should Miyamoto retire?
>>345027272
Yes, he hasn't made a good game since Pikmin
https://youtu.be/xL83Ko0vYrw?t=809
>"Donkey Kong Country proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good.”
yes
>literally went back on this comment years later after nobody bought the MvDK/Paon DK spinoffs
Iwata should as well
>>345027482
Was this supposed to be funny? Worst joke of 2016 award and I'm not even on no too soon bullshit shit was terrible bruh like you really typed that and pressed send probably chuckled at it too
>>345027872
t. Earthbound fan from starmen.net
>>345027272
Nah.
I don't really know where the "Miyamoto is senile" thing came from, and even though it can be funny at times, if we're to be serious for a moment though I'd say it's a stretch. Starfox 0 received mixed reception, but what of other games he helped with? (don't know his exact involvement with any of these, though, including SF0) The Pikmin series, Nintendoland, SMM (and mario in general), heck even SFGuard is really great.
That said, I highly doubt he has much an impact on games he isn't literally directing himself, he's probably more a consultant for the developers to turn to.
After what he did to Paper Mario, yes
>>345028374
That was Tanabe
>>345028374
wrong dev
Yes, he cucked up Star Fox Zero with shitty motion control gimmicks and bad graphics.
>>345028525
it's like love...
it's like romance...
>>345027272
fire the guy who killed paper mario as well
>>345028614
Do we actually know that was him or is it just assumed?
I think I remember seeing him speaking favorably over the motion control and dual-screen gimmick, but that doesn't equate to him being the one to push it.
>>345027272
Japs dont retire, they just die off
>>345028697
this please
Tanabe is just stupid ideas guy and producer who also just another rat of Nintendo SPD under Sakamoto, Takahashi, and Miyamoto's rule.
he's not the sole reason Metroid Prime came to be either, he only co-produce the first one with Retro doing the magic impressing Sakamoto.
also,SMB2 and Brawl sucked
>>345029121
Explain
>>345028525
Sticker Star had more minor characters than that.
>>345030386
From what I can remember, Japanese businesses differ greatly from American businesses. If you join up with a japanese company, you're pretty much stuck with that company for life. You can't just up and quit and go to a different business like you can here. Something to do with their culture or honor or whatever the fuck. That's why you've never seen someone from say Capcom leave to go work for Nintendo.
>>345030386
Not him, but it's very rare a jap retires or leaves from their job. When they do, it usually leads to what made Mighty No. 9
>>345028229
No Miyamoto has an important role where he evaluates the concepts and gives the OK. He managed the Nintendo Garage greenlighted Splatoon and Project Guard. In addition he also did this for Captain's Toad Treasure Tracker and Link Between Worlds.
Probably two of his important contributions was that he pressured the Splatoon devs when they couldn't come up with a good character to come up with the Inklings. He also rejected Link Between World's original gimmick(writing on walls) because it it was a 20 year old idea in his opinion.
>>345027272
Yeah, man should stay as the guy who cracks the whip but he should not be allowed to make major decisions.
Hell, he might be the guy who pushed for the wiiu.
And, let's all be honest. Gunpei Yokoi was behind everything that made super mario brothers special.
>>345028940
>Do we actually know that was him or is it just assumed?
all Miyamoto
there's also an investor meeting tidbit of iwata saying it's his job to make gamepad worthy on the games he's developing on the WiiU.
>>345031254
Too bad Yokoi wasn't the brain for Land 2. Or any of the Wario Land games. That was Takehiko Hosokawa.
WHOOPS, HE CO-DIRECTED OTHER M.
>>345031517
B-but Wario Land is a time-honored classic ;_;_;_;_;
>>345027272
Is he actually, literally the one that suggested the GamePad in it's current form for the Wii U? People say this all the time but I never saw proof or a source. Did he really make the gamepad?
>>345030778
It probably isn't on there since the Snifit lacks a name. Regardless the list would be:
Plain Toads
Birdo
Luigi (who doesn't even talk I believe)
Snifit or Whiffit Host
Wiggler
Enigmansion Toad
Oasis Toad
Basically a ridiculously small list.
>>345031254
>Gunpei Yokoi was behind everything that made super mario brothers special.
Then why was Super Mario 64 so good then?
>>345031146
>Nintendo Garage
holy shit, i've forgotten about this.
he mention this on the EDGE interview with Splatoon. this is where they got the newblood to handle new games like Splatoon.
>>345031478
I don't think there's anything wrong with the gamepad, they're just clearly not sure how to make use of it. Nintendoland used it pretty well, but for some reason most of the minigames in there never turned into full games (a metroid game that played like the Nintendoland minigame for example could've been brilliant).
>>345031878
Game and Wario used it fantastically, but really should have been the pack in, not Nintendo Land.
>>345031878
I think the issue is they were hoping Nintendoland would be the WiiU's Wii Sports while simultaneously lifting the smaller brands featured like Metroid and F-Zero.
So when it only did quite decently and the WiiU hardware stalled they probably were like "oh fuck" and realised pretty much anything but their most valuable brands would probably just lose them money on WiiU unless they could convince people of the Gamepad's value.
>>345031146
>Nearly compromised Splatoon because he personally hated it
>Responsible for the mess that was WiiMusic
>On top of that one person at IS, he ruined Paper Mario
>Responsible for the WiiUs gamepad gimmick, which he desperately tries to justify when Aonuma, Sakurai, and one of the Mario Bros developers despise it
>Singlehandedly ruined Star Fox Zero due to said gimmick, would've still been shit anyway if the controls were normal given his design of the game was catered to casuals so it could be completed in short segments, but ironically they hated it anyway
>Add that his "famous" quote on a delayed game means it'll be a good one lost all meaning as Zero ended up being one of the worst games in the entire series, somehow being much worse than Command, the one legit title that nobody likes to talk about
>Not that Mario should really should have a deep plot outside of Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi, he did get butthurt over Peach not being the main girl in Mario Galaxy. One of the devs had to sneak in Rosalinas backstory, which got fucked over in the sequel and so on
>Got severely butthurt at Donkey Kong Country for being popular, which hilariously kicked him in the face as the games Paon made were complete shit
>Is probably butthurt that Aonuma got control for Zelda as from how BoTW is looking, there's no gimmicks of any sort. Rumor is this is why Star Fox Zero ended up being shit because he had no means of forcing his gimmicky shit on anything else
>Plans on making F-Zero, which is already speculated to be shit
>>345032175
I haven't played G&W, I never see it recommended on /v/. How is it?
>>345031792
Sounds cool but man it will be fustrating if they get stuck on one aspect of their concepts and never move forward in progress. The inkling shit was transpire from miyamoto pressure to bring out faster or they will use Mario characters
>>345032353
Gamer and the ashley minigame are the only good things of G&Wah
>>345032353
Last I heard, it's pretty weak
>>345032308
>Sources: my ass
Seriously at least try to make this shit believable.
>>345032353
It is literally the WiiU Tech Demos, but Wario skinned. However, you still get really good games like Gamer, Taxi, Kat and Ana's game, and the fucking pictionary ripoff.
>>345032454
A number of the mini-games are pretty threadbare but a handful of them are really good concepts of the use of Gamepad.
Shutter shows how Pokemon Snap could have been done on WiiU.
>mfw he demanded for there to not be any original characters in the new Paper Mario game
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
>>345032802
That was tanabe, I don't know why people say this was Miyamoto.
>>345032802
He said "Don't make any new characters, just use existing ones" Tanabe went OH SHIT, TOADS, despite the fact Miyamoto has said he dislikes Toad.
Also, Miyamoto was in the right, because
1. Super Paper Mario's OCs were all fucking horrible and annoying.
2. THERE ARE SO MANY ENEMIES AND CHARACTERS THEY COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF.
>>345032802
>mfw he demanded for there to not be any original characters in the new Paper Mario game
He had every right to demand that. Intelligent Systems was systematically replacing the excellent Mario series designs with junk like this.
>>345031059
>>345030950
Lies.
>inafune
>kamiya
>Kojima
>the dude who made the evil within
>>345032175
>>345032454
reminder that both Sakamoto and Kensuke Tanabe handled Game & Wario
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Game_%26_Wario/credits
>Yoshio Sakamoto (Producer; Game Design)
>Kensuke Tanabe (Directing Support; Game Design)
>>345033165
Yes. Sakamoto has always been the producer for Wario Ware. And Rhythm Heaven. And Tomodachi Life.
>>345027272
Yes. they need new blood in there. The old way of making games frustrating without saving, turn based rpgs, and just frustrating outdated games like starfox zero just don't work anymore. We want games like Pokemon GO, with experiences that are social with game elements.
>>345027464
You know that 'Miyamoto hated DKC' was a rumor started by TwoBestFriends, right?
>>345033153
>Inafune
Mighty No. 9 Flopping
>Kamiya
What's his next big hit? Scalebound?
>Kojima
Konami
>>345033525
You should read the post I responded to.
Also should've mentioned IGA as well.
>>345027272
No because Pokemon Go was his idea.
>>345033486
I remember reading it existed before that, suggesting Miyamoto supposedly begruded Donkey Kong Country because management had him change Yoshi's Island's art style.
Maybe...
I love the dude for what he's done in the past but nowadays Miyamoto just doesn't understand how games should be anymore, games can be made in a series without reinventing the wheel like how he's trying to go about with Fzero.
In some ways he can be a genius
in other ways he can hold back a project from reaching it's true potential just because it doesn't have a gimmick to go along with it.
>>345030386
they feel like it's their responsibility and usually won't quit until they're literally on their death bed
>>345033807
No. He was at the fucking Rare Ware HQ in London, partying it up with them, flipping tables for no fucking reason. He got mad cause Nintendo went 'Can you make the graphics of Yoshi's Island more like DKC'. THAT'S what pissed him off.
>>345033439
Dumb frogposter
>>345027272
No, he needs to go Full Iwata.
>>345033963
He's right though. Pokemon Go is HUGE and definitely surpassed any recent Nintendo games , even sony , xbox and PC games.
It's a good thing and gives Nintendo more money.
>>345033925
>Conker is demo'd for NoA and Miyamoto and Iwata.
>The Murrican's were like 'CAN WE REMOVE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE LEWD AND DISGUSTING!?"
>Miyamoto kept playing the peeing on the fire imp scene over and over.
>>345033816
I think you'd be even more out of touch to think a standard F-Zero would do that well other than as a very small indie game like Fast Racing Neo.
>>345027482
Yes, let's dig him up just to retire him again.
>>345033816
He only has that perspective with F-zero because the game sells like crap even when it's great
