And you niggas said the threads aren't dying edition
Last one didn't even reach bump limit. Post dank memes and shit
Guys?Anybody? ZTD was the best game in the series?Does baiting help?
anyone gpt link for the premium booklet and ost? i bought it on vita, its not fair steam user got the goodies
I WANT TO GRIP PHI'S PHIS
>>344762440
i'd rather her mom
Why is she so cute ?
There's an ending where Sigma and Diana are talking. A cloaked assassin comes in, and Sigma holds him/her off while Diana runs to get Phi.
The assassin kills Sigma, then Phi, and eventually Diana before walking out the X door.
Was it ever revealed who the assassin was? Or what they were doing there? Or why they killed group D?
I just beat the game and this was never answered.
>>344762553
Get that demon shit away from me.She's pretty cute excluding that pic
>>344762876
The hint is in the weapon used. Where else was this weapon found, and by who?
>>344762876
It was confirmed to be Mira. Just like her killing Jumpy.Keep up. Ii wish it had've been some FtS shit
>>344762876
>black nails
>heels
>scalpel
>>344762876It was Mira in the timeline she was injected with R6.
Sinceshewasn't always injected with the sleeping drugs she was able to roam free most of the time
>>344762890
Do you prefer her like this ?
>>344760762
C'mon Eric, you heard me. Shoot the thread, it won't die.
>>344763242
Had a dream that 999 ended with you running off with Aoi and banging him.
Then playing a direct sequel where you either choose to side with Aoi or Akane on their plans for reforming the world with crash keys and both routes branched off into separate timelines you can jump between.
Aoi was using media brainwashing to try and reform society into creating more SHIFTers
Akane's was more refined and about saving a few key people.
Dream was pretty cool until I had to wake up.
>>344763227
It's alright. I prefer 999 orchainsawAkane
She was a qt in 999 it's true
Let's face it, these are bound to die sooner or later.
After everything has been discussed, the only things left are memes, waifus and shitposting.
>>344760762
The threads don't have to be continuous my man. Take a break between threads to keep them fresh.
>>344763616
Too bad ZE isn't good for waifu posting
>>344763358
>not the superior version
>>344763714
Fuck you
>>344763714
But Alice is best waifu
>>344763714
are we claiming now?
>>344762553
All the "Deceased" portraits were somewhat unnerving...
Im currently playing through VLR and just got a "to be continued" ending. Im now completely turned off from playing the game. I got another ending before that which can only be described as a bad ending and felt that was fine because it was a result of a choice i made. I dont feel like i did anything wrong this time but feel like i was punished regardless. None of the 999 endings made me feel this way.
>>344763987
Unusual ZE waifu ? I love that
>>344763714
>>344763242
Should've moved to the side. I guess he didn't have enough time to come up with a plan.
>>344764157
>"to be continued" ending
I don't know if you know, but it's not technically an "ending", I mean, you can continue them, you just need to explore the other paths and come back.
Diana > Luna
>>344764157
>Punished
The whole game is about different timelines influencing each others. Think as if the safe ending influencing the coffin ending in 999 but on steroid.
>I didn't think i did anything wrong
You've probably been betrayed. Other characters fucked you over. Get over it you thin skin baby
And leave the thread before getting spoiled
>>344763714
If it's claiming time, I'm gonna get in quick for best girl
>>344764157
What kind of fragile little soul is hurt by a bad ending in a game where getting all the endings is the whole point.
I finished ZTD and I have a question...In which path was it that, after getting a game over, you get an scene of Sigma and Diana exiting through the X door while saying something like "Don't worry, everyone is still alive"?
What did he mean by that?
>>344764157
>Why does game about getting bad ends give me bad end?
>WAAAAAAAA
>>344764315
that honestly sounds like really shit design. Why am i being gated? Would it ruin the experience if i didn't have certain information? In that case why didn't it lock me out earlier instead of wasting an hour or 2 of my time? Because when i finally do return to that path im probably going to forget the specifics of what occurred just prior.
>>344764624They either got injected with the memory loss drug or they're extremely naive in the belief that everyone else is alive.
>>344764708
>Would it ruin the experience if i didn't have certain information?
Play the game.
>>344764708
shut up and play the game
You are being "gated" because you don't have the information to solve the problem presented to you in that path and need to return once you have it.
>>344764708
Yes. It would ruin the experience. And it couldn''t gate you out earlier because then it would destroy the illusion of choice. About a quarter of the paths are locked, and after you've gotten to one lock or game over it becomes increasingly easy to get new paths because you can skip dialogue and puzzles you've done. Play the game fuckwit, it'll make sense when you're done
>>344764570
>>344764630
it wasn't a bad ending. The characters were having a conversation and then all of a sudden "to be continued" showed up out of nowhere. It shouldn't have let me go down that path to begin with if it was going to do that.
>>344764793
I thought that scene had some hidden meaning or something, but what you just said makes sense. Thanks.
>>344765010
No, it should and if you finish the game it;ll make sense. Because you can go back to your last choice and get an actual ending that may help you unlock. Again, play the game you baiting fuck.What were they talking about?
>>344765010
So basically the entire concept of multiple timelines and that you need information from them to continue through others is completely lost on you? Go play another game
>>344765010
>Played 2 hours of the game
>A game about fucking time travel and mysteries
>Hurr durr I don't understand
Play the game
>>344765010
>It shouldn't have let me go down that path to begin with if it was going to do that.
>Sigma do you want to go through the red door or the green door?
>The green door
>Sorry you're not allowed to yet
>>344765010
If it shouldn't have let you go down that path, then when should it've stopped you? Because stopping you at any point before the start would've still given you to be continued and just ruined the illusion of choice.It doesn't mean continued in another path, It means literally come back there and continue later
>>344765010VLR actually only has one actual ending, getting the others aren't cosidered beating the game
Alright ,enough retard spoonfeeding.
Why was this deagle so fucking small ? Just how big carlos is ?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkvQte7JWpw
Why is Ever17 so perfect?
>You will never play any of the Infinity VNs or Zero Escape games for the first time again
>>344765781
Carlos is a Full Sized American
>>344765891
>Ever17
>Perfect
Pick one. 999 is objectively better in almost every aspect
>>344765781He's packing 8 inches maybe6 inches thick
>>344765781
He's a big guy.
>>344765891
Lmao. Ever17 is boring as fuck.
Only good thing about it was coco's route.
>>344766058
For you
>>344765891
>Ever17
I preferred R11. Felt much more tension with the Shadow in SPHIA ,and I think the mountain shelter was better for claustrophobia . Also I liked the bad endings and the fact they tried to get away from the dating sim elements Ever 17 had.Better waifu as well
Akane is a slut
>>344766608
Fuck you
Just finished the game.
Sowhere is Kyle? I thought he was supposed to play a big part in this game
>>344766831
>>344766831
YOU GOT TRICKED BY UCHIKOSHI!
>>344766831
That will be answered in Zero Escape 4. Please look forward to it.
Holyshit i just finished this and have some questions. Spoilers just incase
1. That old man being there the entire time was a wtf. Why does none of the characters pretty much ever mention him or even consider his existence? I know he is said to be blind and can't hear but still. He is present in at least some of the events like the one where Q team searches the library and we dont even see him but gets shot.
2. Why does Sigma need to use transporter in the timeline when he was trapped with Diana when he can just shift? He said he was using it whether or not Diana was going so it doesnt seem he was using to move to another timeline so he can get Diana out also.
3. Why would Diana knowingly kill 6 billion people she went out of the shelter?
4. When did Carlos kill Zero? He mentioned it in one of the timelines.
5. In the history where radical-6 gets released why does Akane say she will spend 45 years to prepare for the VLR ab game to save the world when all she had to do was shift again to another history? All preparations were already done.
6. When did Mira kill Junpei and why? Zero also mentioned she was an important part of the plan but how so? Also it was mentioned she killed Diana and Sigma in one of the timelines, which one was this and how did this happen?
7. Is there anything after the ended when Carlos points his gun at Zero? Also is there a Q/A the previous games?
8. Why does Sigma seem so stupid? He is meant to be some crazy smart 67 year old but honestly doesnt seem that smart when interacting with Phi and Diana.
So I guess we'll never find out how Clover and Alice went back to the past.
>>344767039
Here you go anon.Game is a mess. There isn't that much to look into
>>344767172
This will be revealed in the 4th game. I hope you guys look forward to it!
Holy shit i just noticed this entire game and all its outcomes are controlled by Q. I knew we were looking into the screen in the perspective of Q but all the decisions are done by Q also.
Just fucking stop making these threads the game has already been fucking discussed.Just wait for the inevitable ZE 4 announcement
>>344767497Should read Zero
>>344765981
Except for the twist. Which is the most important aspect for a mystery game.
>>344767039
>Why does none of the characters pretty much ever mention him or even consider his existence?
They do, you just don't ever see it :^)
>>344767039>6. When did Mira kill Junpei and why? Zero also mentioned she was an important part of the plan but how so? Also it was mentioned she killed Diana and Sigma in one of the timelines, which one was this and how did this happen?
After the vote, most likely. She was a crazy bitch, anon, she doesn't need a reason to kill. We are never told exactly how much she was into Zero's game.
She kills Team D in the timeline in which Team Q decided to inject Radical-6 into themselves and Diana didn't press the blue button (which, detonated a bomb). After killing Eric and wounding Sean, she wore a cloak and attacked Diana and friends before leaving the shelter.
>>344767039
I think Mira is part of the plan because she's connected to the tales Zero tells to them. Same with Eric.
Mira pretty much ruined Eric's life unknowingly. Indirectly with Sean and Akane, too.
Also Sigma's probably stupid because he seemed to be his 22-23 year old self. I don't think they mentioned him being mentally 67 in ZTD but I must have missed it.
>>344767508
Don't tell me what to do.
>>344767606
But 999 was a better version of Ever 17 in that regard especially. It felt more integrated into the game and had the advantage of justifying it's creation on the DS. Ever 17 works well as a twist but that is it. 999 works not only as a story twist, but as a way to explain literally everything about the gameplay and storytelling techniques included up to that point
>>344767497
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>>344767798
>literally wanting to become katawa shoujo 2.0
I just don't want to see this series being treated as autism shit once ZE 4 gets announced.
>>344763987
why does this poor girl keep wanting to shoot herself???
>>344767263>Zero Time Dilemma is an anigram of Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta
>>344767902
>once ZE 4 gets announced.
>>344767745
>>344767039
>Zero also mentioned she was an important part of the plan but how so?
Remember that conversation in which Mira said that if you put a piranha in a tank full of Koi, the Koi are most likely to survive due to their surviving instinct kicking in? She was the piranha of the Decision Game.
>>344767958Uchisoki didn't know. Seems like it's a coincidence.
>>344768130
>Junpei gets killed
>Akane immediately goes fucking nuts
So much for that plan.
Fuck memes.
I only played 999, can i jump into Zero Time Dilemma? Does the game make some wrap around the story so far? Because i remember there was a bunch of science mambo jambo in the first game.
>>344765010
You are the embodiment of what's fucking wrong with modern gaming
God I fucking hate you already
>>344767263
>Zero Time Dilemma if an anagram for "Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta"
HOLY FUCK. How do they even come up with this.
>>344768323
ZTD is the worst game of the series. It's not worth spoiling a better game to play.
>>344768323
ZTD is much more directly a sequel to VLR than VLR is a sequel to 999.
>>344768323
Don't fucking skip VLR.
>>344767795
He literally says "I'm 67 but my body is 22"
>>344768409
>>344768445
Ah fuck. VLR is 3DS only right? Will have to wait for it to be emulated then. Fucking sad because i was ansious to play this since i loved 999. Maybe they port VLR? What's the point of making a PC version of a sequel you can't play on PC?
>>344768693
Just wait for the PC version they announced dummy
>>344768693
>>344768693
It's also available for Vita and a PC remastered edition is on its way.
>>344768734
>>344768782
Oh great, didn't knew there was a PC remastered coming. Thanks for the news brothers, i'll wait then.
>>344768098
Man, some people are so dense. ZE4 happening despite all the issues involved with it? Nope. Never...or, at least incredibly unlikely.
>>344767039
1. They made reference to him, you just didn't notice. see >>344767263
2. He didn't have any danger to act as a catalyst for shifting.
3. She cared more about saving Phi and Sigma
4. He is referring to the timeline where Q-Team gets executed in the Decontamination room. Carlos is the one that voted differently, so he's the one that killed them.
5. Someone has to do it, shifting doesn't solve all your problems.
6. Because she's cuh-razy, I guess. She killed him in between teams waking up. She acts as the "Piranha in the Koi Tank", kind of like Dio in VLR. I don't remember which timeline/fragment, but after you are done escaping, D-Team goes back to the Lounge there is a tall hooded figure in heels, black-painted nails and a scalpel that kill Sigma and Phi.
7. Delta is making Carlos play the final Decision Game.
8. He's still the goofy person we knew in VLR, but he spent 45 years, practically alone, and now he's back with 2 people that he hasn't seen in many years, on an important mission that he doesn't know what's going on exactly. He's trying his best or something.
Anyone else find the puzzles to be really disappointing? They were all super obvious and hand holdy. VLRs were a lot more challenging.
>>344769225
>5. Someone has to do it, shifting doesn't solve all your problems.
But isnt it the case that its already done in one of the histories so it doesnt have to happen again? Transported Sigma and Phi are already here. After all, all they are trying to do is make 1 timeline where radical-6 doesnt spread and they've found it.
>>344769667
That was the timeline where she did in fact plan everything out (VLR timeline). The game was just showing you how it went down the first time. At least that's how I took it. Like how in VLR young sigma got sent back to study genetics and shit for an eternity.
>>344769614
The first one I did was the Teleporter room which was pretty tough so I though "wow they're not fucking around here".
But then the rest of the game was pretty easy.
VLR was definitely harder but a lot of the time I would get stuck on things I thought were kind of obtuse and frustrating.
>>344770007
Yeah some of the puzzles in VLR could've been cleaned up a bit/explained better. The seed germination comes to mind. But they felt much more like an actual puzzle with random hints rather than a set of instructions. The secret solutions were fun too.
I was expecting the same obtuseness and spent a lot of time way overthinking some of the puzzles and then giving in and trying the "obvious" answer and hanging my head thinking "it was actually that fucking simple"
>>344763926
>be driving in Nevada
>see this
What would you /v/?
>>344769614
That fucking jar positioning in the radical-6 room was pure shit. I used the microscope to check how many was lumped together with the chart of the screen but nope. I just went with all the combinations.
>>344771150
The microscope was for thelocker which gave you some pillswhich apparently hinted the correct order but I brute forced it, too.
daily reminder than sigma and Diana will probably still fuck and have normal twins on november 16, 2016 and we will have baby phi, 21-year old phi, and 125 year-old phi all existing at the same time
>>344764318
this is wrong. luna was engineered to have all the good parts of diana with none of the drinking problems or droopy face
>>344771548
also Sigma will recreate Luna, Kyle and Lagomorph
>>344771548
Wait a second I forgot about 125 year old phi. Is she dead?
>>344771930
yes, she was the researcher that adopted young phi
so wait am i stan lee?
>>344771290
if you had looked at the capsules in the inventory, you might have noticed that they were shaped like numbers. That was the order.
>>344767508
>just recently finish the game
>come into the threads after avoiding them for weeks
>it's already being shut down
Okay...;_;
>>344771548
>>344771684
family reunions are going to be weird, especially since we all know Carlos didn't kill Delta.
>She´s our daughter, Phi ! I love you so much, let me hug you, i will never leave you again.
>He´s our son, Delta ! Fucking piece of shit, i hope you get a cancer, i am sorry who are you again ?
How the fuck am i not supposed to be Zero´s side ?
Also guys, now it´s all over us. We can all agree that Sigma is still the strongest SHIFT-er right ?
>>344773279
Idk, carlos picked it up really quick.
>>344765781
Is there a scene after this or i am done with this game ?
>>344773279
Sean is the strongest Shifter, a robot that can even shift
>>344773279
Akane seems like she's shifted the most, and Carlos uses shifting a bunch of times in a row with pretty much perfect memory.
>>344773420
>Is there a scene after this or i am done with this game ?
There isn't.
>>344764708
Dumbest post in this thread.
What caused such a significant difference in how each decision in Biolab played out? I thought it was supposed to be the same either way?
>>344773391
>Oh fuck a robot is trying to kill me I better get the fuck out of here and formulate a plan
>Okay I've got no arm in this history but that's fine
>Time to go back
>I know I'll run away, that's my plan
A for effort I guess
>>344773420
There's some text on the files that I didn't read because I deleted the game after beating.
Doubt it's anything super interesting though.
>>344767838
I thought 999's twist sucked because it felt like they went too hard too fast with the crazy magic shit desu
Like they TALK about morphogenetic fields for the whole game and then at the very end Junpei uses it to faintly remember an eight-digit code and then ten minutes later he's fucking communicating with seven year old Akane through time and space
The whole game was more or less grounded in reality and I think that's what sets it apart from the other two. VLR and ZTD go off the rails with the alternate reality shit but that makes sense because they slowly introduce not only the concept but the idea that our heroes can actually use it for something throughout the whole game. I wanted 999's ending to be a little more grounded in reality just like the game and as cool as it was it felt out of place
Ever17 meanwhile keeps the spooky supernatural shit up for a good amount of the game so it's not as ridiculous
>>344766142
>not liking five straight days of CHICKEN SANDWICHES
Actually though other routes have their moments even if they're padded with bullshit
And Coco's route redeems everything just because it never fucking slows down
>>344766307
Still need to play but I have high hopes based on what I've heard
I thought the dating sim elements in Ever17 were kinda bullshit a lot but they also got you to give a shit about the characters and the endings were all pretty great (even if they didn't live up to Coco route hell)
I agree about claustrophobia though, I liked the atmosphere of the theme park a lot but Zero Escape edges it out there so I'm sure Remember11 will too
>>344773680
I never said he was the sharpest axe in the station.
>>344773703Junpei and Akane get engaged, Carlos is their BFF and his imouto is okay.
Mira's sociopathy gets better and she goes to jail for her crimes. She marries Eric for some reason and then Sean busts her out of jail so they can use the teleporter to stop young Mira from killing that woman.
D team get nothing but presumably Sigma gives Diana the full 18 inches every day.
Not oc but deserved a repost
I have so many fucking Zero Time Dilemma images on my hard drive this is riduclous
Is Never7 underrated or truly mediocre? I had fun with it.
>>344773463
>>344773279
>>344773441
Sean, Sigma, Phi, Carlos, Akane and probably Diana can SHIFT with perfect memories of the previous timelines. They might have picked it up at different speeds and earlier and later than others but they all are as good as they can get, no need to nitpick.
That said IIRC there are moments in VLR where Sigma and Phi shifted without being in direct danger like the Dio ending or when Sigma betrayed Phi in the AB game so there's a difference if that's correct.
>>344774007
It's very mediocre
I only enjoyed the true route, the others were pointless and Saki was utterly shit
>>344773989
How could they have fucked inside the pod when his dick is so fucking big?
>>344773992
>Carlos 2 sticking dynamite on the bunker
laffin
Seriously. Not even fucking once. Not even once did Sigma or Diana try to be nice to Delta for leaving him. They didn´t even call him a son or shit like that. While Phi got everything from them. I know this emotional bullshit but it should have been there.
I guess life is really unfair. Delta sacrificed everything. Everything to save human race. He is honorary Nuclear. No Sigma or Junpei.
>>344773992
>Mama
Every time.
>>344774061
Why is Sigma such a jobber in ZTD ? Is old Sigma a shit ?
>>344774239
>leaving him
Yes, truly the most humane thing is letting him starve (which he did anyway) together with them instead of sending him away forever and having a chance to live.
>>344774390
He lost his protagonist powers just like Junpei.
>>344774390
Not-a-main-character-anymore nerf. Spent the whole game frowning and with arms crossed.
>>344774427
Fuck you man. What was all that Phi hugging shit about then ?
>>344774239
>Delta sacrificed everything
like what?
>>344774569
The thing is, one twin was a major dick and the other was cool.
>>344774061
>moments in VLR
Does it have to be shifting tho? They could've accessed the meme field and downloaded the information.
>>344774390
He's senile. He acts like a complete retard even I the prologue.
>>344773768
I feel the datingsim elements in Ever17 were some kind of remnants of the time where most VN were datingsims so they felt compelled to put them ,even if in the end it was superflous ,except for washing machine girl. Rest could be like in most characters end in VLR without resorting to piss poor love interaction.
R11 is great but arguably fall at then end. still wortth playing
>>344774390
game is made for new players, that's why new charcters are the ones that get shit done
same reason why Sigma was changed from being the playable character to Diana
>>344774518
>Sigma you have to jump to that shelter, figure it out and save every human on the planet
>all he did was fuck a crazy readhead
Is this some termites philosophy bullshit i am missing again ?
>>344774239
>saved humanity
>the man who literally gave himself an acid bath because he was curious had like twenty years to find the religious fanatic who starts a nuclear war and decided the best option was to just cause the Apocalypse and have a 75 percent chance of killing him
These motives............. almost....... TOO complex................
>>344774569
he kept killing them over and over
>yeah son, I get you shot me in the back with a shotgun, put an explosive collar on me, made me live 45 years of hell, put me in an acid shower etc. but come here I still love you for reasons!
>>344774767
>i will save Q team
>hands blasted off
>lost eye
>Q team dead
I think you might be right. He was senile the whole game. He probably didn´t do anything because he didn´t remember how.
Posting best track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GveSKpeanh8
>>344774853
By fucking Diana he created Delta who saved the world with his complex motives. Sigma's sperm was incredibly important.
>>344767172
ALIEN
>>344774948
>>344774895
No, no shit like that. But i don´t know at least acknowledge him as his son. "Oh you are Delta". See ? Is that so hard ?
>>344774895
>quantum computer calculates that you have 0% chance of catching the fanatic
>try it anyway
Please. Delta isn't a retard like his father.
>>344774802
>game is made for new players,
The game doesn't explain shit. When Carlos asks what the morphogentic field is after it's casually mentioned Junpei just shrugs at him.
All the info is there so new players can play but it's not made for them.
>>344775043
Young Sigma sperm would've worked just as well. Old Sigma was a mistake.
>>344775000
>Q team dead
only part of it
>>344775181
that's the true ending tho, where he puts faith in other people so either he is a retard or the quantum computer sucks
>>344774390
>>344774767
Akane deliberately trained him wrong as a joke
>>344775000
>DIANA WE CAN'T DEFUSE THE BOMB IT'LL TAKE TOO LONG (proven by Game Over screen)
>They all run back towards the Lounge
>WAIT
>I'M GOING TO DEFUSE THE BOMB
If Sigma didn't know how to SHIFT he would probably have died faster than 9th Man in this game desu
I just finished it an hour ago
I'm so fucking disappointed. I loved 999 and VLR and ZTD just ended up being a total mess. From the writing, to the story's presentation and execution, to some of the most retarded 'twists' I've seen in any medium
What the fuck happened?
>>344772969
Life is simply unfair
>>344775252
but the morphogenetic field was useless in this game, when did they even use it?
>>344774767
>Does it have to be shifting tho? They could've accessed the meme field and downloaded the information.
You're probably right for most Sigma examples I can think of.
But when Sigma betrayed Phi she definitely shifted to the true route to betray Sigma. The thing is when she shifted she still had a couple of points left and she knocked out Sigma who was the only character with 9 points, She wasn't in any (immediate) danger and was just upset.
It makes sense for Phi to be the most powerful SHIFTer because of her brother's epigenetic manipulation.
>>344775359
Because the computer calculated that 7 shifters, 1 retard, a serial killer, and a dog would be able to stop the fanatic, duh.
R6 was just a failsafe.
>>344775010
idk I liked these a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9QQjrKs4nM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GC0sVeQiLE
So young mom killed was Eric´s mom, man who was accused of it and his wife who killed herself because of it are Akane´s parents and the kid who died because of doctor dead is Delta´s adoptive brother.
Is that correct ?
>>344775590
Whenever a character "just knows" a password.
So they do all of this to create one timeline where radical 6 breakout doesn't happen. Putting it into perspective with all the shifting stuff going on, worse case scenario is that they will ALWAYS be able to create a timeline where whatever bad shit happens won't happen because they can always shift back to the past to create a new timeline.
>>344775490
Tried to top VLR. Crashed and burned.
>>344775643
Didn't that Phi go through ZTD ? It would explain why she's decent at shifting already.
>>344775590
Right at the end, they got their memories of all the timelines because they downloaded it through the field.
>>344774792
Yeah, I can see that.
I've heard the game just kind of... ends. Like out of the blue. Apparently they ran out of money, right?
I've heard there are enough hints/notes online to decipher how the VN was originally supposed to end, though. And I've played through the Zero Escape franchise so I'm used to disappointing endings.
>>344775252
>We want to appeal to new players
>Then why is the central conflict and the reason a third of the people are there barely explained and all but requires knowledge of the past game
>And why are the events of 999 only barely hinted at
>Well we want it to be for franchise fans too
>THEN WHY DO NONE OF THEM INTERACT OUTSIDE OF THE CHARACTERS WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THEM INTERACT WITH
>WHERE IS THE PHI AND JUNPEI BANTER
>AND WHY DO ALL THE OLD CHARACTERS SUCK NOW
>AND WHY DOES IT END WITH SOME OPEN-ENDED MGS2 BULLSHIT
desu I can't even really be mad at the game, I don't want to excuse Uchikoshi's inherent hack-ness but it's obvious he tried and the budget just wasn't there. The fucking visuals are the obvious indicator (every fucking close up on Diana oh my god) but it seems like the game is building up to something huge and then in Apocalypse when Zero first mentions the terrorist it starts to feel like it's rushing towards the end and there's a lot of stuff missing.
The Quantum Computer should have played a bigger role than just being there for Sean. And there should have been a final puzzle room. And ofc Kyle and Left and ? were never really explained.
I just hope someday we find out how it was supposed to end.
>>344775980
>WHERE IS THE PHI AND JUNPEI BANTER
Explain.
>>344775742
The kid who died was just some random kid Delta knew and was friends with when he was in the hospital. He made Sean so that in some way the kid could have a second chance at life
>>344776124
Not him but i would have loved to see things like "ah, so you're Tenmyoldy, right ?"
>>344775673
If the quantum computer could do that it could easily find the terrorist too
>>344776124
Best part of 999 puzzle rooms is Junpei's dialogue with the others imo
And best part of VLR is Phi and Sigma arguing all the time but when they're in groups of three or split off from each other they're still hilarious
Whereas here
>Phi spends the whole game dead
>Sigma spends the whole game with his arms crossed
>Junpei spends the whole game bickering with Akane
>They never interact outside of like two scenes
tbf Sigma had some great scenes here and there but I wanted to see the teams get switched up and see how edgelord Junpei and Phi got along, or seeing how Phi and Sigma acted around him knowing what he was like in the future
It just feels like such a missed opportunity that they brought back the two main characters from each game and then they just stuck them in two opposite ends of the shelter never to speak to each other
>>344775980
>I've heard the game just kind of... ends. Like out of the blue. Apparently they ran out of money, right?
Probably. And you're right ,there is like a bazillion of hints ,hidden in bad ends or behind inconspicuous choices that gives a lot more meat to the story ,but the relative complexity of what they were aiming for makes it for the people that didn't read pages of fan theory quite cryptic.And it doesn't help that the last scene actually ends with a cliffhanger ,but the explanation is hinted elsewhere
If you throw in a dozens of analogies ,metaphors and all it gets very complicated to get a clear image of the game
>>344776317
There wasn´t even enough Phi i think.
Now riddle me this guys. Only good shot of her ass in that tight clothing lying down was when her head was blasted off.
How am i supposed to masturbate to this ?
>>344773992
Oh cool I drew that last night, I'm glad everyone seems to like it, considering I had no idea how to end it until I got to the second-to-last panel.
Here's the first one for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
I thought Sigma was acting retarded o hide that he's really old but then Diana reveals Sigma immediately said he's from future to everyone way back at Dcom
>>344776529
That description fits with Sigma as well.
>>344776427
I just wanted to see Phi and Akane making fun of Sigma for being a Zero. But i get you too.
>>344776432
Oh, wow. That does suck.
I'll play through it anyway but I'll be prepared to have to go through and really dig into it plus whatever fans have put together.
>>344775490
>some of the most retarded 'twists' I've seen in any medium
The twist with the different wards was what got me
Like it was pretty crazy to see the wall just collapse and go blank the first time but then what? It lets them get together at the end of the game, I guess. And it got pretty weird when they were all arguing over which ward they were in. But for all intents and purposes it showed up too late in the story to really do anything and they never went to any of the other rooms except the Quantum Computer Dome (seriously use the pantry Sigma and Diana you dumb fucks you literally spend 45 years preparing to take information from other timelines and you can't even grab a fucking map)
>>344775712
Yeah, those are good too. Despite being largely remixes, ZTD had a really good soundtrack.
>>344775092
>okay, Akane. How do Alice and I go back to the past?
>you will use this alien transporter, but it will only create a copy of yourselves that will go back to the past. You two will still remain here to rot forever.
>...
>>344777029
This series is a comedy gold. You all understood it wrong.
>>344777029
why didn't they send a vial of Alexavir and the instruction to replicate it, Future Akane could have just sent the formula to young akane and avoid the pandemic
>A solid wood countertop several feet thick isn't enough to stop four miniguns but two idiots loosely throwing themselves on top of Akane are
truly one of the greatest masterpieces of our generation
>>344776529
I can't breathe
>>344777203
because Akane doesn't have the ayylien transporter in VLR
>>344773664
delta was lying
the other virus is an anagram for fabrication
>>344777412
I mean through her powers.
she can send information about kidnpanning Alice, Clover, Sigma etc. and all the other stuff with a little training and if the plot wanted I am sure she could have sent that information too
>>344776529
Gab getting shot was actually the funniest moment in the game
Like not only was it hilariously out of the blue but whereas everyone is just kind of like "oh god" when a person dies, when they see Gab dead Diana immediately starts screaming and everyone yells about what a monster he is
>>344776385
It's retarded, but that's how it is. We also have to ignore how no one is searching for the fanatic.
>send 45 years planning to save the earth
>obtain new information about a bigger threat
>go to the beach and/or play hiuse
We are supposed to be okay with these.
>>344777029
Make copies of yourself with the transporter
SHIFT to your new copies
There you have it.
>>344777672
Caring more about cute pets than human lives is a very real thing.
>>344777770
>dumb and dumber can suddenly shift
>Delta the mastermind that spent his whole life preparing for ZTD is stuck in his old body forever
Life is simply unfair
>>344777863
I'd never understand this feel. Are people that stupid or what?
>>344777672
You're forgetting no one had died in that timeline.
And Phi has a meltdown when Diana shoots Sigma, then Diana shoots herself.
>>344778038
We're already too used to human deaths. Pets dying is the epitome of killing pure innocence. Almost like murdering a kid.
>>344774390
>Old Sigma doesn't talk about termites at all
Biggest disappointment of the game.
>>344760762
Sooo, can I play this if I have never played the other two?
>>344778381
Even Junpei made a funiyarinpa comment. Sigma not doing his signature meme was a mistake.
>>344764157
Jesus christ, actually look at the Flow chart sometime, that's not a fucking ending.
>>344778423
Yes.
>>344778584
Trust me pal. It is. There is no need for you to get your hopes up with "?" segment.
>>344778423
This game is like Mass Effect 3, a perfect jumping point for new players
>>344778423
It will turn you off the series though. Objectively the worst of the trilogy.
>>344778690
We're not talking about the sequel hook, we're talking about the parts in VLR where the game tells you "you don't have enough information, come back to this route later"
>>344775742
No, Sean was just a very gifted young kid that Delta took an interest in. I think it was implied somewhere that since Brother could read minds he was fond of children because they weren't old enough to be corrupted yet or something like that. Sean seemed exceptionally sweet and well-meaning so building a robot after him was probably Delta's way of paying tribute and giving him another chance (but apparently mind hacking the snail was too much).
>>344777203
Carlos-B knocked out the Transporter for 10 whole months before the Decision Game, and Delta had it in his possession since 2009.
>>344778539
>Even Junpei made a funiyarinpa comment.
Shame it felt very forced.
>>344778753
>>344778869
Fuck. OK then.
I don't have a 3ds so I guess I'll pass altogether.
>>344776140
>>344778932
But rest is correct, right ?
>>344779012
>>344778539
Sigma did the cat puns, but I'm pretty sure Junpei didn't mention the Funyarinpa in the japanese version.
>>344779181
>Japanese version
English version is pretty much the main version for the series now. Japan truly doesn't care
>>344779181
>cat puns
>hey guys how do we make our character to be more funny
>did you see that funny cat mayme on the internet ?
Please tell me this isn´t the only reason why this was in VLR.
>>344779531
Weebs are gonna weeb.
Post more Carlos memes.inb4 "The Fuck?!?"
>>344779531
VLR's dub was surprisingly decent.
ZTD was disappointing in my opinion, so I played it with Japanese voices.
>>344779804
>>344779713
It was to make Sigma more wacky.
Uchi literally didn't even know we used the term "meme" like we use nowadays. We recently taught him that on twitter. Actually expect later games of his to be even more memey.
>>344779883
Jap Junpei was really, really good. When he started screaming at Carlos to push the button. That was some shit. Sean and Eric were also a top notch.
>>344773992
>I have so many fucking Zero Time Dilemma images on my hard drive this is riduclous
Tell me about it.
>>344779883
I loved Phi in VLR's dub but her delivery in English felt weird in ZTD imo
I wonder if there was a different voice director or if they just fell out of the role after not reprising it for so long.
>>344779804
Surprised nobody posted that
>>344776729
Their intel told them Brother was super old during 999 times already. And Sigma's body is not old.
>>344780284
>Eric being in the pic for no other reason than holding a shotgun
Keks were had.
>>344780284
>Carlos
>American
>Sister name is maria
He's definitely south american, the last bastion of whites in the world.
>>344780704
t. Argentinian
>>344776510
Factually incorrect.
>>344780169
Did Uchi win ? He knew people wanted to fap to scenes like this so he did this.
It was his last checkmate.
>>344777559
>just straight up lying
What the fuck, why does Delta gotta be such a dick? So they injected themselves with R6? But Mira didn't kill herself afterwards, she just killed everyone else, that's why I thought the FBR thing might be true.
>Hey Mira remember when you were born a psychopath, never able to produce any emotions whatsoever ?
>yeah we cured it
Those end game notes, i swear.
>>344779159
Yes, as far as we know.
>>344777559
So this means there are Two timelines where Rad-6 gets out right?
>>344776510
>He doesn't enjoy guro
Your loss. I'm fapping just thinking of it.
>>344780110
Yeah, they were good. Eric's seiyuu was Akira Ishida. I enjoy his work.
Wait a minute. I just remembered. What happened to Chris ? Did Eric murder him, his father ? Did Eric bury him or what ?
Am I the only one who thinks 999 not having a flowchart was actually good in some ways? In VLR when I picked a door to go through it didn't have as much impact, because I knew I could just warp back to that decision tree and choose again any time I wanted.
However, in 999, when I chose a door it really felt permenant, like it does for the characters in the game. For example, when I chose Door 3 for the first time I freaked out and felt the weight of the decision I had just made and knew I was going to carry it with me until the end. This was also on my first playthough so I didn't know the doors all lead back to the same place and I would meet up with everyone else again. Moments like that really make 999 stand out in the series for me.
>>344780994
She did not deserve any kind of good ending whatsoever. What was Uchi thinking?
>>344779804
>>344776510
there wasn't enough phi in comparison to all the other characters because everyone else had shifting or transporter plotlines and phi never did cause she was dead.
>>344781315
Think it was implied that his father beat him to death and had eric hide the body in a lake during winter
>>344781275
He´s good.
>>344776510
Paste a head on her?
Crop the images to hide the missing head?
>>344781320
I agree, but I would have at least liked the option to skip escape rooms you've already completed.
>>344781320
In that way, yes, but I would rather have the convenience than having to replay the game over.
>>344781514
The memory is still there anon.
>>344781315
What this anon said >>344781421 , except his father didn't beat him to death, he strangled him, hence why Eric lost it when he realized Mira died that same way during that timeline.
>>344777684
the akane junpei epilogue says breaking keys is busy looking for the fanatic and they're not supposed to get married til they stop it. carlos also mentions they'll call him up when they need to.
>>344781631
>damn brat
>he was repeating history
>>344781275
He's great at pretty much anything. Here's him screaming in a badass way instead of deranged like Eric
https://youtu.be/ISJA3tOx7Ns?t=138
Good stuff.
>>344781343
>Fucking Delta, you deserve to rot in hell for killing us, even though you are our son.
>Yeah, you cool Mira, even though you killed me, my wife and my daughter.
Just another proof of Sigma´s advanced senility in ZTD.
>>344781805
Go easy on him, anon. He had a hard life.
