>Developed by Osaka Team
R U I N E D
Who needs to do inputs when you can just press one button to activate an automated, invulnerability granting sequence that causes massive damage to occur to the enemy regardless of where it is and carries no risk of retaliation? And you just wait for a bit for the attack to recharge and do it again, no resource management involved.
>>345200491
You're talking about the Reaction Commands, right?
These "automated sequences" are fairly rare and actaully require a solid reaction time. Hell, sometimes using them can also cause you to get fucked by the enemy.
But who needs that when you can just spam the trianlge button to look at all those fancy particles while your enemies get fucked, with no skill involved?
I don't get it
>>345200803
He is clearly talking about the dodge rolls and thunder/fire surges in BBS
>>345201096
Yeah, I got that by that after I read it again.
>>345201393
Jesus, I'm tired as fuck.
I can't even write logical sentences anymore
>>345200915
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2gC0UzCffw
Watch this
>>345201545
Watch yourself
>>345201782
Hey what the fuck man
will popping baloons be the most effective strategy again?
>>345201992
I prefer poppingloads of cum into Olette's pussy
KH 3 news when?
>>345202383
December
>>345202561
Is Nomura going to appear? For some reason it is rare to see him. Usually we just got that co director guy called tatsue or yatsue. Why?
>>345202726
That's something I constantly asked myself too
>>345202726
>>345202825
We at least know he's going to show up when they show the next FFVIIR trailer :^)
>FFX got cucked
>KH3 got cucked
>FFVIIRE is probably gonna get cucked
>>345202997
What if only Kitase show up? I doubt would make an appearance
>>345201393
>>345201473
Don't worry about it anon. It made me chuckle.
>>345200301
And the saddest thing is - Tokyo team is being gimped by Tabata's direction and his team of amateurs from Type-0
Even the main programmer of the Tokyo team left that sinking ship.
So, any reason why KH III is being developed for Xone at all?
It doesn't even get II.8
>>345203280
Square is miliking the series with countless multiplat and re-released games.
I thought that was obvious enough.
>>345203124
Nomura is pretty upset with Tabata as well from what I hear.
He literally got cucked out of his magnum opus masterpiece by that piece of shit hack and it doesn't help that every single decision Tabata made on FF15 has been for the worse.
>let's remove all of the Regis backstory cutscenes from the game and make them into a shitty Spirits Within 2.0 movie
>let's change Regis from badass Yakuza to a nuMale dad
>let's remove Stella and replace her with Luna
>let's completely break the combat system
>let's JUST the entire game
>>345203830
Can you blame him? I would be pretty upset too if I was him.
>>345203601
Okay, why no II.8 for xone then?
Anyone else lost interest on ff15 since Nomura drop off from that project?
I honestly lost all interest on ff15 since that announcement while previously I am super hype about it
>>345203830
I wouldn't mind the changed if the whole noir and edgy atmosphere of Versus was still intact. Noctis felt like a much cooler character before 2014 too
Instead we get sad dads hugging shotas for muh feels
>>345204143
I'm still holding my breath and buying but I'm extremely less excited after all the changed to both the gameplay and tone of the game
>>345203280
more potential monies
>>345200491
>>345200803
They confirmed that KH3 won't have reaction commands. They directly said it themselves when someone asked.
>>345200301
i waited 10 years for this shit seifer. I hope this game is receiving the best development treatment it can ever get.
>>345204143
Up till 2013 all new information they released looked better than the last, and I was fooled to believe it was going to be a good game. After that it has just kept getting worse and worse.
>>345204312
Oh dear.
>>345204452
Go play KH2.5 HD, that's what he meant by 10 years.
>Osaka team will ruin KH 3 meme
I'm so tired of hearing this. They have gotten their shit together. People have nothing but praise for the BBS 0.2 demo that was at E3
>>345200301
>Implying Kingdom Hearts wasn't ruined the instant it became of a concept
>>345200491
This is exactly how i feel about Armiger in FFXV.
Revenge value is back btw, so get fucked autists kh3 will be great.
>>345205503
Is this just about Aqua ass or what? Better than KH 2 fm?
>>345205503
I'm entirely sure that those are the same people that loved BBS.
From what I've seen the combat looks the same as BBS overall - same basic weak combos with a set of 3 repetitive attacks followed by a long-ass finisher.
The only real improvement is that the enemies react to hit-stun.
From all we've been shown in KH III, they still haven't got rid of their biggest flaw - love of gimmics instead of solid base combat.
Weapon transformations are a shit idea as well as the flow motion, shot locks and attractions flow.
>>345205503
that's a nice ass but i don't see how that makes the game good
HIgh level direction is being shared between Tokyo and Osaka, while Osaka is handling all of the low-level stuff.
The problems with Osaka are that they don't understand what makes the battle system compelling, which Tokyo does.
The problem is already resolved.
There's already a lot of subtle shit in the trailers that implies a deeper understanding of the classic mechanics, like Heartless focusing on the last character who damaged them rather than dumbly attacking the nearest opponent.
Also, the attack animations get slightly faster and less floaty the later the build is.
The thing we really have to be worried about is flowmotion and whether Osaka will try to push that garbage.
>>345201393
>>345201473
kek go to sleep you tit.
>>345205976
>rather than dumbly attacking the nearest opponent.
In Birth By Sleep you rarely if ever even have party members
Here's how we save KH3
Level/World design: Osaka Team
Combat/Enemies/Bosses: Tokyo Team
>>345205565
Why the fuck did they change it anyway? It wasn't perfect in Duscae but the Platinum one is just a mess.
>>345205795
This.
KH 3d has the worst gameplay. I guess BBS comes after that. Who develop 3d Tokyo or Osaka? That team need to get burn.
>>345206431
Osaka did 3D.
>KH3 will come out too early for a Gigantic world
Feels bad man
>>345206431
Who do you think?
Tokyo team hasn't been involved in the franchise since IIFM
>>345205976
>HIgh level direction is being shared between Tokyo and Osaka, while Osaka is handling all of the low-level stuff.
If only
Nomura said Tokyo team's involvement in the game is like 10% at most.
>>345206591
You think they're going to handle the 10% that manages the HUD art? or the modeling?
Nah, they're going to address high level issues of direction and gameplay.
They KNOW that the Osaka games aren't as good.
>>345206495
>>345206523
Welp, I guess thats it then for KH3. KH2 FM has the best gameplay not only in KH but I rated it very high too among action rpg game. Its Critical mode was godly. They should get Tokyo team to develop it then. Don't let Osaka ruin KH further please.
>>345206414
I don't know man that shit was horrible, i am hoping it's just some mocked up shit because the final version wasn't complete or something.
Armigger working like Final Form would be best for me.
>>345206431
What's wrong with 3d? i am waiting for the remix.
Only heard that enemies do not stagger and that's being fixed in the remaster.
>>345203830
>from what I hear
I know he was pissed about bring taken off the project but I haven't heard anything about him being upset with Tabata. Other than your points about Regis and the combat system everything you just posted is based on nothing more than headcanon and wishful thinking and we know so little about those two they might as well mean nothing anyway.
>>345206748
Tokyo team is basically no more anyway.
Most of them has been moved to BD2 which handles FFXV. Some key people like the main programmer (the main person responsible to how the combat feels overall purely tech-wise) has left the SE whatsoever.
>>345206794
>and that's being fixed in the remaster.
Source?
All the gameplay they showed looks exactly the same as the original
>>345207039
So why exactly did they remove Nomura? Is it really because he keep holding back ff15 and pissed them off or because they just really needed him in other area like they said?
>>345207039
Except Tabata already said that originally Regis' story was in the game but they decided to make it into a standalone movie instead to basically make it more flashy.
We also clearly saw multiple cutscenes with Stella before she got axed.
Keep on damage controling.
>>345205503
>casuals at e3 praising 0.2
casuals also praise bbs and ddd
We don't know if the game will be good
But I;m expecting it to be dissappointing
>>345207039
>the combat system
>headcanon
Nomura literally told that Versus XIII was supposed to be KH 2 gameplay but more realistic and grounded.
2011 trailer had almost the same mechanics as KHII as well, including the auto air-comboing the flyin enemies, magic being a part of the combo system, etc.
>>345207112
>Source?
All the gameplay they showed looks exactly the same as the original
recent nomura interview in famitsu or dengeki some shit, he said they're readjusting enemy reaction and drop rates.
>>345200301
Is Sora still 15? And will Nomura keep him that way?
>>345203280
>xbone version
does that mean w10 version?
If it does come out I might actually install windows 10
>>345205503
>nothing but praise
Bullshit. I played through the demo twice this E3 or the part that was playable up until you meet Terra. It feels better and looks closer to KH2, but it's still far from KH2. Combos still feel like they're not actual combos, they feel like really fast seperate hits, dodge rolls still have a weird cooldown and some of the jump and roll animations are too long/ serve no purpose except for looking good.
There's more to the KH2 combat system than just looking like KH2 combat.
I also hope they optimize the shit out of it, i get that it's an old build, but it was really unstable. Even shit like Star Ocean 5 runs at 60fps
>>345207570
No, anon, only games funded by Microsoft get that treatment.
>>345207263
Directing KH games, FFVIIR and FFXV all at the same time was probably too much for him.
>>345207645
shame
might get an xbone then
>>345207749
But I got the impression that he doesn't really want to leave ff15 project. If he really was tired, i am sure he would just said so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU3gm5PDZh0
Fuck you I'm hyped as fuck for 2.8 and 3.
>>345207263
Probably both.
>>345207269
>basically to make it more flashy
I think they did that because putting it in the game along with all the other stuff that happens in the movie and whatever else they originally had planned would've taken too much time to develop.
>We also clearly saw multiple instances of Stella before she got axed
Replacing her with Luna isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>>345207328
>other than... Regis and the combat system
It might've looked like KH2 on the surface but we don't know how much it actually was like KH2 other than having a command menu and the stuff you mentioned.
>>345208028
SE wouldn't let him to make the game another trilogy as he originally intended it to be.
Probably the guy just said something like "If I won't get to make the game of my dream my way, I won't have anything to do with it at all"
>>345208070
>that transition from 60 FPS DDD to ~30 FPS 0.2
barf
>>345207328
>Nomura literally told that Versus XIII was supposed to be KH 2 gameplay but more realistic and grounded.
biggest disappointment with him being removed was that the combat changed
>>345208070
Yeah... sure is fun spamming balloon... woo hoo...
>>345208236
If they actually tried KH3 could run at 60fps
>>345207263
The outline and story for the game were pretty much done in 2013-14, so Nomura left the project to focus on KHIII and FFVIIR (together with Kitase and Nojima). All that was left to do was to complete the assets, which Nomura thought Tabata would be able to handle. But alas, as soon as Nomura was gone Tabata decided to crazy and change everything, like a child throwing a party while the parents are away.
>>345208285
>... woo hoo...
>>345208070
So should i hold off on playing DDD and wait for this instead?
>>345208070
>posting some random retards reupload instead of the official one
one fucking job
>>345208070
I never played 3D but will pick the HD version.
Is it possible to play the game without the shitty animal transformations, pre-scripted flow-motion sequences and spammable skills?
I just want to beat the shit out of enemies with my keyblade.
Or it's literally the same as BBS?
>>345208452
It's literally BBS with more gimmicks and ALL skills being locked behind Not-Pokemon farming and grinding.
>>345203280
Probably realized a majority of their older fans have been split up, but that doesn't explain why 2.8 isn't going to be released on XBoner.
>>345208341
If that is the case wouldn't it better that he stays director and Tabata Co directing it. That way he is certainly more free to do something else while delegating day to day duty to Tabata. Honestly Tabata ruining Nomura vision really pissed me off.
>>345208341
I love this guy's excuse for removing Stella (not that I cared about the character in the first place):
"Our new team wasn't comfortable working with a character we weren't familiar with so we decided to replace her with a new one"
FFS, Tabata, you stupid twat.
>>345208568
>why 2.8 isn't going to be released on XBoner.
Probably Sony paid for exclusivity.
>>345208341
>as soon as Nomura was gone
Why do you assume Nomura had nothing to do with some of the changes from Versus XIII to XV? They co-directed the game for 2 years, it's not like everything was going fine until Tabata just shat up the whole thing the day after Nomura left.
>>345208630
Figured, but why not just do that overall with KH3.
>>345208628
Wait he really said that? You sure?
>>345203280
Easy to port
Easy to make more money
>>345208354
Just hold off. DDD HD is going to be the definitive version. There will be new Dream Eaters, 1080p 60fps, the enemies will now stagger and other mechanical touch ups
>>345208669
The pause between E3 2013 and TGS 2014 wasn't for nothing.
The game clearly looked way more different after that. They basically started rebuilding it from scratch using some of the Versus/E3 2013 assests.
>>345208679
Because Squeenix most definitely wanted too much for such a thing to be profitable for Sony. Besides locking out basically the game's entire Prologue on their own platform is enough to lock most buyers into buying the PS4 version.
>>345208669
>it's not like everything was going fine until Tabata just shat up the whole thing the day after Nomura left.
You're right. The change was gradual, and if you watch the trailers from 2013 and beyond you can see how Tabata's influence slowly ruined the game.
>>345208628
[citation needed]
Don't quote me on this, but I think it was more like them not seeing a reason to still call her Stella after changing major parts of her character, not because they were uncomfortable or anything.
Tabata single handedly made me lose all interest in FF15 to the point I don't even watch the trailers and have no intention of buying.
But yeah, sure, he totally didn't ruin the game.
Whatever floats your boat, I ain't supporting game butchering.
Will Axel be a badass again? Why did Nomura turn him into a bitch?
>Chain of Memories Axel was a cold-blooded badass assassin anti-hero
>Now he's a gay pedophile
What the fuck
>>345208994
Come on man watch at least ONE trailer, I'll even link one for you :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVk3EEjgd8
>>345208884
>>345208701
Alright, my bad, the quote was actually “Developers feel uncomfortable working on a well-known character if they have to completely change their role. This is why we decided to change the character completely.”
Still we didn't know much about Stella in the first place so that's a lame excuse. And they made bunch of Stela-fags butthurt as well
Guys please. Don't bring that XV shitposting into Kingdom Hearts threads. KH threads are the main reason I still come here (They're always so good). Please don't ruin them by shitposting about Final Fantasy XV. PLEASE /v/ let me have something nice
>>345209127
I saw the E3 one only because of being aired on one of the conferences.
And you know what was my reaction to it?
Nothing.
I didn't feel anything.
No joy, no rage, nothing.
I just felt indifferent, completely disinterested.
It looks like another generic flashy game with no substance and certainly doesn't evoke "Final Fantasy".
>>345209127
>they were really boasting the fact that Afrojack made a remix for them
>When asked audience at one of the presentation how much of them heard of Afrojack, not a single sound was heard
These guys' marketing decisions and game's showcases are inconsistent as fuck.
>>345208169
How long until Nomura leaves Square Enix? This guy is not exactly having a swell time there in recent years. I can see Nomura leaving the company if Square Enix is dickish enough like giving the reigns of KH to another douche.
>>345209218
FF15 is shit.
KH3 will be shit since Osaka is shit.
Fuck you mother.
Fuck your father.
Fuck your family.
And fuck you.
>>345209218
This is not about ff15. Thus is about Nomura. I am mad that Tabata ruined the realistic KH game.
>>345209310
SE gave him FFVII Remake, one of the holy trinity of the most hyped up things in vidya industry.
I doubt he's been mad after that
>>345201545
>that observation about Osaka team combos feeling weaker
>mfw noticing it in the latest 0.2 gameplay clips
Color me worried
>>345200301
>kingdom hearts
>good
>ever
Yeah, I'm sure your disney/final fantasy action rpg literally designed for 7 year olds was bound to be a fucking masterpiece until """"osaka team"""" got a hold of it.
>>345209127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXMJTGna_xA
Dawn was the only good trailer since 2013
Their marketing since Tabata took over has been the worst shit in i've seen in years
>>345209443
edgy
>>345208070
Holy shit why does the game look like a shitty Unity browser game at 1:08? Just look at the way Aqua moves.
>>345209523
Nah, this was the last time the game looked good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5_8kyz7o6I
>>345209443
I'd like to see you beat Critical Mode, Mr. Pro FF Player.
>>345209640
I still don't get why they changed the UI like every 2 months
This UI was perfect and fits the whole crystal/glass look. Now it looks like a mobile game UI from a totally different game
>>345201545
To be fair, the same guy who made that video made a video about the E3 demo and he said it looks like Osaka team fixed some of the problems he's had with their KH games
>>345209657
Spoiler Alert:Final Fantasy is also for children, and the reason why people like these games so much now is because it clicked with the autism when they were young and now they're attached and will eat up any shit fed to them by Squeinix.
So can someone tell me why people hating on Nomura? I admit I really like his games. He hasn't disappoint me yet at least.
>>345208994
Guys Tabata and Nomura are close friends, Nomura isn't mad at Tabata, he was mad at SE but if you read interviews from E3 2013 and interviews after the reveal of FF7R he pretty much moved all the XV gameplay mechanics over to ff7 including the character switching, because he pretty much said the same exact shit while describing the battle system.
So it was more like with Nomura leaving, the gameplay went with him and Tabata was left behind to create a new Not-Type0 gameplay and condense the games story from 3 games to 1.
The reason Nomura actually left is a 2 part story.
1. Square Enix could not afford to release the new mainline FF in 2016 and then say "yo the story is not complete, expect ffxv-2 on ps5", they needed to go in strong with this gen, they already fucked up ps360 so no more of this sequel shit was allowed after Wada left. (Wada left in may 2013)
Also if you do some research you will Notice that XV showed the same E3 2013 trailer in TGS 2013 despite Nomura saying that he would reveal new info at TGS, the game also went silent for more than a year until TGS 2014.
Tabata also said that he became the director of XV in December of 2013, if you go back and search for old articles you will Notice that in October of 2013 Square created a FINAL FANTASY committee with the sole purpose of discussing and deciding the future of Final Fantasy and the direction the franchise should take, Nomura was not part of this committee but Tabata was, everyone back then thought that Nomura send his co-director because he was busy but thats bullshit.
With Wada leaving in may of 2013 the new CEO started a reconstruction in SE. At that point SE probably decided that the best course of action would be to remake FF7 and leave it to Nomura and turn XV from a trilogy to a single mainline game.
cont.
>>345208831
>ruined
We don't know if Nomura's version of the game would be better or worse than what we have now. There's no telling how much of the dark and gritty atmosphere from the CG trailers would fit into the actual game, we can't really compare Stella and Luna or old Regis and new Regis and the KH2-like gameplay probably would've had some weird mechanic that ruins it like every KH game since 2. It's obviously different but "ruined" is kind of a strong word and there wasn't much to ruin in the first place anyway.
>>345209876
Ouch, be careful with that edge. You might cut someone!
>>345209943
2. When SE announced Nomuras replacement in Sept of 2014 they said "Nomura is leaving to complete work on Kingdom hearts 3 and other games only he can create" nobody payed too much attention to the last part of this, but they were probably hinting to FF7R.
Nomura in 2015 said that they decided to remake ff7 because it was their last chance, the company didn't want to create the remake without any of the old developers and kitase and nomura were getting old so this was their last chance to remake it. This is what Nomura himself said.
Lastly, he added that FF7R is his last duty as a developer and that once he finishes it it will be his last project (might even take a decade who knows)
So ff7r might be more important to Nomura than you guys think. It's his favorite game after all.
>>345210108
Want proof? see: >>345210146
and >>345209943
>>345207328
>>345208284
You're full of shit, the base combat from Versus XIII is still in FFXV.
The UI from Versus was literally a non-workable placeholder. Magic never chained into a continous combo considering animations are reset to the first hit unlike KH2 after execution.
>>345207263
They moved him for the FFVII remake, he left Tabata to finish the rest after the two tackled with changes (like Stella and Noctis being childhood friends from E3 2013 trailer despite Nomura 100% confirming pre-2011 Versus that Noctis and Stella met for the first time in the party scene as adults, when Nomura was still directing in 2013).
>>345206414
It was a rushed mock up. Noctis was shown doing Knightsguard like Duscae in the recent Japan ATR DLC footage for FFXV, which the ability was absent in PD like plenty of other features in Duscae.
>>345204312
That's a shame, reaction commands added that extra bit of flair where it would make Sora do something the player could only imagine doing. Sora slashing up skyscrapers might as well have just been a cutscene, but damn did it feel good having some input, minimal as it was.
>>345210146
Are you telling me that Nomura is going to retire after ff7r? Please no
>>345210280
fuck off ffxv-kun
>>345210280
Welp XV-kun arrived
Threads over guys
>>345210280
bazztek enters the thread
Friendly reminder to ignore his shitposting and lies
Will Shibuya be in KH 3?
>>345210280
https://twitter.com/_bazztek
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=843254&page=2
http://www.mognetcentral.com/threads/final-fantasy-xv-general-news-thread.3288/page-108#post-31957
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1541324
There. These are bazztek. And it's the exact shit he posts on /v/. bazztek is XV-kun. Everything else is XV-kun lies meant to create a foster of uncertainty.
>Some of his actual Twitter posts to show you why it's XV-kun
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/646152631988056064
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/630852427470639104
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/694376940766035968
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/687285358162137088
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/686650308919865344
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/686474866405457924
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/645259368611471360
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/730894301698232320
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/729433219242696704
bazztek is a major FFXV fanboy who keeps bothering FFXV twitter with autistic questions and fanart straight outta DeviantArt.
>>345204312
>Ditched reaction commands
>Keeping shotlock and flowmotion
I'm still generally optimistic for KH3 but this worries me. At leas the command deck is gone.
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WILL YOU FAGGOTS KEEP THAT FINAL FANTASY XV SHITPOSTING AND ARGUING IN THE XV THREADS ! DON'T BRING THAT SHIT IN KINGDOM HEARTS THREADS
>>345210280
HE'S HERE
THE HARBINGER OF DOOM
>>345200301
> Implying KH is not been ruined by all those side games already
We just want closure at this point... SE really needs to get their head out of their ass already.
Is there like a video with a deep indepth analysis of KH's story overall?
Shit got so convoluted fast and I really don't feel like playing some of them
>KH threads are becoming shit now.
Why? I like all the games, every time someone mentions Osaka being shit I feel like i'm in a DS2 thread.
>>345210256
Fuck you, at least that anon's posts are being informative unlike your useless shitposting.
>>345210280
Reused animations doesn't exactly mean same gameplay, xv-kun
>>345210683
/khg/ keeps this in their OP
Well, it's been fun while it lasted, see you next time, /nomuragen/
>>345210683
There's the KH Timeline and the KH Story in under 20 minutes video
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4bXdhSRyr42ROlKgh1Ds_cU_HOHKYsy4
>>345210702
Because of stupid shitposters like this faggot here >>345209443
>>345210776
shit forgot link, well this guy posted it >>345210805
>>345204312
>tfw reaction commands grew on me
they put so much work into this game, giving Sora unique attacks for so many enemies in the game
clearly took some effort on the animators part, with there being drives with different combos etc. as well
>>345210702
>People who tolarete Osaka team are the same people who tolarete the abomination DS2 was
Not even surprised
Hey guys why does FFXV look worse than the original KH?
did they just stop trying?
Tabata is better than Nomura. Leaving him with ff15 is the best choice. Prove me wrong
>>345210950
3rd birthday proves you wrong we don't need to do it. Even unchained X is better than that shit.
>>345210950
Every game Tabata has directed was mediocre at best.
>>345210950
He made only mediocre games while Nomura made KH II
There you have it
>find out what Osaka team is
>find out literally every KH game they made has been mediocre to me
well now I'm worried
>>345210934
>baiting xv-kun: mission start
Osaka team is so shit that KH3 is basically died now thanks to their unholy hand
>>345210702
There isn't much else to talk about with no recent releases and no new until the end of the year.
At least it's better than the /vg/ threads which discuss Unchained X and nothing else.
>>345210454
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/04/stella-removal-final-fantasy-xv-explained/#comment-2615608277
>>345211129
>tfw started playing it because of thissave me
>>345211026
Are you Implying that unchained x is shit senpai?
>>345206794
>What's wrong with 3d? i am waiting for the remix.
Enemies hit like a sack of bricks and suffer from BBS syndrome where nothing can stun them so you're kinda just attacking once or twice and backing away until they attack.(Apparently Nomura said they were tweaking things like this though)
The Balloon line is given to you pretty much from the start of the game and a single cast of any of the spells takes out more than a bar of health. -ra and -ga home onto enemies as well as producing more balloons and increasing damage. They also recharge in less than three or five seconds. Their entire existence makes every single command outside of them worthless except for the Cure line since they're so easy to get, cost only one panel, and they recharge so quickly. I killedJuliuson my first try with both characters with just two Balloonras, a Balloonga, and one or two Curagas. If you thought Surges were broken in BBS you don't even understand how broken the Balloon line is.
Flowmotion can activate in the most inopportune times(Like when you dash and it should drop you to the ground but instead you cling to the wall and have no iframes to speak of) on top of it dealing low damage the further along in the game you go.
Every area is built for Flowmotion so they're basically all just gigantic arenas or hallways for you to wall climb in.
Dream Eaters pretty much do nothing in fights, level slowly, level affinity even slower, and have to be grinded to actually get decent commands of any abilities at all, and it's not worth it to do this unless you get them as a star rank first.
Well that's it.
Time to put KH threads on the list of threads to avoid.
Can't wait for LISA threads to get ruined too.
>>345210357
>>345210360
>>345210379
>>345210454
>>345210649
>>345210739
>le XV kun meme
Not even you vapid fucks, not everyone who points out and corrects blatant farce is automatically Bazztek.
>>345211237
Not him but it's a repetitive mobile game
Nothing more nothing less
>>345210702
No offense, but KH threads ARE shit. If it's not FF15 it's waifufaggot shit about MUH AQUA AND secondary Kairi.
>>345211331
Whatever you say, bazztek
>>345211331
Keep denying it.
What the fuck happened to my thread?
Jesus christ, Bazztek, keep your shitposting to FFXV threads!
>>345211074
Kh2 is a mediocre button masher to which even critical doesn't solve in the slightest (especially after obtaining reflect) outside of post-game content.
>>345211501
It's fun and directed well though
>>345211469
>Completely sucks his own cock
>"Pssht I'm not him, duh."
KH was great because it had charm and style
where is that in FFXV? Its not there, theres just nothing good about it
>>345211501
>mediocre button-masher
Ah, fuck. Here we go again.
Even if you use Reflect, you still have to get the timing perfectly right, or else you get buttfucked by the enemies.
You couldn't even let me have Kingdom Hearts. The only good threads left on /v/ are Kingdom Hearts threads and nostalgia threads. Now you assholes have gone and ruined KH on /v/. I fucking hate every single last one of you dumb cunts.
And keep that fucking XV bullshit in the XV threads. Holy fuck you people make me sick
>>345210950
Tabata has never directed a good game
>>345211331
Sure, but not everyone writes the exact same way, with the exact same webms with the exact same filenames
>>345211641
I had a friend who had never played KHII beat what I thought was a difficult boss by just mashing the attack button.
>>345211751
>>345211641
did you guys call eachother?
>>345211769
Don't worry anon, I'll make this thread disappear :^)
>>345205503
>They have gotten their shit together
How do you figure?
>People have nothing but praise for the BBS 0.2 demo
A lot of people also called BBS the best game in the series when it just came out. That means nothing
>>345211331
You fucking use stupid as fuck XV meme images. That completely gives you away. You're gonna have to try harder, bazztek aka "XV-kun"
>>345211074
To be fair every game since KH2 has been kinda shit.
>>345211876
Nope, that was me.
Tried to abort the post, so I could edit it again, but it didn't work.
>>345211663
>where is that in FFXV?
FFVIIR stole it
Nomura is better than everyone else. Prove me wrong
>>345210702
Do you hate discussion or something?
DS2 being the weakest souls game and the B team developing it are no coincidence
>>345211663
Everything in FFXV has this plain and default feeling to it that I can't really explain.
>>345212004
actually Re:coded is fucking fantastic since it shows how the command system can actually work well.
It's just overlooked because the story is so inconsequential. But the gameplay is top notch
>>345212009
ah yeah i do that all the time too
>>345210034
>We don't know if Nomura's version of the game would be better or worse than what we have now.
I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.
>>345211287
Thank you anon, appreciate it.
>>345211769
Come here
I'll make it all stop
>>345212140
>That first time you get Zero/One and try out Target Scope.
>Going to level 1/1HP clears on every level.
>Going for the 100 Avatar Sector Floors
>In general just massacring everything at endgame due to all the trophy chips and +4 chips.
Takes a while to build up to the fun though, the start of the game is pretty brutal on critical.
Can someone explain to me what is Kingdom Hearts 2.8? I always though it's just a remaster of handheld games but that showed gameplay looks much better than just simple remaster of handheld game.
>>345212140
I agree about RE:coded being pretty fun but every other game with the command system has it's fair share of problems and Days has plenty more.
Can't wait for KH3 FM, cause i highly doubt it will have a lot of optional bosses and balancing
>>345212049
No.
It's just that DS2 threads are just people talking shit about. I also think DS2 is the weakest, but i'm not gonna dedicate a thread posting about it.
I just don't want KH threads becoming like DS2 threads where everyone talks shit about BBS and DDD, when those games aren't that bad.
They have flaws, but it's not shit .
>>345212464
2.8 is:
Remaster of 3D(The 3DS game, sequel to 2)
0.2(Sequel to BBS, follows around Aqua in the Realm of Darkness after the BBS Final Mix final episode)
Back Cover(It's a movie about the story of Unchained/Chi but from the Foreteller's perspectives rather than the Player's, takes place before and during the events of the Keyblade War)
Do you guys think Kingdom Hearts have the potential to surpass Final Fantasy? I mean Disney is fucking huge with star wars and everything so if they put all that in the game they might get Disney audience to.
>>345212140
it would've been even better if half of the game had not been a genre switching minigame
also some of the virtual dungeon floor challenges are bs
and those secret boss fights in the dungeons should've been more easily accessable
>>345211812
Crisis Core was alright.
I never understood the hate for that game.
>>345209071
Man that death was brutal. Especially in comparison to everything else in the series up to that moment. I think it has to do with Vexen pretty much begging for his life.
>>345200301
Don't forget all the pandering to overrated recent films up the ass while ones the audience since the first game have waited years for, especially Treasure Planet that came out the same exact year KH1 came out and only around two months after the US release, being shat on for not being popular enough.
So you have a game with a plotline and themes too complex for the small-brained kiddies and tweens who want to see Baymax and Elsa, and pandering to films the older audience probably doesn't care about.
>>345212657
At points in time it did surpass FF. Yes, Disney does have a huge influence on the franchise.
>>345212706
DIGITAL MIND WAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>345200301
How can you ruin something that was mere garbage from it's beginning? I'm very curious.
>>345211751
Half of the time i practically cheesed through world with the spell, doesn't help that they gave it a fucking buff when it was already OP as is. Critical became such a cake-walk even compared to proud mode.
KH1 felt more challenging even with its dated issues.
>>345212657
KH3 will sell better than FFXV, that's for sure.
>>345212656
Thanks for the explanation.
>>345212706
It's a pretty boring game. People only ever praise the story, which was written by Nojima and not Tabata. If anything Tabata gimped Nojima's script.
>>345212018
>A butchered episodic remake with even worse framerate drops
I'll pass
FFXV
E3 2013 Trailer,
"I can't stay any longer" said Nomura through Stella, "My heart won't let go" said Noctis who represents the player, us. "Don't worry about me (Versus XIII, Nomura). Live your own life".
"The world we purport to know is ever changing ending as we speak. So it is and must be for all existence." (Versus XIII is ending) And at the end : "you want the truth ? it's complicated".
E3 2013 Trailer has been a goodbye from Nomura you fucking faggots, we didn't deserve his Final Fantasy. Fuck.
>>345212140
I feel like I need to replay re:coded, I remember the whole game as FIX THE BUG, BREAK THE BLOCKS and THERES A GLITCH HERES A GENRE CHANGE, being really really repetitive and annoying.
>>345212706
Its gameplay is bad
It was handheld, I get it, but it just sucked
>>345212838
I really hope it sells better than XV because that game looks so unappealing and this is coming from someone who is big FF fan.
>>345212339
Whose quote is that? I knew it was O13 but who?
>>345212940
Rather play CC than the Osaka/h.a.n.d. infested KH trash post-2.
>>345212689
>also some of the virtual dungeon floor challenges are bs
The only challenges that are bad are the "Burn/Freeze/Air Blast x enemies" ones since it means having to change to a Keyblade with (Type) Counter, level it up to that level, and then block for days until you get the challenge done and then switch back to an actually usable Keyblade.
Getting "Clear this floor in 160 seconds", "Don't miss more than 6 times", or "Don't jump more than 10 times" is like Christmas compared to those.
>>345212519
Both BBS and DDD were great fun, and their flaws don't really diminish them in any way for me, they just made some stupid choices is all. DDD was even cooler thanks to the different stories for Riku and Sora and how they converged. It also gave us "That's nuts" which is the best scene of the series by far.
>>345212706
To be fair, slots get kinda annoying after a while. Game is still fun though.
>>345213092
Axel during the data battle. Always follows up with "BURN BABY!"
>>345212838
>>345212657
Maybe in NA, but globally?
>>345212837
KH1 was challenging BECAUSE of it's dated issues.
>>345213262
Don't both series sell the most in NA? I feel like KH3 will outsell XV in Japan for some reason.
>>345200301
Le osaka team boogie man /v/ meme
>>345213262
KH is pretty popular in EU, don't know about japan
>>345213145
>The only challenges that are bad
i remember some bs ones that require you to play at a certain time of day
if you want those sweet points, better put your ds away for up to 12 hours
>>345213243
Thanks senpai. I finally remember it.
>>345213398
Japs love Disney but I don't know how that translates to KH sales exactly
>>345213368
It will probably outsell it in Japan because XV is unappealing to japenese although Persona 5 will probably outsell them both there.
>>345211469
>what are you talking about
>I'm not him
>he's that 4chan user
Holy shit you couldn't be more obvious.
>>345213453
>i remember some bs ones that require you to play at a certain time of day
There's only one of those in the entire game outside of the Avatar Sector(Which is Luxord's board and one other XIII member who was for daytime) and it's in Olympus pretty much one or two floors in so it's not too bad, and the sector itself is only five floors if I remember right. You don't even need to care about winning in the Avatar Sectors unless you just want clothes as well.
will we get more kh2 gummi ship missions?
>>345213591
Please keep this cancer to XV boards we don't need that here.
>>345213262
the japs hate FFXV there are barely any preorders for it
>>345213262
Japan
KH3>FFXV
Everywhere else
FFXV>KH3
>>345210739
Actually it does considering its the same lead battle system designer on XV as it was since Versus.
>>345210379
That wasnt me.
But how was anything he said a lie?
Seriously in 2008 Nomura flat out stated that Noctis and Stella only meet for the first time at the party, when they are already adults. That already means that the little blonde girl in the 2013 XV trailer with kid Noctis can't be Stella because it already goes against one of the main points of information about her. The only logical conclusion is that she was already changed to Luna in 2013, because we also know that Noctis and Luna meet as kids.
>Can you explain what is happening in the scene from the images released?
>Nomura: The scene takes place at a party. This is the first time they have met each other.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100316112304/http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2008/08/20/famitsu-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-nomura-interview.html
>>345210454
You know what's autistic? That you actually have these links and shit ready to post the second anyone calls you out on your own lies.
>>345213529
>Persona 5 outsell ff15
Holy shit Persona fags are so delusional.
>>345213873
I said in Japan learn to read first.
>>345213872
>That wasnt me.
>>345213940
Persona are not going to outsell ff anywhere faggot
>tfw there wasn't a single scene directed like this showcased since Nomura left the XV wagon
There's something about how this game makes cutscenes that makes his style so distinctive.
Is KH 2.5 worth $15?
>>345213729
>this is for the Japanese console market
ahahahaha fucking Tabata what a joker
>>345213591
You realize that Nomuracuck accuses anyone defending XV as XV-Kun right?
>>345212706
the best parts of crisis core including the story existed long before tabata was part of square enix
>>345211469
Keke, oh wow, a real autistic sperg in our midst. This is hilarious.
I actually really like how FFXV is shaping up to be but this faggot is just amazing.
>>345214009
Yes.
>>345214009
Yes
But KH2 has an extremely slow opening though
>>345214009
Just emulate both II FM and BBS FM
Load times are terrible in the remasters (and I'm talking about load times that actually affect your gameplay)
>>345214101
Who the heck is that? He is supposed to be well known here?
>>345214009
Definitely. Especially if you never got a chance to play 2 Final Mix.
>>345214004
Everything from 2006-2008 was CGI concept, not from the actual game. None of that footage would have been used in the game even if it was still Versus.
>>345214268
Is there a BBS FM english patch?
>>345214016
>everyone
everybody knows neithof because of you, we already saw he claims bazztek,finalfantasy and talesrevenant is xv-kun.he is right
Last (you) from me fuck off back to xv threads.
>>345214274
Some autist who shits up every thread he's in. Just ignore him when he replies.
>>345213729
Is that why it's one of the most preordered games in Japan right now.
>>345214290
I know, I'm talking about the way he directs the cutscenes overal.
TGS 2011 trailer was amazing as well
Especially that scene with Ignis and Noctis
>I'll think of something that strikes them back tenfolds
>Noctis smirks
Fucking glorious.
>>345214274
That's XV-kun. He's been shitting up almost any thread where FFXV is so much as mentioned for the past 3 years or so and his autism is only rivaled by barneyfag.
