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why just tell me fucking why do people with NO SKILL WHATSOFUCKING
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why
just tell me fucking why
do people with NO SKILL WHATSOFUCKING EVER
always
instapicks these shits
why
why the fuck do you have to insist in playing something that doesnt work AND that you are fucking shit at
why
why cant goddamn self entitled kids realize something is beyond their skill level and just play something easier and/or more useful to the team
no
they HAVE to play those shits
its like
their subconscious
when they are put in front of the list of heroes
that immediately makes them go for those two goddamn cocksucking turd heroes
every single goddamn time

im so
so very
tired
of this
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They want to have fun playing video games.
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>>345316976
Have you ever though that in order to git gud with a character you need to play it?

Crazy I know.
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>>345317020
how can you have fucking fun playing something you are complete and utter shit at and getting you and the rest of your team curbstomped as a result

what the fuck kind of fun is that
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I main Torb so i'm fighitng the good fight, Anon.
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>>345316976
the only way to get good at anything is to lose a lot
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>>345316976
if it's not in competitive let them do what they want. funnily enough games are about having f u n
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>>345317148
Skill level has nothing to do with fun. Stop getting mad at casuals playing a casual game, child. You look retarded.
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>>345317398
It's not often I see a level-headed, rational, non-autistic person hanging around /v/.
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I don't play Overwatch, but doesn't it use a personal matchmaking system?

In other words, there is no problem at all with people picking 'bad' characters. If you're still playing with people that pick 'bad' characters then you're just a shitter.

>b-b-but it's a team game!
Enough matches and your personal skill will statistically put you where you belong. Looks like you belong in the trash.
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>>345316976
Because they are Naruto lovers
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>>345317326
Fucking people on ps4 so god damn aggressive that same shit happen to my friend when he switched to bastion when the payload was at the final stretch
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to see people stop doing that shit you need to be like rank 55+ even then people still pick retards heroes sometimes.

go to competitive for good matches, because quick play is people just practicing their cancer
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>>345317391
>fun
When the fuck did /v/ become casual? Was it after that online hate movement?
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People like OP are why i stay put of ranked matches
>huurr im not playing ranked

Then shut up and realize its just a game not the end all be all of the world
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>>345316976
Japanese sword mean I good you die because you noob. You fear the samurai.

Or something along those lines is what I like to imagine
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>The counter to a good flanker is a tank like Roadhog/Winston
>The counter to a good Torb/Bastion is an explosives Hero like Trashmouse or Pharah
>The counter to a good tank is high-damage spread weapons such as Reaper's or Roadhog's, or in rare cases flanking them with Tracer
>The counter to a good Widowmaker is __________
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>>345317828
>Enough matches and your personal skill will statistically put you where you belong

Not true whatsoever, the personal aspect of the matchmaking system boils down to "if you do very well and lose, you will only lose X-1 amounts of ranking points instead of X. Also it's impossible to carry 5 other people unless you're very good at the game in which case you won't be playing with lower skill people anyway.
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>>345318475
a good widowmaker
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>>345318475
Either having a Rein on your team and completely nullifying her or Winston.
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>>345318617
this is why the sniper class is a cancer
it is a parasitic mess that only serves to jerk itself off
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>>345317148
Maybe their life doesn't revolve around winning in a video game you fucking sperg.
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>>345318475
>The counter to a good Widowmaker is __________
A well aimed hook from Roadhog. So satisfying to watch
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>>345318764
Then go outside and enjoy your life you fucking normie, don't ruin everyone elses fun.
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>>345318876
>Good Widowmaker
>In range of an opposing team Roadhog hook
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>>345318493
That didn't refute anything I said. If anything, that new mechanic you mentioned just makes it even easier for your personal skill to shine than it normally would be.

Play enough matches and you still statistically be placed where you belong. If someone is playing a low-tier character, and that person is the same rank as you, that actually makes them a better player than you. And like you said, if you were good enough for it to matter you wouldn't even be running into these people.

Team games like this always have cancer that will still insist after ~1000 games played that they are rated lower than they belong because they 'can't carry a bunch of shitters alone'. No, after 1000 games you are statistically properly placed.
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>>345319118
>there are people today that think skill based matchmaking and ranking is accurate when it factors the performance of 4-5 other players and with games that allow people with teams to fight with those who don't.

If this type of evaluation was used in anything other than video games people would spaz out. The only rankings that mean anything is for solo 1v1 games like RTS and fighters.
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>>345318976
>Letting your personal fun rest in the hands of other people

Do you flip tables when you lose card games too, big baby?
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>>345319118
why talk about a game you dont play but pretend to know how it works?

>get to rank 60
>awesome
>play with people around my skill level
>get a losing streak
>suddenly rank 51 because the ranking system is shit and prefers losing ranks than gaining
>stuck with morons that are impossible to "carry" because that's just not possible solo in the TEAM BASED game

no fuck off and fuck you i don't deserve to be playing with rank 40's
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>choose your hero
>I got healer because no else will
>we need a tank but instead of picking tank two people on our team pick hanzo
>ask if one of them could please switch
>"why don't you be tank if we need to so bad"

The shitters this game attracts.
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>>345319000
Have you seen the level designs? In literally every Capture map, sniper's vantage points are on or next to the objectives. None of the maps are long or straight enough for actual sniping. Any Roadhog can easily get in close enough to pull in a Widow
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>>345319594
>there are people today who still don't understand basic statistics

Let's take a really, really good player. The best player in the world. Does he get 'stuck' at a bad rating because he 'can't carry 4-5 shitters'? No, he loses a lot of games due to bad teammates but eventually it averages out and he rises to his proper position. Are you disputing this?

>>345319651
>suddenly rank 51 because the ranking system is shit and prefers losing ranks than gaining
>the ranking system is shit and prefers losing ranks than gaining
the ranking system is shit and prefers losing ranks than gaining
the ranking system is shit and prefers losing ranks than gaining

That is literally not possible. Do you people know what math is? Maybe it looks like you're losing rank more because there are less spots at the numbers they decided to use to represent rank, but statistically this is not possible.
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>>345319651
Obviously you do if you're in that rank ya baddie.
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>>345319118
Is basically right

>>345319651
The shitters you're playing with are subject to the same system, don't pretend you're this great player who's only below 60 because you went on a brief lose streak and the system is biased against you. The longer you play the more accurately the system places you.
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>>345316976
There should be a skill or kill to death ratio requirement needed to use certain heroes. If you're someone who can't aim, you shouldn't be playing someone whose entire premise is aiming precisely. It's like hiring a quadruple amputee to teach a biking class.
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After 4000 hours in TF2, Overwatch is a nice change of pace but it didn't take any time at all for the shit that is terrible players to seep into it. Literally no better than TF2 now in terms of team work.

>TF2 fanbase is ponies and furries

If you don't think the same people are playing Overwatch, you're retarded. But we already knew that because some dumb faggots avatar upsets you.
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>One guy instalocks Hanzo and starts complaining about the other players before the match even starts

Sweet as wine.
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>>345319653
I do this just to piss off sad people like you.
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>>345316976
Pretty fucking top when the enemy picks Hanzo though. Just come from a comp match at Nepal, we literally ignored the Hanzo all game. Occasionally our Zarya would shoot a couple grenades up to him if she was passing by, but the poor little guy was so ineffective it wasn't worth any of us leaving the front line to climb up to him.
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>>345320740
I encounter a lot of bitchy Hanzos, I wonder if they're actually like that or just trying to perpetuate a stereotype of Hanzo users being bitches.

One time, I had a Hanzo complaining that nobody was playing a healer, on a weekly brawl that had no healer options.
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>>345319876
>basic statistics
>were ranking is not based solely on statistics and have a multitude of factors
>uses the "best player in the world" example

fuck off
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>I suck with a class so that means everyone sucks with a class.
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>>345316976
Maybe they have fun playing with them?
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>play on PTR
>want to play Ana
>everyone on team insta-picks Ana
>fuck it I'll do it do
>hold the enemy back surprisingly well
>still lose
Fuck Ana is fun, why isn't she live yet
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>>345316976
>getting upset about casual vidya
kek
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>>345318475
Winston slaps her with his monkey dick all day
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>>345318475

another widowmaker to draw his fire/outplay or just pick winston
>giving her the monkey dick
>watching the stubborn xx_prosnipzzz_xx faggot refuse to switch and continue to get counterplayed all game
>win
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>>345320740
>Defend
>Hanzo instapicker instapicks Hanzo
>complains constantly
>think nothing of it, Hanzo is Defense hero so picking him on Defend ain't that bad at least
>Attack round
>he picks Widowmaker
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>>345322332
Have you never played Overwatch? Genji and Hanzo players are cancer. Rarely are their roles ever actually required, and usually they're played by literal children who think ninjas are cool.

I have had to watch a Genji run up to a turret and try to take it out without using his reflect even once.
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>>345317398
How is it fun to go 0-20 though? Oh right it's not. Not even the casualest of normies think that is fun you fucking retard.
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>>345323082
>playing Bastion
>cheeky Genji player pops around a corner, runs directly at me and uses reflect
>wait two seconds and then tear him a new asshole
Every goddamn time, I love it.
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>>345316976
You're attitude is rather toxic broheem.
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>>345316976
Because they want to get better at them.
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>>345319653
>>we need a tank but instead of picking tank two people on our team pick hanzo
That's when I pick Hanzo and my friends do too, and we go 6 Hanzo's until someone changes or we lose or ironically win.
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>>345320234
>young lapy

what did he mean by this?
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Unless you're playing on ranked. Dont complain about whats happening; its bad form
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>playing a bot game
>three people insta lock in as hanzo, genji and genji
>both genjis just keep running headlong into the bots
>never use the deflect
>never appear to hit anything with their throwing weapons
>one quits
>gets put back in our server
>quits again
>other genji now quits after getting thrown off the map by a bot zarya
>re-instancing ...
>taken back to main menu
>Game Found!
>both genjis back again, both insta pick genji
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Is Genji objectively the most fun class?
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>>345319651
As someone who played rank 30 40 and 50 there is literally NO NONE NADA difference between those ranks. The matchmaking is fucked. I hear ya its really hard to climb in this.
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>>345325792
That would be Junkrat. The messing of arcs, the blowing up of concussive mines, the setting of traps, and watching someone die when you die is the most fun
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>>345325471
Reminds me of these 2 guys I keep seeing
>both similar names
>BLXV or something like that, with numbers after
>both exclusively play Reaper
>regardless of map
>regardless of attack/defence
>both rarely spend time on the objectives
>mostly try to harass the enemy between the spawn and the objective
>up against them in Lijiang Tower
>my team wins 2 rounds in a row
>both those Reapers quit
>see them in another game later on
>both still playing Reaper
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>Me + a 2-man party + a 3-man party
Finally, people who play together, there's no way they aren't trying to do goo---

>Hanzo instalocked anyway
FUCK
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>>345326250
Imagine your surprise when the 2 man party turns out to be two 12 year olds who want to be badass ninjas, one goes Genji, one goes Hanzo
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>>345317326
>5torb1bastion teams on defense even on pc
>playing as soldier and taking turrets out all day but they just keep fucking making more of the things
MAKE IT STOP
I'VE BLOWN UP THIRTY OF THE GODDAMN THINGS AND THEY JUST MAKE MORE INSTANTLY
THE PHARAH AND WIDOWMAKER ON MY TEAM CAN'T HIT THEM FOR SHIT
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>>345326093
>and watching someone die when you die is the most fun

>tfw Reaper deathblossoms right over your corpse
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>>345319647
agreeing with this guy. if you only have fun winning, maybe a casual game like OW isn't the game for you

Or if you're as serious about winning as you appear to be, get a team and do ranked.
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>>345316976
Switching to Hanzo is how I let the team know I am tired of their shit and won't be trying anymore. Hanzo = I give up on you, team.
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I'm THIS close to only playing Mei in ranked and messing up everyone's fun with walls.
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>>345327067
I do that with Genji, but I do play Genji when it isn't going to shit too.
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>>345326093
>die
>someone falls into your bear trap
>blow up your mine when you respawn
>XxXfaggotXxX killed
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>>345316976
And who made you king of the world?
I'll play the game that I bought for my hard earned cash any damn way I fucking please.
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>>345316976
The only way to get better is practicing on the diffucult to master heroes. Of course some people who play them will be shit, you have to start out as shit on those characters.
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>>345326093
>>345326749
Junkrat was made for suicide missions imo. If I know someone is going to kill me, I just charge them and die right on top of them. Anywhere between 60-300 extra damage from those 'nades
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>>345323768
This
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Hanzo is such a frustratingly poor design decision and completely ruins a lot of the enjoyment in overwatch

People just sit around insta locking him, often even 2 on one team in quick play, fire at least 30 or so arrows before hitting anything, and get bullshit one hit kills by simply aiming at the ground and using the scatter arrow. The normal one shot kills aren't much better as they are usually completely and utterly random rather than being aimed on a player, which makes the kill cam even more frustrating.

Then if you have a good Hanzo on the enemy team, they will probably just shoot endless arrows at the imbecilic roadhog or reinhardt on your team who will literally feed them ultimates and never even attempt to dodge the incredibly signalled dragons.

I usually play Lucio in quickplay as no one ever picks support, and there's no point picking mercy because of bad team mates, and I just run around Hanzo's punching them as they desperately try to shoot me.
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>>345323937
Don't complain ever, it just makes your team get mad and do worse. You can make suggestioms, but if people don't follow them stop fucking whining like youre better than everyone
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I ditched Genji even though I played him well. Now I play nice and get called a hacker. Sweet tears.
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>>345328213
And he's going to be even worse with the new patch because it fixes projectile hitboxes so they aren't gigantic spheres.
You have to actually have an arrow strike someone directly in the head for a one shot, and that is going to kill Hanzo stone dead outside of top-tier play where they already highly prefer Widowmaker anyway.
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>>345316976
Man I feel sorry for you low rank shitters, I really do.

I play at rank 68-70 average rating matches and even then I find shitters who can't play their hero every now and then, Ana is still not super good when someone mediocre picks her.

I honestly can not imagine how frustrating and horrible it has to be playing at low levels where everyone is Genji, Hanzo and Widow yet they can't do anything at all.
I really pity you guys.
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How do you expect them to get good unless they practice using those heroes? Do you just expect and demand that everyone immediately be amazing at the class they choose?
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>>345323768
>Join a game
>three people pick genji
>rest of the team also pickes genji
>I pick hanzo
>we still win
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>>345328825
Let's be reaslistic here, they'll never get good
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>>345328825
I guarantee you that 95% of Hanzos or Genjis that get instapicked aren't doing it for the first time for practice. How some of them can still be completely incompetent at a character after hours of play is just beyond me.
I can understand moments of badness or not being adept at more advanced play, but basic shit like positioning and fucking aim barely takes a few games to learn let alone a few hours.
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>>345316976
they got swords

swords r cool
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>>345316976
I know the feel OP, it sucks. The worst parte is that they don't change ever. They know nothing about counter picks.
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>>345316976
>Because muh seagul
>Because muh weeb shit
At least Hanzo got gutted on the PTR.

I have a friend who always spams hanzo every game, ranked or no. Boasts about high damage, yet never finishes anyone off and thinks hes doing something. Its infuriating.
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>>345328698
i lost my first placement match because two sub lvl 30 idiots instalocked hanzo on attack payload.
im never ever touching competitive ever again.
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>>345326636

Junkrat and go for the Torbs before their turrets. Bounce grenades off the walls into these nests.
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>>345318475
>The counter to a good Widowmaker is __________

Winston
D.Va
Genji
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>>345316976

have fun and practice to get those skills.

Easy.
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I have a strong feeling that if they removed Scatter arrow people wouldn't play Hanzo.

Scatter is the safety net for shitters that ensures a kill(and ult charge) every time its off cooldown. Who cares that you missed every shot for 10 seconds, you got a kill with the scatter right?

If you had to work to get kills with him even the worst of players would swap off him because they don't feel any reward.
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>>345329504
My best advice to people playing vs and with these shitters is to get good. The better you get (and higher rank you are) the better your team mates will be and the less retarded instalock hanzos you see.
In fact in my ranked matches I've NEVER seen an instalock Hanzo, and the people who first pick Genji have been competent for the most part and willing to switch when needed.

Only once did I have a retarded Hanzo instalocker that didn't switch all game, and it was when I queued with my rank 40 friend for some competitive. Needless to say I carried the everloving shit out of that match with Soldier 76 while shit talking the Hanzo for being useless, even the enemy team agreed with me and called him shit.

In due time these players will reach their real placement, which I assume is around the 30s low 40s. If you're good and continue playing you'll reach a better level where you see these players less and less.
Don't despair anon!
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>Pick Mei
>Team bitches at me for picking her and say I am going to fuck them up
>50 Eliminations
>45 freezes
>Shit ton of damage block
>"Good job at not being completely useless"

Why do people bully Mei players even if you are good with her?
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>>345329905
Because Mei players are sadistic cunts who deserve no quarter.
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>>345329905
Mei is great for certain maps. Genji and Hanzo are only good in the hands of autists like Seagull, which are very rare.
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>>345326749
>>345326093
I just won our team the game by rushing onto bastion/rein combo standing on the payload. Killed both and pushed 2 others away from payload which gave us enough time t hold.
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>>345329905
Because Mei is McCree on training wheels.
If you can aim well on Mei there's no reason to not just go McCree and fuck shit up, except for maybe ice wall play.
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>>345329835
i did 40% of team damage as a lone soldier never ever buffed nor healed by my support or helped by my team whatsoever
i had to do everything on my own
i cant get good anymore than that
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>>345329905
Eliminations is never anything to brag about, its just kill participation. Congrats you put damage on someone that died. You can talk big when they line up with everything else like you said.

I'm sick of faggots going BUH MUH GOLD ELIMINATIONS! When in reality anyone can get that shit if you can hit even one bullet on something.
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>>345330146
>tfw I already wreck shit as Mcree with his left-click
>The idiots at blizzard are buffing his left-click
The tears are going to be astronomical. He above all shitter-shatters all.
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>>345330153
Trust me, you can.
Your problem is not being bad, it's not being good enough to carry and get out of the ELO hell.

You first must accept that you're not perfect and that you can do better, some games you will lose but eventually if you consistently are the better player, will win.

Keep trying anon, I believe in you.
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I played hanzo whenever possible when the game first came out. I had about 20 hours with him and 5 on other guys combined total when I decided to branch out. Now I would never play hanzo and am a junkrat god
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How low does the ranking go? is there a rank 1?

I feel like elo hell starts at 45, but I float around 50.
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>>345330314
McCree is still a very good hero in the hands of a good player. Very hard to kill.
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>>345330571
What if I'm in a weird middle ground where if I lose, I get gold medals in 3-4 categories, but when I win, I'm lucky to have more than two silvers?
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>mfw I have noskill and i lock mccree in comp
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>>345330571
will you play with me?
im a good mercy..i promise
;_;
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>>345330742
Then maybe you're at the rank you belong to.
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>>345316976
they're practicing
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>>345316976
I check the winrates / time played ratio on the noob picks for laughs.

So often you see someone with like 20-40 hours played on a character (usually Hanzo / Widow / Genji) and they have like ~30% win ratio.

I mean, how long does it take to realize that they just can not play a hero for shit, and when they win they are obviously carried to victory.

It's always the insta-pickers too. And even if they are countered by the entire team it does not occur to them to swap. Thankfully there is so many of these retards that there is usually one in each team to balance things out.
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>>345330680
Believe me I am aware, I eagerly await the falloff buff, and then fully expect a nerf. People who say Mcree is shit right now are fucking idiots.
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>>345319118
Here's a big thing: Statistically most players are in the 45-53 range. This means that in this range, you will constantly be paired amongst the "average" players, and in general will be constantly placed with players who actually have HUGE gaps in skill but the system deems don't because it doesn't take into account the large numbers of players in these ranks. The only way to escape is to get amazing placements, be insanely better than the average, or get more good players than shitters. But the game will keep on dragging you into matches with shitters anyway.

The game needs you to not only be good solo, but be good enough to make up for weaker players as well to get out of those average ranks.
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Is anyone else just feel like they're permanently stuck in the shitter tier. Like no matter how hard I try I can't get past rank 39. Like I'll lose a couple, drop down to 34 and get a good couple games and be back at 39. then I'll get the retarded team from hell who leave at the drop of a hat and the end of the match is Me alone vs. there entire team. Thus my downward fall back to 30s happens.
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>>345316976
I dont really have a problem with these characters.

I do have a problem when its the last person picking and we need support and then they pick hanzo
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>>345330886
I don't wanna hear that. I'm rank 42.
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>>345331371
>Blaming the last guy picking for not picking support
>4 shitters not picking support knowing someone have to, thus leaving the job for the last guy
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>>345330874
>Good as Mercy
Yeah hitting Q every 45 seconds is really hard.
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>>345330874
How good are we talking?

>>345331372
Nobody does, but if you're really not that good the best thing you can do is accept that and then start working to improve.

You will never improve with a negative attitude, or if you think you're better than you really are. You must get rid of your hubris, be humble and accept that you're bad, when you do, you will start to improve.

At least that's how it worked for me. I went from being a shitter that couldn't break 2k/d to being semi-pro in some other shooter and now am really good at Overwatch. I could do it, you can do it.
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>>345317148
Because the character is fun.
Is there anything else you're not getting?
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Really can't wait for the new patch to go live. Ana is fun, but hot damn new tank D.va is fucking dope as shit. Reinhardt was getting old and I really haven't bothered to get good with any of the other tanks, but toggle defence matrix is fantastic.
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>>345331729
im super good
always get potg with revives and highlights
:3
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>>345331925
Hm, alright then.
Post your bnet and I'll add you, I'm playing on EU with a friend atm but we can play later, I can play on NA just fine too cause I got good internet.

Most of the time I'm playing with a rank 70 friend on US and we're looking for a support main to play with us. If you're good you can join us.
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>>345331925
who fucking eats icecream like that
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>>345332161
I think it might be a toothbrush.
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>>345332019
im shy..
post yours and i'll add you :3
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>>345332526
clears that up then, i too cry when i clean my tongue
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>>345316976
Bows in FPS's naturally attract shitters
Ninjas naturally attract shitters
also Genji is objectively the most fun character in the game
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My recent experience

>Player on my team is level 300 or level 400
>They instant lock Hanzo and do terribly
>Check their profile
>They have next to no time on Hanzo and main Mercy or Pharah

It's happened multiple times now. What is it about me that makes everyone on my team want to play Hanzo? Why do they say "today is the day that I'm going to try out Hanzo, after 300 hours of not wanting to play him!"
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>>345316976
Stay mad faggot
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>>345332651
No. You post yours.
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>>345332651
Post dick
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>>345332884
nope
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>>345329905

>Mei shoots her shooty cold gun in that one hollywood room on the first objective with the tv cameras with no one there
>next to doorway of said room for a millisecond
>enemy junkrat sees the jet of cold air
>I end up dying to concussion mine he laid down in the room

>I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
>Ice wall coming right up~!

she should've died in Tienanmen Square.
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>>345330941
>I mean, how long does it take to realize that they just can not play a hero for shit,
Character can be fun to play even if you suck with it.

Pick related, I have no idea how to play her efficiently and I know I'm not using all the tools she has. But the stuff that I know with her is fun and that's all that matters.
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>>345333669

>Meis that throw up an ice wall during a friendly ultimate
>Meis that don't realize you can break your wall by pressing E again
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>>345333495
Then you're not going to play with me.
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>>345331352
>not playing team based game with your own team
I mean, get friends and make a team.
>b-b-but my friends don't want to play/don't play at all hours
Then get more friends, friends who also want to play the game.
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>>345333814
thing is, Blazblue is a one on one game, where the only person who loses is you.
In a team based game, someone not pulling their weight affects everyone else on their team.
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>>345333495
Ok you know what I'll post my bnet, add me.

Courier#11210
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>>345334041
And every single team based game has the option to make your on team. Playing with randoms and expecting them to play the way YOU want is ridiculous and it will never happen.
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>>345334253
Expecting people to play the game as intended is not that much to ask, is it?
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>>345334371
>as intended
That is so vague. What IS the intended way? If the game lets' you choose any hero to play, is not choosing a hero NOT intended? And if it's not, then why does the game let you do that?

As long as the game allows it, it is intended way to play the game. But with any game, there is also the most optimal way to play a game. But that's a whole different subject.
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>>345318475
>good torb/bastion
these don't exist
and they don't just get countered by phara/junkrat, they get countered by fucking everything
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>>345318308
These are the same people who would complain much like op is when a bunch of faggot niggers ruin their game in the same way op gets his ruined, but it's cool to hate on op so that's what they're doing
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I have to wonder what ranks you guys are at to keep getting shit like this. I play at rank 70 and when a Hanzo does get picked there's a decent chance he's really good at the character. I see all these comparisons to Widow with him as well, but that's completely the wrong way of looking at it, Hanzo is a short-to-mid range, high damage skirmisher, not a long range sniper like Widow.

The same thing with Genji, rarely do I see him picked, but when I do, he often works out pretty well.
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>>345332786
>player is level 200+
>they do terribly
HOW? WHY?
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>that friend that always picks these two faggots
>never picks tabks or healers
>when he does support, it's with fucking Zenyatta so he can try and snipe people
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>>345317148
Because winning is not the deciding factor in fun, retard
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>>345316976
>pay 40 bucks for game
>faggot thinks he can tell me how to play
They have competitive for you try hards, I'll pick whatever the fuck I want.
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>>345334824
>good Torbs don't exist
Torb gets more POTGs, medals, etc than pre-nerf Mccree or widow
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>>345333495
Hey? Are you here? Wanna play or not?
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>>345336872
And it's either him hammering his turret, or him hammering his turret while screaming RACE WAR
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>>345337228
Nah, torb has a fantastic m1 and m2
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>>345336872
Against a team who aren't retards who charge in, Torb is essentially a waste of a slot.
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>>345337228
When are we getting a "IT'S ME! WHITE POWER TORBJORN!" voice line?
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>leave off playing Reaper because I think he's a dumb character
>pick him once on a whim
>the fucking devastation
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>>345316976
>implying anyone who plays overwatch has a modicum of skill
wew lad
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>>345316976
Are you on ps4? If so I'm feeling you senpai. Literally defense teams with 2 Genjis and 1 hanzo all the fuckin time. And they literally suck shit as well.

I'm thinking about scouting for some
decent players to build out a proper network of non-kiddos.
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most players i've come across playing hanzo suck ass and we end up losing. genji though, nah. I mostly tank or support, but if my team just plain sucks then i switch to genji and start flanking and getting dubs and trips.
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>>345316976
I HOPE MY BODY CAN TAKE IT.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jn14Jzwo4Mw
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>>345317148
How do you expect to get at something if you don't practice?

If they're picking characters they're shit at in comp I can understand your frustration, but quickplay is the place you should be for practicing characters you're unfamiliar with
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>>345331149
Any McCree tips, anon? I have trouble staying alive.
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>>345338241
Every single Genji I've played with or against has either been completely suck ass useless, or holy god of ninja destruction. no middle ground.
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>>345316976
>having the shittiest time trying to defend the final point of Anubis since our team comp is complete garbage and the enemy team's assault is relentless
>somehow hold out for 6 minutes of this, the final seconds are ticking down
>get earthshatter right as I die, if they can just hold the point I can clean up
>everyone else on the team is dead too though
>except Hanzo
>who is standing ontop of the ENEMY SPAWN
>WHILE ALL SIX OF THEM ARE CAPPING OUR POINT
>I spawn a second too late and we lose
>even the enemy team mocks Hanzo for being useless

If you regularly play Hanzo or Genji do the world a favor and fucking kill yourself
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