Every time I think about this I can't help but sigh. I honestly can't believe how normies defend this garbage, they literally just disregard your opinion.
>>345410714
>I honestly can't believe how normies defend this garbage
You're honestly surprised?
>>345410714
It's just a fucking videogame.
>>345410892
It's funny (and sad) because Bethesda's treatment of the Fallout franchise is similar to what Michael Bay did to Transformers.
>tfw this is how people in general think of both now
If it's so mediocre then why do people feel compelled to shitpost about it every fucking day a million times. Get the fuck over it.
>>345411417
>If it's so mediocre then why do people feel compelled to shitpost about it every fucking day a million times. Get the fuck over it.
Maybe because they like the franchise and hate what Bethesda did with it?
>>345410950
But its a terrible video game that took away the chance for the people who genuinely liked making them to continue making them. The original two Fallout games were excellent, and new vegas had quite a lot going for it too, Bethesda utterly raped everything black isle had laid before them, and the worst part was that it probably took more effort for them to ruin it than to just make a good Fallout game, the overly dramatic story and shitty protag voice over probably took up a big chunk of budget and effort, all they really needed was to make a well written satirical rpg, the original Fallout games were all style.
>>345411417
BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN! I waited 7 (SEVEN) years for a nonshitty Fallout game, and what do I get? Fucking RUST with a Fallout skin! Todd lied and lied and I don't think I will ever be able to trust video games the same way I used to
Ok, so FO4 is an awful role-playing game.
But are the shootan and character creation decent at least?
>>345410714
>they literally just disregard your opinion.
So they're like /v/
>>345410714
It was neat for a bit but 6 hours in it just becomes so fucking obvious that every single aspect of the game is half-assed.
Clearly the developers didn't really give a shit about it so how can I.
>>345412339
First Bethesda game that actually plays smoothly as a shooter. The combat AI is...better, but still basic. It doesn't really hold up to either action shooters or military simulation shooters.
Season Pass was fucking useless., glad I didn't buy it or this fucking terrible game.
>>345411417
Because it isn't just mediocre it's shit.
>>345412339
That's actually the worst part for me, It does plenty of things well, all the difficult things that have to do with coding and such are there, its a perfectly set up system, all they need is the tone and style of the originals. The shooting mechanics and sandbox elements are great for what they are, but they have nothing to do with what makes a fallout game great. To be honest, Id be alot less upset if it they just changed the title so it wasn't a mainline fallout game.
>>345412339
Why Bethesda hate the trait system so much? It is good at creating unique gameplay experience.
Also Nick Valentine is a good companion. Deacon has potential but he got no character quest. The rest can die in garbage heap.
It does too many pointless things good and too many important things poorly
>>345412854
>>345412893
Ok, how about character creation and dress up?
That aspect alone could make or break a game for me.
>>345412339
The actual "gameplay" mechanics (shooting and movement) feel far better than previous games, iterating on everything Skyrim did but character building is a fucking joke. Just like how Skyrim dropped character stats so you just leveled skills and picked perks along the way Fallout 4 dropped skills so you'd just level stats and pick perks along the way. Charisma is the only stat that matters for speech checks now, the days of being able to make use of your characters skillset in different situations (identifying that a guy is addicted to psycho because you have high medicine, telling a guy how he can finish his invention because you have high repair/science,haggling payment for a quest with barter..) are gone because now it's just a dice roll with it's chances of success determined by Charisma.
>>345411895
it doesn't need to be good, it just has to sell well
do you even business bro?
Bethesda didn't take on the franchise to make it bigger and better than ever.
They did it to make money.
>>345413131
>Ok, how about character creation and dress up?
It's a bethesda game so it's great if you mod it. It's kind of limited vanilla because the armor mod system is so restrictive without mods.
>>345413131
Dress up is actually pretty sweet, armor is now layered so you can have light to medium armor armor plating over the outfit you are wearing (within reason, not all outfits can have plating for obvious reasons), adding to that whole post apocalyptic warrior feel. I fucking love the idea of having stuff like bulletproof vests or scavenged police armor over your characters day to day clothes (it's why I rock Joshua Graham's outfit in NV) and that is one thing 4 did wonderfully
>>345413131
Character creation is non existent aside from appearance because there are next to no RPG elements.
Dress up is reliant on mods because there's literally nothing good in the base game bar shroud and the acceptable mid range combat armour. Theres practically no armour variety in the game because instead of lots of unique sets they just created like 4/5 groups of pieces, 75% of which look like shit.
>>345413131
Yes you can dress yourself up real nice doll ;-)
Fallout 4 is literally Fallout 3, but they looked at Nexus mods and saw what people wanted, so they added it to the game. You want to blame someone, blame all the people that endorsed shit like Better Casinos and Hideaway Bungalow 43.
>>345413308
You think I didn't know this?
>>345413738
I assume nothing
>>345412339
Shooting is okay, the guns are garbage though. Character creation is a fucking joke, your stats don't matter. You can just quicksave/load to blow through any speech check even with 1 charisma, and bunches of speech checks have no consequences for failing them.
>>345413168
By creation, I meant appearance and looks, not stats and perk options.
Sorry for not being clear.
>>345413521
>>345413439
If I ever do get it it'll be for console, so modding's out I guess.
How shitty does it look in vanilla? I'm more of a form over function kinda guy. Like, I'll generally choose something that looks nice to me over something that offers good protection.
>>345413610
cool
>>345414394
Christ if you're stuck on console just don't buy it.
It gets boring fast (you'll have few mods to pad it out with too) and it looks and runs even worse on consoles.
>>345413131
>make or break a game
Yeah, because what should be a 1000+ hour game can have all its shit redeemed if the first 10 minutes are decent
>>345410950
>>345411895
reminder that Todd Howard held a red carpet event for FO4 and invited a bunch of the real housewives and other d-List celebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9O6sApVH3o
True story. I was playing Far Harbour and the first main quest I did was the murder mystery one with the robot vault.
I was genuinely impressed. Actually interesting content! Maybe Bethesda have fucking learnt their lesson! This was kinda cool!
So imagine my surprise a few days later when this scandal gets revealed:
http://kotaku.com/why-some-people-have-accused-bethesda-of-ripping-off-a-1783735999
>tl:dr
>Actually like a quest in Far Harbour, take it as an omen that Beth might be improving
>Turns out Beth shamelessly stole the quest from a mod
>mfw
>>345410892
Honestly this is worse, its like if Fargo was remade as a shaky cam thriller.
>>345411854
>>345412893
It's a shame that they went with the more money-making option in numbering the games rather than the less marketable but more sensible solution in giving them spinoff subtitles. But I guess that's what going a decade without a sequel does to the corporate mindset.
At least Interplay had the sense to not call pic related "Fallout 3".
>Vastly better shooting mechanics in terms of animations of responsiveness
>Way better graphical detail and rendering
>Literally worse everything else, including art style and aesthetics
What a fucking blunder.
>>345414919
Is that why the picture of him and penin from big bazinga exists?
>>345414394
>playing an RPG or an FPS on console
>>345415250
Anyone got the picture where NV is fallout 3 , 3 is brotherhood of steel 2, and 4 is fallout shelter 2?
>>345415063
At least they've finally started coming to terms with the fact that their internals are lacking and are looking to outside assistance again.
If only they hadn't developed that hateboner with Obsidian years ago.
>>345415319
yea, and nobody knew sho he was. Penny told him to get out of the picture
>>345415525
>>345411895
>>345415980
It's pretty depressing though that the only good content in FO4 wasn't actually made by Betheda.
>Shooting feels better because they brought in id Software guys to unfuck it
>Only good quest is lifted from a mod
I genuinely think Beth has become creatively bankrupt. They don't seem to know what to do with their formula anymore. Just look at how many ideas for FO4 were lifted directly from mods (like the entire settlement schtick)
At least they admitted the voiced protagonist was a fucking awful idea - but then that was obvious from the start. I feel like a battered housewife just waiting for Morrowind era Beth to come back.
>>345416341
>mfw I just suddenly envisioned Fallout being owned by Gearbox
>>345416175
Thanks bb
>>345415990
Thats fucking hilarious
>>345410714
Whats going on in this thread?
Gonzalez is the best writer NV had, and Avellone is overrated.
Prove me wrong.
>>345410714
arnt you literally just disregarding their opinion?
is that the point? is this b8?
>>345419364
I have never actually heard them formulate an opinion, they never come up with a coherent argument, or even an incoherent one. They literally just turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>>345412339
Character creation is extremely shallow and doesn't compare favourably to Dragon's Dogma or Saints Row 2 for example but in terms of cosmetics it's the best in any Bethesda game.
The gunplay is mediocre at best which makes it a step up from the absolute travesty that was 3's gunplay but it's still worse than even CoD for example despite Bethesda having fucking id at their disposal.
>>345420409
A lot of the problems with the gunplay aren't mechanical (like animations or bad hitboxes) but stem from bad gameplay balance. Beth fucking LOVE bulletsponge enemies, and since the game is level scaled, you will always be seeing enemies at approximately the same threat level.
Pic very much related.
>>345413131
Most armours look like absolute shit and the ones that don't often aren't worth holding on to.
>>345420889
>Still no mod to port Fallout 4 PA meshes to New Vegas.
One day I hope...
I don't get the mindset of an Obsidrone. We already know Bethesda Fallouts are more focussed on exploration, random locations with interesting pre war stories, etc. It is not like Fallout 3 had any better story or writing than Fallout 4.
Why not just stick to your New Vegas if you like that game so much? Why you people get mad at those who are enjoying Fallout 4? I don't get it. Is it something in Fallout 4 that forces you to stop playing New Vegas and shitpost instead?
Lets say, if I don't like League of Legends, I would play stop playing it. I won't come on /v/ and make 100 threads about how League is inferior to Dota 2, etc. You just are wasting your time and others through shitposting.
>>345421140
It's more that Fallout 4 doesn't even compare well to other Beth games.
Morrowind was GOAT and Oblivion had some of the best quests ever made by Bethesda. The problem is Beth seems to have bled that talent somewhere.
I'm not asking for Beth to make New Vegas 2, I'm asking them to make Fallout: Actually As Good as Morrowind.
In fact, I'm gonna be controversial and say that Fallout 4 is actually weaker and less interesting than even Fallout 3.
>>345421140
It actively makes all other fallout games worse, and ruins the chances of another kino coming out.
>>345421290
>In fact, I'm gonna be controversial and say that Fallout 4 is actually weaker and less interesting than even Fallout 3.
That's not controversial or unheard of at all. It's a fact at this point.
>>345410714
>Implying Obsidrones are any different
>>345421963
Fair play. I actually think Fallout 3 was pretty impressive for 2008 despite some of the dumb stuff. and I'm gonna be a double nigger and say making Fallout a first person RPG was the right decision.
But even side by side today, not accounting for how it's aged, I still would rather play Fallout 3 blind than Fallout 4.
>>345421140
>when you critique 3 or 4 they always end up looking like shit
>when you compare and contrast 3 or 4 they end up looking like shit even more than they already did
>the only arguments bethdrones have is to put their fingers in their ears and ask that people stop talking about it
fuck off atmosphag.
>>345421140
>Why not just stick to your New Vegas if you like that game so much?
Because I want a new Fallout game that's not shit obviously. New Vegas was great but I've played it so many times already.
>>345410714
Not true. I have a true normie friend and he dropped this game after a few hours of gameplay. He had played three and said 4 was shit.
>>345422292
Had the same experience. Had a friend who only plays very casually hate the exact same things I did like the settlement crap and lack of interesting quests or locations.
>Oh fuck dude it was just like a million gay settlements to build. I wanted cool towns and shit.
>>345422195
Fallout 3 wasn't impressive even for its time though, it was an awkward attempt at mashing Deus Ex, S.T.A.L.K.E.R and TES together before tossing in some characters, enemies, factions and story beats from Fallout without regard to whether or not it made sense.
Fallout 3's only real value is as a perfect example of what not to do when rebooting a franchise.
>>345422517
>Fallout 3's only real value is as a perfect example of what not to do when rebooting a franchise.
>When Fallout 3 is easily the most successful Fallout game and no one would even know Fallout existed if it wasn't for 3
Lmaoing
>>345422517
>>345422754
That's bait. But I said that Fallout 3 was impressive for 2008 because in retrospect, when Obsidian stripped away the worst parts of Fallout 3 like the shitty Emil Pagliaro writing and incoherent world design, they made probably the best RPG in years after the Witcher 3.
There was a solid core of exploring/atmosphere and questing that worked well. All it needed was a better writing staff and New Vegas showed that fundamental formula can produce gold.
Bethesda's biggest problem is their shit writing. I love their basic formula of game design since Morrowind.
>>345410714
They've never played loot based games. At least normies are more likely to expand their tastes and give rise to the genres fallout 4 ripped off.
So what makes this game so bad, neo-/v/?
I thought it was pretty_fun_.
>>345422754
Obsidian curse of releasing a buggy product.
Plus reviewers not exploring the game thorough enough, only getting a single playthrough before writing their review.
>70 replies
>27 posters
>Thread full of Obsidian dick sucking replies
Kek. So this is the power of obsidrone samefag shitposter.
I torrented it around 2 weeks ago, all my friends were saying it was garbage. I didn't believe them and ended up deleting it. It was pure garbage
>>345423431
It's funny cause Bethesda did Quality Assurance for NV
>>345421030
I know its late but this is as close as you're gonna get atm
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/60645/?
>>345423450
Fuck off you meming cunt I bet you haven't even watched gurren lagann
>>345410714
It's the best fallout game by far though. Let me guess, you are either a delusional obsidicuck who thinks NV is the best game of all time or a cynical permavirgin neckbeard who thinks gaming has been declining since the golden year of 1998.
>>345424085
Bethdrones never actually explain why they think F3/4 are good they. I wonder why
>>345424196
Probably because they caught on and realized you're just a shit posting retard that doesn't care either way.
>>345416175
That's an amazing image.
>>345424196
Pretty nice graphics though.
Fallout 1 remake on the new engine never. Would be cool though.
>>345424196
>>345424298
I will focus on FO4 if you don't mind:
>best graphics
>best gunplay
>best companions
>best crafting
>best soundtrack
>best armor system
>best looting system
>best morally grey factions
>best level design
>best exploration
>best enemy AI
>best enemy variety
>best customization
>best DLC
>best voice acting
>best atmosphere
I could go on.
>b-but m-muh dialog choices!
>>345416175
Why does everyone fawn over NV as an RPG? It was practically like Mass Effect where even though there were a couple different paths through a quest no matter what you did you generally ended up with the same outcome that has the impact of a wet fart on the rest of the game. You can LITERALLY kill the leaders of certain factions and all that'll change is an extra line of dialogue from some other NPC somewhere and maybe a spot on the radio.
>>345424746
>best enemy AI
It may be true but its still dog shit and basic as hell.
>>345424746
best graphics
Duh
>best gunplay
Yep
>best companions
Fuck no
>best crafting
Thats all the game has to offer
>best soundtrack
Fuck no
>best armor system
Fuck no
>best looting system
Fuck no
>best morally grey factions
Shitty cuck factions
>best level design
Not even close
>best exploration
Nope
>best enemy AI
Duh
>best enemy variety
Same bs enemies but with a red glow to legendary
>best customization
The entire game is customization and crafting. Thats it
>best DLC
LMFAO Go fuck yourself
>best voice acting
Also go fuck yourself
>best atmosphere
Shitty atmosphere, like 2 actual cities and a legit wasteland.
>>345424935
Actually it's pretty good. Of course there are other shooters that do it even better, but it's an enormous step up from NV and Skyrim.
>>345425096
No arguments: The post. Dude, you are not even trying.
>>345422951
>Bethesda's biggest problem is their shit writing.
Good old missing family members.
>>345425352
>Good old missing family members.
Implying Witcher 3 isn't the exact same thing, kek.
>>345425624
False equivalence.
kys senpai.
Does mod organizer work with fallout4? Or is there even better mod manager for for it?
Im going to mod some tiddies in, perhaps that would make the game more tolerable.
>>345425748
How so? Would you like to elaborate?
>>345424746
>graphics
Eh, low bar, and unironically caring about graphics is fucking pleb-tier anyway.
>gunplay
Got that right.
>companions
Let's see, you've got: a black cardboard cutout, a dog, a robot, a handful of waifus and...oh the 'skinny guys are okay too' Macready. None of them were particularly interesting. Except the fedora-wearer, and he fucking wore fedoras.
>crafting
Which was invented in that game. Is this bait?
>soundtrack
meh
>armor
Yeah probably.
>looting
how do you mean?
>morally grey factions
everyone being a pants-on-head retard doesn't make bethesda good at storytelling.
>level design
how so? seems like standard shit- loop back around at the end of the dungeon kinda shit they've had since oblivion.
>exploration
There's nothing new about the exploration. Unless you mean the skillbooks?
>AI
they were pretty bog-standard, anon.
>enemy variety
this too was about the same.
>voice acting
This isn't a good thing.
>atmosphere
And what atmosphere is that? It's fucking boston.
>>345420889
jesus christ this isnt real is it? he looks like a literal toilet
>>345425214
But wasn't your post the same?
>>345426165
Not that anon but:
They didn't account for variances in the player model either.
>>345420889
Pro tip:Let Curie wear it and nothing else.
>>345426238
Shhhhh
>>345425967
You just said two games from two different genres with completely different time periods and lore are the same because of an extremely broad story subject like being focused on a missing person.
They're completely different.
>>345426538
No. I just found it funny that people like you argue the following:
FO3s and FO4s main quest is looking for your father and son, respectively.
>searching a sibling is the worst and most overdone plot device in the history of video games
>typical shit Bethesda writing
Witcher 3s main plot is to find your daughter.
>OMG best plot device and writing in any game ever!
>>345426803
You are actually retarded and incapable of understanding why you're wrong.
It honestly is the shittiest game i played, the companions are cool but they could be more fleshed out with more quests and more dialogue.
The character creation is OK, it is worse than Skyrim in my opnion but just because skyrim had a lot of races to use as presets so you had a lot of variety.
The gunplay is average, specially when there are so many AI fuck ups like they getting stuck in cover or rushing out in the open, obviously it is better than NV/3 but still.
Other than that everything else is horrible, all the guns are the same, they just use a random buff, just like dead island or something, for the first missions you will be running with repetable weapons made of scrap that are the same and deal almost the same damage over and over again, and the endgame weapons are just lucky to get a cool random buff.
The quests are horrible, worse than Dead Island/Borderlands
The main history is trashier than FO3, you don't care at all about anyone, you get 30 minutes of SHAWN over and over and after some time you just can go around banging hookers and doing stupid shit, it feels like GTA if GTA was not fun.
>>345426865
>Ad hominem
A winner is you.
>>345422754
Fallout 3 was successful in spite of itself, not because of itself.
It released at the perfect time when anti cod sentiment was on the rise and when "nerd culture" was just becoming cool, for many it was the first RPG they had ever played and so of course they were going to suck it off.
And if you honestly think games journalists are at all credible on anything they have ever said ever then that's just really embarrassing for you.
>>345420682
Something I noticed people seemed to've been upset about was the spread of your weapons. They expect the bullets to go where the reticule was. I mean, I understood that the spread went down based on chems, other stat-altering clothes and your associated skill, but nobody else seemed to catch that.
>>345427030
It's actually an insult. You didn't address what I said.
I wonder how far this retarded rabbit hole goes.
>>345423675
No, they were supposed to.
Apparently they backed out at the last second for some reason and left Obsidian to rush QA whilst still developing content for the game hence the clusterfuck it was at release and the mountain of cut content.
>>345427184
So far you have only tried to insult me and haven't formed a single coherent sentence which could be even remotely resemble an argument. I am still waiting.
>>345424746
>best graphics
pic related
>best gunplay
k
>best companions
no.
>best crafting
no.
>best soundtrack
no.
>best armor system
lol no
>best looting
fair enough
>best morally grey factions
HAHAHAHAHA
>best level design
HAHAHAHAHA
>best exploration
HAHAHAHAHA
>best enemy AI
fallout 1 and 2 have objectively better combat ai than 4
>best enemy variety
Fallout 2 blows it far out of the water
>best customization
define customization, in terms of aesthetics sure in terms of actual customization: HAHAHAHAHA
>best DLC
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OH FUCK MY SIDES HAHAHSHSHSGSHHSHHAHAHAHAHA OHHHHOHOHOYOOYHAHAHAHAHAHAHLMFAOHOLYSHITICANTFUCKINGBRRSTHHAHSHAH
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4s-nuka-world-dlc-is-the-last-one-bethesda/1100-6441516/
>best voice acting
Whilst this is hilarious I don't know that I could laugh any more after the last one
>best atmosphere
See above.
I fucking love you bethdrones so damn much, it's always nice to know that there's always someone worse off than you.
>>345427372
>You just said two games from two different genres with completely different time periods and lore are the same because of an extremely broad story subject like being focused on a missing person
You asked why I said you posted a false equivalency. This is why you are wrong.
>>345427702
Were coming closer! And WHY do you think it is a false equivalency?
>>345427693
What's really funny is that not a single obsididrone who replied to my post has any valid counter arguments to the points. Just posting no and sperging out is not a real response you know?
I mean, read your response again and tell me if there is some actual argument buried somewhere underneath this mess.
>>345427962
Why are you being willfully retarded?
Was today another lonely day?
>>345428319
>makes post full of non-arguments with no evidence or actual explanation
>expects people to actually care enough to refute literally nothing
are you underage or just autistic?
>>345428345
>STILL not answering my simple question
I'm done.
>>345428456
My argument is simple:
People complain about Beth Fallout stories, because you have to search for your father/son.
The same people have no problem whatsoever with searching for Ciri in Witcher 3 as a plot device and even praise it.
Therefore, people are hypocritical in critisizing this particular aspect of FO4.
>>345428654
>I'm done.
>>/tumblr.com/
Later, faggot.
>>345428654
Fucking what?
What the fuck are you sperging out about the witcher for when you never even brought it up in that "argument" of yours?
Are you actually fucking autistic?
>>345429028
It was my first fucking post and that other guy couldn't address this in about 7 replies. That is pathetic.
>>345428654
Is this you or not?
>>345424746
>>345429190
Nowhere do you make mention of the Witcher you fucking spastic
>>345428654
>because you have to search for your father/son.
Both games also include a DLC where you track down a missing daughter. After you travel by boat to a mysterious new piece of land. After a radio transmission. Which you receive after you've left the vault for the first time.
Kind of funny how Fallout 4 effectively has such a heavy emphasis on recycling that Bethesda themselves recycled the same shit they did in the last game.
>>345429405
>>345429667
No here was my first post >>345426803
>>345429190
Still talking shit? You are a moron, don't pretend like I didn't address your stupid ass comments. How about you actually play the games to find the differences in the motives and actions of the characters.
I don't say this often but you really should kill yourself.
I bet you wish you could just block me like on reddit, you fucking queer,
>>345424852
kill yourself my man
>>345430054
Then why the fuck respond to my post in the first place?
>>345410714
>normies defending Fallout 4
bullfucking shit. go to any gaming reddit, especially ones centered around PC gaming, and they shit all over it. So nice reddit opinion mate. Maybe you should go and stay there.
>>345430165
Okay I literally laughed out loud reading your post. How completely assblasted can you be just because someone on the internet has a different opinion than you. But thanks for the laugh nevertheless.
>>345430370
It's not a matter of opinion but being right and wrong, you are simply wrong. You posted a false equivalence, accept it, you lolipop licker.
>>345430536
Ah, right I forgot that opinions are facts now.
I would say the whole "discussion" was worth it for your last two salty responses alone. Now I can sleep in peace. Thank you and don't take it too personal, dude. It's just video games.
>>345430730
You really are a fucking moron.
>>345410714
Fallout 4 is a solid 8/10 and if you don't like it you can suck my dicc
>>345430054
>>345430251
The post he was referring to was >>345428456
>>345430943
And when I wrote that I quite blatantly wasn't speaking to him.
WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS
This thread is a train wreck
> inb4 fuck off CoD fag i bet you never played NV
>>345410714
What the fuck is the point of this game? You build a town and then what? Is that it?
Where's the fun part?
>>345431491
No fun until loverslab adds it in.
>>345431797
>he needs smut to make a game enjoyable
>>345431396
>trains
No, you didn't..
Disappointment in Bethesda thread?
Just deleted Skyrim because I got sick of making sure the piece of shit runs smoothly.
I managed to get everything running and then after a while of playing I discover save game bloating.
I tried everything from waiting 31 days to running a save cleaner and disabling script intense mods/fucking around with the load order and nothing helped.
I needed to delete it anyway because my install is relatively old and I discovered that uesp still churns out fixes for this piece of shit and I can't just simply copy them over, but I'm just too burnt out on this shit to bother anymore.
Back then when I installed I thought
>oh boy look at all these patches, it's been years and surely they must have fixed almost everything by now
Boy was I wrong.
>>345410714
Fallout 4 is one of the worst RPGs ever while being a pretty great game.
Ok, then what? Is someone stopping you from replaying F1/F2/NV?
>>345432390
Not a game, but Fallout 4.
>>345432847
Your retarded fag you just get that crash mod fix and that thingy that reduces amount of strings or w/e that causes the crashes
Dialogue system so bad I don't think I need to explain it
Bullet sponge enemies (Again. Bethesda, Bethesda never changes)
Abysmal distribution of loot that makes exploring pointless, you won't get anything good from that building, just a generic chest or safe with FUCKING PIPE PISTOL IN IT WHEN YOU'RE LVL 50. Then there's fucking molerats carrying legendary (read: magical) missile launchers.
Settlement building serves no purpose and is just shit, tacked on idea that feels like a mod that was dropped in the middle of developement
VATS is still an aftertought, again, a half-baked idea that should be completely dropped at this point or completely reworked and used as the only means of combat
SPECIAL killed, raped, dismembered, raped again and thrown into trash
Power armor that now runs on fucking D batteries. You get pretty much unlimited supply few hours in, why won't you wear it all the time? Of course, difficulty goes to shit when you do that no matter how high you crank it up.
Also the whole idea of it working like a vehicle is stupid as fuck gameplay wise in the first place. Let's say you're exploring without it and then at the end of the dungeon you get to a really tough fight where you could use that oomph. And so? Are you going to trek all the way back to your base to pick it up and then all the way back?. Of course that won't actually happen because you can just keep it on all the time because fusion core fuel mechanic is meaningless, but it makes you think how retarded they must be to think up a mechanic that goes this wrong with the gameplay. Also they were so proud of that part mix and match, but what is the fucking point?
All in all, most of the game is "Hey, maybe let's do this, it might be cool" ideas, which then were kept in even though they're fucking trash and don't work with gameplay at all.
>>345433670
Do you think I didn't check all that shit when I first installed a while back? I was thorough as fuck with this shit.
I didn't delete it because of crashes, I didn't even suffer from crashes, I deleted it because I was just tired of being a nanny to a shitty game that still gets bugfixes.
I appreciate that uesp got simpler to install compared to when I installed it and all the other fixes, but fuck Bethesda for releasing such a piece of shit that I need to go through a list every time I want to install.
>>345435685
Yes. It's literally a single fucking mod to fix save bloat. I don't even know what your meming about with still fixing it but itworks for me :^)
Also you wouldn't have to go through a fucking list every time if you were actually competent with modding and used mod organizer instead probably shitty nexus shit.
Guess I'm the only one here that likes the game.
>Doesn't help I'm a total Fallout fanboy
Todd i invoke you#
>No skills
>Majority of perks are % increases
>Worst quests and dungeons in video game history
>SHAAAWN
>Okay
>Quip
>Later
At least the shooting was fun.
