how bad is it?
>>332395530
It's decent. I had fun playing it.
Too many cutscenes ruin the experience though.
Way too many cutscenes. Shooting is good.
>>332395530
The Good
>10/10 gunplay and soundtrack
The Bad
>Too many cutscenes wrestling control out of your hands way too often and a story that is just serviceable
The Ugly
>Irritating, overused video effect
Max Payne 1 and 2 always felt dynamic to me, I have often replayed them.
Max Payne 3 had a great gunplay, killing them was satisfying and the animation work they did with it is impressive.
But it was not as replayable as the previous entries, I appreciate the idea of carrying few guns for making him look always "on the run" but for the series it was portraying it meant a step back from the choice you had, the whole "old school" idea of keeping the ammo for when it really counts or being able to waste away or choosing the right tool for the right job.
>>332396096
To repeat what said
The unskippable cutscenes, too many of them too, the huge size for a game that was fairly short compared to so many other smaller games, heck Skyrim to name one.
The map design was boring, it felt linear and was mostly linear, unlike in the previous 2 where you had maps where you could move around. They felt more of a real place.
>>332395530
Motherfucker, this game is FABULOUS.
>>332395530
Not as good as 2.
>>332397317
You just wanted to post this
>>332397476
You're right. I love Max Payne 3 and wanted to say so in a Max Payne 3 thread.
>>332395530
It's average.
Weakest of the Max Payne game.
Story is trash as well.
>>332396096
>Irritating, overused video effect
I disagree on this point completely, I loved the distorted and broken video look.
It fits perfectly with the seedy and dark feeling, and how broken and fragmented Max's life is.
>>332395530
GOTY 2012 so not bad at all
>>332395530
One of the greatest games to play when drunk.
>>332395690
>>332396096
>Too many cutscenes
Agree. I just want to pew pew and boom boom like in cod, I dont care about max at all
>>332397930
Other anon here. The effects were very annoying. First time i played it gave me a headache. I'm sure we can masturbate over the deep meaning of it's representation of Max drunken state but, in practical terms, not very entertaining to experience it.
>>332395530
>max payne 3
>bad
the terrible shit in this game is the unskippable cutscenes
>>332395530
Very good 3rd person shooter.
Best Max Payne in terms of gameplay.
Script, music, VA and story is great.
The only real negative is that there's tonal shifts from the prior 2 games and unskippable cutscenes (hurts replayability a little).
>>332398106
>Shitposting to defend unskippable cutscenes every 7 minutes
Kill yourself and then leave
>>332398106
I actually don't care about angry drunk overweight angsty bald man who's name coincidentally happens to be Max Payne.
I do care about Max Payne though
>>332395530
It's okay but not as good as 1 or 2. I actually just finished playing it 3 days ago.
It suffers from typical Rockstars overuse of dialog, and also their over moralizing protagonists. I don't know why Rockstar is so afraid of just having someone admit they do wrong in a game nowadays. Sam Lake's writing is much better than Dan Houser's who prefers to just swamp the player in meaningless pretentious dialog. Max literally never shuts up and after a while you will just drown out his voice as you play, whereas in MP1 and 2 when Max spoke you payed attention because it was always a good well written interesting line.
The shooting is good though, but the enemy are really bullet spongy at times that ruin it. The animations and way the guns are stored on your is really cool but I'd still prefer having an arsenal on me, I don't care how realistic it is to carry around 10 different rifles at once, it made gameplay better. The 3 weapon limit turns it into COD where you are constantly swapping weapons on the ground, but the way max holds them kinda makes up for it since they are always on your body and Max juggles them around when switching weapons.
Cont.
>>332398365
It also has a fucking shit cover system, that even if you don't use it, ruins the pacing of the game because enemies will and the level design is designed in a way that they want you to use it. The fucking garbage QTE like second chance ability you have fucks the pacing so much too. Every now and then an enemy will one shot you, and you go into slow mo, the screen will rip away control from you, point you at an enemy so you can kill him and get your health back. But you always respawn laying on the ground, and it doesn't have MP2's quick get up, so you could be shoot dodging around and suddenly the game takes control away from you for this shit pace ruining QTE, and then you regain control, on the ground, in the middle of a bunch of enemies, not in slow mo and then lose half your health getting up. Fucking ruined so many good fights.
The level design is also really shit at times, literally feeling like a small room after a small room because so many cutscenes, it's unbearably linear, but gets better later in the game. The early game is really bad with shitty times missions too. No time to explore at all and find all the hidden collectables they hide around the levels. The game feels like a conflicting mish mash of different ideas that while some are good, all put in together just fuck with the pacing so bad. It's one of the worst paced games I've played in my life, it is game ruining at points. The game will also take control away from you all at times, you will be looking around a room and suddenly you are in a cutscene, and when it ends you are somewhere else and didn't even get to explore the room and pick up all the ammo in it. Game also resets you to use a pistol after every single fucking cutscene so enjoy weapon switching back to your preferred weapon all the fucking time.
Also while the game looks good, if you get close some of the level textures are literally PS1 tier level of bad. The game has a very disjointed feel, nothing is consistent.
>>332398365
>It's okay but not as good as 1 or 2.
3 is much better than 1. Not even a contest. You might enjoy the story more in 1, but the gameplay sure as hell isn't better.
It's absolutely fantastic, OP
>>332398448
>3 is much better than 1
No anon, it is not. In fact, 1 is the best Max Payne. The game is flawless.
Feel free to disagree though.
>332395530
Don't like the gameplay compared to the originals. Too heavy and grounded. I prefer the lighter, faster, more agile Max Payne by a mile. Also the game was designed around the shitty cover system and the maps reflect it.
The story and characters are also shit and so are many of the new mechanics
>>332398365
>>332398436
Can you imagine anyone actually reading this nitpicky bullshit lel
>>332398281
>>332398325
>I just want to pew pew and boom boom REEEEE
>>332398647
>I just want the video game in my video game
Yeah.
>>332398647
I'm sorry you're incapable of thinking critically.
>>332398436
Also I forgot to mention but if you have an AI partner with you in the level, be aware they can trigger autosaves, so you could be back getting ammo, and they run ahead and die, and then you reload the autosave ahead of where you where, in the room your buddy died in.
Also the gunplay really took a step back from MP2. They removed the quick reloads from MP2, and the quick get up. Though they did keep in ground shooting. As a resault the game feels more like MP1 than MP2, and the pacing in firefights can feel really slow if you use slow down a lot because you always run out of ammo and have to go out to reload and get in cover. It doesn't have that lightnight fast feel that MP2 had in it's shootouts.
>>332398448
It's debatable actually. I definitely preferred the atmosphere and story in MP1, but MP3 did have gameplay improvements, but it also had some worse gameplay aspects like the QTE death prevention thing. Overall I think the level design tips it in MP1's favor but it's very close.
MP2 is miles ahead of both though, MP3 took a step back and regressed mechanically when compared with 2.
the game is great, but the unskippable cutscenes test your patience.
Super fun gunplay though with some really memorable sections thrown in with a neat soundtrack.
>>332395530
Story is basically man on fire
Best TPS gameplay wise ever created
Boring and bland environments, New Jersey parts, especially the cemetery were great
Max becoming an alcohol was a really good idea and makes him feel more genuine as a character
Walking off in the sunset was a terrible idea, then again the whole story sucked and Max had absolutely no reason to do what he did, in previous games he carried out a personal vendetta, in 3 he even admits he's just a rent-a-clown with a gun but even after his boss is dead he still goes on a rampage for no reason.
>>332398591
OP wanted an opinion, I just finished playing it, I posted a review since it's fresh in my memory. It's not nitpicky, you are butthurt because I criticized a game you liked in depth.
For the record I thought MP3 was good but deeply flawed at fundamental levels.
>>332398771
>Max becoming an alcohol was a really good idea and makes him feel more genuine as a character
Really? I thought all that was hamfisted and obnoxious. Especially since every other goddamn cutscene is him getting drunk and angsty at nothing in particular.
>>332395530
Really good, best gunplay hands down. Cutscenes kills it.
1-3-----a pile of shit -----2.
I don't know why people love 2 over 1 so much.
>>332396096
>>10/10 gunplay and soundtrack
What a great soundtrack indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EskJZmaYL10
>>332398771
>Max becoming an alcohol was a really good idea
"My wife was dead, but that was okay."
>>332398176
You have a choice between watching a loading screen or watching the cutscenes while the game is loading and then skip them once it's finished loading the game. You can skip them on the second playthrough.
>>332395530
Goog game, bad Max Payne. Like MP2, but worse.
>>332398954
To me it made sense for a man to lose everything teice and becoming an alcoholic, maybe I'm just biased because I've struggled with alcoholism too but I really thought it made him more believable, after what happened in 2 having Max still have his dark little quips and usual handle on things wouldn't make sense anymore.
>>332398365
>Bulletspongy
If you can aim enemies pop in 1 shot, even full armor ones.
Not like 1 and 2 that trully had bullet sponges.
>>332399013
Because 2 has the best and most smooth fast gameplay in the series.
1 is way to clunky and slow. 3 is too heavy and slow.
>>332398771
>Max becoming an alcohol
>now a giant morosely wisecracking bottle of Scotch with stubby little arms and legs
>if you're shot you start leaking, the more holes the faster
>game is now always New York Minute
>shootdodging spills even more if you're damaged
>painkillers turn into shotglasses
I'd play it
>>332399151
Fair enough. It's just that you'd shoot enemies and they'd fall over and you'd aim at anothe enemy to shoot, and suddenly the first guy would stand back up again and shoot back.
I think it was a failed attempt at making your guns feel like they were doing damage because when they got back up they acted the same as before IIRC. Just felt like enemies revived themselves honestly.
>>332399143
The Max Payne series isn't exactly a bastion of logical realistic grounded characters. The alcoholic max just bogged down an already uninteresting story for me.
>>332399152
I agree. Replayed all three on winter vacations and the first one has great story but clunky shooting and is very long for tps. The story in mp2 is shit which is strange because I liked it very much when I was a kid, now it just looks meh compared to mp1. Still has some great lines and catch phrases tho. And it's too short and some levels are just the same like construction site with mona and max. And mp3 has best gameplay of all three nowadays and the shittiest story and max payne isn't max payne at all.
>unskippable cutscenes
You CAN actually skip the cutscenes, as long as the game has finished loading the next bit already (the cutscenes essentially double as loading screens).
>>332399590
There's a good few cutscenes that will not let you skip. The loading circle will stay there the whole way through for some reason
wonderful tps
awful max payne game
next thing you'll say IT'S NOT NOIR.
>>332399436
That's because you're a faggot
Max Payne 3 > Max Payne > Max Payne 2
>>332399789
Max Payne 2 > Max Payne > Max Payne 3
>>332399867
>>332399789
Jesus Christ that american education
Max Payne 1 > Max Payne 2 > Max Payne 3
>>332399758
>he things muh alcoholism and muh angst makes for a good character
goes completely against Max coming to terms with his past at the end of MP2. It's shit no matter how you look at it.
>>332399976
I'm not American and I value gameplay over story. MP2 has the best gameplay by far.
They should've started a new franchise. Max from 3 has nothing in common with Max from first two games.
Gameplay was superb.
The gameplay was great
I found the soundtrack to be forgettable for the most part
Is it worth playing if you haven't played the first two?
>>332398591
Why are you even here?
>>332400547
It's barely even relevant to the first two. They could started a new IP with minor changes and no one would suspect it was a max payne game
>>332395530
I liked it but here are my gripes with it.
>story was just meh
>side characters were dull and boring
>Max wasn't as snide
>big AAA budget made them use generic lens flare cutscenes instead of hand painted watercolor comic book esque cut scenes
>2/3 weapon limit
>Gunplay was too realistic and weighty. It is the hardest of the series but that's because Max felt very heavy and it takes him several seconds to get back up while in 1 and 2 he was very agile.
>Level design was fairly weaker. In Max Payne 1 and 2 enemy placement was very well considered. In some areas in 1 and 2 they were darksouls tier waiting at a corner to shoot a player who is rushing through.
>turret sections and sliding sections were gimicky
>there were points that a cutscenes threw you forward in a level and you had to backtrack a bit to collect a few collectibles
>there were parts where I didn't know if i should go up the stairs or through the door. I wanted a collectible so I ultimately chose the door, sadly it was the next area and the collectible was in the stair case and the doors shut behind me instantly.
>weapon balance was terrible. Enemies became armored so you wanted to hit ten in the head to insta kill them. Shot guns and weird single shot rifles were really useless or under powered and due to the weapon limit I would choose 2 Uzis or an smg that can stun lock an enemy to death over a shotgun that takes a while to cock up mid air.
>last wind mechanic often failed because an enemy was often behind awkward cover
>Max Payne 2 fixed Max Payne 1st problem with shitty bullet spongey mini bosses that could take several shotgun blasts to the face. Max Payne 3 brought it back.
>lastly meh multiplayer
Even with those problems it is still my second favorite "cinematic" game of last gen behind metroLL
>>332398771
>Best TPS gameplay wise ever created
I keep seeing this in these threads and you never hear it anywhere else.
>>332400851
Well what would you consider to be a better tps
>>332398591
Have you ever even thought to give your opinion on anything other than through shitposting? Or are you too inarticulate or scared to state your own two cents?
>>332398771
>>
>Best TPS gameplay wise ever created
I had my gripes. Moving in and out of cover felt kinda clunky. On the higher difficulties where you can die in three hits, you really want to make a smooth and straight a line as possible from A to B. Also, once I figured out that the best way to shoot from behind cover was to actually go prone and fire from an angle where they couldn't hit back, it became more frustrating.
>>332400897
Personally I liked 2 more but I would hardly call either the best. There's so many TPS' out there of different styles. In MP threads I always see a large amount people call MP3 the best TPS mechanically but in other TPS threads it doesn't even get mentioned. If MP3 was so amazing mechanically why do we never talk about adopting or expanding those mechanics into other games? It's strange that it never even gets brought up elsewhere considering how consistently and effortlessly that opinion pops up in MP threads.
>>332395530
It's good. Not great, not amazing, just good.
Gameplay is best of the series
STory is fine
Technology is god tier
Only problem is the frequent, intrusive cutscenes
It's a masterpiece.
>Have gun during gameplay
>Thats what he's holding in the cutscene
so little games do this for some reason
I might be remembering this wrong, but in one of the cutscenes he shoots a door lock to open the door, and then when you get control back the magazine in your gun is missing a bullet. I like little things like that.
>>332404064
Word. Health really nailed it too.
Yeah but dat airport tho
I loved it, and would like to see MP1 & 2 remade in the same style.
>>332404625
>>332404335
>>332404181
>stand under a shower in the police station
>your clothes actually have water droplets on them afterwards
This game is TECHNOLOGY incarnate, I love shit like this.
>>332404335
And if your gun is empty, he reloads before shooting the lock.
Everything, even the optimization made the game very fun and enjoyable, people say that MP2 is better buti had more fun with 3
>>332405101
>>332405019
>>332404335
>>332404181
God I need to replay this
TECHNOLOGY makes me fucking erect
>>332395530
p. good,amazing
>>332405498
kek
>>332405498
Cats Payne is great.
>>332405989
>>332406167
>>332405498
>>332405989
>>332405498
this cat is so cute and squinty :3
>>332406480
he looks like my friend's cat.
>>332404625
>>332405989
WHO'S THE CAT WITH NOTHING TO LOSE
>>332406729
It's hard to tell if he likes, or shows disdain at some things.
>>332406729
>>332406801
It's fantastic. Who thought that Rockstar of all devs would make some of the best gunplay in 3rd person vidya history?
>>332406729
I love cats and ND. Good pic.
>>332406729
Looks like a Twich Streamer Scum.
>>332407187
lol why?
>>332398771
>rio
>bland
>>332398771
>an alcohol
>>332406801
he's disappointed with his master the decisions his master makes
>>332407471
It was Sao paulo and yes it was extremely bland.
>>332398365
>>332398436
Motherfucker he said write an opinion not give us an essay about your shitty opinion and why it matters (it doesn't)
kys
>>332407363
It's aCatwhore.
I honestly would like to see 1 and 2 remade in 3's engine. Minus the lengthy unskippable cutscenes and shitty filters, at least.
>>332408218
is it real life?
dumb catposter
>>332396096
Video effect is based on Man on Fire you plebs
>>332409316
But MGSV came out after Max Payne 3.
>>332409316
The fact that they tried to turn Max Payne into Man on Fire doesn't make it better. Arguably it makes it worse.
>>332409383
Oh you and your casual racism
Turret section in helicopter at start was the moment I realised, it's hardly a Max Payne game. Max had these cool cinematics all the time, but all in all it was solid action game first. Rockstar revered that and made cinematics more important than gameplay.
It's one of 2 AAA games I dropped, other beign GTA IV
>>332398106
wish I could
writing is godawful, and all dialogues are "hurr durr, so serious". Max turns from cheeky guy with nothing to lose, into medicore grimdark action hero, who constantly complains about life beign unfair, and him beign useless.
>>332396451
>the whole "old school" idea of keeping the ammo for when it really counts or being able to waste away or choosing the right tool for the right job.
I believe reason why game has sniper hitscan pistols, is so you never face situation, where you carry wrong long gun.
Wish they just didn't restrict armory, or at least strip you from what you carry, or force certain long gun on you every 15 minutes for "muh cinematic experience".
Hey guys remember this?
>>332395530
Undeniable GOTY 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue3kfclhVCQ
>>332416441
I've always wondered about that movie. It was just strange.
