Switch the cross-pad for the left joystick and center the camera and I'm okay
>>345438307
Why the fuck are thos ABXY buttons so terribly placed?
Most people botches and moans at the two screens handhelds but right now, if I think about it, I want all the next handheld to have to screens. Not all games implements them in good ways but having just the inventory on the second screen is a blessing.
>>345438307
Nah I like the second screen.
I'm not a fan of gaming on flip devices
>>345438496
i disagree but i understand where you are coming from
>>345438307
Give it 3 more screens.
>>345438307
You mean this?
>>345438307
>hinge
No
>>345438901
No.
I don't want a cheap Chinese toy.
I hope the next gen nintendo and sony handhelds have smart phone capability, so i dont have to carry 2 things around
Id also like a small handheld that could emulate gamecube and ps2 games
>>345438307
>d-pad and buttons not in the same x-axis
>on a thing that will certainly be used 90% of the time for emulation
I'd rather have something like this :^)
>>345438307
needs another screen
What about this?
>>345438307
I dunno. Something like the Nvidia shield / Pyra, but with steam controller touch pads and xbox messenger kit style keyboard.
It wouldn't be pocketable but it'd have plenty of space for the battery.
>>345439219
That's a pretty cool design
I would make the lower screen just a tiny bit larger
Whatever the analog things are .. fucking awful.
At no point is a little circle pad conducive to responsiveness and accuracy. They've been shit since the PSP.
No, it needs ergonomics.
Step out of my way you shits!
>>345439219
My hand cramped just looking at that.
>>345440591
yeah the button placement isn't optimal, but I love the idea.
>>345440258
>side usb
oh my fuck
>>345438307
i want the Nokia NGE or whatever the fuck their gaming phone was and Tony Hawk on that (or all games now when the dust has settled?). would be so cool
>>345439436
The 3ds circle pad is great though.
>>345441219
I prefer a normal circle pad, but it's great for handhelds.
>>345440258
Yeah, that micro USB is probably strong enough to hold that screen up. Holding that for any extended period of time would be uncomfortable or unsafe as fuck. You'd either have to hold up the top with your fingers or risk it snapping the micro USB off.
>>345441705
I'm not good enough at photoshop but I'd think there would be additional support built into the gamepad, like a kind of cradling mold that reinforced the back of the phone and holds it sturdy.
>>345441705
You can just have some sort of support that snaps in to remove stress from the USB
>>345438560
Gamecube.
>>345439219
I would take this, but with the bottom section a flat screen like that old NX leak. Otherwise the buttons will be crushed or just plain won't fit when slid back in, that or it would have to be chunky as fuck. Just make the entire bottom section a very responsive touchscreen with two VERY flat joysticks.
>>345441957
Virtual buttons are horrible and you should feel horrible for ever wanting them
>>345441808
>>345441767
I thought about that, but doesn't that remove some of the benefit of having it split in half? Seems like if you're going to have to have additional supports built into the controller portion, you might as well just have a separate phone and handheld.
>>345442113
How do some tiny bits of plastic sticking into the phone make the whole deal worthless?
>>345442113
nah the point is you want the disconnected phone look as normal as possible so normal people don't laugh at how pathetic you are, but make it easy to plug in a peripheral without it looking like a piece of shit like it does with huge after-market controllers.
Right now if you want to have a controller for your phone you can either use a huge wired/wireless one like a playstation sized pad that you obviously won't want in your pocket, or you can buy a tiny wireless one that has shit latency and doesn't feel that comfortable.
If you did the half and half design, you've got no wires, no latency and the halves can fit in each of your pockets.
If you could do that and keep it somewhat sturdy it would be perfect in my opinion.
>>345438307
That left stick looks completely unusable in that formfactor. Also no reason for clamshell if you don't have the second screen, unless you really wanna give the thing a big screen.
>>345442194
Just seems cumbersome in my mind. The whole idea is a bit silly to me, anyways, as handhelds as they are aren't an issue for me to use in public because I'm not constantly concerned with what "normies" think of me.
>>345442275
If it's just a controller for emulators, that makes sense. I was thinking as a package deal replacement for a handheld like the 3DS, it seems a bit silly.
>>345442406
>Just seems cumbersome in my mind
How is some 5mm bits of plastic sticking out making a controller more cumbersome than it already is?
I just want something like this, with more buttons and a catalog obviously bigger than gba.
>>345442515
Not only do you have to take the time to get the controller bit out, you've gotta make sure the plastic bits don't snap as you connect them to the phone. All because you're too insecure to use a 3DS in public.
>>345442554
Pic related fuck
>no second scene
i might like it as a handheld device but no fucking way i want that thing bundle with my console
>>345438901
No, like this
>>345442307
The left stick is like
in the same place it is on the fucking actual 3DS though
>>345440258
>>345441049
This would work if it was a magnetic hinge with pogo pins like the surface pro.
>>345438307
>a button in the bottom
Fuck off.
>>345438560
>>345442307
Do you niggers even know nintendo controllers
>>345438307
No, losing the 2nd screen would be immeasurably bad.
>>345440258
I like the idea
>>345442653
Fucked up, I meant right stick.
>>345438307
No. The fold in half design needs to be completely scrapped, it's not ergonomic at all and shifts the devices center of balance to a point where it's uncomfortable to hold in many positions for long periods of time.
Second, they need to dumb that rectangle with rounded corners design. It's also stupidly uncomfortable to hold.
I know they're going for portability, but when the battery life for these handhelds is only a few hours long no one gives a fuck, you cannot take them anywhere. Give us something that is comfortable to hold and not a boneitis carpal tunnel syndrome inducing device.
>>345442726
Except that's wrong.
X
YA
B
Has always been the Nintendo configuration.
Nintendo needs to use the top screen for more than just speakers and screen, it's a massive waste of space as is, put the SD/microSD port there at least, or even put to SoC in there and have the whole bottom part of the console be controls, battery and the likely massive cartridge slot.
This has the added bonus of the SoC can get pretty warm without it being uncomfortable since you don't touch the top screen
>>345442628
This actually the phone for emulators
>>345442898
Not true, look at the gamecube, which this nigger was modeling it on for some reason
It's not wrong, just not super right
>>345442884
>get circle pad pro
>becomes super comfy to hold
>no CPP for N3DS, no comfy form factor and forced to use that dumb analog nipple
>>345442969
Even that's dumb since the Gamecube didn't even use the traditional cross pattern.
>>345443020
Circle pad pro improves it, but it's still shitty. It adds extra weight to an already poorly balanced device, thus further increasing wrist fatigue.
And you know... It's an attachment you need to buy because the 3DS has the worst design for any handheld ever made.
>>345442884
Why is the battery life so shit anyway?
They're so much bigger than phones and the hardware is way shittier.
Surely nintendo could have fit a bigger battery in there.
1750mah for the XL is ridiculous that's only slightly larger than the 4 inch iphones.
See this is what concerns me. With Nintendo's obsession (though to be honest, I actually like it) of making their consoles backwards compatible, but introducing more and more gimmicks, they can't get rid of certain elements without making things awkward. You could have a portable with just 1 bigger touch screen that, vertically held, could show both 3ds screens, but it would be pretty shitty given that they have a different resolution and some games actually use both touchscreen and physical buttons.
It's a fucking mess.
And I do see an issue with upscaling anything. I still can't get used to DS games on the 3DS.
>>345443285
Speaking of, my battery on my original 3DS is fucking dead as of today
charged it after months of no use and I pick it up, mother fucker was expanding enough to push the back off a bit
>>345438307
oh my god
I never realized how much I want GameCube button positions but in a cross pattern.
>>345443143
True that, I wasn't defending the design, but ever since getting CPP it feels odd holding the 3DS without it. It's super annoying that there's not even an option for N3DS.
>>345443285
Two screens and the 3D gimmick.
It's also packed full of extra shit that is using battery power even if it's not actually being used by the game (like wifi, the camera and mic).
>>345442608
So a vita?
>>345443465
Phones have a cellular antenna on top of all that.
Also yeah it has 2 screens, but it also has 2 screens worth of room for battery.
Just stick a second battery behind the top screen or something what the fuck.
>>345440258
Please somebody make this happen before I grow too old to grind RPGs any longer
>>345443613
I said a catalog bigger than GBA
Hell at least have the decency to say the PSP next time
>>345443285
Maybe try not always leaving the system open at full brightness with speakers on full blast, 3D slider all the way up, and wi-fi on and never recharging it before draining all the power which is how your battery goes to shit faster.
>>345443635
It's got one battery not two, and unlike a phone, the 3DS always has it's camera and mic enabled. It really is a badly designed handheld.
>>345443705
>with speakers on full blast
As someone who has used the audio app on the original 3DS for over 100 hours,
The difference between full blast and not at all is completely negligible as long as the 3DS is TRYING to play audio.
It played for a good 7 hours either way.
>>345443705
Well yeah but if you did that to a phone or a tablet they'd last like 14-16 hours, except nobody does and that's why people still complain most phones can't last a whole day.
It's -possible- to get more out of it, that doesn't mean 7 hours max battery life isn't complete shit.
>>345443706
>It's got one battery not two
Yeah i know, i'm just saying it's got more room than a phone.
It's got about the same profile size as a medium to large phablet and it's a lot thicker, nearly 3 times thicker than most phones are now when closed.
1750mah is abysmal for a device that large. even ~2500 would be kind of shitty but i'd accept that since maybe making room for the DS cartridge slot would be difficult.
>>345438628
>botches
You silly goose
>>345443929
Interesting, I'll just take your word for that since I mostly assumed that full volume would take more battery power, but since I'm not a cretin I don't try as hard as possible to rape the battery life on my handhelds.
Point still stands about everything else though.
>>345443936
>Well yeah but if you did that to a phone or a tablet they'd last like 14-16 hours, except nobody does and that's why people still complain most phones can't last a whole day.
Show me ONE phone or tablet that would last that long in those conditions, because I don't believe you.
>It's -possible- to get more out of it, that doesn't mean 7 hours max battery life isn't complete shit.
That's like an entire day of gaming, how the hell do you need more battery life beyond that?
>>345438705
Mi'opinion
>>345440258
This seem really cool.
Though perhaps maybe change the charger. With something like that it can break easily.
>>345444636
>Show me ONE phone or tablet that would last that long in those conditions, because I don't believe you.
In those conditions? I meant if you turned a phone's brightness all the way down put it in aeroplane mode like you suggested to do to the 3ds
There are quite a few phones that can last longer than 14 hours of screen on time playing a video or some shit in those conditions like the redmi 3, galaxy s7 edge, galaxy note 4, and even the iphone SE bizarrely.
>>345443705
>and never recharging it before draining all the power which is how your battery goes to shit faster.
That's NiMH batteries, fully draining a lithium battery actually kills it, that's why phones and shit will turn off before it fully drains, the battery usually has fully drainage protection too but the manufacturers want to be really sure.
Yes please!
*holds out hand*
>>345445341
>In those conditions? I meant if you turned a phone's brightness all the way down put it in aeroplane mode like you suggested to do to the 3ds
My mistake then, but I'll just point out that the battery still lasts plenty of time if you don't try as hard as possible to drain it and not only at minimum brightness and all that.
>>345442628
>those useless trackpad sticks
buttons were amazing for emulation though
>>345445641
Yeah but minimu brightness on those things is basically unusable. Usually anything other than second from the top looks like ass on nintendo devices, the whites come out grey.
>>345445752
Right, that's why I said you don't need to do that to have plenty of battery life.
>>345440258
>>345441705
>>345441767
>What are ribbons
>>345445274
Just add extra supports that support the strain of holding the screen. Don't put all the weight on the port and it'll be fine.
