What went wrong?
You spend more of the game playing as some bigger than you do playing as Masterchief.
>>345417046
your mother forgot to abort you
and gaylo was also gay and shit
>>345417046
The campaign. Multiplayer is the best we have this generation. Maybe ever.
>>345417046
343 Industries
Nothing(expect the story was weak) the gameplay is sublime
>>345417046
The great audio story that led up to the game's campaign was the biggest letdown of 2015.
Good lord I was angry, especially after MGS V
>>345417210
>Maybe ever
You must be 18 years old to post on this Mayalsian mud carving site.
>>345417046
people just stopped giving a shit about halo
Fanfiction tier story.
Bland, generic art style.
Overly linear levels.
Sprinting ruins map flow.
An over reliance on the assumption that the player has read the books and is up to date with the lore.
Forgettable music.
I could go on and on, but I don't want to depress myself any further.
>>345417189
>>345417210
>>345417254
These
>Have an Xbone from prime day last week sitting in my closet waiting to sell oj Ebay
Shame I would have loved to keep it if the library wasnt forgetable shit.
>>345417210
>Completely ruins big team battles, the heart of Halo multiplayer
>Best
Try again 343 shill
>>345417483
Fuck off Bungie shill
>>345417483
heart of halo multi is 2v2 you fucking secondary
>>345417548
Bungie blows dick now, that still doesn't change the fact that Halo 5 is a mediocre shooter that ruins the traditional Halo gameplay.
Campaign was cut in many pieces, you can tell from the different perspective switches.
Multi was too jarring to casuals who left it for blops 3 anyways. The multi was pretty damn competitive and you get shit on without a full party.
most of the diehard halo players are in there late 20's to early 30's and 343 just can't seem to get the new gen into halo, Microsoft is partially to blame with the abysmal launch of the one and 343 botched mcc. so you're stuck with a awkward demographic of diehard fans who wish to see an influx of new players but probably never will. until halo 6 is on pc then every "lel thanks for beta testing faggots pc forever comes in, but they'll just pirate it.
>>345417809
Again, fuck off Bungie
>>345417862
Great argument
>>345418086
What as your argument, again? Oh yeah, calling someone a shill.
>>345418502
>implying that was me
fighting that one fuckin boss 4-5 times, especially on legendary by myself. FUCK
>>345417046
Apparently your dad's vasectomy.
>>345418652
gotta admit it though, eternal warden was cool as fuck. hope he's in 6.he isn't dead, right?
What didn't? It's fucking atrocious. Worst game of last year, and this gen in general. Not Halo at all, just an awful bastardization.
>>345417210
>>345417254
This
>>345417357
>An over reliance on the assumption that the player has read the books and is up to date with the lore.
Fuck off with that shit, Halo 4 and 5 both are more understandable and are more self explanatory for the concepts and things they introduce then CE way by a huge margin.
>>345418886
Mind explaining instead of just whining?
They fucking ruined firefight for one. Probably one of the worst games I've ever played. Just terrible.
>>345417046
>Campaign lacks any depth
>Everything you need or want to know in game is explained off screen
>action is done during cutscene
>exposition is during gameplay
>MP is good but lacks any sort of variety
>90% of all unlocks goes to one (1) mode
>took 8 months to get any semblance of content
I'm sure there's more I'm missing but there's a character limit
>>345419085
If you haven't read the books, you aren't going to have a clue who Blue team is. Their relationship with the Chief never gets explained, all you know if you haven't read the books is that they're Spartans and they're friends apparently.
Halo 1 explains all the characters and story within it's game. The books are just back story and lore and are not vital to understanding the events of the original trilogy.
>>345417046
It gets better with every update its not as bad as when it first came out
>>345417210
>Multiplayer is the best we have this generation
It's shit
>343 says they have a population comparable to Halo 3
>still won't implement party restrictions because they say it'll make matchmaking too long
Fuck 343
Love the multiplayer but what the fuck is up with the story mode.
From the advertisements I assumed it was going to be a split story where you can choose to be chief or locke and one dies depending who you picked.
Then there's a hidden ending where both live and halo 6 happens.
lol i thought youd be taller
>>345418792
>mfw eternal warden round 5 on firefight
Campaign is shit, multiplayer is worse.
>>345418792
He's dumb as fuck and shows up for absolutely no reason. Fuck that bullet sponge.
>>345419428
don't get me wrong the three warden fight on legendary was the pinnacle of bullshit. why he was reused so many fucking times is beyond me. but i like his voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98U8HdDTgxI
>>345419357
They literally lied throughout their entire marketing campaign. It was all just a big misunderstanding that could have been avoided by talking for 5 minutes.
Firefight is fucked
>Everything hits like a Semi-truck
>Infinite lives
>Five rounds ranging from EzPz to NUCLEAR
>8 man teams
>Clusterfuck amounts of enemies
>Bosses on Round 5/6 are nearly impossible to beat unless every single person on your fireteam uses their mythic reqs
It just failed to capture Firefight, even Reach did it better.
I just want muh 4-man squad that relied on actual skill back.
>>345419273
I completely disagree.
CE does not explain what the UNSC is, what SPARTAN's are, what the Covenant is, why you are fighting, it explains absolutely nothing other then "Oh shit, a ringworld was found, and you are also being chased by aliens that hate you cause religion".
Bitching that "People don't know who blue team is" is like bitching that people didn't know who cortana was in CE, since plebs who didn't read the books would for both have no isuea who they are, and then get introduced to them with John having some banter with them and acting familar with them.
Likewise, you don't need to know anything more about the didact in halo 4 beyond "He's bad, take him out" any more then you did regarding the covenant as a whole in CE.
>Halo 1 explains all the characters and story within it's game.
How does CE explain cortana, keyes, or johnson any more then 4 does the didact, for reference? I'd argue if anything the didact got way more explained shit about him in game then they did combined.Also, if they haven't read tFoR by now that's there own damn fault. It's fine to say for the newer books it's unfair to have the games depend on them, but tFoR is fucking older then CE, they have no excuse to have not read it. But again, I dispute the claim the books are needed to understand 4 and 5 to begin with
>>345419357
>>345419678
CE, 2 and 3's advertising was just as inaccurate, but /v/ is too filled with underfags to remember.
Halo's marketing campaigns are always like this. It was your own fault for not expecting it to be only loosely related at best.
>barely sold more than a million copies
Thank god we're never getting a Halo 6. Halo Wars 2 flopping will be the final nail in 343's much deserved coffin.
>>345419563
>multiplayer is worse.
Objectively incorrect. What the hell makes you think that?
>>345419798
>original firefight was about defending against waves of approaching enemies
>Halo 5's firefight is roaming around a reused warzone map, playing whack a mole with certain enemy types
>when you do get a defend objective, enemies can spawn or dropship right outside the front door
It doesn't even resemble firefight. They should have just called it something else.
>>345419576
The thing is if Eternal Warden wasn't part of the story, you'd literally have no enemies to fight as Master Chief since Cortana didn't want to kill him.
>>345419863
>Not getting halo 6
you bet your ass we are getting halo 6, microsoft is now hellbent with pc/xbox cross play and everything being universal. besides people spent shit tons on req.
>>345419798
343 doesn't understand how to do PVE at all, the way they make it difficult is bullshit. Nobody wants to spray thousands of bullets into bullet sponges.
>>345420076
Then maybe Brian Reed should fuck off
>>345420046
That's one smug Spartan :O
>>345419863
>no halo 6
It's Microsofts flagship title, do you honestly think there won't be another?
I just wish it'd be ODST 2 or something.
>>345419798
It's so fucking shit. Absolutely nothing about it and the bullet sponge bosses is Firefight mode at all. It's also impossible to beat the banshee boss wave because nobody ever has flying vehicle reqs and there are no anti-aircraft weapons otherwise. Fuck 343 for ruining such a great mode with one hit deaths and other stupid bullshit.
>>345417210
>Multiplayer is the best we have this generation
Someone obviously didn't play Titanfall.
>>345420220
That's not Battlefront and Rainbow Six Siege
>>345420326
>Battlefront
Jesus fucking Christ no.
>Rainbow Six Siege
Haven't played it.
>>345417046
343 Industries
>>345420305
also add that the prometheans are the most unsatisfying enemies to fight. The battles with the covenant were 1000 times better than all of the fights between the prometheans combined.
>>345417046
>split screen removal
>Have to watch/read six EU material to get invested in the story
>Microtranslations
>Boring new characters
>The story we were advertised is not what we got
>Changes for the CoD crowd
Overall it's was shit. 343's Halo games seriously remind me of the Star War Prequels. Halo 5 was the last nail in the coffin.
>>345420305
some of these are complaints about 5 while some are about Reach and while some are valid alot of them don't even make sense or matter
>>345417046
They didn't let the series end with 3.
>>345417046
Reposting this my phone jacked itself up
>Osiris
>Three Blue Team missions
>9 Warden fights
>Ally AI as bad as Reach's
>Shitty first mission
>Mediocre final mission
>Prometheans are worse
>Storyline is crap
>Ads feel like a lie
>Shitty cliff hanger
>not enough UNSC weapons
>Levels run into the Halo 2 syndrome of feeling like it should be one mission
>Non combat missions
>Missions feel too short
>No split screen
>No campaign theater
>Disappointing Kraken fight
>Shitty way to kill off Jul Mdama
>Bringing back Cortana from the dead
>>345417046
Not much other than the meh campaign story
Multiplayer is great
>>345420725
>>345420519
Sorry about this here is my real post >>345420874, my phone didn't erase my old post. I need a laptop again.
The gameplay is absolutely not fun because of the fact that you spend the vast majority of it in campaign, warzone, and firefight playing against the GOD FUCKING AWFUL robots instead of the Covenant. I cannot stress enough how not fun or satisfying those garbage enemies are to fight. 343 is so assblasted about it that they refuse to get rid of them out of spite for true Halo fans that hate these terrible post Bungie games.
>>345420874
>not enough UNSC weapons
lol wut
>Ads feel like a lie
Not sure what you mean
Its funny, pretty much everything you said pertains to the story/campaign
>>345421045
The Flood wasn't fun to fight either, yet were never fixed
You act as if you never fight Covenant
>>345421118
In the campaign there seems to be a shortage of UNSC weapons on many levels, advertisements told a different better story.
>>345421267
>In the campaign there seems to be a shortage of UNSC weapons on many levels
oh ya, completely agree. Though I loved the Promethean weapons in this game compared to 4, they felt so tight
>advertisements told a different better story
oh, thought you meant ADS
But ya, it seems to me that Halo 5 wasn't always what we got, but more we got the scraps of what it would've been. Marketing was so good, they probably started early
>>345417046
343 are corporate drones who don't know how to put soul into their work
also esports
>>345421565
I would say its more of them not understanding Halo. Prometheans should have never been introduced, and really, they should have done away with Chief, his story was done and it ended amazingly. They shoulda just did more one-offs like Reach/ODST. Armor and level/character designs are also pretty mediocre.
The best thing they did that actually worked was the gameplay and MP
Microsoft stopped bribing the media is what went wrong.
>>345421949
They must have stopped bribing me too, because I liked the older games and I think Halo 4/5 are shit.
>>345417046
NO ONES
>>345417046
>>345419840
https://halo.bungie.net/images/games/halo/about/xbox_manual.pdf
Page 4&5
>>345421876
I was fine with Chief returning since I thought ODST and Reach were shit anyway, to me the main issue was that 343 went about it the wrong way. The Prometheans should have been a more advanced version of the sentinels. They would be like the Sentinels but with legs and could carry weapons. The weapons should have been unique and the main antagonist should have been an AI Offensive Bias. Cortana's rampancy should have took over and she would have then become the main antagonist using the Forerunners tech to conquer the universe until the Chief stopped her. I would have been fine with this direction for Halo.
>>345422723
That was so disappointing.
All they had to do was look at Dragonball Z
>no
>spilt
>screen
>>345422801
That sounds so shit, literally everything you said was just dumb. Hell, Cortana's motivation is fine as it is
If it doesn't have the Flood then it's not a Halo game
>>345417210
>best ever
>literally became cowadooty
getthefuckoutandneverreturn
>>345417046
The only thing really wrong with the game is that all the maps are too much like arenas. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them all and they all play really well, but someimes i'd like to play a Zanzibar, blood gulch type map
>>345417210
Pretty much this. Best mp since 2 or 3
>>345422737
>explaining things in the manual is the same as explaining them in the game
ok
>>345422984
This. Besides for BTB/Warzone, I don't remember anything outside. We don't need tech heavy maps 100% of the time
>>345417046
What went fucking right?? this anger i have toward this game, must be how the average /v/irgin feels on a daily basis.
If i were a reviewer i wouldn't even give this one star, it's just insulting
>>345422960
>>literally became cowadooty
how to spot someone who's never played 5
Worst campaign since superman 64
343 makes shitty games, this is the first that actually boots after you install it.
Halo died when Bungie left it.
>>345417046
>Microsoft makes their Siri clone named Cortana
>Cortana turns evil in Halo 5
Jesus, I can't believe that they did that.
>>345422924
Like your shit theory to continue with garbage spin offs were better, Bungie's been hinting at Cortana going evil since CE. IT was supposed to happen in either Halo 2 or 3 as well. I rather have evil Cortana wanting to destroy the Galaxy over I want Chief dick Cortana and policing the galaxy.
>>345423268
I had no theory you fucking mong
And Cortana wanting to destroy the Galaxy is so fucking out of character that it hurts someone thinks this is a good idea. Thats like saying Chief would WANT to help, it makes no sense.
>>345423124
I assure I've played it, and it has done everything it could have done to convince me that it's no longer a halo game.
Traded it in a few months ago, best 82gb ive ever saved
>>345419798
>you will never play ODST's firefight mode online
>>345423420
>and it has done everything it could have done to convince me that it's no longer a halo game.
Like having the best weapon sandbox, going back to static weapon spawns after years, removing shit like bloom, and putting everyone with the same weapons and abilities at the start of each match?
>>345423059
At least you do not need to buy and read shitty books.
Seriously, it was so hard to read two pages ?
If you wanted to know the story was enough to open the manual at the time.
>>345423420
>He thinks that Halo CE-3 gameplay would work nowadays
Its dated, and this makes you feel like an actual Spartan. The weight and feel is great, and weapons have never felt better.
>>345423404
It would have been an interesting plot twist. Cortana gets put in the system to take out Offensive Bias, she does but her rampancy takes over and now she wants to take all of the Forerunner weapons for her self to destroy all life.
>>345420385
>Implying he meant that EAbortion
>le hunt da troof
>le ebil mastur cheef
>le arbitor
>>345423546
Why wouldn't it work?
SP:
other than blue team getting the shaft in their Halo game debut, everything else was fine for me. can't wait to see where they go from here tbqh. I just hope Cortana's rebellion ties into what the gravemind said in the last Forerunner book (about the Flood's return)
MP:
the maps are mediocre as fuck. I mean, they're serviceable, but they aren't maps I'd like to see remade in Halo 9 or whatever.
I stopped playing competitive MP because I was sick of getting matched with retards (I have no friends) so I don't really care that much about the MP anymore. the same thing ruined Reach and 4 for me. we need a server browser in 6
wzff is fun, but it's hurt by shitty teammates who don't know how to play. there's only so much 2-4 people can do by themselves on boss rounds.
since I don' have any friends to play with, wzff and arcade ff are more fun to play than classic ff. the fact that I have everything unlocked and can buy a gold pack after every game helps, of course. I won't be running of things to use anytime soon. except wasps. those things are more rare than hannibal vehicles
>>345423687
fuck off right out
hunt the truth was the best piece of expanded universe by far
it just sucks the game has nothing to do with it
>>345423680
No, I absolutely did. Best multiplayer shooter out there right now, and definitely of last year. Siege is second best.
>>345423641
Thats more like a plot-twist for the sake of a plot-twist. not even a good one
>>345423723
Im cautiously optimistic about Halo 6. Despite Halo 5 being very pointless, if they fixed the story like they did with 5, it could be salvaged. The biggest problem was that a lot of what Halo 4 set up was done away with. Especially in humanizing chief, which was the best part of 4
>>345423698
Its slow. I love those games to death, but they are just really slow. Halo 5 is faster, while still keeping the Halo feel.
>>345423680
the first two weren't that great either, the fucktarded AI assured that
>>345423687
why did he burst into flames
>>345423926
>if they fixed the story like they did with 5
*like they did the gameplay of 5
>>345423926
So fucking what, do you know what the original plot twist for CE was or even a halo 3? It was the same fucking one I just suggested. Whether you like it or not Cortana going evil was an eventuality.
>>345423929
tripped on my mixtape!! :emoji: :emoji: :emoji:
>>345423926
>he doesn't realize that h:ce has the fastest paced gameplay of any halo game
>he doesn't realize that increase the time to kill in each battle by making weapons less powerful and giving players a ton of movement options slows the gameplay down
>he thinks being able to hit a button to run a tiny bit faster means the game is fast
>>345424101
And she is evil, but atleast its not fucking "I want to destroy the galaxy cause Im evil"
Shes interesting because she thinks she's doing the right thing
>So fucking what, do you know what the original plot twist for CE was or even a halo 3
What? About the Halo rings or Guilty Spark?
>>345423860
I admit it's a solid 7/10, but it's now ruined by literal pay-to-win characters and items.
>>345417046
No splitscreen
>covenant turned into space ISIS
>Cortana basically an interstellar communist
>>345424151
Halo CE is fast because of the small maps and the pistol
>he doesn't realize that increase the time to kill in each battle by making weapons less powerful and giving players a ton of movement options slows the gameplay down
Dying over and over doesn't make it fast
>>345424292
the sad thing is, you can pretty much guarantee that the requisition system will be back in 6, because its been so successful.
All the kiddies using their parents credit card to get fucking pizza colored Assault Rifles
>>345424243
She was supposed to become evil in CE because she got drunk with Forerunner power in Halo 3 it was because of the Gravemind's mind rape. Also the problem with Halo 5's Cortana is not that she is evil, it's the fact that 343 brought her back after they killed her and turned her evil. They should have left her alive in 4 and made her evil in that game. Seeing how she was in rampancy, it would have made sense.
>>345424493
I was talking about Battlefront
>>345424151
sorry dude but you're in the wrong
>>345424493
whats wrong with my pizza AR?
>>345424486
>The gameplay being faster doesn't make the game faster
I don't care what you say about any of the games, Halo 5 is the worst in the franchise because there's no LAN and multiplayer and coop are online only and will cease to exist when Xbone servers are gone.
>>345424493
I'd rather have the req system than the map pack DLCs
the only problem is that theirs a ton of repeat armors with simply different patterns, which fill up the majority of req packs
>>345424494
Just because it was supposed to happen, doesn't mean it would have been good. If they made her evil in Halo 3, and have it be "Im evil and want to kill everything". Hell they probably didn't do it because they didn't think it would work (also, give me source faggot, Have literally never hear of Bungie saying this)
343 did it right in that it makes sense and is more meaningful than decimation of the galaxy.
The arena maps in h5 are so over designed I can't fucking stand them. The game has 2 decent maps and for some reason I haven't played any forge maps except for btb
>>345424643
Split screen doesn't affect me too much since its for logical reasons. Its not about laziness
There was a halo 5?
>>345424956
Aesthetically most maps are shit minus a few beauty's like Regret, but design wise are perfect
>>345424151
>>he doesn't realize that increase the time to kill in each battle by making weapons less powerful and giving players a ton of movement options slows the gameplay down
What the fuck are you talking about
You people haven't even played 5 at all, or even watched gameplay of it.
Weapon kill time is between CE and 2
>>345425239
>Weapon kill time is between CE and 2
Doesn't mean shit if you have more movement options to offset weapon lethality. That's why top level play is still the same team shooting bullshit in order to get kills. Weapons still kill up to 2 times slower than in CE.
>>345424860
You should have did your damn homework on the subject. Since I don't feel like wasting anymore time with you I will leave you with Halo CE's documentary about the subject.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EwfnAM3dBrM
Here is Halo 3 where Bungie talks about the subject.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmjavtbc-GI
Now kindly fuck off.
>>345425430
Again, just because they wanted too, doesn't mean it would've been good. Especially if it was by the team that wrote Halo 3
>>345425403
>Weapons still kill up to 2 times slower than in CE.
that's the same for every Halo game, because the kill time in CE is literally less than a second
also its a team game
>>345425482
>I just got BTFO and no longer no what to say in my defense
I watched every one of Bungie's documentaries an commentaries for their Halo games in anticipation for their Halo Trilogy, if you are a real Halo fan you have absolutely no excuse to not no this shit. Teachers never taught your ass comprehension in English class. Say what you know and what you don't know, shut up.
>>345419095
>>345419798
Firefight was essentially made for you to burn through req cards. Probably part of the reason why 343 started giving out gold packs out the ass when it launched, players would burn through their entire collection otherwise.
ODST firefight was GOAT. Great balance of resource management between lives and ammo amount the group and action. Reach firefight was fun, but very much simplified, still better then Warzone """Firefight""".
>>345417862
Speaking of Bungie, I really want them to take some notes on how 343 did multiplayer. Destiny PvP gets stale after a few matches, with the promise of rewards being the main reason why people slog through it. H5 multiplayer is miles better cause it's not a blinking shotgun fest, variety of weapons to use and rewards are an extra, not the main motivator.
>>345422984
The only two maps I need are Blood Gulch and Hang Em Higb
>>345425497
Halo CE is a team game and is the fastest in the series
>>345424958
It was not cut for logical reasons, it was cut because MS wanted to sell more consoles and Live subscriptions.
Bungie had no problem getting splitscreen working on all the past Halo games, splitscreen in general was never a problem until very, very recently, conveniently along with the advent of DLC, microtransactions and online subscriptions. Gee, I wonder why that might be? These are the most powerful consoles ever, we have more connectivity and communication functionality, but we can't have the same features we had on consoles over two decades ago? Give me a fucking break.
"It doesn't affect me" is not an excuse, it's missing features for no reason other than to improve MS's bottom line. It will affect you when you want to play the game and the servers are gone. Sorry, I can't call it anything other than the worst game in the franchise when I can't even do what I'd be buying the game for in the first place.
>>345425971
Split screen was cut because 343 is dumb as fuck and has many game elements like physics tied to FPS. They wanted 60 FPS and 30 FPS would actually fuck the game so they cut splitscreen.
>>345425839
>Destiny
>Y2 moments of Triumph is out
>yay time to get all that content I've missed since finishish Oryx normal mode
>it's all just an endless grind
ay.....
I actually kinda liked it. 60 fps really makes a difference
>>345419798
I don't really even have issues with the way it was changedexcept that shitty respawn system. It's not firefight even though they used the name to build up hype.
My biggest gripe with it though is that it has done nothing but cement my opinion that the prometheans are the worst fucking enemies I've ever had to deal with in a shooter by a wide margin.
Every time I get a
>Kill boss surrounded by knights
or
>Kill X number of knights
round I just want to fucking kill myself.
There is massive gulf in difficulty between covenant and prometheans despite them being far less fun or satisfying to fight. Not to mention that they are difficult for the wrong reasons. Fighting massive bullet sponges that have homing rapid fire rocket launchers and infinite teleports isn't fun. I'd rather fight literally any makeup of covenant bosses on round 5 than fucking 3 warden eternals surrounded by the worst enemies in the franchise.
I'd rather fight the fucking flood than these pieces of shit.
>>345422723
>locke
>even hurting the chief
>>345426807
You didn't get the memo? Spartan IVs are the hottest shit in the galaxy.
IIs are old and busted.
>>345426914
Fuck that shit
Spartan VI's look like they're wearing wetsuits and the armor they wear sucks penis.
>>345427151
Yeah, but it sucks lifted forerunner penis. The whole theme of humans in Guardians is that they've gotten ahold of enough pristine forerunner tech that they're the strongest faction, and have no issues making supersoldiers.
Spartan IV's are mass-produced fags, sure, but the tech is just so good that they're equivalent to the II's, despite being some dick in a wetsuit instead of an ubermensch in a 10-billion dollaridoo mjolnir set.
>>345427756
>tfw it's the whole metal gear Rex vs ray fiasco
Original always comes out on top baby
>>345426221
Destiny has always been an enormous grind, why did you think otherwise?
