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WHERE MY HYPE AT? IT LOOKS FUCKING GUD FOR UNITY.
>>344804584
the pre alpha has been out for a while faggot. we already talked about it.
>>344804584
>IT LOOKS FUCKING GUD FOR UNITY.
said like a fucking moron who's probably been riding the "lol Unity's shit!!" bandwagon for years, without even knowing why.
Unity's been good since v3, and v5 is just amazing. Friendly reminder that Cities Skylines and Escape From Tarkov run on it too.
>>344804584
Love me some squared textures
>>344804584
It really doesn't. You'd think it does from screenshots, but then you play it, and even though the enemies are great so far, the enviroment looks like a setpiece mockup. It's not technically bad looking, but something about the way they've laid it all out together looks fake and hollow while you're moving around in it.
It needs a lot of work to get acceptable.
>>344804584
It's shit. Just go play Enhanced Edition, you plebian.
>textures all blocky and shit on purpose
>>344804584
>PRE-ALPHA
shouldn't even be playable
>maxofs2d
fuck off.
I've been jilted before by /v/.
The brousif leg game was awful
Morrowind was dreadful
FO1 and 2 were incredibly boring and un-intuitive
What makes this game good?
>>344804584
I mean, you can only get so hype for making a DOS game playable on modern systems. It's not gonna' break any barriers, but it'll probably be worth a playthrough.
>>344805738
But it's a proof of concept demo. It's not representative of the final product.
>>344804584
>We want the Bioshock audience
>>344805651
jesus fucking christ this shit makes me laugh everytime
>>344805883
Feel free to stop playing video games anytime now desu senpai
>>344804584
It's shit.
>>344806018
>nostalgiafags
fuck some things just don't age well.
ad hominum, sell System Shock 2 too me.
>>344805339
This. The reboot is already proving to be godawful.
>>344805651
>Hey guys, a remake of SS2. Enjoy SS2 in modern graphics!
>Oh but we made it look shit on purpose
???
>>344806104
It's like Bioshock except you build your class and if you build it wrong you can get locked out of the endgame by virtue of being an idiot. Just fucking pirate it and play it if you're so damn curious, christ.
>>344805738
I hate what video games have done to software terminology.
Pre-alpha wouldn't even have an existing playable game, yet it and alpha are used to represent near-gold completion.
System Shock 1 > System Shock 2
>>344808669
System Shock 1 was a clunky peace of shit.
I'll stick to the original, thank you very much.
This "remake" is only made so they can pander to retarded Let's Play morons.
>>344808669
Fuck yeah
>>344804791
>no true fullscreen
>borderless windowed forced-vsync instead
No, it's still shit.
>>344804584
>While giving today's gamers the modern look and feel expected from a great game
Regenerating health confirmed
Does the remake show cyberspace?
>>344809649
this.
mfw it's going to be good graphics but nothing else
>>344805883
>FO1 and 2 were incredibly boring and un-intuitive
That's what happens when your raised on shit games anon.
>>344809964
My biggest fear is that they'll downgrade the controls and the levels.
The "re-imagining" part really worries me.
>>344805883
Nothing man, everyone but you just has shit taste.
>>344808669
This is a fact.
>>344811003
guess what they already did
>>344809964
>good graphics and nothing else
It's a fucking remaster, isn't that good? Jesus christ /v/
why would anyone kickstart a remake of a game
>>344811413
Not when they downgrade the gameplay at every turn.
>>344811503
Because they're too young or too casual to stomach playing an actual good game like the original, but they're still extremely eager to jump on the classic games bandwagon for some reason.
>>344804584
Presenting: System Shock! As re-imagined by Bioshock fans who heard about how scary System shock 2 was!
Started the second one yesterday
How do I get good? It's been pretty easy I'm looking for a doctor dude to get the codes for the elevator I think
>>344811828
Fuck off, retard.
>>344811808
hey.
i like system shock (2) a lot. but I think bioshock was a worthy spiritual successor until infinite.
stop being autistic.
>>344812650
Owned.
>>344809984
He is right though, I played them back in the day and thought they were good but now they are borderline unplayable.
>>344812869
hey.
you got bad taste
>>344804584
>>344812869
Bioshock is trash. Kill yourself, my dude.
>>344813425
really made me think
>>344804584
>being hyped for another soulless remake of a masterpiece
Yeah no thanks. It looks and plays like every other space horror game on the market now. The EE is perfect and there is no reason for this remake.
>>344811340
RIP ORIGIN
Since when was SS1 a horror game with generic orchestra music?
>>344814605
Since the time it was an RPG.
>>344806104
I haven't played these games until the past 6 years or so and enjoyed them a lot. you just have really shitty taste.
POST YOUR FAVORITE SS1 MUSIC TRACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkOCAm-v0U
>>344808669
Pretty much this. Once you get comfy with the UI it truly is a masterpiece. All the RPG shit in 2 was a real turn off and the game overall wasn't as unique and interesting as 1.
Overwatch is here to stay and it's not a 20 year old game that will do
I see you shills trying to undermine the work of blizzard talking about other games but it's obvious
Should i play system shock 2?
Im too lazy to pirate most stuff.
>>344816298
I thought it was pretty fun, and I didn't play it until 2013
>>344804584
nah
>>344805651
I dig the unfiltered textures. They're adding an option for texture filtering though.
>>344805883
>FO1 and 2 boring and unintuitive
kill yourself
>>344805339
>just go actual game instead of 3 minute tech demo
holy fuck, you must be really stupid if you feel the need to give advices like that
>op starts with a shitpost
>100% of the thread is shitposting
was this part of your plan
>kikestarter
>even once
>TFW every download link for Sticky Situation: Vapid Mommy has been taken down
GOD DAMN IT MISSA I'M NOT BUYING YOUR INCEST RAPE PORN JUST LET ME WATCH IT THIS IS VERY UPSETTING
>>344813425
Finally a smart game for smart gamers.
>>344808669
Warren Spector > Ken Levine
>play SS:EE
>it's actually fun
>>344819590
literally anybody > ken levine
>>344819607
Well System Shock's a good game, and the enhanced edition's a good boy that dindu nuffin. It's the Kickstarter remake that's worrying.
>>344819267
>maxofs2d is working on the game
>>344804584
>giving a shit about a game that won't come out for nearly a year and a half
Don't you have a backlog to work on or something?
>>344804584
Max? Max of S2D. MaxOfS2D max Of S 2 D, max of.
S2D of Max, max of S2D.
>reee
>>344805205
It's pre-alpha. It's basically just a proof of concept. By the time a beta rolls around it will most likely be looking a lot nicer.
>>344804584
It's been out though
>>344811547
>System Shock 1
>gameplay
Toppest of kekkingtons to you, sir.
>>344813292
Without mentioning System Shock 1 or 2 or using the phrase "dumbed down", "downgrade", "cuck", or any of /v/'s other favorite buzzwords, what was wrong with Bioshock aside from the final boss fight?
>>344805883
Fuck you and your gay shit. EYE, Morrowind, and FO1-2 were god tier games
>>344820329
>>344820172
What did he do wrong?
>>344813425
What's wrong with that, children don't know how to push individual buttons on the keypad?
>>344820172
Dude don't mention his username here he'll know he was mentioned and start trying to shit up the thread in defense.
>We remade System Shock but with COOL MODERN GRAPHICS!
>the graphics are shit
Umm what's going on?
>>344821692
yeah, he literally has google alerts setup to instantly notify him if his name is ever mentioned online
Why not just play the original again?
What's the point of this remake?
>>344820916
Not going to respect your "reply rules" since, Bioshock being a spiritual successor, opens comparison to SS1 and SS2. Unlike system shock and system shock 2 the exploration elements(the main point of the games) are largely non-existent. There's a few parts in Bioshock where you can choose which level to go to next, but the levels themselves play out very linear and minimal to no secrets or exploration based goals. There is minimal backtracking involved and usually if you finish a level you'll never see it again. If you're asking about this you probably havent played SS1, which has some of the best level design ever, constantly keeping the player exploring, unlocking new shortcuts, while providing just enough information to keep the player moving where they need to. In addition system shock takes it a step further by hiding things under tables or just out of reach, giving the player even more of a reason to explore with all the tools available. System shock places things where you might find them, Bioshock places things where you WILL find it. System shock provides tools for you to solve problems with, Bioshock grabs you by the hand and tells you what to do.
It's hard to come up with a list of Bioshock's faults, because there is simply nothing to the game. It is immensely shallow. They try to cover up the lack of depth with the littlesister/big daddy shit, but the entire point of that mechanic is to just give you some more power that you dont need since enemy AI is about as smart as SS1's. Gunplay is the exact same shit as every other console FPS being made at that time. Plasmids are just guns you use less, weapon upgrades are just there for the sake of reward cycles since the average consolefag loves making their number go up.(RPG stats for the sake of a reward system vs RPG stats for the sake of different gameplay styles).
out of characters but i already cared too much to write this
>>344821872
It's meant for the Bioshock kiddies who either never tried or got stuck in the original game.
>>344822243
So Bioshock fans can say they're big fans of System Shock without having to worry about actually playing it.
>>344805883
>brousif leg game
fuck outta here
>>344822243
Seriously, I could understand if it was a straight graphical upgrade but now that they're talking about "re-imagining" and shit, what is there to separate this from every other story driven shooter that came after SS?
>>344820916
>>344804791
>escape from Tarkov runs on Unity!
>Unity must be good guys
>Especially when slavshit garbage runs on it!
>>344823468
your ignorant dude
What's the argument against Unity engine again? that games using it run like shit on PCs?
>>344805883
What does it feel like to have the world's worst taste?
>>344823379
>picks the 2nd smallest map in the game
kek
>>344823379
?
>>344823610
Cause this is so complex, right? >>344823647
>>344804584
>pre-alpha
>making up new words to describe alpha because you've successfully convinced people to PAY for alpha
devilish
>>344823379
>cherrypicking.jpg or bait.png
Post every other area map if it isn't, fag.
>>344808035
It's almost like the development lifecycle has changed and due to a) what we're now capable of and b) what is expected by the market. Surely technology never changes it's such a static field, right?
holy fuck gonna be sick looking at this map, theres no way im gonna find my way through this mess
>>344823750
System shock 1 and 2 weren't complex you fucknuckle they were just arbitrary and obtuse.
>>344813425
I genuinely walked away from the keypad thinking I'd would find the code in a recorded message that one of the mutants carried or something.
I just didn't think they'd put it so nearby.
>>344822594
bioshock had plenty of items that you had to search for, including under tables and out of reach ones
also are you really complaining that it didnt have enough backtracking?
>>344815051
https://youtu.be/fz1wlcZnhv8?t=1181
>>344805883
I never noticed that dudes butt cheeks before.
>>344823967
>>344823647
These maps feel like a joke compared to the two SS games.
>>344824030
It's a staple of SS, and its an enjoyable part of those games, so yes.
And bioshock didnt have shit for searchable items because you didnt have an inventory. Everything you find is ammo or health.
>>344823750
It's less complex compared to SS1 or 2, sure, but at least he's showing an average level versus cherry picking
You miserable cunt
>>344823947
>>344824232
You accuse me of cherry picking, yet >>344823647 does the same and that's the BEST he could come up with. This is supposed to be a level in a exploration-based game. But I'm willing to listen to your thoughts on why Bioshock level design is so good.
>Unity
This is unoptimized as fuck, hope they change engines
>>344824161
>It's a staple of SS
well its not a system shock game, just because its a "spiritual successor" doesnt mean it has to follow the same formula
yeah the lack of an inventory kind of sucked but that doesnt mean you cant look for items, other than health and ammo which is obviously important, there was money, adam, hypos and some other shit you could find.
>>344824020
>just arbitrary and obtuse.
did you actually play the game or did you look at bunch of map screenshots
>>344824421
>that's the BEST he could come up with
>BEST
>he
These assumptions are great, I randomly clicked one of the images in google after searching "Bioshock map".
How about we do that for System Shock 2?
>>344824629
If its not a system shock game then why do you bioFAGGOTS come into my system shock thread with your shit game
>>344824651
Looks a lot better than anything in bioshock for sure.
>>344824718
>The original post in the quote chain was a System Shock faggot bringing up Bioshock
>First response was someone saying both games are good
Anon, ever looked in a mirror and thought maybe you're the shithead?
>>344820346
Every time.
>>344824718
because I enjoy both games. Also the argument is generally started by someone who hates bioshock, like
>>344805918
>>344811808
>>344824820
It looks no more complex than many Bioshock levels you mong.
Ok, I don't know nothing of Systemshock, what the actual fuck this has in common with Bioshock, if anything?
>>344825012
I dont think a bioshock fan has the right to call others shit heads.
>>344824421
???
You purposely picked the 2nd smallest map in Bioshock instead of a map of average size
My point is just that you're being an ass by cherrypicking
How you can't see that is beyond me
>>344825116
Maybe if you're really stretching to defend Bioshock.
>>344825242
alright i dont care, im talking about the actual subject
>>344825201
same creator, some similar mechanics, bioshock is considered a spiritual successor
>>344825201
Bioshock was lumped in with System Shock for the purposes of marketing
>>344825419
then you're doing a poor job by cherrypicking your arguements
you could use sound logic and reason, but instead you use shitty logic and reason
>>344825232
>>344825345
>>344825419
>Systemshock fags BTFO
Nice retorts faggots
>Hurr Bioshock fans are faggots always saying bringing their shit where it doesn't belong
>But it was the Systemshock fags bringing it all up in the first place
>Yea well... you're stupid
>unity instead of unreal4
jesus christ
>>344813425
>Enter code on keypad butt
>>344822941
It's funny you mention that because it actually was supposed to be just System Shock with new 3D graphics. That was back when it was first announced. When the kickstarter and demo released the current IP holders decided to scrap it all and make a remake instead, most likely because the original's puzzles would be considered too hard or obtuse by modern standards.
>>344825452
>>344825527
I see, thanks anons.
Huh, the more you know.
>>344825452
>same creator
No.
>>344826983
wasnt ken levine the lead designer of ss2 and bioshock?
>>344827163
Yeah but he had nothing to do with SS1.
>>344805738
>>344808035
It's just a demo you literal retards. I thought games releasing demos was supposed to be a good thing.
>>344828329
game sucks idiot
>>344808035
It's the fault of MMOs turning beta testing into a marketing point.
>40 fps on an i72600k + r9 280x
Fuck this shit, nigga.
come at me
>>344829991
why would I? I'd love to have a failthful remaster of SS.
>>344829991
>tfw didn't like the demo but my system shock collection won't be complete with this big box and artbook
All I feel is suffering.
>>344830762
post pics of what's in your collection
it's pretty obvious they just want to remake it as ss2
visuals are on point though, I even like the chunky unfiltered texture flter (they updated with a typical filter and it looks like shit)
it will probably be reasonably faithful in some ways and completely not in others but it's not like it's gonna replace the original anyway
>>344829991
>poor fag
$150 master race
>>344829991
>Please take my money and make this game that already exists
>>344831557
Yes
>>344831557
I see it as preordering the game early. For 75 dollars I get a steel book copy, digital collector edition and extra copies of the original games.
https://soundcloud.com/nightdivestudios
so we all hate the orchestral music but what do you guys think of the techno sound track?
>>344832558
Absolutely horrible.
>>344805883
Bait.
>>344832558
I dont even get why theyre doing the orchestral
like its not fitting and shouldnt an orchestra cost way more? oh yea because this whole things a fucking marketing ploy
>>344832558
>all those comments saying "this is what a system shock soundtrack should be like!"
Like I don't have a lot of attachment to the old songs, but you can tell they've never heard the original.
>>344833582
i could see the creepy ambient orchestral music work on level 3 since the music on that level was kinda meant to be dark and creepy but that like 5% of the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIEwevYyx6M&index=10&list=PLF2E2D1B4832DCE95
