Thinking of getting a gaming PC, can't afford to custom-build a rig. Does this pre-built look good?
iBUYPOWER WA550G Gaming Desktop PC with AMD FX-4300 Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive and Windows 10 Home
Processor Type: AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core Processor
Hard Drive Capacity: 1 TB
Processor Speed: 3.80 GHz
Contained Battery Type: Lithium Primary
Maximum RAM Supported: 32 GB
Connector Type: 3 x Aux Audio, 1 x DVI, 1 x Ethernet, 1 x HDMI, 1 x Headphone, 1 x PS/2, 5 x USB 2.0, 3 x USB 3.0, 1 x VGA
>>344942647
No.
>>344942647
no
you didn't list the GPU but it doesnt even matter
>>344942647
1) Can't tell, you didn't list the graphics card
2) Absolutely not
If you could afford to buy a prebuilt, then you could afford to build your own.
I'm a retard and I did it for $900, and that's counting the monitor, keyboard, and mouse. And its much better than that prebuilt shit without even a ssd.
>>344942647
First off
>Windows 10
What's the price and what you does it have
>>344943228
+$200 for Windows
>>344942647
Building it yourself is cheaper than buying prebuilt faget.
Also
>AMD processor
Just throw that shit in the trash now.
Intel is a bunch of market raping faggots, but AMD is really far behind as far as processors go.
>>344943347
$417, was 600, it's from Walmart. The GPU and graphics card aren't listed, but I can upgrade the card at least. I'm looking for the comp's model online to see what type of GPU it has.
>>344943560
nope nope nope nope nope nope
nope nope
>>344943459
How far behind? There's a computer at Walmart with an Intel 13 processor, is that the most current one?
>>344943362
You don't need to pay for Windows.
>>344943735
>How far behind? There's a computer at Walmart with an Intel 13 processor
You are too far beyond helping. There is no Intel 13
Its an i3, and you are irredeemably stupid. LURK MOAR and do some serious research before you drop some dosh on a useless prebuilt.
Best case, shoot up a budget, and some /v/irgin will slap together a competent build for you.
it's honestly not worth buying a PC with a budget that low OP unless you're just using it to play TF2 and League
>>344944123
gotta agree with this guy. do some more research instead of saying "this looks like a good price" ive made that mistake. youll have a computer that is worthless
>>344944123
Sorry I'm not techno-savvy, no need to get so upset because someone doesn't worship computers and knows them inside and out.
>i3
That was it. So that's the most current Intel processor?
>>344944338
I'm not going to be playing anything super-fancy, mainly Subnautica and WoW.
>peasant tries to master race
>master race just bullys him
My first computer was store bought, i upgraded its gpu and ram. It lasted me a good 3 years
My second computer was custom built from a computer store. I had no idea what was what, i just knew store bought wasnt really the way to go. I told them i wanted something for games and gave them a price and they threw stuff togeather. It also lasted 3 years
My third computer i was scared to build myself but i knew about stuff a little bit so i had that same shop build one to my specs. It lasted 4 years
My fourth computer i built myself after researching shit for months. It was really scary to put it togeather but everything went smoothly. It lasted 6(!) years.
My fifth and current computer i built after throwing togeather a pile of crap from newegg in a couple of hours. It works flawlessly. Ive had it a couple years now.
It takes time to become masterace.
>>344944529
>So that's the most current Intel processor?
Man do more research. you don't even know what you're asking.
>>344942647
If you can afford a pre-built, you can afford to build a PC, you retarded lazy piece of shit.
>>344944529
You dont even know what you want to hear. Processors range far and wide #of cores to clock speed to all sorts of shit.
Honestly. Shit out a dollar amount you want to spend and leave the rest to people who arent complete idiots.
>>344944529
>So that's the most current Intel processor?
Ill help.
There are i3s, i5s, and i7. They are entire product lines of processors, there are several of each type per generation and have been several generations now.
i3s are your economy ones, you will find them in lower end machines. i5s are what you want for gaming. i7s are better and you can game on them just fine but you honestly dont need them, there are far more processor demanding tasks than gaming. You would find i7s in dedicated video editing rigs, for example.
Processors have many different variables that you can somewhat summarize in an overall speed/performance, but different things have different demands. You might be better off using an older, crappier, i7 for certain tasks even though a newer i5 would be better for a lot of things, for example, because the i7 is just built differently.
Anyway, shoot for an i5. The full processor name will be i5 followed by some numbers. If the numbers end with a k that means its intended for overclocking. You can get a non k version if you want. Overclocking is not that hard these days but i dont bother with it anymore since the processor is not really as important as it used to be, and gpus (which people also overclock) already run hot enough for my taste, i prefer a quieter system. Ive actually underclocked things in the past to keep my fan speeds down.
>>344944702
Everyone shitting on him was shat on when they first got into master-racing. It's the time-honored tradition and why we're an angry group of people.
This is hilarious lol.
OP tell them you want a gaming laptop kek
Monitoring the thread to see where this goes.
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>>344942647
>desktop
>contained battery type
kek
>>344945352
shoot for an i5 unless you really want to play CPU bound games, planetside has made me regret not having an i7
>>344943362
$100 you fucking retard.
>>344942647
Don't do it, anon. Trust me, I went with iBuyPower for my 1st build AND YOU WILL REGRET IT. I spent $1600 on a shit pc with a gtx 970, a 4790k, no ssd and a noname psu. Had I built it myself I could've built a pc twice as powerful for the same price! NEVER AGAIN.
If you must have a prebuilt, at least do some research and go with someone like NCIX who won't charge you an are and a leg. Otherwise, here's some build guides to get you started:
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/
>>344945352
I understand now, thanks.
Since they're the main games I'm going to be using it for, what would be good for running Subnautica and WoW at high/max settings smoothly?
>>344944095
>pirating windows 10
lol
>>344945790
just get an i3 if that's all you're going to play
idk how the WoW requirements have evolved since the graphics overhaul but it ran at 60 frames on all high-ultra on my piece of shit laptop years ago, it's a really easy game to run.
>>344944095
...are you insane?
>>344945815
Yes...?
Here OP. Decide your budget and pick the parts from the tier that you can afford.
http://logicalincrements.com/
It even uses WoW as a benchmark.
>>344944702
you sound like an anxiety ridden straight up downie retard
>in highschool 14 years old
>build first PC
>get all the parts and jump right in because im not a total retard who gets 'scared' at silicon lego
>lasts 4 years when I decide to build a better one
> make a budget build that lasts me 5-6 years
>current PC is my best build yet just need a top tier gpu for it (currently 970) will last me a long time
>>344946063
I've got an AIO comp right now that can't reach 15fps with everything on lowest. I know, AIO, but it was an emergeny Aaron's rental after my laptop popped and fizzled. I just want a computer that can play them both well, and I don't know much about cards and processors and stuff.
>>344945352
for future reference "underclocking" is called throttling.
>>344945790
MMOs typically have lower requirements than other games (there have been exceptions)
I dont really know what subnauticas requirements are.
My instincts tell me you should still go for a lower end i5, but this is something you would need to research because when ever i build a machine i build it to last a very long time so i get higher end stuff (i typically wait for a generation shift and then buy up some of the best higher end parts from the previous generation).
Building a computer to play those games will be pretty cheap, its building a computer that will play the games you want to play years from now thats always iffy.
In my experience you can spend ~$1k-1.3k and have a machine that will last 5 years easily running the newest stuff with out any noticeable issues (you will have to turn the settings down some near the end), thats with my one monitor setup though.
A machine to run stuff today for cheap you can easily throw togeather for $500, probably even less if you shop around.
One benifit of waiting is you can get deals and wait for sales. My current case i got for 75% off for example. Id never normally spend more than $100 on a case, but i got a really fancy (and honestly kind of tacky, but its big and has good cable management) case for $50.
>>344946169
Just pirate windows 8.1 and get a free copy of legit windows 10 like I did faggot
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig
What? You can build that exact rig much cheaper. Building one is always cheaper.
>>344946697
I never heard that term prior to hardware that automatically did that to itself to conserve power
Back when you had to go into the bios and do it yourself by lowering fsb speed it was called underclocking, because you are lowering the system clock speed :^)
>>344942647
It's like asking "What restaurant should I go to? I can't afford to cook at home"
>>344947081
No you are throttling the system clock speed
>>344946829
These are the minimum requirements.
OS: Windows Vista SP2 or newer, 64-bit
Processor: Intel Haswell 2 cores / 4 threads @ 2.5Ghz or equivalent
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: Intel HD 4600 or equivalent
>>344947207
You should be looking at recommended
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows Vista SP2 or newer, 64-bit
Processor: Intel Haswell 4 cores / 4 threads @ 3.2Ghz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 550 ti or equivalent
Storage: 6 GB available space
>>344947159
Ok, and you are supercharging your processor then? Oh.. bit injecting :^)
The clock is just the clock, 'throttling' something makes it run under clock. Its underclocking.
>>344942647
Custom-building a rig is CHEAPER than buying a premade desktop when it comes to the price/performance ratio.
>>344947207
>>344947328
you should actually never look at any requirements because they are always full of optimism. You should read forums to see what the people who report no problems running it have.
>>344944529
Just give me your budget and I'll make you a decent custom
>>344947503
Jesus why are you so mad I just explained to you why he said it's called throttling. Maybe you're translating from another language? "underclocking" isn't really correct
>>344947776
Right now with my hours I'm averaging $190 a week. Groceries cut it down to 160.
>>344948081
30 bucks for food a week. You are doing well cooking your own food!
>>344947792
Its what it was called when i was first learning how to mess with clock speeds. I did this by reading overclocking forums, and i saw the term used when ever people were discussing it. This was in like 2004.
Obviously this whole 'throttling thing' is some modern corruption of the purer and noble language of the time.
>>344942647
Top bait mate
>>344948151
I just ration 4 pizzas
I have to re-iterate the call to really research what you're going to drop the dosh on OP. Go to http://logicalincrements.com/ , and this site: https://choosemypc.net/ also helped me when I was starting out and then youtube tech channelslinustechtips jayztwocentzand when you feel more confident had over to pcpartpicker and lay out something. Just research and lurk pc threads here and /g/
>>344948151
It helps working at a Dollar General Market.
>>344948182
not him, just going to clear up some confusion
underclocking is just that: setting the clock speed lower than default
throttling (usually) is what happens when too much heat causes a CPU/GPU to downclock, or slow down, automatically, to make sure the CPU/GPU isn't damaged. This is an automatic process that can sometimes be overridden by user-defined parameters.
>>344946118
>>344948350
>asking for computer help = bait
Being the master race doesn't mean we need to be thundering faggotrons when people ask for computer help. This may surprise you, but not everyone is as autistic as we are.
>>344948752
The bait is anyone believing for a second that a pre-built rig would be cheaper than a custom one of similar performance.
>>344949014
that's not bait, that's just ignorance
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig
Are you retarded?
Custom build pc's are cheaper than pre build ones and give you way more freedom.
Also what you posted here doesn't give the graphics card, what type of ram it is, what motherboard it is, nothing.
is PC part picker good to use?
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig
nigga
>>344949209
yes
>>344949209
yes
>>344949192
>>344949240
I looked up the suggested sites, and everything that would be at least decent runs around 800+ dollars.
>>344949514
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/JTD48d/entry-level-gaming-build
>>344949514
just use logical increments or a budget build from pc part picker
the sub ~$500 builds on there are infinitely better than the prebuilt in OP and will easily get the games you want to play at 50-60 fps on max
>>344949514
>suggestions
that's where you jump in a start looking for cost-saving measures
for instance getting a locked CPU instead of a K-series
or getting a 1060 instead of a 1080
or sticking with a HDD instead of splurging on an SSD
don't forget you don't need an optical drive, you don't need to pay for windows, you don't need a Z-series motherboard for a locked CPU, you don't need a $100 case, etc.
>>344942647
>lists battery type
>no gpu info
10/10
>>344949514
try this, anon: https://choosemypc.net/
>>344942647
>Contained Battery Type: Lithium Primary
See, here's your problem. You want a Sodium Chloride battery, not Lithium.
How much are you planning to spend in total op? What's your max?
>>344949750
>https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/JTD48d/entry-level-gaming-build
2nd
>>344950162
Something between 600-700 wouldn't break my bank, but I don't know if something in that price range could play Subnautica well. Its reccommended specs are in >>344947328
>>344950045
>>344949750
>>344948421
Holy Fuck building PCs has gotten so easy now days!
It used to be a good amount of researching now these websites pretty much build you the best PC for the money.
Console babbies have no excuse!
>>344950553
>something in that price range could play Subnautica
you should be able to play this on a Raspberry Pi
>>344950553
if you're playing at 1080p or below it absolutely would.
>>344950553
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/94GrJx
replace the 960 with a 1060
bam, you're good for the next 3-4 years
I did a $700 price limit and got this:
https://choosemypc.net/build/?budget=700&oc=false&options=os
Is that a good setup?
>>344950553
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDnqK8
$730
You are set for really good gaming for years to come.
>>344950932
>>344950935
>SSD in a budget build
cmon guys
>>344951114
We could go cheaper but for 700 bucks SSD are pretty important. The speed alone makes them worth it.
>>344950932
>>344950935
>paying for windows
wew
>>344951307
I personally wouldn't but im not OP
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom build a rig
You're a goddamn moron.
>>344951286
when you get mad because "it takes forever to boot up" and decide to build a new pc from scratch you'll realize how dumb your post is
>>344951449
>>344942647
Also, where the FUCK is your GPU? You list all this irrelevant shit and then you neglect to even mention the muscle of your entire machine.
You don't deserve a PC.
>>344951452
Do you have an SSD?
Its day and night. I could never go back to being limited by a Hard disk.
>>344951452
SSD means a computer will take a long time to boot up?
>>344942647
>amd cpu
why ask when you already know its complete shit?
>>344943171
it doesn't HAVE a graphics card, numbnuts.
>>344942647
get the fuck outta here with that
>>344951668
This. Absolutely this.
Depends on the program but usually it's neither the GPU nor CPU which is a bottleneck for like 90% of your programs. I just love SSD loading times they're amazing.
/g/ deserves eternal hate for saying that these things are "just memes". Fucking retards I swear
>>344948421
>linustechtips
trash, memespouting retard
>jayztwocents
trash, specs list reading retard who doesn't know shit about what he's talking about.
go to gamersnexus if you want to listen to kiketubers.
but just go to logicalincrements and pcpartpicker.
>>344951531
He literally copied and pasted it.
The GPU is listed down the page-- GT 730.
>>344952509
>GT
>>344952509
omg, stay the fuck away from that monstrosity, op! it's not worth it!
>>344950553
CPU: http://www.microcenter.com/product/451885/Core_i5-6600K_35GHz_1151_Boxed_Processor
i5 6600k- 209 bucks
Gotta walk in but this shit is worth the 40 bucks you save
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132691
Asus mobo : 105 bucks but 85 after rebate
Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231888
16 gb gskill ddr4- 60 bucks
GPU: rx 480, sapphire- 250 bucks
Not out yet but should be this week. Make sure it's the one with this box
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-21260-00-20G/dp/B01GTYIEG2
Case: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Silent-Quiet-Tower/dp/B00RORBQSW
Basic corsair case 50 bucks
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438059
Evga 650 watts psu 70 but 55 after rebate
HDD: Just get a regular HD at 1 terabyte for 30-50 bucks
Added up that 791 and with rebates around 756.
best I can do cause really this is a pretty good build that will last for quite a while in the future. All you have to do is pop out a new graphics card whenever you want.
>>344952509
>GT 730
Does a cheaper vidya card even exist? I'm not sure.
>>344952509
Ya that's a throwaway GPU if I've ever seen one.
Typical bullshit build. If the motherboard is good it *might* be worth it but at the same time your CPU is shit and that's a pain in the ass to replace too.
On second thought, don't fucking do it you goddamn retard. OP might not be smart enough to build his own machine to which I will actually suggest he listens to....linustechtips
Yeesh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clrj_lSDvzQ
Get a prebuilt with a shitty/no GPU but great CPU, PSU and motherboard. The RAM, GPU, and harddrives are all easy as piss to replace.
>>344953049
Before TigerDirect went out of business I literally saw a GT 210 on the shelves. I was disgusted beyond disgusted.
Who in their right mind would even spend time to assemble that shit?
>>344942647
>can't afford to build own PC
>have great idea
>will pay significant price premium for someone else to do it for me
wow anon you are be so smart, how can learn?
>>344953104
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clrj_lSDvzQ
>Linus has a wife
Fuck man. Sure as hell didn't see that coming.
>>344953045
Forgot to mention
As for windows don't buy that shit. Just download the iso off here
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/
and make a bootable usb stick
Then use toolkit to activate it:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/28669-Microsoft-Toolkit-Official-KMS-Solution-for-Microsoft-Products
Maybe when windows is cheap enough, pick up a legit copy.
Also the 480 you're looking for is the rx 480 nitro from sapphire. The one I posted was the reference in that link my bad. There could also be cheaper rx 480 by other manufacturers depending on stock. So you could be paying 10-20 less.
>GPU CPU PSU
What's the difference between all of those?
>>344953309
Excuse me for not being born with an intimate knowledge of electronics. You were a stupid greenhorn at one point, too.
>>344953482
Sapphire is a great brand though,
There's looks solid I'd still go with that one even for a slightly higher price.
>>344953534
GPU is your video card.
CPU is your processor
PSU is your power supply.
>>344953534
>GPU
Graphics Processing Unit. Your graphics card. The muscle of literally everything you do.
>CPU
Central Processing Unit. The brains
>PSU
Power Supply. Without one(or with a shitty one) you might as well have bought a toaster.
>>344953794
Ah, thanks.
>>344953534
GPU: Graphics card. This is what's needed to run games and give image to your monitor. How games run mainly depend on this.
CPU: The brain of the pc that handles most operating system tasks. For gaming it's important you have a good one so games don't get bottlenecked. What a bottleneck means is that if you have a real good video card but a shitty cpu, the cpu will hold the gpu back and your framerates as well. CPUs have stagnated lately though so you don't really have to upgrade them if at all unless you own a shitty i3. The gpu is what most people upgrade. I'm still on a cpu from 2009 just overclocked. An i5 should do it.
PSU: Power supply unit. Just what powers your pc. Nothing special but every part takes up wattage so you need to get a decent one to run everything properly. 650 watts + is good enough for most builds. You generally want a modular one since they allow cables to be added and removed as you see fit. When it's not modular, all the cables are permanently attached even the shit you don't use.
>>344953534
Yeah, but you know what the difference is?
I fucking googled some basic knowledge instead of coming onto /v/ acting like I know what I'm talking about, creating a shitty post and wasting people's shitty time with shitty problems.
I just hope it's your own money you end up wasting on some shitty EDGEWARE PC and not your poor parents, you insufferable cunt.
>>344954334
I'm sorry, when and how did I "act like I knew everything"? All I did was post the specs of a computer that caught my eye. Sounds like you have a problem with making up shit to get angry about.
>>344954557
1. You should have done some research before immediately coming to /v/ for help you useless, dimwitted fuck
2. You not only ignored Part #1 but you also opened with the line "thinking of getting a gaming PC, can't afford to custom-build a rig", so now you are not only a lazy cunt, but you've also just made a completely wrong presumption. So at this point, you're lazy and fucking stupid, perhaps even retarded.
3. You've continued to act like a presumptuous prick in your shitty thread. Go and use google you thick-skulled fuckwit, then go ask Reddit for help, they seem more your type. Ironically, you'll probably get better advice there.
>>344946843
It's far easier to skip that extra step of upgrading by doing clean installs.
>>344942647
save yourself the trouble by using pcpartpicker.com, you can also browse through various user builds and buy similar parts to assemble your own
never buy prebuilt
>>344955213
Technically, once he's done upgrading to 10, he can format 10 at any time as a clean install for the rest of his mobo's duration
>>344953482
>Maybe when windows is cheap enough, pick up a legit copy.
Pirate 8.1 and get the free upgrade
>>344951795
kys
>>344955361
The upgrade window is ending this month. OP likely won't have cash together by then.
>>344955304
Exactly what I did
>>344955304
True, but why bother with the extra upgrade step when you're going to pirate in the first place? Being legitimate isn't of any real concern if you're pirating. You're not going to get that "activate windows" text if you do it right.
>>344955090
That is quite the list of absolutely nothing right there.
>you asked /v/ for help, argh this makes me shit my pants in anger!
Is there some rule against asking /v/ questions?
>You've continued to act like a presumptuous prick in your shitty thread
Plase point out all the posts where I did this, thank you. I'll then point out all of the posts where I asked questions, thanked people for help, and looked at what was suggested to me.
>>344955460
Because I get official MS support and any benefits in the future from having a legit copy.
>>344955571
>y-y-your arguments are nothing!
>being this pathetic
just end yourself
>>344955460
Can you copy Windows 10 from one computer and install it onto another computer?
>>344955593
>Because I get official MS support
Point, but for me I don't much care for any "MS support," not even on the technical side for troubleshooting. MS support isn't like Apple. But for normalfags and clueless illiterates it's probably a must have.
>and any benefits in the future from having a legit copy.
Software side, I don't see any tangible benefits unless Microsoft somehow blocks pirates like me that used ms toolkit from going on their crappy store.
The last time I bought a Microsoft product was a physical copy of Age of Empires 3.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jX2zyf
What would you guys change?
>>344955986
It logs your mobo data so you don't need a key when reinstalling, so no.
>>344955986
Clone the drive? Easily with the right software. You can do the same with 7 and 8.1. But you'll have to reactivate with MS Toolkit, with windows 10 the key is tied to the mobo.
>>344956137
I'm worried that that may be the case in the future whenmore xbox gamescome to PC
>>344942647
They don't even list the GPU, that's a huge warning sign that you're getting jewed
>>344946090
Work gave me an MSDN account, I don't really have to pay for Microsoft anything when it comes to software.
>>344956143
PSU is shit. CX corsair is bad, there's at least two anons in /g/ today posting about having to replace it with Evga G2s.
Don't buy 8.1. Pirate it then get 10.
Norton is shit.
1070 > 980ti, new arch, beware of the gimpening.
>>344956264
I doubt that would happen if you closely look at how the activators work in the first place. Don't forget Microsoft couldn't distinguish between pirated 7 and legitimate 7 with daz loader unless you installed a certain update.
>>344956529
Nice.
>>344956548
Other than that, the rest checks out? I was mainly worried if I picked the wrong case for the mobo.
And what's up with the PSU? Defective product?
>>344951725
faster. HDD means it'll take longer.
>>344942647
>gaming pc
LMAO
>>344956143
>Wireless Network Adapter
Is wired absolutely not an option?
>>344942647
>>344943362
>>344943560
>>344943735
>>344944529
Jesus christ OP, clearly you know nothing about computers, but worse than that, you are just a fucking bad person.
Get out of here you cunt.
Anons, what would be the biggest upgrade to increase my steam link streaming? I can downsscale my resolution to 4k in a lot of games, but for some reason I can barely hit 1080p when i'm playing stuff on my tv.
Do i need more GPU power or would it be like an SSD or something? Been trying to do some research on this but so far i'm not having any luck for this specific issue
>>344956774
Not so much defective as higher failure rate, like Seagate 3TB hard drives and recently Western HDDs like their green brand. You can go ahead and buy it, but don't say you weren't warned 1 year from now if it ever craps out. And you might want to get a cheap 256gb SSD just for the faster load times and OS boot.
The case is a case, no comment unless you want something that lessens noise versus having a window. R4 and R5 Fractals are pretty damn cheap nowadays, under 80 dollars for non-window ones.
>>344956143
why on earth are you getting a 980ti
>>344957073
>Anons, what would be the biggest upgrade to increase my steam link streaming?
Your internet, most likely.
>>344957073
>streaming
bandwidth and latency problems
>>344957193
>>344957176
ah, that's gonna be a pain to upgrade over a new part. Thanks, anons
>>344957041
The room it's gonna be in is in the second floor and the modem is on the first.
>>344957150
I just want my VR, bro.
>>344957721
Get a 1070 if you must have Nvidia. Don't ever buy older gen Nvidia when a new gen is out.
>>344946406
>(currently 970) will last me a long time
Is this anon for real?
>>344957974
Read again, he's looking for something better, that 970 is a stopgap.
>nvidia 730
>>344957340
You could try a better router if yours is iffy, or just buy an excessively long HDMI cord for your PC->TV
>>344942647
>"can't afford to build"
>decides to buy an overpriced pre-build
Are you literally retarded??
>Processor Type: AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core Processor
>No GPU at all
>W10
it is SHIT.
Why does everyone hate Windows 10 so much?
>>344957965
>>344957150
>>344957101
>>344956548
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YT8yXH
Better?
>>344959320
Because of Microsoft forcing it down people's throats. Look at all the nagging that's been going on, it's reminiscent of malware. Still, it is actually beneficial to casual and mainstream retards that only want to game and browse FB. It takes care of security updates and prevents their lazy asses from installing a million toolbars.
>>344943362
>>344945737
$20 if you buy a key from ebay
>>344959561
Looks good. Not something I would build with that budget, but it looks good enough. Do it. Get your wallet.
>>344959561
gigabyte makes shitty, loud, power-hungry video cards
see if you can grab a different brand at a similar price
>>344959613
>not wearing a gas mask
i'm triggered
he's probably dead by now
>>344942647
PCucks, everyone.
Looking at prebuilt computers thinking they're "GAYMAN" PCs with no GPU at all, also a AMD cpu ontop of that.
>>344959785
Was it Gigabyte or XFX that are also doing easily removable fans on their rx 480 GPUs? I know Sapphire is doing that.
>>344959785
How about MSI?
That brand better?
>>344959867
Do you wear floaties in the bath tub?
>>344959931
MSI is hit or miss, really depends on luck. Gigabyte has been consistently shitty for me
>>344959921
not sure tbch
>>344959867
>mask
Bane?
>>344959895
>says PCuck
>proceeds to critique PC building
>>344959931
Just don't get Zotac. Gigabyte, MSI, and EVGA are good.
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig. Does this pre-built look good?
...what? are you some kind of retard?
How good of a pc can I build for 1100?
I want triple A ultra 1080p 60fps gaming, with some longevity mixed in
>>344942647
I make quality ass threads for discussion of vidya and that shit dies fast yet THIS gets replies?
Fuck you guys.
>OP's desktop is about $450 USD
honestly bud you may as well buy someone's old custom build
>>344960334
>>344960326
for 1100 you can max out everything that currently exists pretty easily.
>>344942647
i5 4460
gtx 750 ti
8gb ram
would do better for the same price
>>344959745
I'm not really going for AAA Ultra HD gaming (maybe some, but not my main goal), I just want a computer I don't have to upgrade for a while.
That, and I really wanna try VR.
>>344960334
Upgrade your bait.
>>344944529
>asks for help from people who are presumably more knowledgeable on the subject
>proceeds to berate them for actually being knowledgeable on the subject
By an overpriced gaming laptop that will run most new games only on mid-low settings and only start to deteriorate in performance after 2 years and go fuck yourself.
>>344960541
>I just want a computer I don't have to upgrade for a while.
That's true for everything but the GPU. The GPU is the component that gets upgraded down the line most often. Like I said, it's a good build, but not a build I would make with that budget.
Can I get some feedback/suggestions for this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
I'm >>344960326 looking for the 1080p 60fps paradise.
>>344960603
>proceeds to berate them for actually being knowledgeable on the subject
When every answer for the first twenty posts comes in the form of "Holy fuck you're so stupid why are you making the PC master race look so bad were you not born with the knowledge of making the best computers ever kill yourself troll argh". anyone would get a little pissy. The funny thing is everyone else here went through the same thing when they ask a simple question for help. We may be the master race but we're also an angry bunch of shitheads.
>>344960873
>We may be the master race but we're also an angry bunch of shitheads.
No, I think that's just /v/ in general.
You should try asking this stuff elsewhere. If you're this ignorant on the subject, it's only natural these guys would get hostile towards you.
Would having two Nvidia 960 on SLI be good?
>>344960852
You didn't post the right link.
>>344961147
What does SLI do?
Run graphics better or what?
>>344961147
>two Nvidia 960 on SLI
You have my deepest condolences, anon. I feel sorry for your wallet.
>>344961209
Taking the capacity of both graphic cards. SLI = 2 graphic cards connected
>>344961186
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Whoops, my bad dawg.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9h4w6X
pls no bully.
>>344961079
>assuming I'm the OP
We also need to stop this mindset of "everyone who isn't me is the same person".
>>344961303
the ones from Gigabyte cost ~200$ on amazon each.
>>344961340
And until DX12/Vulkan meant that the ram was mirrored, so two 4GB GPUs = 4GB of ram in DX11/Opengl, but in DX12/Vulkan meant 8GB total usable ram. At least that's what it's supposed to do.
>>344961407
Still a bad idea for 400 dollars. A single 1070 at that price would be better. I lean towards AMD, so at 200ea I would get an rx 480.
>>344961473
So having 2 identical cards with DX12 will allow me to use the full power of both cards?
>>344961710
>>344961631
>>344961473
>>344961407
>>344961340
>>344961303
>>344961209
>>344961147
why would you outright buy two low-end cards and SLI them when you can buy one, singular, powerful card and then SLI THAT down the road in a year or two when the single card is showing its age
>>344961147
Literally no point. Just get a 1080 or whatever it is. You'll ALWAYS run into more problems with SLI then just buying a single powerful card.
>>344961710
not really. graphics cards doesnt scale like that unless its a specific game or benchmarking program. as far as i know you get about 30% ish boost with 2 card config. in most of the cases. its always best to go for the best single card you can buy instead of buying 2 cheap ones.
>>344961976
>>344961976
>as far as i know you get about 30% ish boost with 2 card config
no it's closer to like 180/200
SLI is shit but it's not THAT shit
how often do you guys clean your PCs? I put mine in my room recently and I've noticed I wake up feeling like i have gravel in my eyes and bags. i assume its from my pc running all night
>>344942647
if you don't know whether or not the pre-build you're buying is any good then why the fuck are you bothering with a computer
go buy a ps4 or something you fucking idiot
lurk more
>>344961349
Try this instead:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpZjyf
>>344962102
this is as dumb as koreans thinking leaving a fan on overnight will kill them
(look up 'korean fan death')
>>344962102
i clean it about once every 6 months, never had that problem and i live in a really dusty desert like place as well.
>>344944529
Stick to consoles
>>344962151
Is it worth getting the K though if I have no plans to over clock?
>>344962428
Worth it. You can bet the dumbasses who didn't buy overclocked Sandy Bridge either regretted it or ended up upgrading too soon, while those who did are happy a modest overclock lets them catch up.
Pic related is an overclock that is not only more than modest, it's fucking nuts.
>>344962552
Alright anon, I trust you.
Thanks!
>>344959561
Pro tip
If you're getting a 250 buck monitor, at least get one that has an IPS panel
TN is shit
>>344962552
>>344962661
you can overclock non-k skylakes as well by the way.
its possible to push a 3.2 ghz 6500 to work on about 4.5 ghz which is a huge boost.
>>344962759
Is there any IPS monitor with 144hz?
>>344962854
I doubt he's confident enough of a beginner to even try that. Most of the mobos that allow it have since had their BIOS updated to prevent that. Fucking Intel.
>>344962854
From my readings, but I am a greenhorn so feel free to correct me, it seems overclocking has become less necessary.
Is it worth it to kill the life of my cpu a bit for marginal benefits?
Or is it totally worth it?
>>344962883
SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>344962989
>Is it worth it to kill the life of my cpu a bit for marginal benefits?
By the time the CPU dies 7-10 years will have passed. Intel CPUs have a boost mode where cores temporarily "overclock" themselves. Take the i7 4790k from the last generation. 4.0GHz but with a boost of 4.4GHz. You can safely hit the boost of 4.4GHz in a sustained manual overclock so long as you have good cooling, thereby overriding the need for the boost mode. Going over the allotted clocks for boost mode will tell you if you have a golden chip or a dud, which is where you see those 4.6-4.8GHz overclocks for Intel.
>>344963154
What? You mean to tell me there is no IPS monitor with 144hz for 250 dollars? Because fuck 60hz, if I wanted that I would get a TV.
>>344962989
overclocking doesnt really kill your cpu unless you dont cool it properly as far as i know. the only problem you ll face is the heat and you have to deal with it properly. there are pretty good custom heat sinks for cpus like evga's evo 212 or something.
i am using a 6500 myself non overclocked and it is performing very well so far (keep in mind its pretty new about 9 months old). I am thinking about overclocking it if i ever experience a cpu bottleneck (which is very unlikely if you dont play both cpu and gpu intensive games like crysis).
so no, i dont believe overclocking is necessary if you dont have a really old or very slow cpu.
>>344962979
you can still find old bios around the internet though. the only issue i ve heard about overclocking non-k skylake is the temperature readings get broken somehow, as in the temperature doesnt show the correct degrees.
>>344963228
Alright, cool, cool.
I gotta say, I am enjoying learning about all this, I am ready to leave console peasentry behind.
>>344963349
>there are pretty good custom heat sinks for cpus like evga's evo 212 or something.
>evga evo 212
You mean cooler master, and the evo 212 is only a little bit better than stock Intel cooling. The fan it comes with is simply terrible.
>>344963395
>I am ready to leave console peasentry behind.
I still fire up my NES from time to time, emulation isn't really the same experience.
>>344963475
sorry yeah cooler master. never used a custom cooler myself for cpu, never needed to overclock etc.
fun fact is my cpu doesnt even have thermal paste but it runs at most at 50C while gaming and 35-38 while idle, with ambient temp at about 30 to 35 C during the day.
>>344963581
I think it does have thermal paste, unless you're on a CPU that still works with passive cooling. Thermal paste tends to come pre-applied on stock coolers.
>>344963663
no i mean when i was building my current pc, i forgot to buy thermal paste thus couldnt put any between the cpu plate and cooler.
>>344963571
Well yeah those classic systems will always have a place in my heart and mean a lots to me.
But from Xboner to Ps4, it's as soulless as can be, so I might aswell go for something can offer me more.
>>344963798
Shit what, post specs now.If AMD CPU I'm going to laugh because AMD CPUs don't have an actual temp sensor.
>>344963850
I can understand Xbone being soulless, but PS4? It's the go-to console.
Case
Power supply
Motherboard supporting Intel processor
At least Intel i3 processor
At least 8 GB ram total
Gtx 980/970 or rx480 or gtx1060 GPU
Depending on what the motherboard supports get a SATA 1-3 500gb-1tb hard drive
Windows 10 is really not all that bad but if it bothers you go spend that extra $80 on Windows 7
Search for this shit on newegg
Order the parts yourself
Literally build it yourself, it's not too hard
Prebuilts are a scam of you're going for actual PC gaming, but may be good to build on top of if you already have one.
Other anons probably gave clearer advice than me but holy shit this is bothering.
>>344963349
I think it was asrock or maybe gigabyte that explicitly still allows overclocking of non-oc Skylake.
>>344963886
i am at work now dont have access to my computer but its;
i5 6500 cpu
8gb kingston hyperfury whatever @2133 mhz
asus h110m-c mobo
750ti oc gpu
caviar blue 1 TB hdd
have 2x 20cm and 1x 14cm fans on the case
seasonic x series 850w psu
my only regret is going cheap on mobo.
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom build
But pre built pcs cost more
>>344964190
you can still download old bios for other mobos as well and overclock your skylake for other mobos as well as far as i ve read.
>>344964196
You're using stock Intel cooler, it came with thermal paste applied on the bottom part of the heatsink.
>>344964059
That's a fair point, I admit my time with the PS4 wasn't long but the games available were better for sure.
Ok quick aside to PC thoughs, the graphics card you put on the revamp build, gtx 1070 founders edition, is that limited edition? If I don't buy that soon am I sol?
I have Windows 8.1 what are the downsides of upgrading to 10 without a clean install?
>>344964296
hmmm, maybe thats the case but i ve never really checked it. i was actually really surprised about the low temps without thermal paste but this explains it now.
>>344964307
after upgrading you may have driver issues and need to reinstall them etc
but windows 8 to 10 is a serious fix
also I'm a little confused by "clean install"
>>344964301
>MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>Founders
No, it's not the founders edition, it's the aftermarket, which means custom cooling. Look again at the dual fan setup on the card. Founders is a marketing term for reference, don't fall for that, all you're paying for is aesthetics, no real performance gain. Reference cards also sound like leaf blowers when doing work.
>>344942647
Did you reddit rejects get run out of /g/? Why do I see this shit on a board about video games
>>344964456
I meant reformating and instaling 10 from USB
>>344964494
Sweet, I'm going to save picture that shit to make sure I don't get bamboozled.
>>344964649
/g/ is already fucked up with GPU threads and gamer build threads, I'm surprised the mods haven't run them out of /g/ back into /v/
>>344964738
Never buy reference from either AMD or Nvidia unless you're confident enough to strip off the blower and install your own custom cooler.
>>344961962
My nigga, this.
That's what I did; bought a GTX 980 on release, and if it gets a bit worse later, I'll SLI the fucker.
My old gpu is amd radeon 8760, can you recommend me an upgrade that would be a significant improvement but fair in price?
>>344965956
aftermarket rx 480
>>344966146
Well, the price is not bad, definitely.
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig.
But it's cheaper to build the rig yourself
>>344942647
>can't afford to custom-build a rig
What kind of argument is this
Prebuilts are the same thing as custom built ones, but with a 20% markup for the shop and shitty parts in the places where the average plebe won't look, so psu/mobo/hdd/stuff
Is this like the updated version of the ONE TERABYTE HARD DRIVE guy from the SWTOR forums?
>>344968154
Fuck me for remembering. Do you have the image saved?
>>344942647
>Thinking of getting a gaming PC, can't afford to custom-build a rig. Does this pre-built look good?
What? But, prebuilts are more expensive than custom builds?
>>344968316
That thread is actually still up:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=56133
