>billions of planets with no variety
>flying around aimlessly
>creatures are all the same
>single player MP
>awful crafting system
>no gameplay
Why is /v/ so hyped for No Man's cash grab?
Because /v/ is full of neoFAG posters that are desperate for something to overhype about, since they'd been disappointing themselves so much from previous overhyped garbage.
Because a bunch of underage faggots have infested the board and they're too young to remember Spore.
>>345461647
>go to purple planet with red dinosaurs
>Shoot dinosaur
>get attacked by robot police
FUCKING GAMESTOP
>>345462171
I remember spore but they are very unrelated, only the hype is the same.
>>345461647
Look at this faggot's clothes. He's literally dressed like a fucking spoiled SJW.
>>345462615
Maybe he is looking for giant feminist hippos
>>345461647
>50 planets so far have been pretty unique.
>This is a problem why? Do you really need your hand held 24/7
>Again what we have seen are pretty different.
>The crafting system is the same as almost any other game.
>Has over 3 hours of game play out and countless other videos explaining it by fans.
>>345461647
BAIT BAIT BAIT
DONT REPLY
BAIT BAIT BAIT
>>345466026
Hurrrr durrrrr op disagrees with my opinion so he is baiting durrr
>>345461647
>>345466026
>mfw this post is probably the dev trying to fit in
>no man's sky fanboys
Literally why, the game isn't even out yet
We're all just bracing for disappointment
>>345466454
what is this image trying to say? that I have to imagine all the side activities?
>>345461647
Nobody is hyped
You are
There have been very few instances where procedural generation works well, and nothing is going to convince me that a AAA game/developer in the current state of the industry is going to use it to its fullest potential. This is the age of wanting to do as little work as possible to go home with as much money as possible, and the keywords PROCEDURAL GENERATION have that written all over it.
We will never hear of this scrawny fuck again after the game comes out, because he's fully aware of how the aftermath is going to unfold. He'll already be on his way to the bank while getting praised for the PROCEDURAL GENERATION that makes his game so bigfucking empty
Procedural generation really pisses me off, it's so lazy. The developer has taken no time to sculpt a world/universe of his own, he's letting procedural generation do all his work for him. So upsetting that it gets disregarded just because of how BIG the game supposedly is, when such a mechanic doesn't make it big at all
>>345466975
Thats pretty much it. There are some NPCs and faction stuff but its very Basic and no narrativa so people say its a game feature to have no story
>>345466454
Why should I have to spend $60 to use my imagination?
>>345467140
It has lore though, does that count as "narrative"?
Now that I mention it, there's even a comic on the way.
>>345466454
>using your imagination in a game where no imagination was used to create the world
wew
>>345467225
well that's the thing, you don't fucking have to. if imagination ain't your thing spend your 60 bucks on something else.
>>345467091
Procedural generation simply means using math to make things, not that it is random. KSP has procedurally generated planet surfaces (the point data would be insanely huge otherwise), but they are the same every time.
>>345466789
They are too young to know the crushing disappointment that spore brought to us
>attacked by massive Dino whose trying to turn me into lunch
>shoot back with squirt gun rifle in self defense while kiting away
> not even half a mag spent and robo-cop shows up "Halt criminal scum, you have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people!!"
>robo-cop starts shooting lasers and homing rockets out of his eyes Dino still chasing me
>run at an angle so that robo-cops shots would have to hit Dino before reaching me
>whatisobjectcollision.gif
>rocks and laser fire pass through massive Dino like he's not there
>run to ship and go for take off
>Dino clipping into the center of my ship while robo cop still pew pewing me
>leave planet
Demo has ended.
"This is a work in progress.... you can pre order over there"
Uhh no thanks anon
>>345466454
I bet the only real difference between the planets are color schemes
>>345467351
They still hired artists though, you still need imagination to make proc gen works, otherwise everything looks samey.
>>345467408
Implying underage have 60 bucks to spend
>>345461647
Because video games are fun
>>345467591
nope, that doesnt matter
I need someone telling me what to think and how to play to have fun
>>345461647
Lend me your copy anon, since you've obviously played it.
>>345466454
>I have to do what lazy devs didn't wanted to
pay me
>>345467091
you clearly have no concept of what goes into creating a good procedural generation system. they still designed ships, tools, galactic police, spacesuits and space stations which are not procedurally generated. you still have to establish parameters for everything, make sure they work, make sure they make sense and can reliably create algorithms that will work while still maintaining a sense of variety. these planets have characteristics including temperature and time of day night cycles that reflect their actual distance from their star and size of orbit. it would actually be impossible to make a game with this scale and content without procedural generation.
so yes while procedural generation makes the worlds, the work was in designing that system and huge amount of factors to work. call it what you want but it's not lazy.
Look at all these nu males try to defend this shit.
Infact I hope they preorder just so they waste their money and get to eat shit.
>>345467719
>>345467351
>>345467225
>>345466975
its ok when nintendo does it
why does the space travel look so fucking boring?
>>345461647
STAR CITIZEN IS A SCAM. YOU WILL NEVER GET YOUR MONEY BACK AND YOU WILL NEVER GET A GAME.
>>345468158
>YOU WILL NEVER GET YOUR MONEY BACK
>They gave a 4k refund to a backer
ok
>>345468007
What point are you trying to make? you don't have to imagine the story for Zelda, someone wrote it
>>345467892
NO IT'S FUCKING LAZY
THEY COULD'VE CREATED AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET BY HAND AND NO ONE WOULD'VE HEARD OR CARED OF THEIR GAME
INSTEAD THEY GOT AMBITIOUS AND NOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO PLAY THEIR GAME
FUCKING
LAZIES
CUNTS
>>345468502
in the game there is no story
you are dropped i the middle of a square environment and you just go. no one tells you shit in the game unless you approach them
>>345468520
Heard of Kerbal Space Program?
>lack of player imagination is a good excuse for poor developing
>/v/ bitches and moans about games focused purely on story and not on gameplay
>game comes out that focuses on gameplay and has almost no story
>/v/ bitches and moans about that game having no story and nothing to do
I hope this game does well and the developers make a lot of money just so you all are unhappy
>no variety
>>345469065
>focuses on gameplay
What gameplay?
>>345469349
https://repo.nmsdb.info/
if the game has nice music and a fair art direction im fine about it. Just lower your expectations guys, then you'll never be disappointed again.
Guys I have this awesome idea for a game.
It'll just be pretty flashing colors.
Players will have to invent the story.
>>345469384
And what is the reason to engage in any of these frankly limited systems? Even subnautica seems to have more engaging lore.
>>345469083
Yeah, it's all generic overcolored boring planets
>colored space
>>345469703
whats the reason to play any game?
>>345468407
>they gave
>gave
>willingly
>backer didn't had to get a lawyer and fill in a paper to get his money back
You are either a shill or a dev stealthposting
>>345469790
Colored's sky
>>345469790
colored space can be explained by nebulae
>>345469653
been done before
>>345461647
I just hope the OST is good.
>>345469959
No it can't that's not how nebulas work.
>>345468520
if it's so easy and lazy why don't you show all of us by coding your own procedural generation engine and getting it published and sold in stores? oh right you can't.
>>345469997
No, that's too much gameplay.
>>345470071
yes it is
>>345469790
>>345469876
Because you're engaged with the lore/story? Because it has compelling gameplay? Because it has competitive elements?
NMS holds nothing for me.
>>345470101
not really, most on the list only use movement
>>345470163
No it isn't
Those pictures with nebulas in them aren't the real colors, they're color enhanced via analyzing their ultraviolet and above spectra
>>345469703
To get to the center of the galaxy.
>>345470235
That's what I meant. I just want a screen with flashing colors. No controls whatsoever.
>>345470182
This grid contains multiple copies of certain screenshots, just with different colour hues. Yeah, so much variety.
>>345468632
>I don't immediately get sat down and have the story laid out for me the second I start the game
>this game has no story
Using this logic basically every game that exists has no story. plus your point is moot because there is a blurb in the game manual that describes Hyrule, Ganon, the triforce and all that
>>345470265
There's only one galaxy?
>>345470249
nuh uh
>>345470210
>NMS holds nothing for me.
But according to you you didn't even know it has gameplay 15 minutes ago.
I find it hard to believe you came into this thread unaware of that fact, then in 15 minutes decided that the gameplay wasn't compelling or that the lore was unengaging, did you make up your mind about the game before coming to this thread?
>>345461647
>Why is /v/ so hyped for No Man's cash grab?
They aren't.
This board has found every reason possible to hate this game and it isn't even out yet.
>>345470506
but, but, PROCEDURAL GENERATION MAKES IT INFINITELY LARGE AND THAT MAKES THE GAME GOOD !!!!!
>>345470182
Not only are there multiple screenshots that have just been flipped and had the color changed, there's also quite a few pieces of concept art. Quit grasping at straws trying to defend this crap game
>>345470462
>Using this logic basically every game that exists has no story. plus your point is moot because there is a blurb in the game manual that describes Hyrule, Ganon, the triforce and all that
its the exact point this thread has been bitching about
>game manual
who has time to read? i didnt buy a game to read a book, i want to play a game
>>345470163
>seeing nebulas
>on planets with breathable atmosphere
okay
>>345470506
https://repo.nmsdb.info/?info=Universe_or_Galaxy%3F
No, but you start in the same one as everyone else.
>>345470757
lol you just cant accept a more colorful art style rofl
>>345461647
Maybe if it had base building and wasn't the price of an AAA title, I'd buy it you fucking shill
>>345470829
So which galaxy's center should one look for?
Which galaxy's center is being referred to as "the center of the galaxy"?
>>345470689
>>345470689
How autistic are you? I ask "what gameplay?" because I believe that the gameplay is seriously lacking, not because I literally believe that there is no gameplay.
Go on then, give me one thing that this game does that has not been done better by any other game.
>>345462416
Yeah, at leasts spore was fun for these few hours
>>345470970
The one you start in, I dunno how you're supposed to travel to one galaxy to the other, so far we've only seen interstellar travels which is done by warping from one star system to the other.
>>345471063
procedural generation, yes it has been done before, but not as amazing as this
Here's a fun fact for all of you: If you've already grown bored of these threads that we see all the time on No Man's Sky, then you will find that you will get bored of the game just as fast. It's got about that much variety per thread (planet) and you will very quickly realize that you're seeing the same shit over and over again.
This game is like browsing /v/, only there are 100% less memes and 100% more grass/trees/animals.
Personally I would take the memes. This game is going to suck.
>>345471205
>yes it has been done before, but not as amazing as this
Explain?
>>345471063
>I was just pretending
Ah, I'm sorry then.
>Go on then, give me one thing that this game does that has not been done better by any other game.
Planets which are actually interesting? Even SE's planets, which are considered the best one as far as I know, are really not all that interesting to walk around, they're mostly there to be watched from a distance or to show off the sky from there.
>>345471349
10/10
>>345471381
other games used procedural generation but this is a masterpiece of world creation that definitely outdoes any other thing
65DAYSOFSTATIC
>>345471381
diablo 2
l4d1/l4d2
minecraft (duh)
SCP
dwarf fortressSpore
>>345471408
I wasn't just pretending, you just don't understand exaggeration. Don't worry, I think they teach it when you get to 6th grade.
I don't see what these planets have to offer that hasn't been seen in terraria, for example. Simple resource chunks with basic AI wildlife.
>>345471610
So what you're saying is we've seen all this shit before and we shouldn't waste our money on NMS? Good idea.
>>345471714
Too bad that you don't see it, it looks pretty good from where I standing.
>>345471878
no, retard. those games have procedural generation but dont even come close to nms' world gen
>>345468520
Not lazy, Just poor direction for the game.
>>345471983
Look past the cool graphics and I think you'll get bored. I hope I'm wrong but really sceptical. Hoping it can be done better in the future.
>>345471994
>dwarf fortress
>dont even come close to nms' world gen
>>345471994
What's so special about NMS procedural gen compared to the procedural gen in those games then?
>>345472161
>Apples
>Oranges
>>345471878
Yes?
This is just Spore 2.0, devs promised a lot of shit and make it look like theres a lot to do, but in after playing it for 2 hours maybe or after getting out of your starter planet you will realize everything its the same with a different filter, I remember having fun during the cell stage, then moved into the pre-tribe and had a little less fun but still was interesting, after the city stage (which was a fucking chore) and the whole space stage was a fucking chore that I finished because I wanted to know how it ended, how unsurprising it was when there was no end and I just wasted half a day.
>>345472227
way more variety in terms of generation, yes, minecraft has biomes, but there are too many clear patterns in those games
>>345467674
Yo lets see how far this gets you a week into owning the game faggot
>>345472227
>having this little understanding what procedural generation is
>>345472227
Here's a video to explain it. It's pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KHLwQ9IY-s
>>345472270
I agree man, I'm glad some of us are old enough to remember that train wreck.
>>345472338
Not too impressed by variety so far, worlds seem fairly samey, guess we'll see on release.
>>345472360
Explain where I'm going wrong then pls?
People getting angry about this game is hilarious. Why are most of you so mad that this game is coming out, to the point you feel the need to post about it. You're spouting your opinions when it doesn't matter. What's the endgame? I'm sure most of you who are bashing a game you never played, making assumptions on the variety of planets, play Pokemon Go. I'm sure in arguments on how that game isn't even a game, you get all defensive.
Losers.
>>345472547
procedural generation can be as simple or as complex as you design it to be, there isnt a finite scalability to the possible permutations of creatures/biomes/etc.
>>345472683
>why are you posting about it if you don't like it lol
Because we're consumers and we have every right to critique something we have to pay for. People like you are the fucking worst.
>>345472838
>we have to pay for
>someone is pointing a gun to my head and forcing me to buy a crappy game
>>345472264
you're the one who originally compared NMS' procedural gen to everything else retard
>>345472729
There's absolutely no way that the developer has created as much content as they say though. They're lying through their teeth and people aren't happy about it
>>345472923
different guy m8y :^)
>>345472264
>two game with the same main goal to create interesting procedurally generated world
>>345472838
If that was your idea you'll take your "critique" to the dev or somewhere public where it can be read. Instead you repeat it over and over on 4chan, and by tomorrow that thread will be gone and you would have achieved nothing
Lmao what a loser
>>345472683
You should expect the best from games and not settle for overhyped shit.
>>345472387
Thanks for the vid, interesting.
>>345472729
Yeah but you can make it as complex as you want, it must serve a purpose and complement the gameplay. Not convinced so far.
>>345472915
I'm not being forced to buy it, but if I have to pay for it in order to obtain it I am a potential consumer. I have every right to do my research before I throw my money at something, and with that I can decide if something seems good or shit. I'm sorry you don't seem to have the mental capacity to think or consider this.
>>345473013
>fruit
>>345472838
but you don't HAVE to pay for it at all, you are under no obligation to buy it or even play it.
>>345473060
Oh yeah because we have such a chance of communicating with the developer right? You're retarded dude, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to reach out to them. The best thing I can do is bad mouth it in hopes of it impacting people's judgement and hopefully the sales,because it's going to be the disappointment of the year
>>345472547
>le spore2.0 meme
wow us oldfags right nobody has ever made this comparison before
the difference is that there's nothing over-promised about NMS. it's your own fault if you're expecting things that haven't been said to be features by this point.
You CAN say that the game itself is shallow, because it is, there's hardly anything to do. But the devs aren't lying to you and tricking you into thinking it's GTA meets Elder Scrolls meets EVE meets Minecraft or something.
>>345473095
the game is targeted towards more intellectually mature audiences. not MUH HARDCORE RAIL SHOOTERS COD BF gamers
you are not a potential customer
>>345473305
Wow, you dropped the "IT'S A CRITIQUE" excuse pretty fast.
>>345469083
1. green planet
2. pink planet
3. orange planet
4. tan planet
nice post, keep it up! You only have 4,999,999,996 more planets to go!
>>345473427
>the game is targeted towards more intellectually mature audiences
And what makes you think that? Because you sit around wasting your time for something to happen? I understand that you're retarded but not everything has to be an extreme
>>345473423
>theres nothing promised about NMS
>trailers and "gameplay" videos are nothing but promises
lol
>>345473710
What have they shown you in that gameplay? oh yeah, just exploring
wow it's fucking nothing
Are there going to be planets with different biomes?
Look at the biodiversity of Earth, and then look at >>345466454 and you start to think that those could all be pictures of the same planet.
Of course, I doubt they'd go that in-depth. I'm betting that the surface of a planet is going to largely look the same across the entire thing, unless they've specifically stated otherwise.
>>345473427
>i play games for mature gamers such as myself
has the pendulum really swung this far?
>>345473427
Cod guy is here
>>345473804
no, they will be single biome.
that's how limited a $60 game is going to be
>>345473427
you don't know how retarded you sound
>>345473778
Pretty much, it's an exploration game, with shit exploration.
>>345471408
>interesting
NMS engine is incapable of creating anything interesting. It doesn't support large scale generation for the same reason it doesn't have more than one biome per planet.
>>345473427
hey it's cod guy, always there to defend nu man's beard every hour
>>345462034
I thought /v/ was full of contrarian faggots who want games to fail spectacularly so they post sick memes about it.
>>345473778
THATS THE POINT YOU FUCKING NIGGLET, THE WHOLE GAME IT'S FUCKING NOTHING.
>>345466454
> via 9gag.com
But seriously, I'm still looking forward to this game. There arent many decent space sim games out there right now.
>>345473423
>wow us oldfags right
Spotted the mad newfag. The spore comparisons are apt for the way that NMS has a huge world but nothing to do.
>>345474196
I can't tell if you're typing in caps out of agreement or anger
>>345474196
>being this mad
>in this thread
>/v/irgins complaining this game isn't going to be a literal masterpiece that lets you do EVERYTHING
>even though the developers have laid out what you can and can't do
>/v/ is still mad it's not going to be some impossibly demanding supergame that nobody has ever been able to make, but this group of like 15 guys should be able to.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b8ml0Dr.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>345474196
Whoa... It's so fucking deep...
>>345467591
>everything looks samey
but they will once you see a few of them
>>345474341
>>345474341
It's their fault for marketing as a game with infinite possibilities and a "LIFETIME OF CONTENT"
>>345474157
Except people know the game is shit with its bloated bajillion planets as its selling point so the contrarian thing is to praise it. Plus ironic shilling is still the fad.
>>345474341
>severely limited, shallow gameplay
>uninteresting world
>$60
It deserves criticism.
>>345473778
>What have they shown you in that gameplay? oh yeah, just exploring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uMFHoF8VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmJ8k9uBB0
>>345469083
You realize it's like the same 9 images just with different colors, right?
>>345474341
Why try so hard to manufacture hype on such a bland game then?
With 3 threads on the topic a day they're trying to create the impression "this is THE game man" when we all know it fucking isn't. Then they get pissy and hostile when anons pick the hype machine apart with questions, inane or not.
>>345473613
because everything from the art style to the lore is aping on old school science fiction novels. the type with a cover that would capture your imagination and be the only pic you get. it's aimed at older sci fi fans, not typical cowadooty casuals.
>>345474341
>even though the developers have laid out what you can and can't do
You mean all the questions they've dodged all the time they said "You can do X but we aren't going to show it!"
>>345474772
>being this desperate to try to diss the game
>>345474772
woosh
>>345475140
>woosh
did you come here straight from the youtube comments section? fuck off
>>345475256
woosh
>>345474772
damn...
>>345473804
single biome per planet, but there are many different biomes.
>>345461647
>Make game
>Sell game
NO MAN'S CASH GRAB AM I RIGHT GUYS???
>>345468632
>>345468632
>didn't read the booklet
>skips the in-game story
>complains because the game "has no story"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyMKWJ5e1kg
Try harder shill dev
>>345475256
the point
_____________
your head
>>345470462
>>345475508
no one is complainig that zelda has no story you fucking oompa loompas. they're using it as a comparison to show that nms can also have a story.
>>345475505
>make game
>lazily develop it
>build hype
>build more hype
>get shills on /v/
>sell half-assed game for $60
>make millions
>>345475119
>being so desperate to praise a game you make an intentionally misleading, exaggerated image
>>345470898
neat, all those different planets to explore and all the different things that can happen gonna be GOTYAY
>>345475676
a team of thirteen have made a 3d proc gen game styled on golden era sci fi with voxel planets, online functionality and rpg elements and 4chan are calling it a cynical cash grab
kill me now
>>345475738
no one apart from false flaggers would try to do that.
>>345475676
you neglected the part where sony picked up the game for a huge chunk of profit to shill it with their massive PR department
this game would have bombed hard if it was PC only, need that console market to fall for these levels of bullshit
>>345461647
Someone told me all the features it has and it reminds me a lot of Starflight, which is an awesome game.
I'm a little worried it could not live up t my expectations, but that's just the /v/ shit flinging getting to me, I'm sure it will be good, if not great.
>>345475882
>online functionality
YOU JUST HAVE TO CHECK THE BOX FOR PS AND XBOX
>>345475971
wtf isn't a false flag like sandy hook hoax?
>>345475984
yeah it appeals to the casuals on ps4 as well
Reminder that spaceengine already did this much better and it was made by a single developer and released for free
>>345476887
The funny thing is that I'm certain even the space engine dev would call you out on your bullshit.
Well
It's going to sell like hotcakes AND it's basically all singleplayer, so at least I'll have no issues pirating it :^)
>>345475650
but they're not similar in any way and that comparison is dogshit.
Zelda has a backstory, a path you have to take, certain items you have to get, has an ending, you don't need to do any storytelling yourself. NMS is literally just flying around, there's no story, no end point, no real reason to do anything, and if there's going to be a story you have to make it up yourself (?)
>>345475650
But we already know it doesn't.
>>345474134
>>345461647
>>345462034
>>345462171
>>345466653
thanks
just bought the game
kys soon :)
>>345471610
>Dwarf Fortress is and always will be both more advanced and more fun than NMS
>>345472387
>wonder if the person in the video is a girl or a kid
>it's a ftm tranny
welp
Why do indie devs do this so much?
>>345466454
No Man's Sky is merely a social experiment in discovering just what bullshit gamers are likely to believe. This data will be used by Hello Games to turn them into marketing consultants who will be employed by big devs and pubs all over. Devs are wondering just how easily-brainwashed gamers can become, to the levels where they may take on a level of religious fanaticism of sorts.
Think about it: No Man's Sky purportedly has eighteen quintillion planets to explore. It is marketed that it would take one person 585 billion years to explore every invididual planet for just one second each. As if you're going to know in that miniscule space of time whether the planets are alike or unalike, right? So then who actually fucking cares whether the planets are alike or unalike. It is LITERALLY unprovable with current technology and current human lifespans. So then why make a song and dance about it? Because gamers are proving that they will eat up turds just because the turd has been marketed in a way that makes it appealing.
Also, the game is always-online, so it knows which planets you've visited and which you haven't. There is such a low mathematical probability that players will explore the same planets, and the system can procedurally generate vastly different planets based on an algorithm that looks at the stats of already-visited planets. That algorithm can simply randomize the planetary stats to extremes and gradually make them more subtle as the player explores more planets. And it will fucking have to because planetary stats are limited to a finite number of sliders.
It's all bullshit that cannot be proved, so discussing the game is a moot point because nobody can prove either way just how deep this game is. But DEFENDING the game for its depth is a special kind of retarded, because these people defend the game on faith, rather than evidence.
>>345478625
Yes, you're right
>>345475882
>rpg elements
Such as? A bare-bones crafting system and leveling up your ship fives times down a single path aren't RPG elements. And if they are, they're very, very poor examples.
>>345474134
is this the face of God?
>try to repeat a good experience play you had
>you can't because the RNG will put different stuff
Space Engine > NMS
>>345473427
walking is now considered intellectual?
>>345461647
This game will likely fail, which is fine. But when it comes out, devs should consider using the engine for this game to make other games look good and seamless. If anything, this will be a good tech demo.
>>345478587
>>345461647
Daily reminder that those 18 quintilion planets are made up of 64 different variables that can be either on or off.
This will replace Spore as the biggest disappointment
>>345479762
is there anything that can stop pc players from cheating in offline mode and spoiling what's at the center of galaxy to everyone?
>>345480349
why are you posting an image of yourself?
>>345480471
How do you know its me?
>>345480413
lol look at this salty as fuck console peasant that refuses to git gud
>>345480413
>guys how do I avoid spoilers?
New to not just 4chan but the fucking internet as a whole. Holy shit.
>>345480413
They will be there even before the game is released.
If this game was multiplayer and players could build their own empire and send armadas to invade other players' planets then I'd be fucking sold
The fact that it's single player kills it for me
>>345481212
>send armadas to invade other players' planets
Planets reset when you leave them
>>345481373
lol what a joke
