What games allow me to play the worlds best fighter jet?And claim your planefu
>>345186873
Battlefield 4
>>345186873
Doesn't the F-22 still exist though?
>F-35
>world's best fighter jet
Nice meme
Commence the shitposting
Everyone knows that space fighter jets make the BEST planefus.
>>345186873
Ace Combat thread?
>>345187097
Arguably the F-35 has among the best electronic systems out of any plane, including the F-22. Which is why there is talks to upgrade F-22s with technology comparable to the innards of F-35s. But sans stealth practically any other Gen 4 fighter as an actual plane, it's among the worst.
>>345189629
It's literally better than most gen 4s what are you talking about, maybe not a typhoon or F-22, but F-16 or F-18, for sure.
>>345189629
>As an actual plane
Anon, its flight characteristics favorably compare to those of the F-16A and Legacy Hornet.
What games let me fly F-4 Phantoms?
>>345189992
Battlefield Vietnam, pretty much every Ace Combat, probably DCS either now or at some point in the future.
>>345186873
f-35 simulator is still in early access. not a bad game but it crashes too much because oxygen.exe doesn't work. it's also incredibly overpriced.
>>345189992Ace combat Assault Horizon
>>345187097
F-22 was a lemon.
>>345186873
X-02 wyvern is aerodynamic! AERODYNAMIC!
>>345189992
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat
http://www.myabandonware.com/game/chuck-yeagers-air-combat-1xu
Claiming the best dogfighter ;^)
>>345189992
>the shockwave at 0:30 that seemingly turns the surrounding ground into smoking ash.
>>345190537
it's like an alien trying to look at you, but it forgot its glasses at home
>>345190483
Nice
<< Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to Avalon Dam tomorrow. >>
>>345190537
l-lewd..
>>345190675
What if I'm going there tomeet a buddy?
>>345190572
>tfw a squadron of Eurofighters and a Hercules flew overhead of me at low altitude and low speed last summer
EUROFIGHTER-CHAN SO KAWAII
>>345190841
>>345190926
>>345190926
Shit that's some balls on that pilot.
My god.
>>345190973
>>345190926
just watching this makes my stomach turn like being on a rollercoaster
>>345190973
daymmm
>>345190841
Typhoon's intakes are too ugly. Rafales look much better.
>tfw you will never dump and burn in a F-111.
>>345191349
Thanks for reminding me I still have to take screenshots of the Rafale.
Here, planefu claimed.
>>345190101
DCS doesn't have the F-4 flyable but it's one of the most requested planes among the community. Seems reasonable that one of the third party devs will get around to it eventually.
It'll still take 2-3 years to get into the sim after it's announced, so it won't be anytime soon
In the meantime, the F-5E comes out in 2 weeks
>>345191349
I wish the French would stop leaving their fuel probes sticking out on their planes.
If only we could simulate sitting down in a chair for 20 hours staring at computer screens, whilst sitting down in a chair for 20 hours staring at computer screens.
>>345191496
>In the meantime, the F-5E comes out in 2 weeks
Neat
>>345191416
Is that that stupid fictional plane from Assault Horizon? Because if it is it's stupid. Nearly every fictional AC plane is stupid looking.
![080904-F-1234S-001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yAHX4Du.jpg "080904-F-1234S-001[1].jpg")
Sexiest planefu
>>345191551
I fly the Mirage in DCS and it's nice being able to see the fucker and visually line it up when going in for in-flight refuelling.
It's ugly but really practical (I don't think it looks that bad myself though)
>>345191693
We should have bought this fucker.
Congress goofed.
>>345191619
Yeah it is.
I really liked the design of the Morgan and the Wyvern though.
>>345191619yes
>>345191767
I'm not so sure, I love the Black Widow 2, but the F22's airframe looks superior.
>>345191767
Raptor carries 6 AIM-120s. YF-23 only carries 4. 6 is a lot better than 4.
>>345191886
Aesthetics be damned, the point is to not be seen!
>>345192009
Only six?
Jesus, you can fit more than that on a mudhen. Or F-18.
>>345192142
Internally, obviously. Gotta keep that RCS low. And that drag, for that matter.
>>345192241
>keep DCS low
Isn't that sort of irrelevant nowadays?
Forgive me, I really only know about gen 3 and 4
>>345192406
RCS even, on mobile in bed and it decided to auto-correct
>>345192519
No it's still quite handy. Especially against people who aren't using top of the line radar.
![AIR_JAS-39_Gripen_Cutaway_lg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zXFAzKK.jpg "AIR_JAS-39_Gripen_Cutaway_lg[1].jpg")
GRIPEN för Sverige i tiden.
claimed
>>345192830
Based Gripen
>dat upgradable software package
>>345192848
Damn fine taste anon.
Have some thicc ass.
>>345192406
>>345192519
F-15Es had zero success dealing with the F-35 recently.
>>345192830
![cobra-helmet-gripen[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yKQ4xhc.jpg "cobra-helmet-gripen[1].jpg")
>>345192917
The cobra helmets are like something out of scifi.
>>345192406
No. As far from irrelevant as it gets. They don't even bother putting F-22s in training fights without massive handicaps anymore because realistic situations just mean they kill everything before they're detected. The Marines ran a scenario just recently where their F-35s did the same thing.
People talk about that Nighthawk shootdown like it proves stealth is bad, but shit, they flew thousands of sorties. Thousands of sorties and one loss when against people who got lucky since it had mechanical issues/knew where it was coming from so they could prepare/had to fuck with their radars in a way that made them useless for anytyhing else is pretty good.
>>345192993
>>345189992
![mig21_50godina_08[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XsUm2Dy.jpg "mig21_50godina_08[1].jpg")
I dont even give a fuck
>>345193025
And in any real situation where you have an even vaguely symmetrical conflict you can't take your shiny stealth aircraft anywhere near somewhere the enemy has ground presence because they can drop long wavelength radar, it's great in some places, but in a real combat situation it's not going to perform as well and the Russians will happily trade an S-300 for an F-22.
The serbs didn't have a top of the line radar in the NEVA (iirc) that detected the nighthawk, we're 20 years down the line from that, 20 years where America's biggest competitors have had the hull to analyse.
>>345193439
>>345193052
>when u want to buy typhoon but you don't have enough money type of airplane.
>>345193632
The gripen will probably outlast everything else right now.
It's far more upgradable.
>>345193413
You say that like long wavelength radar isn't limited as fuck. But shit, even if what you say is true, stealth is still a huge advantage since it means you automatically win fights anywhere there don't happen to be magic radars. That's still worthwhile.
Also, yeah, they've had time to check out that Nighthawk. Too bad the US doesn't even use Nighthawks anymore. Nighthawks are old news. Which is kinda sad, since they're cool, but still.
TOP GUN on NES
What is the bestest most funnest flight simulator out right now?
What games allow me to play the worlds best CAS plane?
>>345193760
The basis of the technology and the principals are still going to be similar, not the same, but similar.
And you act like it's not deployable and very advanced. The modern stealth aircraft are funnily enough great at what we want to do right now, fight limited wars against people who aren't capable of fielding high end equipment. The F-22 is too expensive to face the attrition rates predicted for a "real" war. (at least in my opinion)
>>345194017
Being deployable/advanced doesn't mean shit if it's not precise enough to actually guide weapons. Knowing someone is there is better than not knowing, sure, but it still doesn't mean you can actually fight back. There's a reason radars don't typically use those weirdo wavelengths.
And hey, like I said, even if those radars are magic and can do anything, so what? Stealth is still really good everywhere they're not, and they can't be everywhere.
>>345194307
Which is what I said. They're great for what we want to do right now, which is shoot brown people while they can't shoot back.
I don't believe it would translate into symmetrical warfare well.
>>345190537
>3D thrust vectoring
>Just fuck my RCS up
Still very cool, though.
>>345187097
it is.
Only reason F-35 exists is because someone though it would be good idea, to take state-of-the-art tech from F-22, and jam it into one do-everything plane that could replace F-14, F-16, F-18 and A-10.
In other words they put their goal so high, it's bound to be engineering nightmare and suck budget for years, before they will finally give up and replace it with "new", but actually working as intended, design
>>345195338
>take state-of-the-art tech from F-22
Anon, the F-22 was out of date the day it first flew. That is the nature of military aviation. They're actually looking for ways to refit the F-22 with the new computer and sensor packages from the F-35, since a key part of the plane's design has been making an airframe that isn't a decade behind the curve at all times.
>>345195338
>plane that could replace F-14, F-16, F-18 and A-10.
F-14s don't even exist outside Iran, and the A-10 doesn't do anything important.
F-16 and FA-18 basically do the same thing, just one is Air Force and one is Navy. It's not hard to make a plane that can do the same things that F-16 and FA-18 can do. It's not like technology has gotten any worse.
>>345195904
F-14 were removed from service, because they were to be replaced by F-35. For some reason MoD did not expect, very expected delay
>>345196524
Tomcats were replaced by Super Hornets. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>345196605
F-18 not as much replaced F-14, as they are filling Cat's role, waiting for actual replacement.
Holy shit, /v/ is again invaded by retarded /k/ rejects who have no fucking clue what they're talking about.
Daily reminder, that:
>Murican BVR missile tech is dogshit and is one of the worst in the world, since Muricans still use shitty, utterly outdated single pulse rocket motors for their AIM-120D BVR missiles
>The kill probability of Murican BVR missile AIM120C missiles, that use the same tech as the D variant, which only significant improvements are extremely ambiguous "fuel consumption improvements" that somehow managed to boost its range by 50% on paper (simply KEK), is no more than 50% against NON-MANEUVERING TARGETS WITH NO AWARENESS OF INCOMING MISSILES AND O ECM CAPABILITIES
>Meanwhile Russians have the most advanced BVR misssile in the world (with Yurop being close second), that can be carried by Su-35 - the RVV-BD missile with an effective range of over 200kms and its more advanced variants, that are being developed, and uses a dual pulse rocket motor, that drastically boosts the no escape zone and Pk values across all ranges
>stealth that allows for firing shit at enemy fighters from a safe distance is a meme, since the Murican BVR missile tech is ultimate dogshit and won't be able to hit anything in environments, when the targets are not rusted Yugoslavian MiGs with no radars or missile warning systems, but actual 4th gen fighters like Su-35S, with a full avionics suite that includes literally the most powerful radar with the longest range mounted on a fighter jet to date, great maneuverability, IRST for detecting incoming missiles at much higher ranges than usual
>the "first-shot advantage" is a meme, since the probability of Muricans hitting anything with their shitty BVR missiles at ranges, where they would not be detected by the Irbis radar, is close to zero
>>345197131
>the F-35 doesn't need maneuverability, since it will never get into WVR combat is a meme, since can't hit shit at long range
>while the statement that F-35 is poorly maneuverable is also a meme, it will not be able to do shit against a supermaneuverable fighter like the Su-35S, that can point its nose at a F-35 on its six literally in seconds with minimal loss of altitude and speed
>the "we don't need maneuverability, since we have the AIM-9X" argument is a meme, since even though AIM-9X missiles have really good off-bore firing angles, the stories about its capability to hit targets within 360 degrees of the carrier are nothing but retarded wishful thinking, unsupported by neither hard proofs, nor even any kind of official statements
>the "high off-bore launch angle is better than supermaneuverability" argument is a meme, since, first of all, no missile has a Pk equal to 1 and the more missile needs to turn to hit its target (i.e. the higher the off-bore firing angle), the more energy it loses, which drastically reduces its Pk; IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO FIRE THE MISSILE AS STRAIGHT UP YOUR OPPONENTS ASS AS POSSIBLE, because you maximize your Pk this way, and the F-35 would shit itself trying to outmaneuver a Su-35S
>>345189629
it's rcs is like 0.01m squared
>>345186873
planes are for pepsi drinkers and homosexuals
flying spaceships is a truly noble calling, however
>>345197131
>>345197497
Oh god its that commie tech circle jerk guy.
I recognize that rant style.
Don't bring up the PAK FA being a turd around him, or he will go ballistic.
>>345197131
>AIM120C
Meme post
>>345197131
>>The kill probability of Murican BVR missile AIM120C missiles, that use the same tech as the D variant, which only significant improvements are extremely ambiguous "fuel consumption improvements" that somehow managed to boost its range by 50% on paper (simply KEK), is no more than 50% against NON-MANEUVERING TARGETS WITH NO AWARENESS OF INCOMING MISSILES AND O ECM CAPABILITIES
Motor is the same.
Range improvements on the D model are due to lofting profile.
>>345198213
>Range improvements on the D model are due to lofting profile.
By 50%? Kek, if it was that easy, everybody would have already done those improvements. I'll tell you the secret behind Murican "range improvements", listen up closely.
You see, all missile maximum range calculations are made against a certain, no standardized targets, that is moving at a certain altitude, speed and direction. You know what's the real reason AIM-120D got that drastic range increase? No, it's not because Muricans somehow developed some magical fuel that allowed the missile to have drastically more energy and not due to the "lofting profile" that somehow made it fly 50% further. It's because the Raytheons marketing department just decreased the target altitude, increased its speed and made it fly literally head on in relation to the AIM-120D missile carrier. BINGO! Now we have a 50% maximum range increase without breaking any kind of laws or contracts!
Meanwhile, the dumb commies came up with an actually functioning dual pulse motor, made the missile bigger and crammed as much fuel into it along with some minor aerodynamics and missile control improvements and even then they got much lower maximum range improvements. These guys really need a lesson in marketing.
>>345198615
>a certain, no standardized targets
a certain, non-standardized target
>>345193247
hahaha what the fuck is this
>2016
>still using pilots
any new AC07 info or are we all still waiting for tgs?
>>345198615
Also, the hilarious thing is that Muricans NEVER EVER even mention that their maximum range calculations are carried out against an actually maneuvering target. They never give you any info about target altitude, speed or the expected target maneuvering overloads, that the missile can overcome and still hit the target. This literally proves that Muricans test their shitty BVR missiles againt non-maneuvering targets, while the Russian RVV-BD is specifically stated to be capable of hitting targets maneuvering with an overload of 8g (nobody pulls 9g or higher overload maneuver for any significant amount of time) at 200km.
Murican missile tech is so pathetic it's a fucking comedy goldmine at this point.
>>345199217
Drones are usable only against sandniggers at best and even those are capable of hacking them from time to time. Any sort of functional military that has any amount of EW capability will make your drones into extremely situational, extremely expensive, single use flying cameras.
>>345199779
>implying AI won't outfly ace pilots within 10 years
>can do maneuvers that would kill a human
>can work 24/7
>>345199217
Drones right now are pretty limited and isn't responsive enough. Fighter pilots are still GOAT. Hopefully we will have Cylons by the end of the century.
>>345192931
Assault horizon may have DFM, but damn is the engine nice as hell. I wish I could play ace combat 6 and want to see what 7 looks like, I think the graphics will be really good.
>>345199858
Drones don't need to maneuver and the problem is not that they can't outfly pilots (which they can't do right now). The problem is that any sort of link between a drone and its oeprator can be jammed and the drone would have to be truly autonomous with a fully functioning AI capable of target recognition and independent decision making to be truly survivable. Moreover, the drone would have to use an inertial navigation system ONLY as any sort of weak-ass radar you can mount on a drone would get jammed with even greater ease than the link between a drone and its operator, since there are already mobile EW systems capable of jamming fighter jet radars at 300km.
>>345200118
The bigger issue is the idea of handing a piece of software the ability to make calls that we still don't really trust humans to make with regards to the lives of others. I don't see politicians ever being comfortable with the idea of computers killing people and I would expect some military resistance as well.
>>345193772
DO YOU EVEN READ MY CHRISTMAS LIST?!?
>>345190973
breh
>>345199858
already happening
>>345197131
You're fucking delusional lmao
Why is the F-4 always used for training? Is it very easy to pilot or something?
>>345199428
American weapons must be really shitty. That's why we've been knocking Russian planes out of the air for the better part of the last three decades. You're so mad right now
>>345193772
Undoubtedly the coolest motherfucker to ever graze the skies. Runs so high and so fast the plane fucking shrinks a bit.
Why does every modern military equipment looks like shit?
I'm sure it's very efficient but come on, it looks awful
>>345200850
Implement this in Ace Combat 7 NOW
>>345201369
What? The Berkut and that warship look cool.
>>345200850
>tfw the last human pilot has already been born
Kinda cool and sad at the same time
>>345199428
>Slavaboos
Oh man, what a cool guy. He posted a laughing dog and compared planes in service to airshow testbed planes that haven't a chance in hell of being produced.
What a cool guy. Russia must really be on the up and up, what with injecting crokodil into their testicles.
>>345201293
>That's why we've been knocking Russian planes out of the air for the better part of the last three decades.
Remember what happened last time Murica fought against Russian aircraft of the same generation, instead of knocking down rusted MiGs with no operational radars?
>Among fixed-wing aircraft, more F-4 Phantoms were lost than any other type in service with any nation. In total, the United States lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft and helicopters
>South Vietnam's army lost 2,500 aircraft and helicopters, excluding number of UAVs. North Vietnam lost 150 - 200 aircraft and helicopters.
>>345201485
>berkut
>cool
Maybe if you're an edgy teenager
That inverted wing setup looks retarted as fuck
>>345201369
BRING BACK THE WHITE FLEET
WHERE IS MY PRE-WW1 NAVAL GAME
>>345201686
>Su-35S
>airshow testbed plane
48 have already been built and are in service at this very moment with more on the way. Shows how much Murican posters really know about the topics they try to rant on.
T H I C C
>>345201930
>Posts an SU-47
>Changes argument to SU-35
yeah alright.
Hey, you forgot your laughing dog picture, so it looks like you're being condescending rather than speaking out of pure unbridled rage due to a crippling inferiority complex.
I mean, the topic of this thread is america vs russia after all. If someone came in and just started shittalking other countries completely unwarranted, well that would be just pathetic. Imagine making literally every situation about your self declared rival. That's some serious bad-anime shit right there.
But you're different. You're obviously the smarted person in the room. That's why you have to rattle off shit you copy and pasted off of wiskytangofoxtrot.
>>345201742
>he doesnt want supermaneuverable planes like macross
You tell that to the X-29
>>345199428
Look at this triggered slavshit. This guy and people like him have meltdowns all over the internet whenever fighter / missile tech is discussed.
Spoiler for you, commie faggot: Russians have been lying about the publicly-available capabilities of their weapon systems since forever.
Nobody seems to care about entering an arms race in this particular area with them, because they know they are lying. How do they know they are lying? Because they have their hands on the fucking hardware the Russians are fucking lying about.
Slavaboos are too busy choking on Stalin's rotting cock to realize that the foundation of every one of their arguments is almost always goddamn misinformation.
>>345202319
>Posts an SU-47
So you're not only retarded and fat, you're also illiterate as well? Su-47 never even existed as a fighter jet, it's literally a flying laboratory. The only non Murican plane I've mentioned in my posts was Su-35.
But it's okay, with every post like yours, containing nothing more than retarded opinions or just straight up senseless drivel, the MURRRRIKA FUUUUUCK YEEEAH circlejerkers look more and more pathetic, since they have no actual arguments to present or even the basic knowledge on the subject of the matter.
>>345202529
>if our tech is inferior dogshit, just tell the competitors are lying, lol
So the Yurocucks are lying as well? Because the Meteor beats the everliving shit out of any Murican BVR missiles by such a large margin, it's not even funny.
>>345202559
>even the basic knowledge on the subject of the matter
Says the guy unironically and rabidly regurgitating RF ministry of defense propaganda.
Maybe mudshits and chinks are dumb enough to buy it, but lets be realistic here. You know that in a conventional war that the Russian air force would be grounded after about 1 day. That's why you are triggered as fuck.
It's a shame you can't be civil, because I think Slavshit military hardware is pretty cool, even if it is shittier than advertised. That is precisely why they need sweaty little pimps like you to go onto the internet and try to whore it out.
Slavshits had their chance to show everyone how advanced their tech was, when they took their swipe at ISIS. Know what happened? They got shot down by retarded mudshits and turkroaches. Lol.
Nobody was impressed.
>>345201943
Beautiful
>>345202983
>They got shot down by retarded mudshits and turkroaches. Lol.
Only because they were the only one who actually dared to approach thef frontlines
>>345202559
no it's ok. You're super super smart. You're the smartest person in the room. You're so smart, you even get a momma's little smart man treat.
Feeling better now smarty marty? It's ok little buddy. just keep posting on-topic in this america vs russia thread. That's what the OP says. America vs russia. not claim your planefu.
>>345203149
W-WELL THEY DARED!
they dared to fly dickfirst into a missle.
>>345198615
>Meanwhile, the dumb commies came up with an actually functioning dual pulse motor, made the missile bigger and crammed as much fuel into it along with some minor aerodynamics and missile control improvements and even then they got much lower maximum range improvements. These guys really need a lesson in marketing.
Just like they came up with plasma stealth! The Russian MoD exaggerates everything like usual, vatnik. Why don't you link Janes for all of your arguments?
>>345203284
>>345202706
What's the matter? Don't have anything else to say? Did rt.com go down again?
>>345203242
Nice argument, where was your shitty country military when Russia was facing the missiles?
>>345205747
Watching yours crash and burn on the internet
>>345201478
Yeah and 99.9% of the population of earth won't be able to finish the damn game.
>Its a "/v/ acts like it knows things about aircraft" episode
