Are there any really cool singleplayer steampunk games out there i can try?
I've played Dishonored and loved it.
I've seen that Bioshock Infinite is also steampunk, but I've heard that the game itself is a bit rubbish. Is it worth a look?
>>345190715
dont play Bioshock Infinite if you've played either of the first two games
thief
>steampunk
>literally everything runs on electricity, even in the screenshot you posted
Nigga you dumb
>>345190715
Guns of icarus
>>345191772
But they don't
Avoid all the Bioshock games.
There is nothing of worth to be found in that series.
Seconding Thief (Gold) which pretty much set the standard for PC (and steampunk) games. A co-writer for Dishonored was a level designer for Thief, and it's apparent that some of Thief's brilliance rubbed off on Dishonored.
>>345191480
I've never played any of the others, i was just wondering because I've heard bad things about Infinite.
>>345191679
>>345192273
I tried the first theif and didn't really enjoy it. Is 2 or 3 better? I know the latest reboot is rubbish.
>>345191881
I like the look of Guns of Icarus, but I would be able to convince my friends to join me, which is why I asked for a SP game.
>>345191772
They actually run on whale oil, so it's whalepunk.
Assassin's creed Syndicate can feel pretty steampunky at times. There's evendlcsteampunk costumes, a zipline launcher, victorian gangs, carriages, and factories out the ass. But overall it's more Victorian with a steampunk flavoring than what you might be asking for.
>>345191772
>electricity
the only dumb one here is you, anon
they're powered by whale oil, which is a highly flammable liquid (in the game at least) and is used for everything
Friendly reminder that Warren Spectator himself said that deus Ex is not cyberbunk and you should be shit for saying it is
>>345193976
Source? It's not like he's wrong, but still.
>>345194076
somewhere in here near the end i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPKQsSRB9Dc
i aint lyin
>>345193976
Warden Spectator also made Epic Mickey games so I rarely care about his opinions these days
>>345193663
Thief 2 is essentially the same as the first game except there are no levels centered around monsters and it's more steampunkish (the first game really isn't steampunk at all, but the second game is one of the few well-done instances of steampunk I can think of)..
3 isn't worth playing if you haven't played those the others..
>>345194139
AHA! 31:20
suck it cyperbunk fags
>>345193739
What's up with the color autism? I mean, is that information useful to anyone?
>>345194498
i think it's a cosplay reference image
>>345194549
Oh, neat.
>>345193976
So it's sci-fi?
>>345190715
There are simply no good Steampunk games, not even when considering aesthetics alone. Arcanum has some neat isometric backgrounds (or rather, grounds) but it is an extremely wonky game with mostly poor writing. Bioshock Infinite is one of the worst FPS games ever made, mechanically, and it's designed like a corridor with series of triggers where you can hear Ken Levine spout his infantile opinions about politics. Similarly to Bioshock, storytelling consists of slogans blaring their oh so subtle message in your face.
I'd say play Chaos Engine. Or Machinarium. Or just read League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
>>345190715
>Dishonored
>steampunk
>>345195002
yes?
>>345195002
Dishonored is steampunk and a shit game.
>>345190715
No
>>345195263
its whaleoilpunk
>>345195263
>>345195173
Does a dystopian victorian setting with magic, magic whales, magic whale oil and an utter lack of actual steam give you a steampunk vibe?
>>345195340
It's a subset of steampunk just like biopunk is a subset of cyberpunk. The main theme, colonial age and alt history/tech is still there. Arcanum is actually the stupidest way to develop steampunk, throwing in orcs and other boring Tolkien shit.
>>345195357
>dystopian victorian setting
There's your answer.
>>345195456
So everything victorian with alt tech is now steampunk
>>345195357
>magic
yes, not really steampunk
>magic whales
??
>magic whale oil
????
just because it's not 100% traditional steampunk doesn't mean it's not steampunk
>>345195456
this guy is right
>>345195494
No, but there's a clear aesthetic intent right down to uniforms, city life, approach to science and scientists and those stilt striders or whatever. That's the definition of a genre. You don't need to zoom in on the gears to make it steampunk.
>>345195623
Since when is steampunk considered primarily dystopian
>>345190715
Arcanum would be the closest to "good" as far as steampunk goes, it's as steampunk as Shadowrun is cyberpunk, both with the magic element.
Fun fact: the purported originator of cyberpunk, William Gibson, is also credited with the origination of steampunk.
Is no one gonna talk about how the VA for the Outsider isnt coming back for 2 and that reddit is current hugboxing him?
>like I care at this point this nigga's username is TrannyDestroyer.
In all I feel bad for him tho famalam. they did even tell him about--it is really like a no-name David Hayter situation
>>345195817
>Is no one gonna talk about how the VA for the Outsider isnt coming back for 2
What, why
>>345195675
>Since when is steampunk considered primarily dystopian
Since always. For starters, the Victorian era was an inherently dystopian time period, but virtually all steampunk works play up the lower class poverty, authoritarian politics, sprawling polluted cities and terrible working class conditions.
>>345195817
Who's the Hollywood-tier VA replacing him? They had Madsen and Hitgirl for the original, so they're likely to get a decent B-lister.
>>345195817
Fuck Imean they DIDNT tell him my b
>>345195854
>virtually all steampunk works play up the lower class poverty, authoritarian politics, sprawling polluted cities and terrible working class conditions.
So basically every story about the Dickensian period ever? Steampunk hardly introduces any themes original to the actual industrialisation, it just turns shit up to 11.
>>345195817
I don't care, they ruined the Outsider by making him into a bullied little boy that got powers because lol so randumb instead of something tied to the Whales. Also we're getting Stephen Russell.
>>345195947
What?
>>345195947
I'm gonna remain skeptical about the actual origins of the Outsider until we get some in-game lore on it rather than just relying on Harvey's twitter shenanigans. I want to believe he's the astral projection of the leviathan that's mentioned more than once rather than just SOME BLOKE.
>>345195927
I always thought the -punk subgenres were meant to emphasize the terrible social and cultural issues of the day that aren't dealt with as technology advances and turns into fantasy.
>>345196013
Didn't Outsider say he was just "some bloke" in the first game
>>345196013
Remaining skeptical won't change the fact that the lead writer literally said what he thinks the Outsider is.
>>345196091
I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE.
>>345196013
Is the Leviathan some Barkeresque or Lovecraftian elder god type shit? Never got too far in Dishonoured.
>>345195854
>the Victorian era was an inherently dystopian time period
found the marxist cuck
>>345195927
Dickensian stories are not dystopian
>>345195675
Not primarily but since it's a subset of cyberpunk one of its themes is the juxtaposition of advanced tech and slum life.
>>345196091
What the lead writer thinks and what the lead writer actually does are different things
>>345195918
Dunno--in all honesty he seems he's going through that B-BUT I DONT REALLY C-CARE GUYS stage.
Still pretty fucked tho seems like a chill dude--or maybe Im confusing his sorrow for that
>>345196057
I always thought -punk genres were based on what a person from whatever time-period might've envisioned the future being like.
http://dishonored.wikia.com/wiki/The_Deep_Watchers
BUT WHO WAS BOOK?
>>345195927
>Genre set in time period.
>Uses cultural and social issues and moores relevant to the time period.
I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here?
>>345196130
It's a magic transdimensional space whale. Or something along the lines
>>345190715
Bioshock 1 has a great story/atmosphere, marred by mediocre combat.
Bioshock 2 has improved combat, marred by mediocre story/atmosphere
Bioshock infinite's only redeeming point is all the Elizabeth porn that's been made.
>>345190715
Infinite is an alright game if you know nothing about it. /v/ is more salty on it because it had a lot cut from the build up to release.
It's a pretty fun steampunk shooter that should be up your alley, not as freeform as Dishonored but still alright.
>>345196269
where did you guys get this info from?
i played the game but i never found anything pointing towards a "transdimensional space whale"
read something about "leviathans" though
>>345190715
>is bioshock infinate good?
The only good thing about bioshock infinate are the chaotic, fast paced battles that take place near a sky rail.
>mfw there's more thought put into the packaging than the story design
>>345196343
You play game, you read books, you listen to things, you make connections
>>345196153
>Dickensian stories are not dystopian
Have you even read a single novel by dickens? Jesus christ. Oliver twist? Bleak house? Tale of two cities? Ring any bells?
>>345196269
Like the whales from the old Star Trek movie?
Bear in mind this is a vague recollction
>>345195947
I would really love some proper explanation as to why Emily now has super powers, and on top of that, different powers from Corvo.
Did he just give her powers because Corvo asked him to? Was just because he fucking felt like it? They better give a proper motive.
>>345196516
I've no idea. The whales and everything about them is magic. They also appear in the void which seems to be the source of magic in the world. Local religion denounces the void and the Outsider as blasphemous
>>345196615
Why do you have a problem with Emily having the Outsiders mark and not the others?
Why did Corvo have it?
Why did Daud have it?
Why did Delilah have it?
>>345196615
Probably because he thinks she'll do some interesting shit with the powers he gives her. That's basically the reason Corvo got his.
>>345196463
Yes. They have nothing to do with dystopia which is a 20th century theme. Dickens and works influenced by him are the product of 19th century's focus on human squalor and inhuman conditions faced by lower classes. He's the British Victor Hugo who dealt with similar themes.
Their works are not dystopian because bleakness is contrasted by hope, but not hope that leads into more despair as it is the case with Orwell and Huxley, but hope that can transform the world(view) in the end. It's humanism and even proto-socialism.
>>345196343
There are references to both whales as "leviathans" but also a more specific one; "the leviathan" which is mentioned in some writing as a form of the Outsider.
"Spirit of the Deep, Siren of the Dreams.
I walked for hours along the coast, leaving Dunwall behind me until the lament of the waves drowned all other feeling. I wept, knowing you would not come to me, my love.
You rule my dreams, where I behold with senses I do not possess in waking life the dark splendor of your home in the deep. There the ocean rests on your back like a sleeping child on his father's shoulders.
In these sleepless nights of despair, you appear to me not as the mighty leviathan, but as a young man, with eyes as black as the Void." - Spirit of the Deep
>>345196615
>I haven't played the game: the post
>tfw the only way to get the best ending in 2 is if you refuse the Outsiders help
>tfw the casuals will be screaming "THE GAME PUNISHES ME FOR GOING LETHAL AND USING MY POWERS" even harder now
>>345196656
So it's like the Pagans and Hammerites from the Looking Glass Thief games?
>>345196615
Basically what >>345196714 said. The Outsider is curious about what might happen if he gives powers to people he finds interesting. This becomes very apparent in the game after you've played the Daud DLCs as you notice that the Outsider's responses to Corvo if he goes high chaos are pretty tame because he's seen this all before in Daud. Similarily when you actually play as Daud, the Outsider seems less and less interested if you keep killing everything and everyone because that's what Daud has been doing for the last decade as the top hired assassin of Dunwall; killing aristocrats like they're cattle.
>>345196865
Unsurprisingly, game was made by Deus Ex and Thief blokes
>>345196709
I'm just saying it seems coincidental that she happened to get it as well. Maybe it is coincidental, or maybe it's because of her relation to Corvo.
>>345196798
I didn't play the DLC but I did the main game.
>>345191772
You have to produce electricity somehow though.
>mfw after the first playthrough, I decide to have fun by indiscriminately killing bad guys
>mfw treated like a nigger by all NPCs
>>345196939
>I didn't play the DLC but I did the main game.
No, you didn't play it at all. Unless you went a blindfolded and deaf run. Everything you asked about was explained at some point
>>345196936
Yeah, Arkane got a dusting of the dissolving greatness I hear.
Probably why the combat in Dark Messiah was so good.
The boot is a feature.
>>345197021
>mfw the kick button is back in Dishonored 2
>>345197047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnxgQMSsc8c
>>345196734
>They have nothing to do with dystopia which is a 20th century theme.
Don't try to talk about subjects you don't understand. Hell, a quick google could have saved you from looking like this much of a retard, but I guess the urge to talk out your arse was too strong for even perfunctory research.
I bet you don't even know that dickens was a socialist, do you?
>>345196981
>treated like a murderous psychopath for wantonly killing innocent guards
oh, no way, why would they do that
Why is there so many "-punk" genres. Some seem super niche. IMO I feel like, it at least in games, there's no 1:1 match of the punk they rip/derive from. Case in point being made with Dishonored as it takes the sort of the whole punk genre's core concept (Save for cyberpunk maybe) and that X is revolutionary and X get used for everything down to the X-powered bread basket/dildo warmer. Says it right in the name though. (DIESELpunk, STEAMpunk, ATOMpunk)
But Dishonored sort of show should the basic skeletal work and basick sub genred it self out with with WHALES. Though if I had to put two cents in I would call it pre-Dieselpunk. Mainly due to it being in the Great War (WWI) than generic Victorian era. Very industrialist too. Again this mean fuck all when the mcguffin goes by a different name.
>>345196992
The reason Emily got her powers in the sequel was explained in the original? Fuck off.
I'm asking if Emily got her powers coincidentally or whether Corvo, or her relationship with Crovo influenced that decision.
>>345196331
Infinite is an alright game only if know nothing about Shock games
>>345193908
The whale oil is used to produce electricity.
The electricity we use everyday is produced using other sources too, some of them chemical.
It's about the thing itself that powers the machine, not the fuel.
You're retarded.
>>345197047
I'm gonna pre-order if you can confirm this.
>>345197164
Go play the fucking game before whining like a baby
>>345197164
>The reason Emily got her powers in the sequel was explained in the original?
I hope that doesn't sound outlandish, friend.
>>345197164
She gets fucking ousted as the Empress and is on the run for her life when the Outsider offers his mark to her, (which you can refuse this time).
This isn't fucking complicated.
>>345197149
One of the dieselpuink games I can think of is Ring Of Red.
Pretty sure the -punk suffix involves high (timeframe context) tech - low life though, that seems more pure military.
>>345197128
>I bet you don't even know that dickens was a socialist
I specifically mentioned socialism in the post you failed to comprehend but I'm glad you googled dystopia.
>>345190715
Thief: The Dark Project and Thief 2: The Metal Age
Go play them fucking now, OP
>>345197168
its pretty bad for everyone.
>>345197169
but ACTUAL electricity in the game appears (iirc) only in the form of light gates
are diesel cars electrical?
then why would tall boys be electrical?
>>345197180
>kick button matters when your can kill 5 enemies in 4 seconds
C'mon man.
>>345197169
Not in Dishonored world, stupid. Everything is whale oil.
>>345197365
You could kill 5 enemies by kicking one of them off a cliff or something
>>345197315
Avoided playing it during the big hype, played it recently.
Not good. It stumbles over the narrative it's so proud of and sacrifices immersion and playability for it.
Levine is a bit of a hack. He rehashed the majority of the System Shock 2 story and character arcs, hell, even most of the weapon and upgrade balancing for the first Bioshock, dude does not deserve the accolades he basks in now.
>>345197180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqdy1SydhLw
Check about 5:40
It's amazing how shitty that gameplay demo is though. So compressed and obviously played with a controller.
>>345197228
Did you read my posts? I didn't play the DLC if that's what you're thinking of. Learn to read, because this >>345197268 sure as shit didn't happen in the vanilla.
>>345197479
Why are multiplat demos always shown off using a controller. That rigid camera movement is fucking disgusting
>>345197514
Hes talking about the 2nd game you dense fuck.
>>345197543
Its what the majority of normies use, even on fucking PC.
>>345197543
Because the majority of people who will buy it are consolefags
>>345197543
Mmmhmm.
>>345197149
-Punk implies you have sci-fi levels of technology while keeping a modernist sensibility; juxtaposing advancements in tech against failure of society to move forward (and in many cases regress).
>>345197305
>I specifically mentioned socialism in the post you failed to comprehend
I didn't bother reading your post past that first line, since you made it obvious that you're full of shit with one sentence. The rest of your post only hammers home how hilariously ignorant you are. Dickens wasn't a proto-socialist, socialism was already a popular philosophy by the time Dickens started righting.
But then I'm sure you think that socialism started with marxism like the typical libertardian/an-cap retard that used to infest /pol/.
GG no RE
>>345197479
>posting that sub-30 fps garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkGdaWOxctc
>>345197479
It's a lot better to see something real than small, over-hyped demos that don't look like the game will and
will obviously be downgraded in coming months.
>>345197554
Is the story for 2 leaked or something?
You said the explanation for Emily's powers were in the vanilla game mate. Would you care to explain where then?
>>345197704
>Is the story for 2 leaked or something?
WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD
>>345197704
Emily said the Outsider spoke to her in dreams.
>>345197670
Socialism isn't a philosophy, it's a system of governing.
>>345197275
I will check it out--seem that is the many scarcer punks. Would Wolfenstein--more so New Order be in that genre too tho?
>dystopian--kind of
>post WW2
>wunderwaffe excess and evolution of WW2 tech/culture
Not videogames but Jin-Roh def is dieselpunk
>>345197723
I haven't seen anything outside of the E3 stuff for 2
>>345197778
That doesn't explain why at all
>>345197861
Yeah, Jin-Roh fits, WW2 tech with the huge social clusterfuck.
Ring Of Red is pretty underrated, I enjoyed it a lot. Pretty unforgiving though, make sure you have at least 2 memory cards or just emulate it.
>>345197893
Go kill yourself, for the betterment of the world
>>345197629
Thanks for the clarification brudda
>>345197832
>This is what uneducated people believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopian_socialism
>>345197861
New Order goes a bit fantasy with the magical Joo-tech, but would say it fits well enough.
>>345197893
>That doesn't explain why at all
OK, now you are either being intentionally obtuse or you have not played the fucking game.
The Outsider only speaks directly to those he deems worthy of his mark, since he's not going to give it to a little girl, he waits until the events that happen in 2 (he can see the future) to give it to her.
Do not fucking respond again.
>>345197893
Dude the Outsider doesn't give a flying fuck about logic
He just wants to sit on the sofa eating popcorns and watch people do stuff with the powers he (it?) gave them.
>>345197629
Well put, clarifies the high-tech, low-life oversimplification.
>>345195693
What steampunk material did he pen?
>>345197832
No, it's an economy structure.
>>345197995
Notice the prefix. Then read up on concept of utopia and themes developed from it. I'm trying to help you here. There is nothing philosophical about socialism, it doesn't examine itself, it's just a set of predefined triggers for social functioning, no less, no more.
I specifically mentioned humanism because Dickens and Hugo were artists, not politicians.
>>345198068
The Difference Engine
>>345198071
Which is a system of governance as well. Do you know what "structure" means?
>>345198068
>What steampunk material did he pen?
Nothing, the guy you're responding to is stupid. Gibson isn't even technically the originator of cyberpunk, he's just acknowledged as such because he popularized it.
>>345198178
>The Difference Engine is an alternative history novel by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling. It is widely regarded as a book that helped establish the genre conventions of steampunk.
2 seconds in teh Google.
>>345196615
He's a trickster God, he don't have to explain shit.
>>345197963
Hope I get to playing it soon. Always trying to expand the pallet.
Im still question what bioshock is though. Can kinda see this sort of idea pop up, but nothing sticks. I think it may differ too much or at least follows more and art movement than a tech one.
>>345198041
>>345198027
The two of you are conflicting. Does he give it to people who he sees worthy or does he give it to people no for real reason at all?
I always thought it was random factor, which led me to believe it was highly coincidental that Emily should also have the power. Which is why a relation to Corvo would explain her powers outside of his usual randomness in gift giving.
>>345198174
Socialism has nothing to do with who makes the laws and how those people are chosen.
>>345191772
You do realize electricity is produced by steam even today right?
Take nuclear power plants: the radioactive materials are used to boil water, which produces steam. That steam then rises and makes turbines rotate, which in turn produces electricity.
>>345198131
>that book is singularly brilliant, well worth it's weight in tin to a cove like myself
>>345198371
Objectivistic apocalypto-dystopian?
Fuck knows, it gets to a point where you're just trowing big words at a screen and seeing what sticks.
>>345198473
WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME
>>345198524
>>345198410
he gives powers to people that "deserve it" in the sense that he gives them to people that he knows will do interesting things with them
>>345198524
Goddammit Jeeves, the infernal tune shan't cease playing in my head!
>>345190715
Not really, no.
Bioshock Infinite isn't completely terrible, but it's bad. It's worth a playthrough if you can get it for super cheap or mooch it from a friend or something.
>>345198124
Cool speech, but the context of the conversation is that socialist philosophy existed well before Dicken's time, ergo his works are not proton-socialist but socialist.
Furthermore, the prefix does not mean what you think it means. Prior to Marx's works there were a variety of socialist philosophies, most of which put special emphasis on ethics and spirituality, as well as social structure. The sort of materialist, analytical interpretation of socialism you're describing is Marxism, which came into recognition well after Dickens wrote the majority of his works.
Your highschool understanding of philosophy and history makes this pretty pointless, desu senpai.
>>345198832
Not that guy, but is the Red Star comic Commie-punk?
>>345197692
Is that samuel?
>>345193976
Literally didn't say that.
But what he did say was bullshit also.
>>345198881
Never read it, but if stone punk and bio punk can be a things, I'm sure you can have commie punk too.
>>345194146
Man the concept art for Ebin Mouseman looked pretty cool. But concept art usually does, the end result usually doesn't.
>>345198832
Calling Dickens socialist is like calling Plato fascist.
>>345198915
where
>>345199038
Surprised there's no Punkpunk yet, subverting the subversion.
>>345199056
Plato was Authoritarian though, he despised Democracy.
>>345199129
Counter-counter-culture? How would that work?
>>345198915
I think that might be Anton Sokolov.
>>345198502
Yeah. Until someone chimes in on it with some dope ass -punk knowledge.
Find it funn that Howard Hughes inspired both Mr. House and Andrew Ryan yet the worlds and settings they live wildly differ from NV post-apoc Atompunk to whatever the fuck Bioshock is. Still both feel very true to what Hughes was from diff. pov. House being a controlling eccentric with some rather tongue cheek jokes about his faults to Ryan who idealistic anti-government control who's inventive eccentric personality became his tragedy
Hughes is still fucking hilarious--read a wiki bout him. He is basic autist who loves planes and hates touching germs
>>345198556
So his judge of worthiness is random depending on the person's future (obviously he can see, but others can't), it's not a particular character trait.
So Emily's gift of the mark is coincidental (at the moment, it could be explained later).
We got there in the end, but thanks to assholes on the internet it took about 2 hours longer than it needed to be.
>>345199154
My point is that the concept of socialism as it is today was not developed back when Dickens was around. Same as Steampunk would be nonsensical to Victorian age dwellers.
>>345198456
What are you trying to say? That we live in a steampunk world?
>>345199160
Would take a far greater mind than mine to figure that, bonhomie.
>>345199179
Hughes is a great example of min-maxing gone wrong.
>>345199236
No, I'm saying that claiming something isn't steampunk because it makes use of electricity is silly.
>>345199229
>My point is that the concept of socialism as it is today was not developed back when Dickens was around.
Socialism was a prominent philosophy and political movement during Dicken's lifetime, though.
>>345199062
https://youtu.be/QkGdaWOxctc?t=6m28s as >>345199167 said it actually does look like sokolov but samuel's thing was boats so.
>>345199383
It was a work in progress. This whole discussion started because I tried to explain to anon that Dickens had nothing to do with dystopia.
>>345199598
Wait, you're still here? Fuck off dickhead.
>It was a work in progress.
Read a book.
>>345197692
At the end of the trailer when emily falls is that the outsider or corvo that catches her?
Steampunk is fucking garbage and I wouldn't even qualify Dishonored or Bioshock as Steampunk.
>>345199956
Yes.
>>345200026
Same
