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You heard me, ZTD thread.

Don't worry... I won't spoil you.
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>>344724867
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First for MINDHACK
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>>344724867
CARLOS IS THE KILLER

MUH SNAILS

MUH ALTERNATIVE TIMELINES
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>>344724867
post yfw ZE4 trailer
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>>344724867
I've run out of questions and I have nothing good/bad/interesting to say about ZTD that hasn't already been said so I am just going to leave these threads. Its been great. Goodbye.
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>>344725241
I post no image because ZTD didn't make nearly enough for a new game
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>>344725362
>just noticed the tear
Fuck, man...
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>>344725241
Where would it even take place?
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Polls:

Thoughts on ZTD?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/

What should Uchi work on next?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10682237/
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>>344725594
Hell.
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>tfw new dream is to make visual novel
>tfw no artistic skill atm
>tfw no coding skill atm
>tfw no musical skill atm
I think I have good plot/gameplay ideas but they may also be shit who knows


Where do I even begin /v/
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>>344724867
>Starting the thread with Carlos
I love him but there's a such thing as too much Carlos, op. ;_;
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>>344725674
pull an NHK
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>>344725674
>>tfw no artistic skill atm
That didn't stop Ryukishi07
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>>344725713
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>>344725674
Ren'Py requires coding but it's actually pretty simple if you look up some tutorials. Though I always had trouble getting custom menus and shit to work.
There's also this program called TyranoBuilder that seemed pretty shit at launch but might've gotten better by now.


As far as everything else goes, it's tough to go completely indie when it comes to music and art if you don't have the talent for it. You could always go for minimalistic art, which I've seen work out well for some VNs (the old school Night of the Sickle Weasel comes to mind).
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>>344725646
>No "He should stop producing content altogether" option

This poll is rigged.
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>>344725674
You're pretty much going to have learn one of those things and recruit other people.
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>>344725830
BE GONE DIRTY WHORES!
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Who was the best breast lady? Lotus, Alice or Mira?
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>>344726169
>not including Phi
Anon... she has Ds
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>>344726169
Lotus > Mira >>>>> Alice

Lotus was the best character in 999 though, so it's not really fair comparing her to"Ok in a pile of shit" Mira and "Mummified garbage" Alice.
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>>344725674
So make an interactive text fiction with basic or no illustrations. You just can't be too stupid to code this after you put in some hours of effort to learn at the very least - if those few hours are a problem in the overall scope of the project, what good is the rest?

Or just write a web novel.

If it's good enough, maybe it becomes a visual novel.
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>>344725594
Post-ZTD, pre-VLR, at the FtS meeting that Akane was invited to.
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>>344726415
>Goes to weird cult meeting
>Another deadly game
>Lies to Sigma about it again

Fuck, I hate Akane. Even hypothetical Akane.
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>>344726497
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>>344725940
fucking blueballing akane
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8z9yogpeUA

Let's reminisce .
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>>344725940
K/Akane was worst K by the way
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>>344725480
I don't get it. Why is Kyle tiny?
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>>344725674
Tell me your ideas, anon.
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ZTD is responsible for making me laugh at snails.
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>>344726869
DAMN
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>>344726869
DAMN BRAT
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>>344726869
Second trailer is so much better.
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>>344726169
Clover
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>>344726869
Trailer 2 was even more hype.
>"Don't worry...I won't die."
Was waiting for that line to drop all game.
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>>344727007
when does he even choke sean?
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>>344727172
When he thinks he killed Mira
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>>344727172
Pod Room, after Sean is happy about having enough X-passes to escape
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Do I have to play the previous zero games to play this one?
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>>344726169
Judged by looks, right? Mira.
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Can someone explain the quantum computer to me? Is it just calculating every possible outcome or does it somehow exist outside the timelines and can therefore see them all?
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>>344726378
>Lotus was the best character in 999 though
I've got nothing against Lotus, but that seems pretty generous.
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>>344727329
lol i posted it again
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>>344727329
You really should start with the older games, yes.
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>>344725480
i don't get it. isn't delta his son?
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>>344727348
Calculates all possible outcomes.
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>>344727329
I cant tell if that question is serious
yeah, you fucking do
Honestly, I believe the game is nearly worthless tos omeone who hasnt played the previous games.
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>>344726869
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>>344727348
>The universe. This quantum computer contains all of the infinite number of realities within space. Let's suppose there's someone, somewhere, who can fully operate the program. Perhaps he'll find that he can traverse the universe.
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>>344727642
>Q
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>>344727520
So Sean couldn't even shift then, he just died every time and calculated what might have happened in some other timeline.
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>>344726334
Anon... I... She was lying
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>Just realized that Donnie Darko SHIFTED
Huh
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>>344726869
That music is sexy as hell.
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>>344727754
He can shift because he has a "heart", as he points out to Zero in one of the fragments.
Even in the true ending you see his blue orb falling from the sky too
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>>344727712
It was made before the game came out, before the dark days of mind hacks and complex motives.
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>>344725241
>30k combined sales

anon it ain't getting a sequel.
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>>344727754
No, that's not true. The quantum computer is his version of the morphogenetic field and functions identically for him
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>>344727912
I was actually disappointed when I first heard it
I was hoping to hear some new amazing music, not just a Pantry remix
Shame most of the OST was just as disappointing...
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This game felt like a Kickstarter game.
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>finally get the end
>the credits is still just the same depressing tune as the other endings

fuck that shit we did it, here's a real time bending ending song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-vucvV7gS0
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>>344728049
Trash Disposal was pretty good. Tough Decision too.
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>>344727817
Are you bullshiting me?
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>>344728404
It pretty much was, barely coming together all for the sake of the fans who desperately wanted it. It just skipped over the part where tons of people over hype to hell and spend way too much funding it.
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>>344728468
and Extreme Urgency
It was just a bit sad to hear so many slight remixes of old tracks instead of a lot of new cool tracks
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>>344727650
Couldn't Delta use that to find the terrorist? Why does he need a team of superheroes if he has all possible realities at his fingertips?
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After buying ZTD I don't think I'll buy another game again.
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>>344728049
>Actual OST
>Disappointing
wew lad
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>>344727970
>Even in the true ending you see his blue orb falling from the sky too
What the fuck, is that true? He pulled off a Pinocchio?
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>>344728472
I... It wasn't me
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>>344728671
That's what I thought after MGSV. But then I decided to buy ZTD. Next games I will buy are Persona 5, Nier 2, and DR v3. Then I will never need to buy another video game again.
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Why did Delta kill Mira?

Why did Delta kill and dismember Junpei?

Why does nobody grab the gun off Eric and beat him silly with it?

Why don't Carlos, Junpei and Akane have a 3way?

I can't remember why Luna was a robot in VLR, can someone remind me?
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>>344728734
Some way if you pull off Sean's helmet after the Best End, you'll find a human skull on the top of his robot neck.
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>>344728890
C O M P L E X
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>>344728049
Best OST of the three games man. How was it disappointing?
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>a fucking quantum computer, a strange alien device, other bodies of Sean, a lot of shotguns and other weapons including multiple bombs and gallons of acid can all be loaded into one truck
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>>344728629
Where's the complexity in that?
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>>344729012
One truck, many timelines?
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>>344728853
Nice bait Unless this is real, in that case Anon... I...
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>>344727124
Pretty sure he says that actually.
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>>344729154
He does, right before Eric shoots him
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>>344729154
He does I just meant I was anticipating the line as soon as I booted the game up.
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Post your chicken scratch notbooks if you made one while playing the game.
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>>344729148
why would it be b8, m8
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>>344729137
10/10
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>>344728994
Mainly because of the all slight remixes, but I just found a few of the tracks to be forgettable, and Carlos's theme just seemed out of place.
Once the complete OST gets released I'll give the full thing a listen through and see if my opinion changes.
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>>344729137

> the 2nd dio in the back planting a bomb
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>>344729427
There's a rip on Youtube already.
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>>344729275
I just had the memo on my phone open for that.
There's one part that reads

>11.16.2029
>Delta
>Phi GOD DAMN IT
>GOD DAMN IT ALL THEY WERE RIGHT
>I HATE YOU /V/

After a listing made up of "Manmoonmoon triple moon manman star flower" and other alien card game details.
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>>344729090
Goddamn it, sometimes the best answer is simple.
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>>344728890
He did say why he killed Mira because she was a murderer and he was just giving her due justice. Not the exact phrasing.
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>tfw you FINALLY got your pre order from Amazon
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Hey... just so you know, I plan on picking Ally.
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>>344729303
Anon... I
>Persona 5
>Dub only
>Nier 2
>Shitty localisation team
>DRV3
>is Danganronpa

/v/ is already ready to tear this games to shreds and have them be unmitigated disasters. That doesn't mean they will mind. Plus, there are gonna be more good games after them anyway. Just wait for ZE4
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>>344729734
Does it come with bonus shit for being late?
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>>344728890


Mira killed and dismembered Junpei. Delta killed her afterwards presumably because he didn't like that. In other timeline she went and killed D team so presumably she was acting someone independently.

Because movie standoff.

>he didn't see the fireplace scene

Sigma made her likeness and personality into a robot after knowing her for 3 years on the moon. It took him 25 years to build her and the other gaulems.
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>>344729012
Where did he buy all that shit
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>>344729798
I got $10 off my next order.
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>>344729836
World War II?
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>>344727348
I think it is stated that it is a means to "access" to all possible timelines at will.

But Sean -the actual program running on it- says that he is jumping between histories just like humans could.

It doesn't seem to me like Sean can actually exhaustively collect data or do computations on all of the *infinite* timelines.
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>>344729798
They gave us a $10 storewide credit, aksys has claimed they are going to do something to make up for it as well but so far no solid info has been released.
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>>344729275
I had a bunch of sticky notes and cue cards I was writing on but I threw them out.
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>>344730021
>sticky notes
L-lewd
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>>344729275
Yours looks way neater than mine. I'm too embarrassed to show it because most of it was just to remember shit that I'm sure most were able to do in their head.
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>>344728734
There are 9 orbs as you can see, and before someone says something Delta and Gab were already dead before everyone shifted
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>>344729898
Th-thanks, Amazon...
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>>344729778
>Atlus said they will consider Jap audio dlc
>Nier 2 is still going to have weird Taro shit
>not wanting to play as Despair Raiden
>ZE4 existing ever
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>>344729836
Delta uses Free The Soul's information network and the knowledge he's gained through Mind Hacking in order to travel to the homes of winning bidders on eBay, Mind Hack them to prevent them from placing their winning bid, then outbid them at the precise moment to secure his victory in the auction.
Repeating this process has allowed Delta to accumulate unholy amounts of junk and raw materials.
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>>344730085

No, it's fine. No one knows who you are, anon.
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>>344730207
>Delta MINDHACC's through the Internet
He would be a great shitposter
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>>344730207
That's a pretty complicated plan.
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>>344728629
I really wish they didn't introduce the whole religious fanatic angle. Anyone with half a brain in that writing room should have immediately dismissed how ridiculous it is for everything in this series to have happened because of how supposedly cunning and calculated his moves are, but he can't find that single person.
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>>344729772
I believe you, friend.
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>>344730371
Complex plans for the complex man of a complex age.
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>>344729778
Nier 2 is getting localized by the same people who localized the first one dumbass. Congrats for falling for Nichegamers alarmist bullshit.
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>>344730180
I know. For what it's worth I don't care about the Persona dub or the Nier localisation, considering it's the same team as the first game. Danganronpa is still a shit though. I'll be interested to see the fresh new start of V3 regardless. Are we sure it doesn't tie into Junko's despair fungames? Also, ZE4 is pic related
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>>344730405
What the hell are you smoking, Carlos? Pick betray.
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>>344730440
Anon... I... See >>344730460
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>>344729772
>Pssh...Nothin personnel kid
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Who is a better representative of America in this game?
Carlos or Eric?
Keep in mind that wanting to fuck your sister is worse than shooting people with a shotgun.
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can all the nier redditors leave? no one cares about OMG TARO IS SO AMAZING! SUCH TWISTED STORIES XD here

we like good writing here, not just shit built around shock value
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>>344730979
>we like good writing here
I can tell you're just baiting people to mock ZTD, so I won't do it.
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>>344730092
>delta actually made something with a goddamn soul
>still couldn't make him a proper head
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>>344731037
ZTD is still miles better than any drakengard game
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>>344731071
His neck is a bunch of ports. He probably had more heads planned out for Sean
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>>344730858
But Carlos wants to fuck Junpei, not his sister.
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1/2
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>>344731071
but you see, Sean is a snail, the head represents the shell
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2/2
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>>344730979
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999 vn style mod for ztd when?
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>>344731247
No no
The player is the snail, without him none of this would have happened
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>>344730979
are you triggered?
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>>344729772
That bullshit was even more bullshit in ZTD
I can see your fucking screen Junpei!
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>preorder watch edition from amazon
>gets delayed
>couple days later get an email saying they'll separate the order so I'll get the watch later
>ok whatever, expect game in like 2 days
>WEEK LATER
>game finally shipped
>still no info on watch
At least I got 10 whole amazonfunbucks out of it
Anyone know what the fuck is going on?
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>>344731472
That's why they had to do it at identical times
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>>344731472
I really like the idea of Carlos leaning over swapping between looking at Junpei and the screen while Junpei sweats buckets.
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>>344729824

Mira killed Junpei? When the fuck did it explain that? I've played through every timeline 100% and must've missed that particular revelation.
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>>344730460
>are we sure it doesn't tie in?
Kodaka said it was a fresh start and in the Anime, Monokuma even says it's the end of Naegi and their story.

Kodaka if you pull some Junko bullshit again I swear to god.
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>>344731232
Wait, did I miss something when I played the game or is this just a meme? I don't remember Carlos wanting to fuck Junpei.
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>>344729824
> Mira killed and dismembered Junpei.
She killed Junpei.

But I think Zero had him dismembered and set up. Apparently 'cause it's puzzle time.
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>Alice busts my ass because I can't remember that code to decipher
>Says she has no use for useless men
???
???????
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>>344731695
It's just a joke about Carlos, Junpei and Akane being super BFFs forever after the game
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>in the pantry
>ohohohoh look at this OBVIOUSLY FAKE BODY PART
>good one zero!
seriously nigga
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>>344731754
>Math wizz
>She needs an old man to solve a simple cipher
More proof Alice is worst character
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>>344731656
Delta tells Sean and Eric that she killed Junpei so he killed her.
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>>344731687
I know. I didn't love the first two, but a legit fresh start could make me love this.
I swear if he pulls that bullshit I'll not be surprised, just disappointed
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>>344731695
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>>344731932
>he ties it into ZE
That would be fucking awesome. The cult leader was actually Junko all along.
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>>344732031
>Junko was just MINDHACKED
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>>344731656
Q-End:2. The Zero reveal near the very end of the game.
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>>344732031
>Danganronpa takes place in the timeline where 8 billion died
Pls no. That's so bad, but at the same time it's now an unofficial headcanon
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>>344731656
In the Q fragment after you input Zero's name, he explains it and he also pulls down his turtle neck to show the scratch marks Mira left when he killed her. I really thought the alien hand talk with D-team was foreshadowing Mira strangling herself though.
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>>344732031
>>344732152

>radical-6 makes people fall into despair
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>>344731695
It was a throwaway joke when they were in the decontamination chamber I think, Junpei says Carlos is acting interested in him and Carlos says he has no time for romance because he only ever thinks about his sister.
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>>344732256
>Delta and the ZTD cast are the founders of the Future Foundation.
So bad yet sooo good
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>>344732152
>Dangan Escape
>Zero Junko Reward
>9 Hours, 9 Students, 9 Bears
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>>344731589
before they decided to pry their heads out of their ass and ship the game separately. Amazon was quoting the second week of August as the earliest possible date for the watch replacements.
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>>344731589
>finally shipped
They said mine would ship last week, then that Friday and now it's just gone.

Good thing I got it on Steam or I'd be going fucking nuts.
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>second week of August
what the fuck even happened
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>>344731397
Phi is the snail.
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>>344732594
they got fucking destroyed is what

Honestly, August seems pretty amazing. I can't imagine how much this hurt their budget.
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>>344732475
>Zero Hope Dilemma
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>Grandpa Anon is an anagram of Danganronpa
Huh
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>>344732594
Aksys didn't package the watches correctly so they got damaged (no one has said in what way they were damaged spece), so they needed to be sent back to the manufacturer for repairs/replacement.
Note that while we have to wait at least two months for our watch after having them pre orderded for a year, aksys evidently had enough on hand to just straight up sell them at whatever con it was they just attended.
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>>344732256
>>344732475
In all honesty, the future part of the anime sounds pretty similar to ZTD
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>>344731231
>somewhere deep in the caverns of the shelter an assortment of heads was stashed but never used including a dinosaur head, a gold head, a mickey mouse head, and a funyarinpa head
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>>344732845
Those were also damaged as well. Mine had cracks on it.
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>>344731231
>Seanbots equipped with replica heads of the cast complete with voice synthesizers
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>>344732434
>Zero Escape:Another Episode: Absolute Dilemma Girls
>Diana and Phi instead of Komaru and Fukawa
>Diana shooting robot Seans
>Phi going Matrix
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>>344733915
Pls. Stop. It makes me cringe. I hope ZE never gets whored out to the extent Danganronpa does. And that V3 is good
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Who would be the first to fall into DESPAIR?

I vote for Eric
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>>344734131
Eric would try killing Sean and make it look like Q did it. Q's ruse would be revealed (like Genocide Jack), but Eric would be killed
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>>344734131
9th Man
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>>344729824
>Delta killed her afterwards presumably because he didn't like that.

dude what

>Mira kills junpei just because
>Delta makes a puzzle out of junpei body
>then he kill mira because she was killing people
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>aksys booth at Anime expo had 300 watches to sell
>originally had them at $50
>raised it to $60 after an hour

fucking jews.
I ended up not getting one since I already had it preordered on amazon.
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>>344734452
>raised to 60
Holy shit. Good thing I was one of the first people.

That and I got a sweet shirt.
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>>344725674
I know the feeling, I want to work on a VN project after finishing ZTD but doing one (well) on your own requires such a broad range of talents.
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>>344726334
>Someone saved my draw
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So, how are you supposed to enjoy this the best, following one team's timeline at a time or alternating between teams?
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>>344731589
You should do what I do and complain every day. they gave me a shiton of 10 bucks even refunded me on a entirely separate order. bunch of clueless call center cs reps. Thanks aksys.
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>>344730180
>>ZE4 existing ever
ZE4 kickstarter incoming.
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If you had to name your child a greek letter, what would it be for a female or a male.

It can't be kappa.
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>>344734989
you took it from the premium booklet asshole and just color and clean it a bit
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>>344735498
>Male
tau
>female
chi
Not great but whatever
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>>344735498
Iota, Mu, and Tau would be good for either gender.
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>>344735498
>It can't be kappa.
Why not? They could have prosperous future as a Twitch streamer with that name.
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>>344734525
they were still giving out shirts but the raise in price was stupid. and it wasnt because it was selling out fast.
they still had plenty left and they still raised it.
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>>344735841
They ran out of shirts the first or second day but still had watches halfway into the second day and I can see why now.

The watch isn't that bad but the screw paint comes off WAY too easily.
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>>344735498
>Male
Psi
>Female
Chi-chi
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>>344735498
Male Sigma
Female Phi

I've become biased towards these names due to this series and Sigma from Megaman X
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>>344724867
Carlos should have been brother

he is way too boring
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>>344735498
>No Imagination tier
Alpha, Beta, Pi, Omega, Psi
>Nerd Tier
Zeta, Lambda, Omicron, Delta, Tau
>Literally who tier
Eta, Mu, Nu, Rho, Xi
>not shit tier
Gamma, Iota, Epsilon, Chi
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>>344735498
beta
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>>344736223
I was really expecting Carlos to have some importance in the world of VLR instead of literally nothing. Personally, my money was on Kyle/?.

I was hoping that Eric would turn out to have a split personality and Sean was a prototype Dio.
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>>344736426
>Gamma
>not shit tier
Beside that it isn't awful
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>tfw you will never be hyped for this game again
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>>344737208
>they only other game you can bring yourself to get hyped up over won't be released until 2077
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In Biolab, was Q team actually injected with anything or did it change depending on what they chose like Zero said? Was it all a ruse to convey a metaphor or what?
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>>344725674
A little late perhaps, but Ren'py is a pretty popular way to get into making visual novels. It's relatively easy since it's targeted to people who might not have prior programming experience. Python itself is also one of the easiest programming languages to learn, so some things that may require coding are intuitive.

In my opinion, music can be an afterthought until the script is written. The importance of art varies with genre, where a romance visual novel would definitely require artistic skills while some other genre may not. Since you have neither skill in both, you will probably outsource this to people who do.

Having made a visual novel in Ren'py before, I think script writing is a huge challenge because it is easy to lose motivation. Implementing uncommon/undesirable game mechanics might give you a bit of trouble as well.
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>>344736223
Brother? Why would that be interesting?

Let's lay down the facts: many of the characters are written boringly and poorly. Even if he was Brother, it was a given that the reveal would just have a few minutes of shitty exposition, Free the Soul would still be a joke, and thus the whole thing would come off as another asspull, anyway.

I'll concede and say that it'd probably still be better than the Delta/Zero/Brother reveal. That's it.
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>>344738238
>still be better than the reveal we got
At least the reveal we got doesn't actively contradict the other games, but just ignores them. That would've been some hot bullshit Uchi jammed down our throats
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>>344736223

He should have been another Delta sent to the future from 1904 just like it happened to Phi
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>>344738494
I could've lived with that. That would've been pretty cool, unlike most of the bullshit people spew in these threads
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>>344729137
This really pissed me off. How do you move a fucking large time travel machine, an extreme shitload of complex traps, a quantum computer and a room full of robot kids? It's literally impossible. I'd rather believe he's full of shit and he also has the ability to SHIFT, so that's why there would be nine souls here >>344730092
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>>344738684
He said they were out for a long time. Realistically, he could keep knocking them out and wiping their memories over and over and over again until he was done.
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>>344738684
They don't know how long they've been asleep. It could've been a day for all they know, which is plenty of time to load up all that crap into trucks if you have a bunch of super strength robots as labor
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>>344738928
>A day would've been plenty of time to remove the shit
I agree with you except for it being done in a day
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>>344738928
Except the game tells us the time and date. He could have had a maximum of 12h if the coin flip happened at midnight.
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>>344738684
The stuff was still there probably, he was just lying because he knew they would have believed him.

After all they took everything he said for granted without ever questioning what he said.
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>>344739017
For all we know, that's just the time that they think
Or >>344739083
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>>344738871
>>344738928
I would buy it if ANY of them had said anything about being hungry or thirsty. You can't have characters sleeping for days without any care in the world.
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>>344739146
IV drip biatch. Also, it isn't something you'd immediately talk about when you woke up in the middle of nowhere
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>>344739117
I don't think the game would lie like that. It's the standard movie "location - date - time" overlay, not the time on their watches or anything.
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I think he had the equipment in a truck nearby and hadn't assembled it yet. He starts assembly when the coin flip happens.
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>>344731943
This is gold
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>>344736223
SOMEONE POST THAT PIC OF CARLOS AND DIO DIALOGUE BOX ABOUT CHAIR
>CARLOS IS LEFT CLONE
>KYLE IS DELTA CLONE
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>>344726869
DAMN BART
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>>344741107
someone should draw this with eric and sean
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I actually hate Eric so fucking much. Muh girlfriend
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>>344740621
...You're kidding, right?

Well, here you are anyways.
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>>344741773
I got Q-End 1 before I played through the part where he went crazy and it really did make him way more unbearable
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So, are the news about VLR and 999 getting PC ports true?
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>>344726869
The trailer looked so dark like literally
but on the PC one it had too much bright
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>>344742382
Yes. I'm not 100% sure about VLR but 999 for sure. I haven't seen the actual proof of VLR getting it, but it seems like a logical step
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>>344742424
>>344742478

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/07/03/999-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward-ports-confirmed-anime-expo-2016/

No platform mentioned, but one can think that PC is a safe bet ("STEAMship" etc.)
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>>344742607
And vita
>VITAl STEAMship
That's cool, I just saw the trailer. Speaking of, is there a video of the panel up?
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>>344742237
This is too much of a coincindence
i dont think this is the last of zero escape, lots of unanswered question still looms especially what akane said at the end of vlr to kyle about he's the only one who can end this and what delta said about the fanatic if i remember correctly

> i think the fanatic is Carlos cuz he's always been given the priority to choose by Delta to test if Carlos is worthy to be the next LEFT
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>>344743085
Let it go bruh
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>>344743480
i can't T^T
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>>344743480
OTP i cant let it go...
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>>344743085
...That's extremely wistful thinking, anon.
>Budget needed for ZE4 too much
>ZTD not selling well
>Uchi's lack of explicit interest in continuing the series
>Delta had little interest in Left to begin with, why would he want to find another one?
>Retarded complex motives aside, Delta's intentions are at least not evil. Why would he want Carlos to become the fanatic when he WANTS to stop him?

Don't get me wrong--I adore the fanatic Carlos theory, especially with two Carloses being technically in existence post Payoff. But for now, there's no real support for it and it's simply a fun meme theory.
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>>344743774
There isn't too Carlos, he travel to the timeline where C team is dead
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Does someone have the list of hints towards the fact that Delta was there the entire time?
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>>344744114
Really, anon? Apply yourself.

>Travels back 10 MONTHS and back then there was ONLY one (important) timeline leading up to ZTD's events
>This is long before the timelines begin to branch off, including into the one where team C is dead
>If two Carloses exist at a point before a decision splits a timeline into two, then it follows that two Carloses will still exist in each branch

...If that doesn't make sense to you, then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>344744203
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroEscape/comments/4qsmvu/ztd_spoilerslets_find_all_of_the_foreshadowing/
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>>344726169
Lotus > Mira
Not even considering Alice a character
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>>344727172
After he bullshits him
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OK I just finished the game, still kind of taking it all in. If Delta was Brother did he really believe in Free The Soul? If not, why are the myrmidons still around in VLR?

The whole snail story. Is it implied that mira's first kill got akane's dad framed, and her parents suicide attempt killed the surgeon that would save sean? Where does eric or carlos fit into this misfortune?
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>>344746667

It's implied that Eric's mother was Mira's first victim (same last words, same "hearts" etc.)

Nothing I know links Carlos to the "snail events"
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>>344746667
eric want to fug mira, carlos needs money
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IDK if I should be disappointed by the ending. The reveal was fine but I feel like so much was left out about the previous two games. That, and it had the balls to end with another goal for the cast when there likely will never be a sequel.
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MUH GIRLFRIEND
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Complex motives.
Mind Hack.
Transporter.


This is worse than Fullbright
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>>344731234
>>344731345
wait a second
whoever made this is a fucking retard and doesn't understand the format of the meme they made
>no +'s
>only -'s
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My biggest question is how did the transported ones gain a consciousness? They're supposed to be just a copied physical body, no one ever shifted into them, right? Plus, they retain all the memories up to the moment of the transportation process. Did their consciousness just get copied as well?
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>>344748397
despite what the super saiyan auras imply souls aren't a thing in ZTD

brains are quantum computers, the computers get copied too so consciousness gets copied

ayyliens
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