How did we go from this...
>>345276772
To this!?
Enjoy your inferior version EOPs :^)
the translation in modern monster hunter games is pretty awful. The translator inserts loads of his own personality into the game, making it full of memes and american pop culture
I preferred the early translations even if they're a bit rough. Much better atmosphere and tone.
A lot of Modern translators are all normie weeaboo's meaning a healthy dose autism injected straight into the whatever japanese game you're playing.
>>345277489
will you faggots ever stop crying about people putting their own spin on translations? they only do it because it sells. Literal translations dont sell at all.
>>345281530
it would be ok if the spin was good, instead it just breaks my immersion
>>345281530
>I'LL BUY IT ANYWAY
>>345281530
localizer detected
Keep crying about translations, faggots
You're literally never going to change a thing
>>345276886
Who translated this shit?
This is some neptunia translation level
what platform is this going to be on
>>345281530
It's almost as if localizations can vary in quality
whoa
We pioneered these memes.
>>345282941
obviously not going to change anything with monster hunter
the MH translator's always doing interviews and presentations about how great his meme translation is, patting himself on the back for ruining the original text to make casual players lol a bit
>>345276886
Right one is better.
>>345281530
This.
t.translator
Not like it? Well too bad, my boss like it. How bout you set up a localization company?
>>345283428
>useful information "translated" into something completely different, while barely and indirectly covering the original intent
>good
i'm sure they saw some difficult kanji and just made shit up.
4U is just as memey, but no one cares about the dialogue so making shit more "funny" instead of accurate isn't that big of a deal
>>345283386
Too bad.
>>345276886
Reminds me of gearbox writing, atrocious
>this fanny flustered Capcom makes fun of "git gud" niggers
Lmao grow up shitheads
>>345276886
How is this professional? That person needs to be outed and kept from working at localization. Complain to the Japanese
>>345283428
More like Fagslator
>>345283591
>>useful information
have you actually looked at the monster list? it's useless. It was only cool in Tri because you had to fill it in yourself
now it's just stuff that you unlock as you unlock the monster itself with no interesting trivia and descriptions that tell you stuff you already know
>>345283428
>>345281530
No fuck you. Monster Hunter is filled with so much bloat, I literally jam B to get through the shit and fucking flail around until I learn all the new mechanics.
I honestly have no idea what any of the places are or how they function (farms, cats, etc) because I don't feel like reading your shitty "prefered" translations bloated with jokes and random nonsense.
Get to the fucking point Jesus Christ.
>>345284085
Perhaps it's actually for the better then, if the list is useless like you say.
>>345284151
>don't read anything
>have no idea what anything is
Fucking retard
>>345283591
The jap version directs you to a useless description and refers you to an NPC to get more useless descriptions.
The English one throws in a few jokes, some spaghetti from the Gal, and actually useful advice of learn monster attacks and patterns.
>>345276886
So it effectively goes from straight to the point with no fun, to extremely wordy with fun.
I prefer the right, honestly.
>>345281530
>"""""creative writer""""" justifying his job in a company where the japs do everything and the gaijins are just glorified translators
Well at the end of the day it was Capcom's decision. We all love Capcom.
>>345284151
>>345281958
>instead it just breaks my immersion
>in monster hunter
>immersion
>monster hunter
what
>>345276886
I prefer the right one. I play monster hunter for a long time, and being forced to read instructions all over again is shit.
The right one has some flavor. Arguably won't be funny anymore in some years, but still...
Please stop trying to make MUH TRANSLATIONS into a movement you gamergater reject faggots. Not everything in video games is a huge issue, especially not this.
>>345284257
Read what I said. This is my 5th Monster Hunter game, and I want to get back into the "real" game. The game is already tedious enough making you collect mushrooms and grind materials to make your weapon not bounce off the shittiest monsters, I don't want to read a page of USELESS dialogue before doing all that shit again.
I wasn't complaining that I don't know any features retard, I was complaining that all the useless text discourages learning them. Fuck off.
>>345284548
I thought the extra dialogue are supposed to give immersion?
>>345276886
There are literal and liberal translations, but what the fuck could this even be called?
The localizer is attempting to write in humor where none exists, and they've turned a quick tutorial into a attempted humorous anecdote that replaces the practical game information with an opinion about an internet meme they dislike
>>345284207
it really is, it would be cool if it had stuff like weak points but it's shit you'd already know after fighting it once
>>345281958
"open the start menu" doesn't break your immersion?
If the jap version has memes and the localized version is very straightforward people would still defend it because drones.
/thread
>>345284621
It's a good thing Monster Hunter is a yearly series.
>>345284684
Why should they have to explain how to use a menu?
>>345284863
If the jap version has memes and the localized version is very straightforward people would still attack it because drones.
/thread
>>345276886
>people believe the left is better than the right
I'd take the right side. She has a fun personality and what she's saying to you makes sense for people just getting into the series despite the "git gud" jab she made.
>>345285110
I agree, though I feel that the "git gud" kind of ruins it entirely.
>>345285110
>she
all the text in modern monster hunter sounds like it was written by a man
>>345285253
he was talking about the npc retard
>>345285329
I know. all the NPCs sounds like a guy talking. pretty disturbing when the cute looking quest lady speaks like a man
>>345276886
But this is pretty good though. The Japanese version is too formal, they need to cut loose
>>345285405
imagine that masculine voice in your head as a more feminine voice.
>>345285405
how do you speak like a man?
>storyfags bummed they'll got their stories butchered
well, boo-hoo, can't wait this fucks ruin taro's new game
>>345285585
>MHG
>story
>>345285585
>story
>in MonHun
this bitching is more like "why did this even get translated"
>>345285110
There's being "fun" and then there's fucking quoting Internet memes verbatim where there was absolutely no reason to. Hell, if they had half a fucking brain they'd at least try to change it to "acquire skill" or "attain proficiency".
>>345284952
>Why should they have to explain how to use a menu?
A quick tutorial going over basics like menu navigation is always nice for newer players, and tutorials feel more important these days since game manuals are now often barebones pamphlets with a single page on controls.
>>345284640
>discourages learning them
How do you know this, you assumptive faggot
So if y ou just skip through the dialogue and you know everything already then what's the fucking problem you virgin baby?
>>345285790
Fortunately it's a monster hunter game, those are more crass than most when it comes to "whelp new game came out, time to throw the old one away forever"
>>345285884
3DS games all have digital manuals.
>>345276886
>>345276772
>he actually reads MH dialogues
for what literal purpose
>>345276886
looks fine. They're just trying to encourage newer players
>>345276886
Monster Hunter English Translations have been like that as long as I can remember.
>>345276886
This is what happens when a country is raised on comic book movies. Fucking Hell.
>>345285884
the advice on the right is 10 times more useful than the one on the left
>>345286207
This.
This is just one dumb niggerfaggot trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill because he's never been laid.
>>345276886
>he doesn't like the localization
Literally git gud, sorry you're offended baddie.
>>345276886
>>345276772
what? you expected translation teams to do the job they were paid to do? ha ha! you are such entitled man children! how dare you! you arent our audience! go away! we don't want you anymore! you aren't gamers anymore!
>>345285405
>speaking like a man
Is this a thing in the english language? In french and spanish there is no masculine nor feminine way to talk
I don't see why people are complaining considering this is how most people post on this board
>>345286347
He's right though. While it's silly to do this all for one game, if a person is a serial complainer about fucking localization, they should just learn Japanese so they never have to worry about shit like that again.
If they know Japanese, what would stop them for starting up their own localization company to translate shit?
>>345286394
it can be a thing. surely you've heard of valley girl talking for example
>>345286395
Tryhard faggots need something to do instead of playing video games.
>>345286548
>eceleb worshiper who thinks hes right
>literally cancer with 1 job
>failing to do even that
>obviously fans not satisfied
>68 posts by 36 posters
>entire thread is muh flavor
It's sad that localizers have to work the dual job of writing bullshit all day, and then they return home to defend all of their zany humor and sick memes online
>>345286659
If you're a fan of Monster Hunter, I'm almost fucking certain it isn't because of the dialog, or else you'd be fucking playing something else. So why does it matter?
>>345286659
>I regularly decide I don't like the translation
>instead of remaining a monolingual shit I could learn Japanese
>nah that's work
>>345284621
It's arguably not funny now since it relies on referencing meme catchphrases instead of anything remotely clever.
>>345284424
No, it goes from informational to memes.
Honestly Japan has a horrible, horrible sense of comedy and can't write jokes for shit.
Have you guys ever taken the time to compare the Kid Icarus Uprising JP script to the English one? The translators did that game a fucking favor.
>>345281530
How come every translation with a spin on it has to sound like some whacky LOLSORANDUMB teenage girl wrote it? If you're going to spice up a translation, why does it always sound the exact same?
>>345286750
Get a job, loser
>>345287397
>games are aimed at kids
>why do these games always write like they're aimed at kids?!?!
>>345287481
Star Wars is aimed at kids and all the characters don't talk like teenage girls.
>>345276772
>>345276886
is no game safe from angry nerds complaining about localization
>>345286548
>He's right though. While it's silly to do this all for one game, if a person is a serial complainer about fucking localization, they should just learn
Japanese so they never have to worry about shit like that again.
I know Japanese, I translate for a living, and I will always complain about shit like this.
>If they know Japanese, what would stop them for starting up their own localization company to translate shit?
Do you even know how this works? You can't just go and decide to translate a game for somebody.
>>345276886
>Implying anyone reads these
You faggots just mash right through just to get to the next one, don't even pretend you sit down and read each and every line.
>>345287583
why would it
>>345287583
Did you watch episode 7?
>>345287617
>I know Japanese, I translate for a living, and I will always complain about shit like this.
So what you're doing is complaining that some translators have a different opinion than you do. "muh formal equivalence."
>>345287617
Of course not. You need to have money, connections, and all of that junk. You'll never translate anything unless you purchase a license from the company in Japan to do so.
But more often than not, they're just not interested, so no translation. And even at that, you'd need a publisher in the west unless all you do is doujin titles.
ITT: weeaboos don't know the first thing about translation and bitch because everything isn't exactly 1:1
Typical children with no knowledge of Japanese.
>>345287617
>"Do you even know how this works? You can't just go and decide to translate a game for somebody."
Meaning it is the client decision that you got maymays in the game.
Go complain to Capcom HQ as they decide. The japs think you guys like meme.
I personally prefer right tho.
>>345276886
You might have had people listen to you if you were talking about some MH clone instead of an actual MH game, because god knows why they play any inferior clone when it's obviously not for the gameplay.
>>345276886
>translation leaves out the most important information
>literally removes the ONLY reason for having the dialogue in the first place
great job
>>345287859
>JUST AN OPINION BRO
Translation is probably the only actual profession where every Timmy thinks he's entitled to an opinion.
>>345288208
There's literally a thousand years of debate about formal vs dynamic equivalence.
But keep on talking as if you actually know your translation theory.
>>345286963
>translation team fails to do their job properly
>fans repeatedly show they are unsatisfied with the translations, cut content, and censored parts and retartded fucking memes and stupid shit
>no, its YOUR FAULT ITS BAD!
no, nigger, its the dumb employee who was paid to translate it's fault. fire the fucking retard, and replace them. the feedback is evident. its apparent, and whoever keeps hiring these retards needs to get a fucking clue, fans are not satisfied.
>>345286963
why should you have to work to play a videogame, instead of the man who's paid to translate it for you?
>>345287019
It says "git gud" once and suddenly everything she was saying is a meme.
Who even gives a shit about dialogue in Monster Hunter? 98% of learning the game is by going on hunts to do shit yourself, not from information from NPCs.
>>345288335
Because the person who is paid to translate is doing it for a client and that client is more interested in people who are into the translation they put out than you.
why don't you guys just learn Japanese instead of bitching
>>345285938
>digging through trash to find treasure
>the purpose of digging is solely to get to the treasure
>the treasure was there before, but a dumptruck poured its entire neighborhood load on it
>some piles of garbage don't even have treasure in them
>"why would anyone hate digging through garbage?? how does this discourage them from getting the treasure???? why can't they just accept the trash for being trash?"
please don't defend useless padding that negates the point of the padding in the first place
>>345288472
You mean people are actually interested in the memerific crap?
>>345288569
>why should I have to learn Japanese, the for-profit focused translation should stop focusing on the mass market and their target audience and target me, the culturally irrelevant cynical consumer!
>>345288272
The screenshots you're discussing fall out of either. Don't use theory as an excuse to literally write whatever and pass it as a translation.
>>345288373
>4 villages full of npcs
>easy to miss charm melder if you haven't played before and are skipping the blabber
Try learning that from a hunt
>>345276886
Chuckled at right, left was bland as fuck. If you are going to break the 4th wall and have in-game characters talk about the Start Menu at least go all out.
>>345288625
Yeah, pretty much. Sorry to burst your bubble.
There is a reason /v/ hate meme now. It is mainstream stuff.
>>345288625
Yes, monhun games especially are limited life products so relevant jokes and shit being put in them is a none issue.
I personally have heard no less than 3 people chuckle at the git gud bit. And that's from outside the core audience of 13-18 year old boys.
>>345288803
>/v/ hate meme
This thread tells me otherwise.
>>345288587
tl;dr, faggot
Don't waste my time like the Monhun translation you're bitching about.
>>345287737
Because that's how localizers think everyone talks.
This is how a localizer would write Star Wars
>Obi-wan never gave you the 411 on your old man did he?
>He told me you made him go splatooey
>Sorry famalam, I'm your daddy
>>345288861
Jokes on you. I am not /v/. I am just passer by, browsing this just for PokemonGO threads.
>don't waste my time
already did, and you'll read this one too
>>345289006
lol
faggot
>>345288721
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
The right is very much dynamic equivalence, break it down to it's most fundamental component.
>conveying information on how to learn to beat monsters
this is done on both, the right informs you about what the writer thinks is the most useful way for you to learn under the cover of flavourful writing. The left informs you how to navigate menus to find out about them. I don't know the game as I haven't played it yet, but based on what other people have said it's not actually very useful advice.
They both do the same thing at a conceptual level, there is just a disagreement about what is useful.
>>345283428
>>345284424
>>345285110
>>345285501
>>345286012
>>345288784
You are such faggots.
How can you possibly hold this opinion?
>>345289314
How can you be so virginal?
>>345286347
Incidently, importing games is easier than ever. I've been taking advantage of this a lot lately.
>>345285938
>Player discouraged from learning because of useless text
>"How do you know that the useless text discourages players idiot?"
>>345288984
If that person was writing a version where everyone was a 15 year old ubran youth then yes.
Fortunately there's enough codes within the way people speak in star wars to direct you to not do that.
>it's a people that don't even know the difference between signifer, signified and the sign talk about language episode.Unless you're one of those linguists that just really just don't like that branch, in which case fair enough bros.
>>345289314
Because shitposting.
>>345289314
they're most likely children
>>345289227
That's the issue though, it's a bit more specific than "how to beat monsters" and the right doesn't convey the same information as the left. The right just says to study the monster's attack patterns while the left recommends an in-game tool that has actual information about the monster.
So unless there's another piece of dialogue that tells the player about that data, it doesn't seem accurate or honest to the player about the game.
>>345289437
>How can you be so virginal
plz stop sexually shaming that poor anon
this is an all inclusive board
>>345288938
>>tl;dr
how ironic
>>345276886
Generations had to have either been outsourced or given to a fresh team of ex-Treehouse employees because 4U was a lot better than this shit
>>345289619
Is >>345276886 a 15 year old urban youth?
>>345289690
Or maybe they just assume you aren't as retarded as the Japanese assume you are.
there is any list of assumptions and other information that may or may not be true, but they're irrelevant anyway.
I was addressing you saying that it doesn't fit into a branch of traditional translation theory when it does.
Companies need to start cutting out the "localization" job and only leave the translator job.
Oh and fire the HR responsible for hiring localization retards. Chances are, they are just sjw hiring sjw to "localize" your translations.
>>345276772
>>345288208
>>345288272
I miss the days when being a translator was an honorable job and not a meme one.
>>345276886
>tfw everyone getting mad at the memes probably doesn't even play mohu
>>345276886
>>345289883
t. cynical post-modern construct
>>345289314
Because it makes you upset.Welcome to neo-/v/. Enjoy your stay,
>>345289883
What you don't understand is that most of the time, there's two jobs. One to just translate. The other to "localize" the translation.
![thatsthejoke[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XVHDd1p.jpg "thatsthejoke[1].jpg")
>>345289789
>>345289820
The person in that screenshot talked nothing at all like how you did.
>>345276886
Looks like your standard Monster Hunter translation to me.
ITT: people who need to git gud
>>345276886
My main problem with the Right is that it doesn't tell you jackshit about the Monster List, or where to update that shit. It fails the purpose of teaching you about that part of the game. The only real part that it keeps is the researchers part - and even then it's vague as fuck.
The only acceptable localization is when it's for jokes/puns that will almost make no sense to a foreigner.
When you inject your bullshit into something that's not there, then it's a problem.
The dialogue could have still been "interesting" and informative like the left but they opted out with an easy "I'll meme it up" solution.
It's lazy writing at its finest.
>>345290076
The original left is supposed to sound like an informational help desk. She even throws in a sentence ending "wa" to sound more mature and feminine.
The one on the right says "git gud" uses snotty questions like "Who even listens to those people anyway?" and makes stupid random humor jokes like "I don't mean knowing their insides, that's gross". Sounds like a stupid teenager to me.
>>345284621
Good for you, you stupid fucking retard, maybe there's people out there who haven't played any of them before, jesus christ THINK!
>>345290693
>maybe there's people out there who haven't played any of them before
Not like it makes a difference. Every game in the series has dialogue like the right side.
>>345290474
So you have no idea how teenagers talk anymore
>>345291025
Hey buddy, I'm just going off of my personal experience. I ain't no pedophile who hangs around teenagers.
>>345281530
Im sure putting git gud in the dialogue pushed 100k more copies as opposed to pissing off the English speaking fanbase. Righto mate, pull your head in dumbass.
>>345291181
But you sure are some mad autist
>>345291793
Oh, I'll show you some real anger right here!
*unzips dick*
>>345276886
>getting mad over this
>not the "I wanna be the very best like no one ever was" line from the Hunter Arts guy
>>345292015
Wait, it took them this long to reference Pokemon in an MH game?
>>345292015
What's wrong with that
>>345291181
The people that talk like what you wrote are at university now.
I spoke to some of my younger brother's friends. (one of them weirdly says Europa Universalis 4 is is favourite video game, which took my well by surprise.)
>>345276886
I'm done
Nintendo can go fuck themselves
>>345285938
Anecdotally, I'm a different anon and this is my first MH game. I've skipped all of the dialogue in the village. It's really lame and doesn't even convey its information well.
I'd much rather look up the information on a much more comprehensive but also to-the-point wikia.
>>345293097
All keywords are in blue or red text. Just skim.
>>345293058
that's Capcom though
>>345292939
isn't that a literal meme also?
>>345293097
>I'd much rather look up the information on a much more comprehensive but also to-the-point wikia.
That's pretty much required for MH. Apparently it's on purpose so Jap players can talk and learn from each other's experiences.
>>345285501
>The Japanese version is too formal
Nah, the english version is too informal.
>>345293348
It's a song lyric from '98
>>345293348
So?
I don't care about the text because I don't read it anyways, but one thing that pisses me off is that they made all text slower so you can't just instantly mash through it all.
>>345290324
Fucking this. This isn't even a translation, this is a complete dialogue rewrite.
>>345293921
That's what translations for video games and anime are most of the time.
>>345293732
When is a meme ok and when is it not?
>>345287481
>>345287583
Not even in fucking Disney movies characters talk like that. Well, maybe in Dreamworks movies, but that's another thing.
>>345276886
I don't know Japanese
>>345276886
Fuck, they're becoming Gearbox.
>>345294179
References are okay most of the time.
If it's something shit like "damn daniel" or "such doge, much wow" then nuke it from orbit
Has no one in this thread actually played Monster Hunter or is everyone conveniently forgetting shit like "Keikaku means plan" cat?
>>345294517
Is the Captain in there also?
>>345281530
there's putting a spin on it, and then there's a loss of information, which is what occurs from left to right in this picture.>>345276886
I have zero issues with humorous translations as long as the same important details get across, with the pictured images you don't even get the same advice. That's no better than shit like the Simon's Quest localization.
>>345294517
The new 4chan fad is to act like a whiny faggot over translations
People read the NPC text in Monster Hunter?
>>345294709
Now I can't remember. I know it was the cat's name, but did he also have that tick?
I legit liked MH4U translation and I hope this one is as good as that one. Captain was the husband of all years.
>>345294862
>hope
What?
The game is already out.
>>345294854
Yep, I only ask because i don't remeber if i saw him at all since I didn't play that much of X
>>345294116
Yeah, but you generally keep the intent with it. If it's a tutorial, you don't have it go on a rant about internet memes.
You have it be a fucking tutorial.
>>345295060
It still is. The intent is the exact fucking same.
wait, there are people who care to read what those chars have to say in MH?
>>345295173
>left
>oh hey, so press the start button to get to your hunter notes, where you can find the monster info
>have a nice day
>right
>so have you ever felt like you can't kill a monster? well you know those people who tell you to git gud? fuck them. you should learn the monster's inside out - and i don't mean their guts, that's for the researchers.
They're not alike at all. One tells you where to find info and how to update it. The other tells you to learn the monster's attacks and habits, and has some info about researchers.
>>345295534
>Intent: Teach you how to play the game
>left: teaches you how to play the game
>right: teaches you how to play the game
Hm
>>345295534
people who find the joke funny just won't admit it's completely changing the tone of the game, the meaning, the pacing and the teaching. pretty shortsighted of them.
>>345295534
It's not an accurate translation but behind the jokes, right is legit better advice. The Hunter's Notes are pretty useless.
>>345295847
If you want the shitty, dry tone back then learn Japanese and fuck off to Shibuya-cho, faggot-kun.
>>345295817
>you
>in charge of reading comprehension
One teaches you where to find a mechanic, the other gives you a tip to watch monster attacks and observe. They're two completely different things, and not alike at all. The only similarities is that there's a line about researchers, and the lines are being spoken by the same NPC.
That's my point.
>>345295962
Honestly, I don't have MHG due to not having a 3DS, and that is good advice, so I can't comment on the nature of the Hunter Notes. But you don't replace a tutorial with some advice that anyone with half a brain will pick up on (i.e. learn the attacks and know how each monster works). That's just a shitty job.
>>345295817
In what ways does the right side actually teach you how to play the game other than to watch monster movements and to ironically enough git gud?
>>345296219
You already get a tutorial about checking your Hunter's Notes when the Wycademy guy in Bherna unlocks them for you.
>>345296096
sorry as a westerner I can't understand your post, try putting more memes into it
>>345295008
I'm getting it this Monday. So I haven't played it yet.
>>345276886
I guess this hits pretty close to home for /v/ monster hunter players because they don't want to be reminded that they are absolutely shit at the game.
Why is /v/ so bad at vidya guys?
>>345293058
I love how the nintendo haters are too fucking stupid to realize other companies have been doing the meme translations for years.
>>345296219
>you
>in charge of know what intent is
Don't die on this hill, anon
>>345296251
You answered your own question. Watching monster movements is a legit helpful tip.
>>345296343
Such faggot, much virginity.
>>345296410
They were pretty rare in Tri. Probably testing the waters. But the translation there is still bad compared to Freedom Unite.
>>345296609
FU's was bland and flavorless, just like your mum's cunt
Not only /v/ defends pokemon go, but they defend shitty translations too, what a joke
>>345276772
>don't drive to meme country
>they do it anyway
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>345297435
>slide about not doing memes
>contains a meme
Welcome to monster hunter localization
>>345297676
are you even trying with that weakass bait
>>345296609
The point was the meme translations have been around for a long long time. It's not nintendo only that does it.
I'm not defeding the bad translations. I'm saying don't point the finger solely at one side when everyone is guilty. It's a widespread problem.
>>345281530
That doesn't justify bad writing, family.
>>345276886
Having done translations job in the past, this is god awful. Did the translation team play Battleborn before getting to work?
>>345276886
BURN NOA TO THE FUCKING GROUND.
JUST TORCH THE WHOLE OPERATION, IT'S GONE SOUR
>>345289914
what really bothers me is that the localization pushes that kotaku-tier casual narrative that acquiring skill should not be required to play the game properly
>>345276886
Disgusting
>>345276886
reminds me of gearbox
i wonder if there really is an ounce of truth to the whole thing about them getting paid based on how much they change, so adding tons of unnecessary trash dialogue means more to clock in on their paycheques
i can't think of any other reason you would butcher games like this. it boggles the mind
>>345286347
>translator does a shitty job
>"If you don't like it then learn one of the most complicated languages and fuck off"
>player follows the suggestion
>interest on the game drops on west and localization are no longer needed
>translator get fired
>"WOOOOOW"
Fucking short sighted retarded people.
>>345299184
Because reading the same old boing text gets ignored. They change it to get attention, and it's getting it.
Gotta stand out somehow, someway.
>>345299827
well it certainly doesn't make me interested in their games
>>345276886
>OP is a git gud faggot who is butthurt over localized translation making fun of his rhetoric
>>345299878
>interested in MH for its dialogue
Faggot
>>345300305
more like i don't want to touch anything "localized" by NoA ever again at this point. i'm just disappointed how bad it's gotten.
>>345300472
Because you're retarded.
>>345276772
Is 4U's localization as bad and meme filled as Gen's?
>>345299827
They got people interested by lying
>>345295817
Are you aving a giggle m8?
>MH
>reading
lol, go play dark souls or something
>>345276886
If not for the memes and shit, the official one seems way more fun to read.
Maybe it's just a bad translation on the left one but it's just bog standard "do x for x" stuff. The right one at least has some personality.
>>345300728
Nice meme
>>345300615
4U had a lot of memes. Also modern day american references that make no sense in the MH world. You know how the MH devs built up a world where society revolves around hunting monsters? Where all the food comes from monsters, the clothes, weapons, even the buildings are all made from monster parts. Then some localizer comes along talks about grabbing popcorn at the movie theater or something, throwing it all out of the window.
>>345300775
Tri's writing was amusing and, most importantly, neither frequent nor long-winded.
MH4 was just WORDS WORDS WORDS making you talk to 50 people across 5 load screens between every single hunt, and now Gen has memes all over the place.
And I do mean all over the place, the Arts instructor is making Pokemon memes, the girl is making social media memes, like sweet mother of god I don't want to do this
They've ruined every single character in the game, including those that already had an established character like Granny from MHFU
>>345300942
>>345300992
How autistic are you to care about the characters in MH
>>345300939
I was legitimately asking if you were b8ng, the right doesn't convey the information it's meant to convey, at that point it's literally useless garbage and it's not even funny.
>>345300472
>by NoA
but it wasn't
>>345301106
Say that to the people defending the meme translations
>>345301151
The only literally useless garbage here is u m8
>>345299445
thats... a good thing
>>345301283
>no u
lmao kys
Well good thing I'm hacking my 3ds then cause I'm not supporting this garbage.
>>345276886
Those approximate translations aren't really approximate. But for such basic commands, it would be embarassing to make mistakes.
getting mad at 'git gud'
have you guys ever thought togit gud with your emotions
>>345301983
kill yourself
>>345276886
The right side is actually better because it actually tells you how to get better at the game with a legit tip that a lot of new players don't know. You gotta learn those attacks and tells. Left side just says where it's at but doesn't say why you might want to go there. Not really a tip and more of a basic menu thing. This is all for new player though since anyone that's played any hunting game already knows this information.
>>345301983
Bastard.
>/v/ tells everyone to git gud
>git gud is especially popular in monster hunter threads here
>localization uses it
>Everyone flips their shit
but why though
>>345301983
this show was a mistake
>>345286347
Everything Jeff Gerstmann types is pure stupid. Being fluent in Japanese enough to know all of the words, kanji, references, and subtle nuances of dialect enough to get everything out of a Japanese game's text would require many years of study including living in Japan. This is not something anyone did in his "day" or anyone else's day, for that matter.
>>345302551
It's the ultimate insult. I who never used the phrase am insulted by the fact that it has gained so much attention. People who use it are insulted because the game is telling them they're wrong. Everyone else is just bothered because they don't understand what's happening and would probably need some actually useful tips at that point in the game.
It's intentional, they're so sick of localizing MH that they're actually trying to make a shitty job to get fired.
>>345289609
Fucking this. I haven't read hardly any dialogue because of how fucking useless it is. The jokes were somewhat cheeky... 3 games ago. But their roughly the same "meow" modified hipster horseshit they've been for 3 games. Just get on with it and give me useful info.
I mean WHY does no NPC ever say somethig interesting like, "My husband used to be a hunter and always talked about his hunts. Diablos was his favorite. He always took a good, hardy ICE weapon with him, and would swing his sword near at its TAIL. He would always say, it hates to be CUT there.
>>345303152
This at least would be fucking useful information that hints at how to approach fights.
>>345276886
looks like someone couldn't get gud
>>345276886
Only in America is it an acceptable practice to completely rewrite a script for the sole purpose of appealing to as many drooling retards as possible. They must be stopped.
>>345303216
Granny in MHFU
>That sword in the cave was wielded by one of my ancestors. He used it to defend the village and repel a great monster long ago
(Builds up hype for Akantor and later reflects the fact that you perform the same feat while hinting at Akantor's weakness to dragon as chipped materials from the sword has dragon element)
Granny in MHGen
>That sword in the cave is our biggest sightseeing attraction! Maybe we should start selling Great Sword Cake?
(Does absolutely nothing)
>>345289227
for all your talk about theory and debate you ignore something so simple yet essential as function and context.
the function of that dialogue is to give the player information about a game component/mechanic related to gameplay, in this case a specific menu, whereas the right one gives you advice that merely points you towards something that would be considered "meta", which is learning the monster's patterns through fighting, while not informing them at all about said helpful mechanic (the menu).
so all in all, the right side translation failed at the very basic level of what it was supposed to do, on top of being meme-filled "flavored" garbage.
It's kinda funny that they removed a lot of the tutorial shit from the Japanese version and boom, let's just add some retarded lengthy dialog and more tutorial shit because localization
Doesn't impact me since I play in Japanese but it's funny how this shit is getting worse as time goes on
>>345289848
it's not about assuming the player is retarded, something that in your case would be correct, it's about telling them what tools they have at their disposal.
this is tutorial/opening 101, it's basic shit like telling you what buttons do what so the player can solve puzzles and if he misses it's because he didn't execute shit right and not because he didn't know what to do. gathering information from something like a log is part of those tools.
>>345302551
memes are not for writers
if you're going to put your own spin on things, that's fine
but you don't decide to do more work just to be a lazy cunt when you make a "new" joke
>>345276886
Tfw i saw the Git Gud meme is in the game.
>There are people preferring the butchered translation
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
>>345301983
how dare you
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
>>345276886
They don't even talk about the same thing.
Left is talking about the menu. Right seems to be on drugs.
>>345290018
I like that Zarya.
Who actually fucking reads NPC text?
