing EVE? It sounds like the perfect game for you.
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>>332490152
Flare is still respectable potency and there's nothing wrong with tossing one at the end of fire iv spam
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>>332490231
BLM artifact armor is still the best of them all, it looks so fucking good.
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whats the best track in the game and why is it Shiva Phase 2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHkMfJBDFZM
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>>332490136
Yeah I think I was just using the wrong word. Not so much the graphics I prefer but the textures and lighting, it gives off a very different feel to what we have now. and I like it a lot more.
I wonder if there will ever come a time when they'll drop PS3 support, PS4 too but I'm very doubtful about that one, and even if that were the case, It seems incredibly unlikely that they'll bother going back and making all the models, animations, textures and lighting better then what they are now.
Very disappointing.
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>>332490482
You can make bank in this game, but it takes time and gil to get there. There is crafted raiding gear, which sells really well, and soon there's going to be new crafter gear, which everyone will go wild over.

Honestly if you like making money then this game is for you.
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>>332490697
That's not Dragoon's AF faggot.
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>>332490740
>Phase 2

You couldn't be anymore of a faggot if you tried.
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>>332490741
Yoshi P "said" that they'll drop PS3 support when the next xpac comes out, but we'll have to wait and see if that actually happens.
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>>332490756
>pointy tight fitting gay armor
Don't you have a floor to be tanking, loldrg?
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>>332490756
>>332490697
What you guys meant to type was PLD AF.
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>>332490847
I don't think people who stay in leylines until they die get to speak.
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>>332473085
>Does it get better after level 30?
No. It's the same shit with more crap on your hotbar.
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>>332490294
Nah, AST is better in the current meta, WHM's raw healing power is unnecessary for most fights.
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>>332489884
That's what I always do but that'd be too easy.
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I just lost 3 Goblin Jigs practically in a fucking row
Can any FSH explain this bullshit, because that shit is expensive
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Is ninja fun?
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>>332489904
I was doing that but then i discovered leve quests have limits then leveling got slower so yeah..
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>>332473085

30 is where the game actually starts to take off, mechanics wise. Also GLD is boring, PLD is slightly less boring, marauder and warrior are god tier man mode tanks. DRK is cool too
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>>332491046
RNG :)
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>>332491059
yes but you have to memorize Naruto finger sign combos
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>>332490231

abacus limitations
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>>332490740
WHY DOES EVERYONE SAY THIS? I swear, Shiva's music is fucking shit yet almost every time I get in this someone has to mention the phase 2 theme. It fucking SUCKS.
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>>332490542
EVE's setting looks boring as fuck.


>>332490750
Sounds good, I'm gonna start off gathering for some cash then move onto crafting skills.
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>>332490231
That's because they don't use vector HUD elements any more. The new engine either can't handle it or the programmers don't know how to make them work.
Resizing icons, etc. subsequently looks like shit, whether you up or downscale them.
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>grinding NThan fates with a party
>fighting asshole chimera
>we die, but still have fun
>eventually kill that sack of shit

Is this what MMOs are all about? I had a great time and I got to party with some cool dudes, albeit there were some people trying some RP shit. That ended fast though. We even got a greifer. What a fun fate grind for the last several days.
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>>332490697
>>332490756
>Comfy as fuck coat
>practical looking armor mixed with practical winter clothing
>horns
>A FUCKING VISOR

niggas swerve
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>>332491059
It's okay. I'd probably like it a lot more if the servers weren't unmitigated ASS and it was thief. At the very least let me change my run from that stupid fucking anime bullshit.
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>>332475505
Blm only starts being fun when you get umbral ice 3 and astral fire 3, plus blizzaga and firaga. So, lvl 50 basically. Before that it's a fucking snorefest.
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>>332491168
Which is fucking stupid since it looks terrible at 4K resolution, despite having 4K-ready assets handy for the UI already.
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>>332490697
BLM looks like shit.
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>>332491450
You have all that at level 40.
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>never really got into MMOs but decide to try the game
>first class WHM
>level to 50 easily doing MSQ, have alot of fun doing it
>decide to buy HW
>suddenly dozens of inane quests that basically boil down to "go from mor dhona, talk to X, kill Y, then return and watch another cutscene" only barely broken up by the fun primal fights
>look online to see how much of this shit I have to do
>100 quests
I don't think I'm autistic enough for this
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>>332490740
Don't know about best track but it certainly is the best transition
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How trash are dragoons?
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>>332490740

god tier:
titan phases 1-5 in sequence
ravana phase 1
bismarck phase 2
ramuh
sephirot phase 1 and 2

high tier:
leviathan phase 2
shiva phase 1
garuda
ifrit
ravana phase 2

meh tier:
bismarck phase 1
leviathan phase 1

put it in the trash tier:
shiva phase 2
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>>332491701
Mechanically the class if fine, if a bit boring.

It's the players that give it a bad rep.
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>>332491701
Great DPS all around. Great damage, fun to playat 50 great support and you make bards, machinists and monks cream themselves.
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>>332491701
AoE's will fuck you
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>>332491671
>go from mor dhona, talk to X, kill Y, then return and watch another cutscene
but that's almost the entirety of the ARR storyline except you go to and from the Waking Sands, which is way worse
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>>332474735
Nah nigga, I started out as Lancer and it was boring as fuck. I switched to conjurer at around level 24, had tons of fun and never looked back.
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>>332491701
loldrg
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>>332491829
>no teleport crystal near there
Am I missing something?
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>>332491087
Do the daily GC turn ins. Some pretty good exp there, especially if the item has a star next to it.
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>>332491881
nope, enjoy your extra loading screens or run
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>>332491881
Lominsa, take the aetheryte to the arcanists guild and then the boat to the waking sands.
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>>332491829
It was spaced out a little more at least. Go to X and do 4 or 5 quests in a line before returning. Now it's one at a time
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Shiva has god tier phase change

The music's alright too
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>>332491151
Funny, I've always felt like it's the opposite. So many people say it's shit when I really like it. I'm blown away whenever I find another person who likes it too.
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>>332486957
Report them for sexual harrassment (not like anything will come off it of course) and block.
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>>332491450
You mean blizzard III and fire III, don't want to confuse the WoW refugees now do you? :^)
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>>332491881
There's a lore reason for it. Minfilia wouldn't play Lolorito's games and take his money and let him influence her organization. Lolorito was the major investor in remaking the aethernet after the Calamity. So instead of putting an aetheryte there, he put a big statue of himself as a 'fuck you'.
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>>332490509
>and innovative content because we can take risks now!
I don't think people give Yoshida enough shit for this, 2 patches in and still waiting for these risks, if these 'risks' are diadem and Verminion then I think someone should take his place cause I'm seeing why people call Yoshi-P a hack.

Hopefully and it's wishful thinking someone during a Q & A on one of his psuedo rockstar tours asks him about these risks but knowing his rabid fanbase it's unlikely.
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>>332492106
>not like anything will come off it of course
You see, the problem with reports is GM's need a specific time when things occur because they're extremely undermanned. just like the dev team!

If you're reporting someone include the date and time the transgression occured so they can check the logs and punish the player.
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>>332490509
Hey man...
Diadem and LoV were risks.
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>>332492197
Fucking jews. Lalafells need to be gassed and Ul'dah burned to the ground.
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>>332490697
Blm looks like shit, and i main blm. I wanted the vivi outfit, instead i got some retarded 2edgy4u crap.
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>>332492315
>ARR afraid to take risks
>Meanwhile FFXI is just repurposing old content zones/enemies and creating new/experimental content out of it for cheap

Pic unrelated.
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>>332490740
It's shit anon. The most out of fucking place piece in the entire game. Into the trash it goes along with titan theme and midas theme.
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>>332492370
But Lolorito's jewery saved Ul'dah
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>>332491718
I don't like Ravana's theme. The way the guy sings bugs me.
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>>332490740
Her phase 2 theme sounds like it's running at a shit-tier bitrate. Soken can't into levels when using actual guitar/percussion.
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>>332487658
>>332487668
>>332488294

Thanks guys. I like tanking so I'll probably start out as a Marauder and go for Warrior.

It sounds like AST is the way to go for healer but I'll probably level a healer second.

If I level a DPS which is best able to keep up in spite of Ausfag latency? I don't tend to play DPS if tight rotations are hampered by shitty ping.
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>yoshi-p is hack
>turned a disaster into a cashcow
truly the work of a hack
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>>332492813
A cashcow that won't last five years.
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