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>$25 for three new costumes, a stage and color palettes
>while also killing cosmetics PC mods
>while also ignoring the massive issues the game is still plagued with six months after launch

Is Capcom the most incompetent fighting game publisher of the decade?
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>while also killing cosmetics PC mods
Yeah, no, that's going to forever go down as a Capcom pipe dream.
>while also ignoring the massive issues the game is still plagued with six months after launch
I'm sure they have people working on those, it probably takes time and hard thinking to fix.
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>>345193372
>Yeah, no
Check the Reddit SFV mod page. Capcom introduced shit with the new patch that purposely fucks with cosmetic mods.

>I'm sure they have people working on those
It's been six month since launch. How hard is it to implement flag display of lobbies or matchmaking that doesn't take years or shitty lag every second game? This should've been there day 1. We're six months down the line and essential features are still missing while Capcom is selling costumes for rip-off price.
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>>345193530
>Check the Reddit SFV mod page. Capcom introduced shit with the new patch that purposely fucks with cosmetic mods.
And it will be circumvented by autumn at most.

>How hard is it to implement flag display of lobbies or matchmaking that doesn't take years or shitty lag every second game? This should've been there day 1.
I have faith that Capcom considers Street Fighter an important brand. If it takes this long then it must obviously be difficult, what with everything else they have to work on in order to fullfill the promises they made in the lead-up to the game.
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>>345193472
I'm genuinly glad I won't meet you online in this game.
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After playing this UNIEL this week I don't really wanna go back to SFV. It feels so good to play and I have so much fun just playing.
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>>345193162
>while also killing cosmetics PC mods
fuckers
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>>345193731
>I have faith that Capcom considers Street Fighter an important brand
If they did, they would've released it in complete form without outsourcing half of it to western tumblr artists. Capcom gives no shit anymore. SFV has less features than kusoge fighters. It's basically as barebones as a fighting game can be.

It's a disgrace when we have fighting games like Xrd, KoF14 and Tekken 7 all offering great value for what you pay for and then there is SFV that gives you half a game and urges you to play the cruelest mode in any fighting game ever so you can unlock a few more characters and stages.

Nothing about this game makes sense. Capcom shat it out hoping people would be sucked in by the esports hype and when that failed they just went back to selling overpriced DLC.
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>>345193952
>outsourcing half of it to western tumblr artists
How did they do that?
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>>345194007
They made an art design and then hired western freelance artists to model those characters. It's why SFV looks so inconsistent. Some parts look great, other parts look worse than PS2 games.
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>>345194106
That's explains ken's awful model and urien's on spot model. Should of at least tested the artists out and kept the good ones.
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>while also killing cosmetics PC mods

lol who cares?

You should know better than to play fighting games on PC anyway
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>>345193913
dead in a week
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>>345194237
Ibukis face is the worst thing in the game though
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>>345194407
I don't doubt it but I still love it.
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>>345194346
>lol who cares?
People who care about modding community and freedom of visuals, you fucking asswipe.
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Infrastructure and Online

>Ranked matchmaking takes too long
>Rollback netcode isn't properly implemented. There are often lag spikes and needless rollback that aren't present in other fighting games tested.
>Loading into online match takes too long
>Finishing an online match takes too long, it should jump straight to training afterwards without loadings
>The lag isn't displayed in numbers like Xrd does
>You can't filter lobbies after region
>You can't set unique comment for lobbies
>You can't set unique invite ID for lobbies
>You can't text or voice chat in lobbies
>Only king of the hill in lobbies, room-based structure with queue is superior
>Not enough FM reward for winning games online. You get measly 50 FM per win when one character costs 100k
>Not enough customization and personalization like Tekken
>No point really in SFV having a unique service. Should've just been implemented in PSN/Steam instead
>No tutorial online mode

Graphics

>Models are inconsistent. Ken looks like a banana. Ryu looks like a hedgehog. Alex looks like Happy Meals toys
>Awkward win and loading poses
>Ugly and few stages. Want to improve them? Pay Capcom more FM
>Ugly low-poly background characters that run at 30 fps. Looks worse than just static backgrounds
>Some hit stun effects are too flashy, making almost for a blinding effect
>Very few costumes in-game. You must pay $4 per new costume. And Capcom might censor them in future updates considering their previous actions making your purchase a risky one.

Single Player
>Story mode was unfulfilling. No proper closure. Loose plot ends. Plot holes everywhere. Bad writing. Forced fights.
>Lacking of many modes standard in fighting games
>Only way to earn FM and unlock colors is Survival Mode
>Survival Mode is the worst mode in human history and downright sadistic, AI cheats and you have to win a great number of fights in a row to get your reward
>Not enough FM reward for beating story mode

Capcom just released this shit year in advance.
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>>345194825
This game has fucking nothing on games like Xrd, KoF14 and T7 except brand power.
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>>345194607

> freedom of visuals

I'd be more sympathetic if freedom of visuals didn't boil down to 'kek make her nekkid' each and every time.
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>>345195045
If you don't like it, make your own mods or ask modders if they can do something to your liking. That's what makes modding great. It's all optional and completely up to preference. So stop being a retard defending Capcom removing this optional content.
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>>345194607

>tfw cant play bald necalli anymore

Why. The hair is too distracting
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Where's the reddit thread about costume mods being broken OP?
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>>345193372
>I'm sure they have people working on those, it probably takes time and hard thinking to fix.
I agree with this, they probably collect all those for a big update after EVO. If they release any of the fixes before EVO people will just complain about being used to something else, especially with the 8 frame issue

BUT, I also think none of these issues should have been present in the first place
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>>345195020
>except beginner ffrendlyness
Fixed
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>>345193952

>cruelest mode in any fighting game ever

1. You're an 09er for sure who has not played many games.
2. You're a storyfag who just wants arcade mode and winquotes.
3. You're more Bronze than Urien's skin.
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>>345197414
What other fighting game forces you to play a survival mode to 30-50 wins so you can acquire currency to unlock more characters?
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Just fuck my shit up
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>>345197846
>all for 24.99
That's a dollar more than what all of UNIEL costs on PC.

A stage and three costumes.
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>>345197548

Well, KoF Neowave requires you to beat something like 60 characters in survival mode to unlock a good chunk of the roster.

Unlocking Athena/Firebrand in SvC Chaos is also harder than SFV survival mode, as is doing some of the shit in Soul Calibur 3 like fighting Night Terror.

SFV's survival mode is a boring and unsatisfying slog, and that's a good thing. It's an unsubtle hint that you're wasting your time slapping the computer and you should man up and face some other players, which is the entire intent of the game.
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>>345197909
Why don't you want to support Tokido or Infiltration?
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>>345197909
It's fucking ridiculous, all of that should be free and included with the base game.

Costume DLC really marked the end of gaming.
Why not just let "modders" take care of costumes and let people share them as they wish. All they need is to provide an official hub for people to upload their costumes.
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>>345197205
Beginner here.

Guilty Gear Xrd seems far more beginner friendly to me than Street Fighter V. Especially Signs fantastic tutorial.
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>>345197969
Both those games you listed were D-grade trash fighgers, nowhere near SF V's level.

And how is figjting a difficult computer opponnent worse than fighting a difficult human opponnent?
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>>345198138
Because then publishers couldn't make money off of them.

Costume DLC is the reason fighting games that aren't all-poplkar can turn a profit.
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>>345193162
Why am I getting buyer's remorse? Is it because I suck dick at fighting games despite liking them?
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>>345198236
>Because then publishers couldn't make money off of them.
It feels like with the current pricing, even if they only sell a single costume they make an overall profit
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>>345197969
If the game wants you to ignore survival mode, why then hide most of the FM and colors behind that mode? Why not allow us to gain decent amount of FM playing online instead of measly 50 FM per win? Why not allow us to win colors through online play?

No, Capcpcom most definitely expects you to play and enjoy Survival mode. Because this company is defunct.
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>>345196947
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighterMods/comments/4t3inn/theory_the_reason_why_capcom_locked_the_colors/
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>>345198403
What? You want single píayer content don't you? Unlocking survival mode should take you a while.
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>>345198458
>They just really want us to pay 4 usd for each one of these and they ended up breaking most of the mods in the process,
I sure as hell am not paying just to get a recolor for costumes I already purchased $4 each. I regret giving Capcom any money at all, I won't add more to the pool if they keep this business model.
For reference, I put $120 in this game.

Fuck me.
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>>345197969
In KOF games where you have to play through survival mode to unlock shit grinding is irrelevant because they let you use the bosses, and most of them let you unlock only broken bosses anyway. Even in KOF Neowave where you had to unlock the balanced characters they let you use the boss Geese in that game
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>>345198476

Ah, but that doesn't give the scrub his precious win quotes!

He is left forever unsatisfied, unable to compete against real players in two round matches and not quite sad enough to hook up a second controller for those morsels of banter.

It's okay! Injustice will have all of the fluff you want :^)
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>>345198476
I want good content. Survival is nothing but shitty filler. Fuck that mode.
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All the remaining faith I had left in Capcom is now successfully broken.
Will never buy a single Capcom game again.
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>>345198701
>say more FM should be rewarded for online play
>make post implying I want more SP content

Learn to read you fucking nigger.
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>>345198798
like what?
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>>345193162
No, but they sure have managed to expose all the baby bitches in the fgc.
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>>345193162
I'm not defending crapcom for their stupid shit but DLC and bug fixes aren't made by the same people.
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>>345193162
yfw they got away with DLCs again
fighting game nu-males confrimed for cuckoldry
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>>345193162

There is a reason I haven't given a fuck about SFV and just watching EVO for Guilty.
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>>345193162
Considering sheep are actually buying them I say they know what they are doing

Who gives a fuck if it earns them money, in their mind it is alright even if it makes people mad, just look how succesful blizzard is at the moment and they make a lot of people mad on a daily basis
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>>345198031

Where the fuck did the $500,000 Sony added in for the pot go already?

That or Sony's completely dropping sponsorship for CPT 2017 so this jewery is because there's no pot bonus for next year and they have to fund one. I'd kek if Capcom moved it to PC and got a sponsorship from Nvidia in response.
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>>345199259
yfw you didn't buy the season pass that's completely useless and doesn't include any of this
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>>345199420

Hookers and blow.
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>>345199340
Let the people that want it buy it. Maybe that money will give them the kick in the ass to overhaul the game once CPT ends.
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My mods still work after the update? What are ya'll talking about? I still have 3rd stride Alex, Doll Cammy, and Q Balrog. Not toentire all the premiums I switched to default. One round Survival still works too...
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>>345198916
>content
Capcom has not broken this promise yet.

Content includes new characters, not cosmetic costumes or backdrops that do absolutely nothing but provide something shiny to look at.
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>>345199667
All content means all content.
The new stage can only be bought with real money as well.

It doesn't matter if it's not real content to you, everything that comes with future updates was promised to be attainable with fight money.
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>premier DLC designed and priced to support fighting game event
>retards go REEEEEE
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ibuki worst character in the game CONFIRMED

they made balrog so braindead fucking easy with retarded dmg that even he can have a rather high win% despite being as new as ibuki

buff plox
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>>345199849
>All content means all content.
Except they didn't even say "all content".
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>>345199849
Maybe that was originally the idea, but they probably thought twice about it as soon as people started cheesing the survival modes for basically free fight money.
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>>345199902
>those winrates
But they said SFV was unbalanced?!
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>>345199912
>>345198916
>unlock all content for free
can you read?
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>>345199471
At this rate I'm more worried that Capcom will let SF and fighting games in general die again. and this is just a last ditch money grab. Capcom has ditched entire franchises on whims.
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>>345199912
Oh really?
>>345198916
>a format in which you'll be able to unlock ALL content for free
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>>345197846
>A STAGE is worth ten fucking dollars to these people

fuck

OOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>345199964
Can YOU? This was taken straight from their panel they did.

Honestly, with all the disinfo going on in these threads, you'd think it is /pol/.
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>>345200067
It's more of a donation for CPT that gets you exclusive in-game shit.

Why is it so fucking hard to grasp that concept? It's not regulard DLC.
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>>345199952
Who did? All I've heard about the game is that it's balanced at the expense of having homogenized characters.

Also 56% winrate on Bison. Must be so many shitters online.
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>>345199952
yeah it is pretty good with one obvious outlier
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>>345199902
>Capcom deciphers that Bison is top tier from these numbers and nerfs him even further

Pls no
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>>345200235
So it's kinda like what Valve did with Dota.

Except Dota is free and SF5 was a $60 kickstarter.
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>>345194472
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>>345200235

>Game that has one of the biggest pots on the FGC including a $500,000 pot bonus across the year kicked in by Sony
>"PLS GIVE CAPCOM YOUR MONEY. THEY NEED IT TO KEEP THE GAME GOING. IN THE ARRRRRRRMS OF AN ANGEL..."
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>>345200185
Riddle me this
Why does the new stage not fall into this criteria when all previous stages have?

I'd argue that all cosmetic content falls into this definition as well
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>>345200412
I'm not even arguing in favor of the CPT Pack as it's way to pricey for my taste. It's just that you retards blow your top over nothing. Don't want to donate? That's fine. But all those posts screaming BETRAYAL over being unable to read basically and do maybe five seconds of processing suggests you fags are all chimps with downs.
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>>345200463
Because they chose to sell it and it's not gameplay so it still fits with their definition of "free post-launch GAMEPLAY content"
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>>345200463
Oh my fucking god, it's like talking to a broken record with you people. >>345200235
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Who else preferred SF4 business model? $15 for a yearly update with new characters and stages doesn't seem so bad in hindsight.
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>>345200762
>wanting to go back to this shit because DLC costumes for your waifu are too expensive for your mom to buy them for you
Nah, nigga. Fuck you. You'd have to be fucking retarded to think like this.
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>>345200762
Another plus: the game wasn't shit.
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>>345199302
Guilty Gear already had two versions this gen so far.
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>>345200867
lol
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Let's not forget the 30 dorrar season pass that only unlocks shit you could earn ingame for free~
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>>345200853
>le greentext implication text
Eat shit. $15 for a 4-5 new characters and a couple of new stages and gameplay mechanics was fair. $10 for just one stage isn't.
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>>345193162
>Shit game with no fundamentals
>Playing a new Capcom fighter
>Thinking Capcom will be fixing anything
>Not playing Guilty Gear, KOF, Tekken or any other fighter on the market that does more than a bare-bones fighter with fuck all content and online features that any other game would have on Day-1

Glad I got my £40 back for this shit. I would rather spend it on 40 £1 cans of Pepsi.
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>>345200904
>WAAAHHH I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO UNLOCK SHIT?!
>WAAAHH I NEED TO PAY TO UNLOCK SHIT?!
Which one shall it be?
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>>345199902
pretty sure I'm solely responsible for Ibuki being that low

ever since I switched to her from cammy I've been fucking up tremendously
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>>345200904
The season pass was the biggest rip off ever. I feel like with every new thing they release they make up new arbitrary rules to get more money.
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>>345200970

Chill out NoizyChild.
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I pity the poor fuckers that bought the Season Pass.
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>>345200762
>buy a new game every year or you won't be able to play the latest content with everyone else
Do you happen to be a Call of Duty fan?
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>>345200920
>$15 for a 4-5 new characters and a couple of new stages and gameplay mechanics was fair.
Except those upgrades were never 15 bucks and pretty much mandatory since if you wanted to play. In SFV you get the balance patches and compatibility for free, but pay for the cosmetic stuff. Not even for most of it. That's fair.

The fact that you care way more about cosmetics than gameplay-related stuff strongly suggests you're just another shitter who barely even plays fighting games.
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>>345201150
>suggests you're just another shitter who barely even plays fighting games.
this
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>>345201110
I pity the poor fuckers who cry about 25 bucks.
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>>345201150
>green text implying you don't play fighting games
There, I can also do it.
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>>345200982
i know that feel bro

with ibuki you need to be ON POINT at every single second of the match, even against shitters that you know you would body with a different character

when i play ibuki i transform into a saltmine
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>>345200970

The problem child is that the season pass offers no premium content to justify its existence. Everything it gives you can be unlocked ingame for free, and everything Capcom consider premium still costs additional money.
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>>345201285
I'd say the DLC characters' premium costumes are pretty damn premium.
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>>345197846
>25 bucks for three costumes

Wow, I found a DLC scheme more jewy than DOA5.
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>>345201284
>>345200982
Now that you guys mention it, I haven't played a single Ibuki since she dropped. I'm completely behind on that character.

Any EU Ibuki wanna play right now?
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>>345194607
>freedom of visuals

If it matters that much to you, finish that college degree and apply for a job at Capcom you mongoloid. Either that or don't buy the game if it bothers you so much that Juri is wearing spandex now.
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>>345201285
Well, if you buy it then you can spend all the fight money you save on unlocking all the colors, titles and profile designs.

It's a time saver for people with money to spend on it, like a level 25 character upgrade in Destiny. Sure, you can just buy everything by playing the game, but it will take a long-ass time to win that many fights when one win only nets you fifty capcom bucks.
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>>345201284
>when i play ibuki i transform into a saltmine
I don't get mad about it

it's just very frustrating to know that you just lost to a player that you would 100 - 0 usually

>>345201410
I'm down if you don't mind a shitter like me
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>>345201192
I pity the fuckers who can't unlock everything all for free.
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>>345201360
DoA5 DLC is fair because TN actually had the sense of making a complete DoA5 first with some optional free costumes first before starting the DLC whoring.

This is on a whole different level.
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>>345201410
Haruhater here.
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>>345201435
Don't worry, I'm a shitter myself. Hell, we're all shitters on /v/.

What's your CFN?
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>>345201360
>>345201482
So fucking wait until it's on sale.

It's just a stage and a couple of costumes, it's not a character or a mode.
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>>345201482
>TN actually had the sense of making a complete DoA5 first
The PC port strongly disagrees.
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>>345201504
infmelon
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>>345201482
>DoA5
Too bad the game is absolute garbage
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>>345200185
>earnable by playing the game

They're not. Not when you get 50 FM per match and each character costs 100000 FM. That is NOT "earnable by playing the game" in any practical world. It may technically be, but only a supreme hyperautist would play tens of thousands of matches of this shit.
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>>345201412
Is this a serious reply? Or do you actually suck this much cock for having modding taken away from you?
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>>345193162
Did they say anything about the next update?
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>>345201504

memememe
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>>345201536
>So fucking wait until it's on sale.
I thought this was a timed exclusive?
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>>345201578
Tens of thousands of matches isn't anything spectacular for someone who actually plays fighting games.
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>>345201578
>only a supreme hyperautist would play tens of thousands of matches of this shit.
then why would you want to buy more characters for a game you don't like?

I think you're the hyperautist here
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>>345201536
>So fucking wait until it's on sale.

How about I wait until they release an edition that comes with every character and costume already on the disc.
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>>345201624
Well memed

>>345201667
...and? What does that have to do with sales?
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>>345201608
Well, I don't suck cock, so I guess the only option left is that it was a serious reply, which is spot on. Either get in a position where you can make official costumes, don't buy the game, or quit your bitching.
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>>345201561
Sent you an invite.

I'm the Karin main.
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>>345193162

Kek, this thread

"Please Capcom keep charging me I will suck your cock and pay you 5-10 bucks per each shitty stage/costume gladly"

You retards never learn, I hope they double the price or jew you more
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>>345201684

I like fighting games. I like them so much that I have been known to play as much as one hundred (100) matches in them before getting bored of them forever. If you play tens of thousands of matches, you're not a normal person.
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>>345194106
All the characters confirmed to be done freelance (Fang/Gief/Ibuki with mask on) look great. They should have outsourced everything but also oversee the modelling quality as well.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9RBYa
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3a93m
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aDRl2
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>>345201684
Do you actually think it's fair winning 2000 online matches just to unlock ONE character that you may or may not like in a game? Do you really?

>>345201678
2000 won matches is still a heavy fucking grind just to unlock one character.
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>>345193162
Stop buying their game, stop giving it attention with threads (which equates to sales), and maybe they'll get desperate and fix it.
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>>345201820
>100 matches in one fighting game
>implying that is a lot
Nah, I understand you have a passing fodness for fighting games but to a true fighting game enthusiast, 100 matches in a game they like is pittance.
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>>345199861
>>345200652
>>345200235
Why the hell does that make it okay? You still have to pay for it.
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>>345201820

>I've been known to play as much as one hundreed (100) matches in them before getting bored of them forever

Wow! A hundred matches? Sounds like a lot of fighting game gameplay right there. Just shy over 3 hours worth of matches, geez, you sure are known to play a lot.

Hey, want to play some Super Smash later?
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>>345201835
Volta is fine. But they weren't the only studio doing SFV models. Capcom also outsourced it to some low-note Asian studios.
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>>345201820
Yeah, I wouldn't say you very much like fighting games if you can't play it for longer than 3 and a half hours.
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>>345201856

It would be easier if Capcom would have actually released a full product instead of this trickle bullshit. There's supposed to be daily challenges and shit to make earning fm easier
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>>345202057
If they make earning fight money too easy, there will be no incentive for anybody to pay cash for anything.
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>>345201740
>you are not allowed to criticize grorious Capcom
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>>345193472
Any one have that video of a toddler beating SFV
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>>345202114
I haven't bought a Capcom game since Trials and Tribulations, but good effort.
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>>345197846
>$x.xx value

Are they dense? Saying it's value for money doesn't mean that it is capcom.
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>>345202197
So? You're still claiming that people should stop bitching and get a job at Capcom? How the fuck does that address people wanting a game to have user-made mod support?
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>>345202098

That's why you have "premium" content that you sell for real money. Then maybe bundle it all up and sell it for a flat rate for people that want everything. Something like a season pass
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>>345201960
That's exactly right anon, you have to pay money to donate money to the prize pool.
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>37.95 Dollarydoos
Get fucked Capcom, no one is paying that.
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So people here are actually defending the FM acquired for online play.

50 per match.

100k to unlock one character.

If one match is 4 minutes with the slow matchmaking taken in consideration, and you lose 50% of the time, then 266 hours is required of online play to unlock just one character.

This is what SFV apologists are saying is fair unlocking. 266 hours of playing. I wonder how many people who defend SFV have played enough hours to unlock all of the characters through online play. Is there anyone here who has 1000 hours on SFV?

No? Then stop suck dick and just admit that Capcom should give you more FM for playing online and not lock all the gold behind the shittiest and most frustrating mode in the game.
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>>345194237
No it doesn't as Ken was never confirmed to be freelance

Freelance =/=bad see

>>345201982
>Capcom also outsourced it to some low-note Asian studios.
source?
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>>345201754
my game crashed

reinvite?
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>>345202265
Yes. Don't get me wrong, I've nothing against mods. They can increase lasting appeal and have even been known to help make buggy games more playable, but I'm also under no delusion. If the dev doesn't want there to be mods, then that's their call as the ones who actually made the game. You're not automatically entitled to mods just because.

Again, if you want to change it and mods aren't on the table, do something about it and get some employment over there.
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>>345198143
i remember back before the game got the tutorial people like mike ross,gootecks etc were justing saying the game didn't need and they should just look on youtube instead
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>>345202390
>50 per match.
The worst part is the incredible lack of anything gained from Lobby matches. I don't expect FM earnings because of the ability to grind it out, but I'd like to be able to earn experience to a character while actually gaining literal experience of playing as them.
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>>345202390
I don't think they meant for you to unlock characters solely by playing online.
The real problem is how retardedly long they're taking to implement the daily challenges, which were supposed to be the main way to earn FM in the first place.
Also if you're in need of fight money, doing all the characters story modes and trials, watching their demonstrations, and playing through both cinematic story mode difficulty nets you a lot of FM.
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>anon ITT
>actually defending this
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>>345202449
US Supreme Court disagrees, you are entitled to modify your game. You aren't entitled to do so easily.
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>>345202627
at this point im under the impression they aren't going to release the daily's until next year seems like they want to get as many people to get the season pass as possible
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>>345193162
>$25 for three new costumes, a stage and color palettes

Where the fuck were you for USF4? This shit ain't new.
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>>345202837
Or oops, it was just the Ninth Circuit.
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>ain't new.

everytim
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>>345202860
usf4 costume packs cost a whole lot less for a lot more.
This time they're trying to do what valve did with compendiums and TI, but the steep pricing coupled with their bad track record with DLC and SFV in general means they're getting memed on.
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>>345202776
I'm pretty indifferent to this, never bought DLC for any game and never will.

Lowers my expectations for future SF games though
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>>345201760
For fuck's sake, help him. Don't fucking film it.
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>>345202860
>ain't new
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So has SFV actually managed to be a success in the end?

And I'm not talking in terms of quality of the game, just financially. The game seemed like the blunder of the fucking century back during release, but did story mode, sales and EVO save it?
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>>345203017
You shouldn't have such high expectations for humanity, especially considering where you are right now.
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So are mesh jackets too lewd for Americans now?
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>>345203068
it's apparent that not that much money went into sf v so i guess they could've recouped by now. but then again this reeks of a desperation cash grab so who knows
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>>345203068
You'll get meme answers but I think they barely broke even with launch sales, not sure about DLC and Pro Tour profits.
If they had set the release date next year with everything available at launch it would have been a hit. Play it safe like Tekken 7.
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>>345202860
>This shit ain't new.
Whatever you say
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>>345203216
I wish I was one of those crabs. When Mika loses I would scuttle over to her body and pinch her all over.
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>>345199902
All I heard is people shit talk Bison now, yet he has the highest win ratio?
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Reminder that Capcom did character colors correctly once, and then immediately dropped it for more moneys.
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>>345203456
That was SNK, not capcom
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>>345203558

>CvS2
>not Capcom
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>>345194825
why did capcom decide to kill street fighter like this? WHY??
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ITT:
>Optional cosmetic DLC come outs
>WAAAAH WHY ISN'T EBERYTHING FREE
>FUCKING JEW CAPCOM HOLDING CONTENT BACK
>I don't even have the game but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>345203384
Bison has a lot of gimmicks that are easy to do and work well in patchy netplay. If you know how to do headstomps and devils reverse then you can go gold in half a day.
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>>345200360
Welp
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>>345199302
>Completely new version
>Still has Pre-order DLC locked characters and new DLC characters coming
kek
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they have to make up the money from that shitty launch somehow
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>>345203762
i think he means that SNK has done it way longer than capcom has
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>>345193162
Nah, they're just like every single game publisher around here: They love your money a lot more than their product.
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>>345193162
>while also killing cosmetics PC mods
>while also ignoring the massive issues the game is still plagued with six months after launch
What issues?
8frames? most likly not gonna fix that since the PS4 can't fucking keep up
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>>345203272
>paying money for palette swaps
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>>345201754
thanks for the sets!

can't seem to improve my ibuki at all though
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>>345203856

Good goy, suck that circumcised cock more.
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>>345201561
>>345202441
>>345204928
Thanks for the matches, my man. Ibuki has some really sneaky stuff, though I feel like most of it is rather hard to pull off consistently, which is probably why you rarely see her used.

Sorry if I played a bit like a retard. Basically haven't slept since EVO started.
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How do I git gud at Street Fighter V without buying a stick because I ain't got the money to waste on a $100 controller.

And also just Juri because I don't care for the rest of the cast.
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>>345204928
I've struggled with Ibuki, I think she is strong but a odd character.

Luckily I am having way more luck with matchmaking now, like actually getting them in a decent time with good connections
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>>345205046
Keep practicing. Keep playing.

Also, a stick isn't required to git gud. Never has been.
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>>345205007
>Ibuki has some really sneaky stuff, though
yeah I don't dare to touch any of it yet though since I get blown up in neutral all the time

and you played fine
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>>345205046
You don't need one
She isn't out yet and probably not the best to learn the game with
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>>345205046
you play it a lot and watch pro players of the character you're playing and do what they do
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>>345205119
>>345205132
It just feels fucking awkward to play on a standard controller when the game has 6 attack buttons. The triggers trigger me. Turned me off of some games I might've actually liked, like Skullgirls, or Killer Instinct.
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>>345202390
>This is what SFV apologists are saying is fair unlocking. 266 hours of playing. I wonder how many people who defend SFV have played enough hours to unlock all of the characters through online play. Is there anyone here who has 1000 hours on SFV?

Fuck, I don't think there is any game in the world that I have played for 266 hours.

"You can get all the new characters for free! All you need to do is play our game MORE THAN YOU HAVE PLAYED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE. PER CHARACTER."

At that point, why the fuck even have that "feature". The kind of people who think putting 1000+ hours into SFV is reasonable are the kind of people who are going to buy all your characters on day one anyway.
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>>345193530
>I have network/latency problems in sfv
There's nothing Capcom can do to fix your jittery garbage connection. The netcode works flawlessly up to around 100 ping but no netcode in existence can fix jitter or packet loss or delay.

You can limit jitter by not using wireless and not having a garbage ISP.
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>>345205046

Wait until the LoL fighting game based on Rising Thunder comes out. It's going to outsell everything else combined, and a year after that every franchise will drop those ridiculous hadoken motions that are impossible to do on a pad.
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>>345205264
You could get a fc4, cheaper than a stick

Also I believe there is a seal on TES+ right now, it's a good stick. Don't believe it will make you better though, if anything they take a while to learn
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>>345205129
Ah, I'm kicking myself over missed opportunities and dropped combos. Have played shotos for most of my SF life and struggle with charge characters. Shouldn't have dropped some of the charges, like during that one Balrog reset. Got lucky a throw stunned you.

But hey, you stood your ground. Your anti-airs were on-point. Almost none of my jump ins hit. You played way too defensive, though. Could've run over my Guile with proper mixups. And those two matches during the Ken set were yours.
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>>345205392
I can learn. If I have a comfy enough controller to work with, I can dedicate the time to git pretty gud, like I am in Smash, and ironically, my main is Ryu.
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>>345205413
also I call bullshit on that one guile super I v-reversaled out of :^)
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>>345205614
If you are use to smash you are probably best sticking on pad cause that's what you are use to and can use it well. FC4 is very nice, the old madcatz ones are also liked and have the 6 buttons on the face as well but apparently the newer sfv ones are pretty shit (never touched one)
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>>345205783
Yeah, that was weird. Maybe should have delayed it a bit?
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>>345194607
>you'll never put your head between chunli's legs

why is life so unfair? no seriously why
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>>345203332
lol
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>>345193952
>Nothing about this game makes sense. Capcom shat it out hoping people would be sucked in by the esports hype and when that failed they just went back to selling overpriced DLC.

Nigga, it's at its peak right now. Fucking EVO is happening. It's being broadcasted on television. This is the most exposure SFV is going to have right now and why Capcom threw the game out early. I wouldn't say it's failed yet.
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Daily reminder that Capcom USA is going keep covering up every non-SF2 character showing skin
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>>345203216
>mesh jackets and cute underwar
capcom has excellent taste fuck
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>>345201760
>average chinese life
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>>345206141
>you'll never be sandwiched between futa laura/chunli
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>>345206141
>BR
>basketball jersey
that's the real crime right there
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>>345205872
Yeah, I remember playing Dead or Alive 2 for the first time on Dreamcast and was actually stupidly good with Jann Lee at one point. Then I saw the game at an arcade and got my ass kicked because a stick was so foreign to me.
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>>345198149
Oh please, no need to try so hard anon, you know it's not the same thing.

SFV survivor is just boring. They don't even tried to make every fight different like in Vanilla IV. Not switched buttons, invisible enemies, inverter camera, whatever... Anything would do, anything to make it bearable the 30+ min waste to go through all 50 stages just to get some colors.

>>345193952
If you're complaining about "cruel mode in fg", you're definetely someone with less than 20 yrs old, probably never touched an arcade. If you had, you wouldn't be bitching about SFV "cruel" survivor mode.
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>>345206390
>futa Laura will never shock your prostate with her electro-dick

why live
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>season pass literally says its the characters plus premium costumes for them and nothing more
>normies bitch about this dlc about how it should be free

It should be mandatory to read the description of shit you buy to keep normies in check
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>>345206396
It's Sean's jersey so that makes sense.
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>>345206952
oh, that's pretty good then
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>>345206662
I completely forgot she can conduct electricity at well

You've made me even more sad, fuck
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>>345206141
I need to main Chun now
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>>345207634
at will*
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>You can get everything for free by getting gud
>/v/ resorts to crying about prices

I KNEW YOU FUCKS WERE CASUAL SCUM
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>>345207634
>>345207716
mfw

>>345206728
Capcom should be drowning us in free shit given how barebones and bad SF5 was on launch in Feb
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>>345206728
People shouldnt bitch about this not being included in the seasons pass, but this is still overpriced.

Regular costumes at 4€ are already stupid.
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>>345208095
Was there any doubt?

The Steam forums are just as bad, filled with people who put in 20 hours, crying about consumer rights over Chinese whorehouse owner costumes. If you needed any confirmation: The average gamer is a drooling retard.
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>Street Fighter 4 = $20 for 44 costumes

>Street Fighter 5 = $25 for 3 costumes, a shitty stage with models copy pasted from other stages and capcom colors on characters

Bravo, Crapcom. Bravo. I was trying to live with all the shit you've already done in SFV but then you go and shit even more on it.

I quit this fucking game. It'll only get worse.
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>>345208543
but street fighter 4 died after super street fighter 4 came out
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>>345208543
Bye.
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>>345208543
lel don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>crying over pixels
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>>345208543
They made all future updates and the characters free. Of course they will upcharge costumes to make some extra cash.

Gotta make that money somehow.
Sucks to not be on PC with mods I guess.
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>>345207640
>haha, tiddis, need to main her now so my peepee gets hard :_---DD

Fuck off to DoA.
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>>345194607
HOLY SHIT THATS A GOOD COSTUME
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>>345208741
>>345208543
The CPT costumes and stages aren't even regular DLC. We've been over this multiple times already.

Basically, they're donations to CPT prize pools that net you exclusive in-game goodies. And exclusive can be taken literally since they'll be gone from the store after November.
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How come the Dota 2 compendium is fine but this isn't?
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The west part is it's not the bonus colors, not the main ones, so you're STILL gonna be grinding survival
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>>345209207
Survival colors will go on sale though.
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>>345209148
>Basically, they're donations to CPT prize pools that net you exclusive in-game goodies. And exclusive can be taken literally since they'll be gone from the store after November.
And how much exactly is going for tournaments? Did they inform it ?
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>>345208741
>They made all future updates and the characters free

No they didn't. They only claimed they did, then made actually earning them in-game impossible. It's already been explained in the thread: you'll NEVER make enough Fight Money to buy the characters.
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>>345209429
>They only claimed they did, then made actually earning them in-game impossible.
HAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING CASUALS HAHAHAHA
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>>345209429
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>>345209418
Don't know. Look up their post on Capcom Unity.
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>>345209030
Fuck you DoA5 is legit.
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>>345209429
>They only claimed they did, then made actually earning them in-game impossible.
>I don't know know what I'm talking about
Okay so I know you want to shitpost but get your facts straight. he was saying you will not need to buy a super version etc to keep playing SFV, you just need the base game and then to spend nothing and you will get all balance, bug fixes, general improvements along with single player content

Why are you so angry about a game you clearly don't know anything about? You aren't actually interested and you don't really care
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>>345209418
Obviously they won't tell to keep fags buying their overpriced shit and giving like 10% of it to tournaments.

If Capcom was clear about this making it go 100% to tournaments, I'd buy them even if I do not really care. But as it is I'll continue with vanilla costumes since that's all I really need.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vv4X3fp8G0

Why capcom wouldn't release the full game on launch.
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>>345209485
Average of 266 hours of grinding required per character. You have to be the biggest loser on the planet to have that much time to burn on a below-average fighting game.

>>345209896
>Okay so I know you want to shitpost but get your facts straight. he was saying you will not need to buy a super version etc to keep playing SFV

There's no real difference between being forced to buy overpriced DLC and being forced to buy a "sequel" that only adds a few characters.
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>>345209693
>90 dollar costume packs
>Released with no multiplayer
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>>345210216
>being forced to buy overpriced DLC
You are being forced to buy all this dlc? Especially the cosmetics? You aren't even forced to buy the characters and can even try them out in the story mode

You have not been forced to do anything, but if you wanted to keep up with anyone in older games you were forced to buy the new version. Again, you don't care or understand you just want to be angry
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>>345210261
Contrary to popular belief, PC isn't the only way to play games. DoA5 was released in 2012 on PS3 and had more modes, characters, stages and costumes than SFV does even now. TN actually made a whole game before starting to sell DLC. Contrary to Capcom.
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>>345210615
Brimstone 5 times in a row in the corner
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>>345210216
You're just a filthy casual. A dedicated fighting game player plays even more.
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>>345201760
Why?
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>>345210815
Congratulations. You played enough USF4 over the span of years to unlock 5 (five) characters at the pace you earn FM in online SFV.
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>>345211046
That's weird, only a couple of days were enough to net me four SFV characters just by playing singleplayer. And I still have enough for another two plus a couple of stages.

You just suck, dude.
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>>345211046
Are you retarded? The game comes with 1.3 easily unlockable Fightmoneys. That sets you up for two seasons worth of characters and then some more because every character gives you like another 50k easily.
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>>345210570
Actually they didn't think multiplayer was important because the only mode DoA players play is the Photo Mode.
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>>345211046
They said you can earn that shit by playing the game, not that they would wrap it for you. Fucking idiot.
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