What went wrong
Not Pokemon Go.
I always wanted to try them out but stopped playing my regular DS around 2007
With Heartgold and Soul Silver? Or Pokemon in general? Be more specific you autist.
n4i couldn't play them at launch or at least I couldn't patch them
>>345464891
Nothing. These remakes should be the standard for all pokemon remakes.
>*some* questionable arrangements
>Red ditched Espeon
that's about it really. great remake.
>>345464891
They remade the worst pokemon game and region.
>>345464891
Giving you the GB sounds at the end of the game. At least you can cheat to get it early
>>345464891
Level curve and Pokemon distribution wasn't fixed, music is just okay except for Route 47/48 which are excellent
Everything else is fantastic
>>345464891
nothing. these remakes are fucking awesome
>>345464891
Shitty kinono girls story forcing you to be the legendary trainer that catches that versions legendary instead of it being optional.
>>345464891
Nothing
>>345465356
THIS
>>345464891
Nothing.
They're objectively better than the originals.
>>345464891
Too much on-cartridge DLC locked-away bullshit.
>>345464891
Nothing
>>345464891
Unable to re-duel trainers
No good places to grind until you beat Elite 4
>>345464891
Nothing really, best remakes
>>345464891
World feels worse, way more tacky.
That's about all
>>345465356
>At least you can cheat to get it early
You can?
How?
>>345466802
there's an action replay ds code which makes one of those delivery men give it to you. I'm using the EU version of SS so I don't know if it works on all versions.
>>345464891
>Forced legendary "quest" that made Lugia feel less special.
>Kanto is still a ghost town.
>The usability of pokemon is fucking terrible due to the phy/spec split on moves fucking over a lot of older pokemon.
>The level scaling is the worst in any series. In the radio station you go from fighting level 18-22s and finish at fighting a trainer with level 33s, all the while there's no other way to level without grinding level 14 hoothoots.
>>345466123
Not as comfy
>>345464891
They didn't give you the option for good music until the very end
>>345467195
I admit some of the music is better in the original.
Goldenrod City is a good example.
>>345464891
>level curve is still busted
Smdh. (shaking my damn head.)
>>345467165
The only thing they did right with Kanto was give Blaine a proper gym and allow you to explore the rest of Seafoam Island.
>>345465038
Yes, they're too easy.
If you fight every trainer, you wind up over levelled for the E4, and Labor doesn't up the anti.
HGSS are shit. The romhack, Sacred Heart Gold, and whatever Silver got is how the game is meant to be played.
>>345468010
>Labor
Kanto*
The battery in my pokewalker died
Only pokemon game worth playing
>Hard mode
>Insanely huge endgame
>Great gyms
>Some of the best minigame side stuff in the series
>>345468493
Unlocking the hard mode was completely retarded though and it didn't make it that much harder to begin with.
>>345468493
It's still OK though. Romhacks are still better. I will admit it's hands down the best region. In B2/W2 that is.
>>345464891
They didn't fix the level curve and didn't increase levels of trainers. They also didn't expand Kanto's content in anyway way even though this was the prime oppurtunity where they could have made Kanto like they envisioned but couldn't due to limitations.
>>345464891
They my favorites but I recognize their flaws
>Several Johto leaders weren't given obvious Johto mons (Falkner - Hoot-hoot line, Bugsy - Spinarak or Heracross, Morty - Misdreavus, Chuck - Hitmontop)
>Level scaling is still messed up unless you go for Lake of Rage/Team Rocket Mahogany base right after Ecruteak
>Lance's triple underleveled Dragonites and not one Tyranitar for Johto challengers
>Several good Johto mons are still only in Kanto (ie Houndour and Murkrow)
>Battle pace is still pretty slow coming from DPt; lacked a good balance of quick attack animations and health depletion/recovery
Seems like when developing HG/SS, GF added a ton of great stuff to overshadow the original problems from GSC they didn't fix or tweak for whatever reason.
>>345468493
Too bad the designs are retarded
Did not fix the level-scaling issues present in the original games.
Following Pokemon mandatory instead of optional, causing mild slowdown.
Remixed music is not on par with the remixed music present in Fire Red and Leaf Green.
GB Sounds music not literally the GB sounds.
Obtuse gym leader rematches.
As for what went right: Seafoam Islands and Viridian Forest not gimped like in the originals.
>>345466525
>Unable to re-duel trainers
You can, even though it's not as convenient as a Vs Seeker (which should be in every game since its creation.)
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/rematch.shtml
>>345468010
You could do that in the original too.
My cousin played through gsc after fucking up his cart steamrolled through the whole game in 5 hours with just his starter typhlosion. You can't knock the remake for sticking to it's roots.
>>345466802
>>345466952
It does work, I remember my Action Replay having the codes for it early too. It's a great reason to "cheat" when it doesn't directly change the gameplay
>>345469359
The originals are trash.
>Sticking to its roots.
No, it's called bad game design, and zero play testing .
>>345470069
>a game is piss easy
>Must not have play tested it
Or you know it was made for children. Whatever works.
>>345470069
Makes me wonder if we'll ever get a mainline game that slightly edits more trainers based on your starter to give them more type advantage.
>>345468493
>>Hard mode
no one actually got to play this setting their first time through, lmao.
The problem is the base game had leveling problems. You can't fix that while still being faithful to the originals.
>>345470431
Children aren't retards. I beat SMB3 and LoZ when I was 6.
>>345468493
>Hard mode
Still mad over how they handled this shit. Picked up a used Black 2 with Challenge Mode unlocked and started a new game because why the fuck would the unlocked difficulties be deleted? Turns out I was wrong and now I'm steamrolling starter only to unlock it again. I predict Battle animations, Text Speed, and Shift/Set will eventually be forced-to-trade options too if B2/W2's difficulty system was made by a group of actual people that all agreed it was a good idea.
>>345471057
That's nice. Good for you.
>>345464891
>slow
>shit pokemon to find
>mostly geodudes, graveller and zubat
>fucked up level scaling still wasn't fixed
>Dark cave had shit music replacing the better one
>slow
>>345468010
Every pokemon game that isnt a spin off is too easy, so thats not a valid argument to say that its worse than the rest of the pokemon games.
>>345471321
They're all shit dude. Only the romhacks are good. Literally baby's first JRPG, not even trolling.
>But they're aimed at kids
Hey, remember Digimon World?
>>345464891
>Pokewalker wasn't compatible with every generation forward
Biggest mistake they made
>>345464891
Most people agree it is the best Pokemon game made so far. It takes all the best elements from every generation before it, implements the greatest generation's metagame and absolves itself from the newest garbage yet.
It has the best story, gameplay, map and experience and you can make any team from all the pokemon and transfer them in. Battles, contests, gyms, trainers, elite, all of it.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10746380/r
Just look.
>>345468010
>up the anti.
ante
>>345471945
Blame shit autocorrect bro. It also fucked up Kanto.
