What went so, so wrong nintenbros? How are they making so little from this year's biggest Facebook meme?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Oh-the-irony-Nintendo-earning-much-less-from-Pokemon-Go-than-Apple-or-Google_id83092
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/google-apple-nintendo-who-s-really-making-money-out-of-pokemon-go-a7136906.html
>Nintendo just entered into a $30 million partnership with Niantic and the Pokemon Company to create the game.
>the Silicon Valley giants [apple and Google] take their respective 30%, then 30% go to the game developer Niantic, another 30% will go to the Pokemon franchise, and about 10% are left for Nintendo.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/07/unofficial-report-shows-pokemon-go-has-earned-14-million.html
>made just 1.4 million since launch
>making only 160k daily
>still isn't enough to make a profit
>probably one of the lowest grossing pokemon games of all time
How could something like this happen? Even with their high stock value?
>this will get zero replies
>>345206527
There's one and here's another.
>>345205967
>Not understanding economics
>Not knowing that pokemon go increased nintendo's stocks by 11 trillion
I laugh
>>345206527
Because this is /v/, not /biz/. It was already known Nintendo makes almost nothing from it as its not their game.
The point of mobile games are to increase Nintendo's brand identity and IP recognition.
>yfw pokemon go is so popular people own't give a shit about the NX
>>345206964
All this proves is how Nintendo's brands have a much bigger audience than their shitty consoles
Sticking with their shitboxes was the biggest mistake Nintendo has ever made
>>345205967
They will come out even in the end plus the sales of sun/moon they will be rolling in the money
>>345207051
counter reverse meta-ironic post-apres-garde shitposting kino
>>345207051
A-are you ok anon?
>increased company stocks since launch
>supposedly earned 14 million in a week
>what is economics
???
am i missing something here?
is /v/ trying to be more retarded than reddit again?
>>345206713
Anon, tell me what you think this means in relation to Nintendo as a company
>>345207113
hehe yeah, surely all those people that play GO because there's only the original 151 will play the new games with muh trashmons and muh keys r-right?
>>345205967
>making only 160k daily
Ok.
See this video
https://youtu.be/ov8UE7D1Zl0?t=310
>it's not clear how much the game is actually making for Nintendo, which is said to be somewhere around $1mil too $2mil a day, just in the US
wat?
>>345207306
Fuck you bitch. I'm not explaining anything. Higher stocks = more $$$$$$$ for Nintendo, dumb fag.
>>345207324
I bet a smooth 15 million in sales and that's way past any estimates they have.
>>345207438
>fag
Says the guy who probably kisses girls
>>345205967
>Nintendo loses money on Pokemon GO.
>Nintendo's stock rising.
>Mobile gaming is a joke.
>Mobile gaming is the future.
Why is /v/ so shit?
Pokemon go will probably increase sales of Sun/Moon 20-30% so Nintendo is laughing in moon speak right now
I'm an idiot, but I'm getting the vibe that stocks are not based on the actual worth of the company, but the perceived worth?
>>345207095
too true i can't count how many times people ask for mario on xbox or playstation
They make 1.2 millions a day.
>>345207306
Marketing. Literally the point of Nintendo's mobile venture you ignorant shit.
remember kids, nintendoomed since 800 B.C.
>>345207598
Serious answer?
/v/ is full of normalfags that don't play games, and shitposters. Just don't bump threads like this, and never ever take /v/ seriously - the /v/ hivemind is always wrong.
>>345207701
The GAME makes that much money a day, Nintendo only gets 10% of that.
>>345207598
They do not lose money. They make a ton of money. 10% of 1.2 millions a day is 120 000$ a day. Just for owning 1/3 of the Pokemon franchise.
oh shit i wandered into /biz/ again
>>345207740
>high stock prices are used for marketing
Like I'm talking to children
>>345207647
Are you actually still in high school?
>>345207797
>They do not lose money. They make a ton of money. 10% of 1.2 millions a day is 120 000$ a day. Just for owning 1/3 of the Pokemon franchise.
yep they literally did nothing to make this
>>345207797
>120k daily is enough for the most popular mobile app to repay it's $30 million investment
lol
>>345207795
120 K a DAY. That mean that it would take less than 30 days to get 30 millions.
And the game is not even released worldwide.
How do you suck at math that bad?
>>345207740
What exactly are they marketing for? Their underpowered, gimmicky hardware that never sells? Pokemon games that don't matter to casuals because it's not GO?
>>345205967
It fucking hilarious how obvious that the first article writer hates nintendo lel.
>>345207051
Calm down man, go eat your tendies or something.
But aren't we missing a few things here?
Isn't the partnership for 5 games minimum? Why is nintendoomed when only the first game came out? If other mobile games are as big as Go is, and the popularity continues then it's hella good for them.
>>345207903
300 days. Yeah. For a game with 1/3 of his potential market right now.
Nintendo doesn't own Pokémon?
it's no surprise that /v/ sucks at math
/v/ sucks at pretty much everything
>>345207921
not that guy but, you're thinking 3m with that 30 days not 30m
>>345207903
>repay it's $30 million investment
Where are you getting this number from?
GO is just a repackaged Ingress, probably cost peanuts to fund.
>>345208015
They own a part of the Pokemon company. 1/3
>>345208042
Yeah missed a 0 when I wrote it.
>>345207921
Anon...
>>345208051
uhhhhh read the OP, Nintendo invested 30 million into pokemon go
>>345208015
No, they only have a 30% share in them.
GO is not a Nintendo game, only shitposters try to at like it is. Nintendo just greenlight it (and it's speculated to have been Iwata's idea) to boost their marketing a bit - they didn't expect this colossal boom from it, though.
>>345207921
SO THIS... IS THE POWER... OF NINTENDRONES... D-DAMN...
>>345207921
nigga please
>>345208125
No, they invested into the partnership with Niantic, Inc. Other games will follow from this partnetship, plus the Niantic developer team can assist with their other mobile ventures that they'd already planned. Does /v/ even understand basic business practices or are you all utterly braindead to only see released products as the entirety of business?
>>345207438
>I'm not explaining anything
Probably because you don't even understand what you're talking about.
>>345207921
Please don't tell me this is a real post
>>345208336
>>345208009
can u guys pls stfu or something?? get out of my thread maybe?
>NINTENDO LOSES $28 MILLION FROM POKEMON GO
"Nintendo's" 30 million dollar investment is actually split between them, google, and the pokemon company(which normally doesn't matter, but if you're going to count the pokemon company's investment as nintendo's, you should count their cut in favor of nintendo), and 1/3rd of it is conditional upon performance, meaning nintendo's only handed over 7 million. Given that they've made a million bucks in the first week, it looks like a sound investment.
What a lot of people are failing to realise is that companies spend this much, or more, on advertising alone.
This is advertising plus steady income from the app itself.
Sure it'll take a while for the income to offset the investment, but that's normally the case. However, this is also going to boost sales of Pokemon merchandise and games.
Even if they don't break even from the in app profits (which they will), they'll make a huge profit from the associated boost in popularity of the Pokemon brand.
>>345208338
Not him, but explain why it's bad then.
>>345208338
Understand way more than you ever could, sonygger.
>>345208336
>>345208009
/thread
Just when I fucking thought /v/ couldn't be even more stupid
This thread appears
Sasuga OP
Nintendo owns a majority stake in The Pokémon Company as well as a large stake in Niantic, ya glue huffing retard. They've made far more than $1.4 million off the game, since they make money whenever the other two companies do as well.
>>345207324
>n-n-nintendo isn't dying guys look at those healthy sales! I LOVE AMIIBO
>>345208456
I'm the original anon, not him, but I'll explain. It's not bad, however the stock prices we see are the secondary market, Nintendo gets no direct benefit from the price going up unless the company holds shares and sells, or if they do an additional offering on the primary market. If the company's fundamentals don't reflect the share price, that price will go back down. Serious investors will look at that, and if a company is hoping to get some funds on the bond market any bond rating groups will look at the company itself.
In other words, right now Nintendo is not making money from the stock price shooting up
>>345205967
>Loses 29 million
>Their entire empire gains 12 billion in wealth over the fucking weekend
You're a paint chip eating window licking inbred aren't you?
>Game has daily revenue in excess of a 1.5m USD
>Probably make this shit back in a month.
>It's a mobile game, everyone and their mother will play it LITERALLY
>Higher retention rate then the entire console/PC industries highest retaining games.
>>345207941
How about the upcoming games that are set to release later this year?
>>345208937
>How about the upcoming games that are set to release later this year?
Paper mario color splash and federation force?
>>345208914
Explain what stocks are in your own words.
>>345209012
pokemon sun and moon you fucking retard
>>345205967
Murikan companies scam Japanese companies. What else is new?
>sonyggers literally digging up whatever they can to discredit nintendo
not surprising honestly
its not like you've got games to play
>>345205967
>making only 160k daily
but 30/0.16 = 187
meaning they'll turn a profit by the end of the year
and we're going by unofficial numbers only a week after a partial release (it's only out in very few countries right now)
>>345207647
Money isn't even based on the actual worth of the money but on perceived worth. Everything is perception.
>>345208913
Are you fucking stupid. You think companies don't invest in their own stocks?
>>345208914
>Game has daily revenue in excess of a 1.5m USD
you missed the part where google and apple get most of that and only 10% goes to nintendo
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
It's funny that Nintoddlers think that the general public cares about Sun and Moon. It's not available on their smartphones so why would they get it?
They aren't going to buy a handheld console.
>>345209278
Nah, Nintendo also owns stocks in Pokemon. So they make money there too
And the fucking investment is all their future projects, not just PoGo
>>345205967
I've never seen an article and by extension a shitposter STRAIN SO HARD to turn something positive into a negative.
>>345209360
This tbhonest famalam
The most profitable game is a freemium game
>>345209349
>nintendrones will defend this
Sonyggers are economically illiterate
And no one was surprised
>>345205967
>making only 160k daily
But your own article says the app makes 4-5 million daily
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Oh-the-irony-Nintendo-earning-much-less-from-Pokemon-Go-than-Apple-or-Google_id83092
>That's still a significant amount that goes into Nintendo's coffers from the $4-$5 million daily revenue from the game
Even at 10% Nintendo still makes much more than 160k.
>>345209231
Re-read my post, retard
>unless the company holds shares and sells
>>345208478
Yeah, lets put it like that.
>>345209527
Of fucking course they do. Who doesn't?
>>345209426
>Nintendo losing millions of dollars was all part of their plan!
>>345206713
Stock go up and down at a moments notice you retard.
>>345205967
You guys are all idiots. Japanese business plays the stock game.
Nintendo was SHIT for over 10 years So they bought back all their stocks for cheap.
Then they release all their good shit at once and their stocks skyrocket.
Any profits from games they make is gravy on top of the roast that is their stock portfolio.
Sonyggers are THIS mad about Nintendo succeeding
>>345209360
60 million people worldwide already have a 3DS you gigantic mongoloid
How's the Vita doing? :^)
>>345205967
A daily reminder that Google/Apple takes royalties from all Mobile app. It's about as much as Steam/Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony.
>>345209642
I don't see any success here: >>345209349
>>345209590
Read the entire thread fucktard
The three million is for mobile partnership in general. And the game has been released for what, a week?
Nintendo is also making bank of their stocks, I have not seen a company that does not invest in their stocks. And 10% of 4million is 400 k, not 160k.
>>345209508
If you don't delete this right now you'll regret it
>Nintendo makes a bad decision
Stop the fucking presses
>>345209642
>undeniable facts come out that nintendo isn't profiting from their "successful app"
>B-BUT SONY!
>>345209484
Clearly they won't as nobody did
>>345209745
How many times have Nintendo posted annual losses in the last 50 years again?
>>345209642
Yeah, they just had to go mobile to do it. This matters as much as Sony music matters to Nintendo fans.
>>345209745
Why are you shifting goalposts? PoGo was a success, whether you like it or not. It put Nintendo back in the eyes of the normies, and the mini NES is also a success too.
>>345209748
>three million
*thirty million
>>345209575
Not my point, only pointing out that Nintendo isn't necessarily rolling in the money just because the stock is up
>>345209779
>being THIS economically illiterate and not understanding companies invest in their own stocks.
Hmmm...
>people defend mobile f2p game as a service shit
nintendo fans are literally cuCks
>>345209850
Clearly not, since Nintendo fans didn't make threads about sony music but sony fans are making threads about this...
ignorance, they still think they are dominant with their handheld and mobile market are different beast when in reality its the same thing that eating their market away
also pokemon GO makes me feels good because i see even normalfags playing it
>>345209745
What's the Wii U's post-death drought got to do with the GO boom?
GO doing so well is serving as excellent marketing as even news networks are reporting the phenomenon, not to mention it's affecting people's daily lives as they play or see people wandering around for pokemon. I realise people always try to see the negative in everything, but for once it's just not there.
>>345209928
Yeah, my bad. My point still stands
>>345209930
It's more than likely though.
>>345209349
>tfw own a Wii U and a Vita
At least its not an Xbone I guess.
>>345209984
>people pay for free online that gets their credit data mined
>>345209590
Do you think that nintendo just gave niantic 30 million bucks for nothing or something?
A: They didn't give them 30 million, they gave them one third of that
>The investment from The Pokemon Company Group, Google, and Nintendo includes $20 million upfront and an additional $10 million "conditioned upon achieving certain milestones."
B: They paid that 10 million in order to own 10% of niantic.
Basically, this is nintendo's best investment ever. They're getting paid three times. They get a cut for owning niantic, a cut for owning the pokemon company, and a cut of their own.
>>345209847
>50 years
But video games have only existed for 20 years, anon. How can they post any kind of profit or loss from before their market even existed?
>>345209641
This.
/v/ literally doesn't understand basic business practices. They see a release doing well or poorly and use that as basis for their entire knowledge of a company's business.
>>345209508
Problem is, it's LESS than Appool or Goggle make. You see business is all about perceeeeeptions. And if you don't manage your perceeeeeptions then your stoooock drops. If investors perceeeeeeeive Nintendo as foolish and getting taken advantage of by Google and Apple, they will drop the stock because it will reveal something unadvantageous about Nintendo--that they're riding on luck and not skill.
>>345209745
>Pokemon Go is a huge hit
>b-but the Wii U is dead!
Mediocre.
>>345210269
I don't know how to feel about this post. Ironic or not
>>345209349
Who Tumblestone here?
>>345209984
I care because it made their stocks boom and served as easy mass-marketing that can potentially grab normie interest in the NX. Hate GO all you like, I think it's a fucking stupid fad, but this is a good thing for Nintendo.
>>345210279
>huge hit
Confirmed for not reading OP.
>b-but people sometimes post funny memes about it on Twitter so it must mean its making money!!
You guys realize the contract is basically an exclusivity contract, as in they'll only be working with each other and Sony can't butt in to work with Niantic for their next game, right?
So Nintendo will profit off of this.
Then Niantic will put out some Mario Kart app in a couple years and Nintendo will profit off of that
And so on.
This deal is going to make Nintendo a LOT of money. You'd have to be a fanboyish retard to not see that.
>>345205967
Why wouldn't Nintendo sell their own apk to keep their 40%?
>>345209627
Yeah, based on the perceived value of the company. It rose because of how successful and profitable Pokemon Go was.
You do know you have to be 18+ to post here, right?
>>345210439
What the fuck are you talking about?
I go into the street and I'm literally surrounded by normies catching pokemon. It's such a huge phenomenon that even news broadcasters discussed it.
>>345210439
I don't know whether you are being ironic, but I'll roll with it
Read this
>>345210129
Also 10% of 4mil is 400,000
And companies invest in their stocks. So they are making extra money. They are literally printing money off the stock market
>>345210534
FUCK OFF
THE PS4 IS BETTER THAN THIS SHIT
The hard 10% isn't the only thing to consider
>Nintendo partly own TPC along with Gamefreak and Creatures Inc.
>Nintendo also invested in Niantic for a co-ownership of unspecified size
>with Sun/Moon coming later this year the sheer force of advertising from Pokemon Go will certainly make a difference, not to mention advertising for other merchandise and eshop/virtual console games
>Nintendo's stocks have literally doubled in value since launch
>120k a day is still awesome money considering that the $30m will pay for more than just Go, note it says it's an ongoing partnership with Niantic not just 30m on Go alone, that's about 250 days to break even, and apps last a lot longer than that
>Go hasn't even fully launched globally yet, importantly it isn't out in Japan
>>345210534
>b-but my anecdotes means it's making money!!
This shit just keeps on going.
>>345207324
>Left out FRLG/E, HGSS/Pt, BW2, and ORAS
This graph is a joke.
As expected from board that pro-brexit and pro-trump
Another day, another Sonygger meltdown and BTFO thread. /v/ has gotten better as of late.
>>345205967
let's count how much nintendo earn from pokemon go
>30% will go to the Pokemon franchise
>pokemon franchise is owned by 33% gamefreak, 33% creatures inc, and 33% by nintendo
>nintendo owned 33% of pokemon company
10%
>nintendo also owned majority of creatures inc.
10%
>nintendo also owned large share at game freak
lets just assume ±4%
add 10% from the beginning and we got 10%+10%+4%+10%= 34%
And don't forget that nintendo didn't do anything in this project
>>345210684
>ignoring all the other posts
You do try. You do
>>345210684
>my anecdotes
http://comicbook.com/2016/07/16/vaporeon-appearance-sparks-pokemon-go-stampede-in-central-park/
okay m8, whatever you say...
lets all not forget the sheer marketing value of pokemon Go
every single nintendo event following its release will have a spawnpoint to some rare pokemon ensuring thousands of additional people attend it
>>345209575
Which means they will be selling off part of their ownership of the company.
>>345210732
I'm pro brexit and pro trump, but these sonyggers are retarded.
Probably bernouts, those tend to be the most idiotic of children.
>>345210732
ATTENTION
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>>345210819
>omg they would sell ALL their stocks!!!
Okay then
>boot up pokemon go
>no Nintendo logo
How can one company get so cucked?
>>345206713
>economics
>stocks
*eye roll*
>>345210732
>>345210883
>The Bernout is a redditor
So, how's that "no refunds" going for you then?
>nintendo went third party
>can't even make good games anymore
>their fans are okay with getting no games
really makes you think huh
>>345210784
Man, all that normies hype yet it would still take them almost a year to break even. Really makes you think, huh...
>>345211043
Hm...really makes u think. I am now #artilleryforhillary
>>345210439
>go to white good neighborhood
>pokemon go
>go to nigger hood
>pokemon go
>go to literally anywhere
>pokemon fucking go
Even the beach is full of people just walking around for pokemon, I honestly didn't expect it to be that big.
>>345210732
How does it feel to have your candidate cuck you?
enjoy voting for shillary you pathetic nigger
>>345205967
>"WILL TAKE YEARS TO PAY BACK"
Where does it say this? Does that person not understand how trivial this is when their fucking stock went up 92% in a week? They could be making $0 and they've already made back what they invested you fucking retards
the net worth of the company went up by literal billions
>>345210439
I'd say it's a huge hit if it's on its way to Snapchat and Google Maps in daily user numbers. It isn't even out in Japan yet and that's where the big IAP whales are.
>>345210684
It's a huge marketing campaign. It wasn't even intended to be as big as it did, but it was always intended to help market Nintendo to the younger mobile audience. I fail to see how any of this is bad when it's what they set out to do, and more is planned from these mobile developers they partnered with.
>>345211065
>not reading the thread
>not knowing companies invest in their own stocks
How can one man be so buttblasted he got BTFO?
>>345211065
>400k a day
>almost a year
About 3 months actually.
Subsequent games will be far cheaper though, requiring almost no investment from Nintendo.
>>345211158
Explain what stocks are using your own words.
>>345210269
>They been riding on luck for 30 years
>>345211043
forgot
>fans are ok with having to buy physical toys for ingame items
>>345205967
It is the most used app. When people inevitably buy pokeballs or lures or whatever, they'll spend money. If everyone playing spends a few dollars, Nintendo will make back the loss. Juse give it time, it JUST launched in Japan today along with a bunch of other countries. People also will probably inevitably spend money to keep playing on days they run out of pokeballs and the stops aren't cutting it.
>>345211240
something that apparently matters a lot on /v/
>>345211165
*on its way to surpass
Oops.
>>345205967
>another 30% will go to the Pokemon franchise, and about 10% are left for Nintendo.
who the fuck own pokemon?
>>345211065
The 30mil number OP is harking on was for the partnership, not GO as a product. Huge difference - the latter means more is to come, Nintendo already plan 5 more mobile games in the near future.
Plus, this has accidentally served as a huge marketing stunt.
>>345211240
A share of ownership of the company
That can make money if the company profits (kind of like an asset).
>>345210621
>he thinks the normies who care about pokeymon go give a shit about the yokai watch reject edition of pokemon
>>345211240
You realize that companies tend to buy up more of their own stock when it's low, then sell them off when they're high right?
Companies take advantage of the fact that they have a good know how of how each of their announcements and releases will affect their stock, and then use that to make money.
That's one of the points of being publicly traded. You can make a hell of a lot of money off of yourself on the stock market.
>>345207095
Except everyone already knows that you dipshit
Doesn't change the fact that everything Nintendo releases on anything but their own 'shitboxes' is essentially advertising for the brand's exclusive to those 'shitboxes'
>>345211338
The Pokemon Company
>>345210903
So Nintendo would own 0% of itself and therefore has no real say in how it does anything or any control over its profits.
>>345211280
Same as DLC desu
It also stays avaliable if servers go down
>>345211472
You don't fucking sell all your stocks at once
>>345211472
Nintendo doesn't need to own itself. Nintendo doesn't exist. It is an idea, a concept. Corporations are not people, my friends.
>>345205967
It's an investment.
Pokemania is seeding the masses. Nintendo owns a large (majority?) portion of the Pokemon company.
There will be more opportunities for capitalization.
>>345205967
>another "Anon doesn't know what they're talking about" thread.
>>345211471
>>345211471
so what is nintendo to pokemon? simple partnership? if they are separate company why are they releasing their games only on nintendo consoles?
>>345209984
>Not a single fucking person on /v/ makes any objections over any mobile games other game companies make
>People go apeshit when Nintendo finally does it
Why are you all such insufferable fucking memespouting faggots with zero self-awareness?
>>345211667
Nintendo buys licenses and funds development to help keep it exclusive
Like bloodborne on ps4 but larger scale
>>345205967
This is just depressing.
>Been annoyed about pokemon go since launch, even being a huge fan of pokemon as a child
>Man children friends over-hyping it and treating it like the coolest thing of all fucking time.
>Turns out it's an insanely massive financial failure
Feels good man
>>345211747
IT'S NOT OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
>>345208009
What's the next game? Fire emblem go?
>make your own army
>conquer spots
>make alliances with other players to conquer the world
Actually, if it's modern FE it'll be just pokemon go but you catch waifus instead.
>>345207429
Assuming 10% is right, 160k is within the expected revenue
>>345211667
Nintendo owns a majority of the pokemon company, which is why OP is retarded.
>It's a /v/ doens't understand business or even basic math episode.
I fucking hate reruns.
My favorite part of this thread is reading the replies to OP actually believing and eating up the clickbait
>>345211772
Yeah, the OP is just pathetic
>>345211564
Exactly. So why someone would think it would be okay to do so is insane.
>>345211667
Nintendo owns most of pokemon, owns a lot of the copyright on the characters and such, owns a lot of the names, and owns most of the stock on gamefreak.
Pokemon company is something co-owned by Nintendo and Gamefreak, mostly owned by Nintendo.
Basically, they're 'independent', but Nintendo owns enough of Pokemon such that it can never leave Nintendo platforms. Gamefreak can do whatever they want, but Pokemon is for keeps.
>>345211767
sony or ms, yes ms especially would pay much more, why are they not abandoning this sinking ship?
>>345211848
looks like this is the case
>>345211667
>letting analwrecked Sonyggers turn you into a moron
Nintendo owns Pokemon you sperglord.
>>345207324
>older games sell more over time
I NEVER KNEW
>>345205967
Considering they make it too easy to regain items, that was their main mistake. They made an f2p game expecting alot of people to pay for more itmes but they put out so many stops that no one needs to.
ESPECIALLY at colleges, which wouldve been their main cash flow. They shouldnt have put so many at a college to the point where no one needed to buy anything.
They basically shot themselves in the foot again.
>>345205967
>making only 160k daily
it's making 1.5 MILLION USD daily.
shit thread.
>>345211859
You must be new, they show that episode every weekend
>>345205967
nintendo is literally a JUST company now
>>345211986
they have nintendo by the fuckin balls
>>345211859
>>345211661
>No one replied to me the first time, please reply to me now I'm desperate
>>345207921
120,000 A day
Covering loss = 30,000,000
120,000x10(days)= 1,200,000mil
1,200,000x10= 12,000,000(This is thus after a hundred days)
12,000,000x3= 36,000,000 mil.
Total equals 300 days(that's 65 days shy of a year)
To recover that loss.
>>345212097
nah its the other way around
>>345212079
Nintendo is only getting 160k of that 1.5 million
>>345211982
>mostly owned by Nintendo
Isn't it ike 1/3rd? that doesn't sound like "mostly"
>>345205967
28 million is chump change compared to the reception this game got.
Nintendo is now fully aware its console and handheld market can be shelved at a moment's notice. thanks Kim.
>>345205967
They should kill this game
>>345212147
It's 400k a day, sorry m8
>>345205967
>It's another /v/ doesn't understand business or basic maths episode
I fucking hate reruns.
>>345212172
they just cucked them to mobile so no i dont think so.
I don't get how shitloads of retards are convinced that mobile gaming magically prints money
Downloading a free app gets the dev pennies from advertising, which is fine if you are a small dev, a couple thousand playing your game can make you money to live off of
But as a major company, the only way to make money is microtransactions and even mobile retards have gotten smart about that shit and barely anyone will actually put money into this app and will probably quit it in 2-3 months
>>345212079
OP is playing fast and loose with math and saying nintendo's only making 160k a day, since they only get 10% of sales.
OP is also conveniently ignoring that Nintendo owns a majority stake in the pokemon company, and stakes in niantic(and also that the pokemon company itself owns stakes in niantic)
I have no idea whether people are pretending in this thread
Just to make it clear
>Nintendo also owns part of Pokemon
>30 million is invested in mobile shit in general, not just PoGo
>Nintendo can invest in their own stocks too, making money in the process
>10% of 5 mil is 500,00
Jesus I am getting baited? I don't even know anymore
>>345205967
They should kill this "game"
>>345212330
>I don't get how shitloads of retards are convinced that mobile gaming magically prints money
Whales. Totally illogical people who spend millions on a game for no logical reason.
>>345212229
That's Gamefreak.
Pokemon Company they own more than half.
But again, Nintendo owns all the licensing for pokemon and such since they always publish the games. All the property is theirs.
>>345212229
they would lost it day one now if they werent 51% or higher
>>345212172
Nobody even has to buy their consoles to play pokemon now.
>>345205967
newsflash Nintendo owns pokemon.
How the fuck did Nintendo even invest 30 mil in a fucking Ingress reskin. It's a fucking mobile game, made by the devs who already had most of the tech done
>>345211432
This doesn't represent any long term health in the company especially if the reason the stock is going up is just a perceived boost in the companies fortunes when in fact it is not and people start selling when it turns out they didn't buy into something that was increasing profits and paying its shareholders nice money.
You are back to square one just with some extra cash that you might be able to do something with but I guess you will be using it in part to buy that stock back.
>>345212312
How? You seem to use the work cuck a lot. Is black dicks all you can think of?
>>345205967
>Another thread where op doesnt get basic math or business
Fuck this board.
>>345211747
It's like you never come here or something.
>>345212385
>>345205967
>Invest 30m
>For a literal reskin that uses models from the 3d pokedex
Where did the money go exactly?
>>345210732
>being a bernout that gets literally cucked by his own canidate having him endorse shillary after claiming to be anti establishment
>implying brexit is a bad thing
>>345205967
This is what happens when 1st world marketing takes priority over product.super volcano, when?
>>345211472
Stock the company bought from shareholders does not have any voting rights.
>>345212312
>cucked into mobile
>making mass emone
I'm sure they're sweatin'
Nintendo is not delving in plug n plays over next gen. they (I mean Kim) don't care about the future of the games industry, and will use the company's other strengths in new markets.
>>345207324
>Source: My Anus
>>345212312
>>345212441
maybe nintendo simply allowed them to do it that way? some inntendo experiment? dunno, my dad doesnt work for nintendo
>>345206713
>11 trillion
>yen
>>345205967
>it's another v doesn't know what theyrr talking about episode
I fucking hate reruns and this board.
>>345212480
first time I used it dr. strawman. are you playing pokemon go on a nintendo hardware or am I missing something?
>>345205967
>Will take years to pay back
>Nintendo earns around 328k USD daily
>10.168 million a month
>120.168 million a year
"Will take years to pay back"
OP can't into matemathics. Also, 160k daily is wrong. It might go up to 400k a day IN THE US ALONE real soon too, just wait until the Nintendo dominated countries like Mexico and Chile enter the fray, two of the biggest otaku/gamer capitalist paradises.
>>345205967
http://www.forbes.com/companies/nintendo/
>21.7 Billion dollar company
>misses out on a couple mill in sales of a single product
>currently enjoying a 92% stock growth
>Pokemon Go is literally a beta that crashes every two minutes
>Literally a skin of Niantic's Ingress
Pokemon Go has proven how valuable and powerful Nintendo's properties can be. Even with minimal execution, the intellectual property is far more valuable than the app itself.
>>345205967
Are you fucking retarded?
They have like 900 pokemon to slowly roll out, keeping people hooked for years.
>>345212458
If it was a perceived boost it would have dropped by now.
The Stock is going to stabilize around 29k yen, maybe 30k if they're lucky. It won't drop until the NX announcement (stock always drops on a console announcement because of uncertainty), but will bounce right back up the second they announce another Niantic mobile game.
Stop crying about Nintendo's supposed imminent demise. It's not happening.
>>345205967
Okay, so here is the deal. That 30% going to the Pokemon Company is going to feed (partially) back into Nintendo. Since they're the majority owners (with Game Freak and Creature being minority holders)
But beyond that. It caused Nintendo's stock price to soar. It proved to the world and more importantly to the company that there is money to be made in the mobile market.
>>345212676
*122.016 a year, was thinking about FY 2017.
>>345212701
>tissues next to the body pillow
Nice touch.
>>345212780
Nintendo also owns an undisclosed portion of Niantic as part of their investment.
>company that went to pander to casual markets dominate casual market
Wow. How unexpected.
>>345212680
>Literally a skin of Niantic's Ingress
I don't know mobile trash since i don't delve into it. care to clarify this a bit?
What is it with Nintendrones and the retarded /v/conomics?
No one else spouts this much retardation about stock prices and shit when their company does something well. Is this because there are no games to talk about and the only positive thing you can grasp at is a share price going up?
>>345205967
Perhaps Nintendo meant for the game to be more of a marketing vehicle.
>>345205967
Please pull the licence before you die Nintendo
>>345212591
Nintendo has all the sales figures up on their site.
If you mean "people only play GO for gen1", pic related, there's a reason "genwunners" are a thing to begin with.
>>345207324
>doesn't show yellow, crystal, emerald...
Fucking useless chart
>>345205967
Am I missing something? Did OP just pull the "loses 28 million" bit out of his ass? We already knew that nintendo was not taking in the lion's share of pokemon go profits. It's not developed or published by them, and it's not sold on their platform. They just licensed the IP, what do you expect?
>>345212925
>grand total of 4 people
I'm convinced
>>345212925
Don't add gen 2, Nintendo. You will ruin your link with Le 90s Kid normies
>>345212780
>there is money to be made in the mobile market.
There was always money. Companies just make shit apps with 0 effort and don't have brand recognition.
This is basically ingress with a pokémon reskin. Ingress was pretty decent for a smartphone game, dickriding a brand like Pokemon was obviously going to be a hit in the smartphone area where there's nothing but shit games save for stuff like Granblue, Deresute, Brave Frontier.
>>345212761
>If it was a perceived boost it would have dropped by now.
How? Have they released company financials and shit?
hide pokemon go threads, dismiss and dislike pokemon go videos.
you're all autistic manchildren.
>>345205967
Since Niantic was spun off from Google they have been seeking Series A funding. Nintendo through the Pokemon company gave them 20 million upfront, 10 million if they reach goals. This means Nintendo owns a portion of Niantic now and indirectly receives benefits if the game does well.
The Pokemon company and Nintendo are in all regards the same entity. With this increased revenue going to funding future Pokemon games.
>>345212881
Ingress was all about wandering on the streets of your city picking up shit for your faction. Pretty much the same idea here, except the added AR stuff
>>345207324
Post the remakes now you piece of shit
>>345212593
A rise in popularity in the Pokemon franchise, which has a game releasing on the Nintendo console, will increase Nintendo's profits regardless of their involvement with Pokemon Go.
And to everyone else, stock doesn't reflect current income. People are buying a shit ton of Nintendo stock because of the sun & moon games will sell more now & probably some more 3ds's
>>345213112
>you're all autistic manchildren.
>while he posts on /v/
>>345205967
Well, it would be a loss leader indeed, unless well it somehow makes pokemon sun and moon sell more.
They need 900k extra sales to pay off for this adventure, and i'm pretty sure they will get at least extra 5Mil.
