This is literally the best total war to date, prove me wrong.
Denuvo
>>344711902
>waaahhh i cant get games for free
4 factions, 1 DLC.
Denuvo
It's an unbalanced mess
>Vampire Counts and Chaos don't have ranged shitters and can easily be kited
>Bretonnia is a mess and is clearly inferior to all the other races
>Empire and Dorfs are the same except Dorfs have higher quality units at the expense of unit size and the lack of cavalry
>Orks have a bunch of useless and redundant units
>>344712104
>4 extreme different factions with varied units and lords vs 100 of the same faction with the same units
>>344712201
Bretonnia is half a faction right now.
>>344712201
Armor needs a nerf.
>>344712104
I'd rather have these 5 factions than 20 of Shogun 2's factions where you have the exact same roster except some people get some earlier. Same thing with cultures in Rome 2 and Attila. Everyone within a culture has the same shit, and overall everything is very samey.
>>344712201
>getting kited as vamps
You must be shit at Total War
>Bretonnia
One point i will agree with, but Bretonnia is for cucks anyway
>Empire and Dorfs are the same
No.
>Orks have a bunch of useless units
Such as?
>>344712441
>>344712295
While having 4 varied factions isn't necessarily bad. It needs fucking more options than starting at the same point or location every game. Unit variety is great but you need quantity too.
>>344711840
it's pretty good so far, have to admit.
>>344712201
>kiting the two most mobile factions in the game
sorry to hear you suck
>Bretonnia is a mess and is clearly inferior to all the other races
No shit, it's unfinished. It's coming out as FreeLC.
>Empire and Dorfs are the same except Dorfs
wut
>Orks have a bunch of useless and redundant units
wut
>>344712636
There's mods for that, senpai.
>>344711902
NEVER
>>344712636
>you need quantity too.
There is mods that add units
>more options
there are two lords per faction allowing for slightly different playstyles. Also im pretty sure there are mods that let you start at different locations.
>>344712636
>>344712731
There is a mod for that but its sometimes buggy. When you start in an alternative location, make sure to check if victory conditions are updating or else you might not be able to get a legit finish.
That mod should be made official and polished up because I want to do co-op Chaos and have more Empire-units starting factions.
>>344712875
>>344712731
Where are these mods?
>>344712962
Ah, that sucks.
>I want to do co-op Chaos and have more Empire-units starting factions.
Kislev soon, Anon.I hope ;_;
>>344712995
On the Steam Workshop, tard.
>>344711902
This is a retarded reason, i do not own the game nor do i intend on buying it but saying the game is bad because i cant pirate it is not right.
Game seems good but i dont like Total War so my opinion does not matter, Dwarves are cool though.
>>344712201
>Bretonnia
Literally who gives a fucking shit about Bretonnia? It took Games Workshop 14 fucking years for Bretcucks to get an actual edition update of their own. Once they were given that, they had to come to the realization and find out that their faction got anally fucking raped and annihilated by the Skaven on the same edition that took more than a decade to be released.
You should be glad CA even gave that faction some credence.
>>344713154
Fuck the steam workshop I hate using that.
>>344712460
>Bretonnia is for cucks anyway
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YOU'RE WRONG NIGGER
BRETONNIA STRONK BRETONNIA STRONK BRETONNIA STRONK BRETONNIA STRONK BRETONNIA STRONK
>>344712995
Steam Workshop, its call the Legendary Lord Starting Position. It splits the 4 factions into 8 locations. Each lord has their own starting position.
>>344713390
Might find it on the TW Center forums then
>>344713390
Sorry you have autism, Anon.
>>344713450
M-MUH LADY
M-MUH HONOR
Lore of Death nerf when?
So what race do you think they will add next?
>Tomb Kings
>Skaven
>Wood Elves
>Beast-men
>Ogre's
when wood elves get added this will not only be the best total war game ever, but the best game overall
First game I ever refunded on steam or anywhere.
>>344711840
Vamp-chan will never raise you from the dead and make you do her every bidding. That's why.
I'm so fucking bad at those games, it's not even funny anymore despite playing them ever since Shogun. I know how the mechanics work in theory, but for some reason I can't work with them properly. In every campaign I start, there's always some bullshit. Either I run out of money, or some random faction shows up at my doorstep with five stacked armies and declares war. I can't wrap my head around how to play this shit.
Is there an idiot-proof way to make money and maintain control in this game?
>>344716201
>those tits
no thanks
>>344712201
Bretonnia is unfinished
VC has a fuckload of fliers to balance out the lack of ranged, KAYOSS has outriders which are great
>Empire and Dorfs are the same except for this very important difference
Goblins are cheaper, Orks don't break as easily, it's a tradeoff
>>344714573
Full Bretonnia is next
Other races will come in expansions.Elves are probably next
Got a question about the gameplay.
When you do a research, or make a building, either of which provide a bonus to a type of unit, do units of that type already out in the field get that benefit?
I remember in Shogun 2, if you built something like a master armorer or weaponsmith, only units built at that province *after* the building had been built would get the upgrades, so any units you'd made beforehand could never get the bonus. It always annoyed me and I'm wondering if it carried over for this game. So far I haven't taken the chance to compare two units of the same type built before and after such a research or building, so I can't tell.
>>344718414
If its a rank bonus no, but any other benefit such as +melee damage or whatever is applied instantly iirc
>warhammer game
>blood is dlc
>>344718575
What else where you expecting from Sega/CA
>>344718414
You can retrain your troops in that area to get any new bonuses
What's better, Spearmen or Halberds?
They both serve the same purpose of killing cav and monsters, although Halberds have armor piercing and Spearmen have shields
>>344711902
>>344712187
>>344713390
>>344715745
>all this poorfag butthurt
>>344719030
spearmen have higher defense and charge
>>344719030
Shield spears are better against unarmored, Halberds against armored.
I go for a mix unless I know exactly what the army will be fighting. In pure dps the spears are better.
Gyrocopter's are shit, are they ever going to be buffed?
>>344719632
They got slightly buffed in that last patch.
Still shit, though.
>>344717169
it's easier than ever in this game, you can leave provinces unhappy for a long time before any rebellions happen and there's no food to worry about
you can just focus on growth and gold buildings in all provinces except the capital which is where you want your unit production happening
I hope they add more legendary units for the factions at some point. I can't get my Empire fix without a Marienburg landship.
>>344718884
How do you do that?
>>344712201
>Bretonnia is a mess and is clearly inferior to all the other races
sounds like its true to the TT then
>>344722635
why is that a thing?
>>344723027
Because Marienburg is fucking crazy and has more money than they know what to do with.
>>344711840
I haven't played in a while, but I remember the heroes were way too tanky and spells didn't scale to unit size
Did they fix either of these problems?
I just want muh Squig DLC pack with Skarsnik and all the crazy variants
Also I hope they eventually add the forgeworld monsters to the game like pic related and the Dread Saurian
>>344723230
We need more interesting factions for DLC first.
Wood elves (I want Dark Elves, but everyone points out they aren't even on that continent) would be a start.
>>344711840
I'm waiting for third age mod version of this. the game is really unbalanced.
>>344723828
>Full campaign modpacks
>Denuvo
Pick one anon. This game suffers from what DOOM 4 is suffering with.
>>344711840
Medieval 1 still exists so no
>>344723530
Honestly I'd be happy if they just gave alternate end game scenarios to the chaos stacks
Like chaos armies still come down every onces in a while but getting to also end up with Mannfred leading a great host to reikland or Grimgor starting a proper waagh to kill everyone
>>344714573
Beastmen confirmed
>>344724082
Denuvo only restricts exe modification, and TheThird Age didn't modify the exe, now did it?
>>344711840
I like the online in total war and this one looks to have a really bad one. It's just sniping generals with magic the game.
>>344724082
It has nothing to do with Denuvo, fag.
It's shitty publishers pushing their shitty practices by withholding proper mod support.
If you can make custom races and custom DOOM maps why would you buy the DLC?
>>344712201
Vampire counts are the most OP faction in the game right now.
>>344724378
>>344724371
Or creating and releasing the tools required simply isn't worth investing the large amount of resources required. CA released a proper map editor in Shogun 2 and how many mods utilized it? One. Did that one mod bring in loads of customers to offset the cost of developing the map editor. Absolutely fucking not.
>>344723230
gotta go fast
>>344724378
You can literally BTFO them if you have good missile units. Killing their lord lowers their morale so much that they begging to crumble. VC is strong but kill their lord and its only a matter of time before they get wiped out due to crumbling. This is why VC lords have passive healing and healing magic.
>>344724082
>muh denuvo boggeyman
total war hasn't been fully modable since medieval 2
>>344725045
A few good missile units wont save your from a vampire deathstar.
>>344725045
What are archers going to do when they're getting fucked by spooky undead hounds and bats? Whos going to kill your Vampire Lord when he's the best Lord killer, can regenerate, can heal, and can summon a wall of zombies to stop any flank or charge on him?
VC is incredibly good if you aren't some retard trying to hammer and anvil like it's M2
>>344711840
The only fault I could find was when besieging an enemy settlement and trying to starve them out, the enemy and their allie's agents would come and assault my army each turn causing an unreasonable amount of damage to my army.
Even if I broke the siege and fled, the agents would pursue and obliterate my army in a matter of turns.
I thought, fair enough, I'll just counter their agents with my own. Nope. Even with a 70% chance or higher my agents never succeeded with enough reliability to make it worthwhile.
So I decided that I wouldn't suffer such a retarded gameplay glaw and promptly edited the base files to remove agents abilities entirely. They still exist and run around the map, but they can't do anything. I've never been happier.
>>344725392
>Want to put my lord on a dragon
>this is an invitation for super sniper artillery to take off half his health instantly
I hate that this game punishes you for riding monsters when you aren't named Karl
>>344725392
>The best lord killer
>Not a duelist
Nice one, vampire fag.
>>344726665
>implying your duelist will stand a chance after losing half of their health to spirit leech before even making contact
>>344711840
I want more factions. Beat it as dwarves and humans, and those were relatively fun, but the other factions are meh. Vampires feel like they have a ton of redundant units and magic seems meh. I don't have much interest in orcs period, same with chaos. More factions WHEN?
>>344727485
>>344724243
We'll find out in 3 days
>>344727310
>Spirit leech does half health before they engage
>They engage
>Mannfred isn't a duelist so despite even the full half-health bar advantage, he still gets curb stomped
Thanks for playing, better luck next time!
>>344725465
I've been limiting agents to 3 a faction since Rome 2.
It's the most tedious and antifun mechanic ever added to a fucking game.
>>344725392
>Whos going to kill your Vampire Lord when he's the best Lord killer,
Balthasar Gelt
also X2 Luminarch literally 1 shot any lord. As VC you basically fight without your lord because the moment he gets close he dies and your whole army crumbles.
>>344727660
>spirit leech
>turn around
>wait 10 seconds
>spirit leech again
>any Lord in the game is now dead
Wow it's so hard playing VC. You can't just attack move and watch the game play itself. What a stupid shit faction.
>>344727660
>Mannfred isn't a duelist so despite even the full half-health bar advantage, he still gets curb stomped
Actually Mannfred with leech kills every legendary lord except Gelt, Azhag, and Archaon.
Mainly because those 3 can throw DOT spells right back.
>THA THRONG HAS MUSTARD!
>>344724378
What units are good? Their lack of missile units confuses me.
>>344728289
Grave Guard and Wight Kings, flanked by dire wolves and fell bats for anti arty and ranged. Toss in Vargeists and Vargulfs for heavy hitters.
>>344728682
Any leader spells that should be focused on, or should I focus mostly on enhancing my army?
>>344727735
>actually using Luminarchs
lol wut
>>344728841
That depends. I run a Blood Knight army with super heavy Vampires that wade into combat against entire units while Grave Guard soak up pressure, then run skeletons arouns the main line to flank. This is all while Bats and Dogs run deep and destroy arty systems and pester ranged units. When I see a weak point in the enemy line I rush in my Vargulf who clobbers the enemy line and panics them. I dont like spells, personally, and mostly just have Nehek going
>>344728682
Crypt Horrors are beastly. They fuck shit up.
>>344730003
>>344729395
>>344728682
Are those black coaches or whatever useless then?
>>344729385
Luminarchs are breddy gud now.
each shot does something like 4000 damage to monsterous creatures. You kill Vargulfs in one shot.
2 luminarchs will salvo any single unit in the game, giant, terrorgheist, whatever.
I think the only 2 units that can survive 3 Luminarch shots are Franz and Archaon
>>344711840
Siege battles are ass.
>>344730226
Awful. Skeleton Warriors charge would do more damage than a Black Coach charge. They were buffed in the last patch, but I'm still hesitant.
Kinda surprised how auto resolve can carry you through most shit.
>>344730482
Kind of silly the toppest top end super unit for several factions are ass. Empire has the same problem with their lumis.
>>344724243
Huntsmarshal hero actually senpai
>>344730585
As the FreeLC to coincide with the beastmen perhaps. CA said that the next DLC was significantly larger in scope than the blood DLC, and a single hero certainly does not match that description.
>>344730559
Lumis were buffed and their other top end units are good to OP. Demigriffs were nerfed because of how OP they were. Both variants could 1v1 any unit and win outside of lords/heroes before the patch. I don't know if they can still do that now, but they're still good.
>>344711840
Less tactics more micro. Battles are fast as fuck and over in 3 minutes.
Health bars for units are shit in ttw. Seing your guys repeatedly get up after being hit by a canon ball is ridiculous.
Bland as fuck campaign.
i can't play it because im poor as fuck and refuse to get a job so it's bad because i say so
>>344730541
on Rome 1 I always went for auto-resolve unless I was totally outnumbered and I could get through my whole campaign just fine
It isn't even that hard to turtle in a map, and while you lose, you can do x2 the number of casualties you get
I'd say that's the case for most of the TW games I've played extensively (RTW, RTW2 and NTW)
I love TW, don't get me wrong, but once you get the hang of it, it starts to get kinda boring imo
>>344730828
Demigryphs can't 1v1 blood knights, and they couldn't 1v1 high end halberd/anti armor units to begin with (chosen with halberd, hammerer).
They still massacre all monstrous, all cav except blood knights, and all infantry without charge defense/halberds.
>>344712104
>4 factions
This meme, I swear to god.
It's actually 4 RACES, warhammer games always had 1 race, the human race.
There is actual difference this time.
>>344718575
>>344718640
>We want the base game to be PEGI18
>>344731295
Rome had good variations in unit rosters. Different factions played really really differently.
Medieval, empire, and shogun had very samey rosters.
>>344731229
Blood Knights are great. I started my first VC campaign the day before the patch was released. It was perfect timing.
>>344731080
>once you get the hang of it, it starts to get kinda boring
like many things
>>344731428
>shogun
of course, they are all yellow.
>>344731428
In medieval 2 you had arabs, mongols, azteks and europeans
>>344731608
yeah but it's not the same, unless the mongols develop wings and giant spiders.
What's the best chaos army config in campaign to deal with large numbers of dwarves?
>>344731920
>>344731920
>the king of the insect kingdom
Does Rome have giant spiders, friend?
>>344731454
considering it's a strategy game, it should get better, not worse, once you learn the ins-and-outs
Victoria 2 gets interesting once you understand POPs, Brood War got interesting once you learned the mechanics, AoE II gets interesting once you understand the softcounters and play more flexible, etc...
It might just be me, but TW games lose the novelty fast, maybe because it's the same formula with superficial changes and very small mechanic changes over and over again. That's why I liked Napoleon Total War so much, since ranged warfare got a lot more massive and all of that (I haven't touched Warhammer tho, I'm not dumping 60 bucks in something that I haven't tried)
>>344731608
>In medieval 2 you had arabs, mongols, azteks and europeans
in the expension
>>344732052
>Victoria 2
>strategy
delete this
I think it's certainly the best playing Total War in terms of UI and unit responsiveness in battles
However it's also easier to play because so many systems have been removed. In other words it's far more simplified.
I would recommend this game to someone not into Total War that just likes Warhams and strategy games but as a TW game it's only fair.
I have over 1000 hours between medieval 2 to Rome 2 where I was beating armies 2-3 times my size at the same tech levels, and I literally can't beat the AI reliably in attila and warham a bam
wat do
>>344732052
i like the variation between the races, i find when i'm playing campaign with my friend that i have to completely change my roster for each enemy race. in previous total war games my elite unit config tended to be the same for each enemy roster.
>>344732062
All were in the main game
>>344715546
>wood elves
>dogshit tier elves over the master races
>>344732251
certainly no
>>344712636
There's rumors circulating from people datamining the game. Expected races via DLC:
Beastmen (seems to be confirmed), Wood Elves, Tomb Kings, Skaven, Chaos Dwarfs & Ogre Kings.
Expected races via Expansion Packs:
Pack #1 - High Elves, Dark Elves & Lizardmen
Pack #2 - All about Chaos, 1 faction per god. Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle & Slaanesh
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?732794-Total-War-WARHAMMER-What-factions-are-waiting-for-us-information-leak-about-the-upcoming-DLC-and-addons
>>344732316
Afaik: Arabs in it ofc, Mongols appear after a scripted event and America as well in the very late game. Non playable faction.
>>344711840
Any tips for legendary from an anon who has beaten it? I'm playing greenskins and got to turn 60 before I got blown the fuck out by chaos. How do you secure a victory properly? I had 4 full 20 units with plenty of waagh, but it seems I just get surrounded and I start losing gradually.
>>344732138
That is one big nose.
>>344732389
Hope that they have all that and Kurgan.
Is there a way to make troops take on formations?
I'm so used to telling my spearmen in Shogun 2 to go into lowered pike mode, or having musketmen enter into kneel fire, but in this I can't seem to figure it out, unless it was removed altogether?
>>344732784
Spear troops and shield troops will automatically form shield wall and spear wall when stationary
>>344732389
> Chaos Dwarfs
lmao keep trying you manlet
>>344711840
Doesn't feel anything like Total War. Least content in a Total War to date. At least it's been playtested by the devs for once.
>>344732389
I want Tomb Kings and wood elves bad.
>>344731608
Ottoman Roster was so much fun. Medium infantry, godtier archers, and naffatun.
Crusader states in Stainless Steel are also really fun.
>>344732389
I love the optimism, but CA charges up the ass for every release. No pack will have three races, and the old ones that did were basically the same faction with minor changes.
Love warhammer, but CA dlc pricing is some of the worst in the industry.
>>344733391
Expansions, not race packs.
Their dlc pricing is fine, and outside of blood/preorder bullshit, they have some of the fairest dlc policies out there.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeit
>>344733935
You need more black orcs, swap for doom divers and get ork boar boyz big uns. Only goblin units I had were spider rider archers and doom divers.
>>344734157
black orc boar boyz in radious are op as fuck
>>344734601
>Radious
Anon, pls
>>344734601
>radious
I'm not sure if it's intentional, but I feel like they really nailed the tone and feel of the setting. I've played Empire and it feels desperate, and constant war on all sides. The fucking elector counts are at yours and each others throats constantly, the dwarves are too standoffish and isolationist to really participate, Brettonia's got all their own shit, and then there's the fucking Nordsca and VC constantly hounding. AND THEN Chaos comes in to fuck everyone. Last TW I played was Shogun 2 and I remember being able to have decent periods of peace and development and even cooperation with other clans, punctuated by wars for a specific purpose or goal. This time around it's just constant war because everyone hates one another and are all different races.
All the shit they throw on you, always from all sides, feels like the world is miserable and there's very little hope. Which of course makes it all the more amazing when you pull through.
>tfw the more Chaos spreads and Archaon pushes south, the more willing everyone is to be friends and cooperate
Feels glorious as shit forming one last, great alliance between men, dwarves, and even peace with VC and greenskins, to stop Chaos from destroying everything. Like the opening of the LotR movie, replacing the elves with dwarves.
>>344711902
>>344712187
>>344712062
>>344719109
t. angry moralfag virgins
Nope, this franchise has been going downhill since Shogun 2, and now they made it a crossover with some nerd franchise.
Fuck this shit.
I'm pretty fucking annoyed that blood is DLC, and sometimes it's laggy but other than that, yes, it is the best Total War game.
>>344735170
>History
>not for nerds
>>344735215
>dragons, orcs and elfs
>not the staple of fat virgins
>>344734663
whats wrong with radious now
>>344735245
>some butthurt total war faggot is upset that his favorite RTS is saved by Warhammer when the series was stagnating because the last 2 games they released were buggy pieces of shit that noone gave a fuck about.
Kill yourself.
>trading regions/provinces still isn't back
What the fuck.
>>344735316
>saved
>by making the Total War with less content ever
>when this massive turd is nothing but a crossover with a shitty franchise only a bunch of mouthbreathing neckbeards care about
No.
SUMMON
I'll wait for the next one, the setting of this one looks fucking retarded.
>>344735268
It does horrible, horrible things to the lore and faction design while completely breaking most game systems, usually in favor of being easier/more casual
>>344735195
Wasn't blood DLC in Shogun 2? That's nothing new.
HIGH
KING
THORGRIM
GRUDGEBEARER
>There are people in this very thread that don't realize that Empire:Total War is the best game of the series.
>>344735403
THEY WILL OBEY
>>344735392
The community has a lot of Warhammer diehards who defend every related release. I remember seeing Eternal Crusade tags talking about how they love the game but have to make time for TW.
It was bad enough when those mouthbreathers invaded vermintide and vtg and killed it.
>>344735467
Go poop in your pants. WHFB is an amalgamation of the coolest shit in fantasy settings.
>>344735679
>Empire: Total War
You mean ERIOIRE: RAW WAR?
>>344735703
Vermintide was an amazing game, and I am tempted to play it again with all the new shit. I had a beast empire soldier with fully legendary items. Have you played it recently?
>>344735679
>Empire
>best
Not even the best Gunpowder game senpai, that's FotS
>>344716201
I would cum all over those tits and then have her bite my dick to suck all the blood from my erection
>>344735760
yes it is easily best.
>>344735532
it IS easier but I dont mind less upkeeps on armies when the ai cheats and gets multiple stacks of 20 units for free by turn 10
>>344735746
>Go poop in your pants.
Why don't you go back to Tumblr and you only start thinking of coming back when you stop talking like a 5 year old?
>>344735780
>mfw internet randomly drops out, fucking me over mid-game
>>344735929
They get big stacks but they're garbage that you could beat with 2/3rd stacks if you got gud
Gitting gud is not something you'll do with Radious holding your hand
>>344735746
>WHFB is an amalgamation of the coolest shit in fantasy settings.
t. fat virgin
>graphics suck dick worse than attila, everything looks like vomit shit with no color
>remove all the interesting mechanics introduced to total war over the past decade including food, sanitation, fertility, social classes, family tree politics, etc.
>factions are different but boil down to the same tactic everytime into the lategame and become repetitive. battles are lackluster and too fast without unit diversity or progression (pretty easy to get all the units early on for each faction). chaos is a joke and an afterthought in terms of implementation literally just an exercise in frustration
>no diversity in campaign or any interesting events besides chaos invasion(which is poorly done compared to the hordes in attila or mongols in m2tw). thus every campaign is the exact same unless you put in dumb handicaps yourself. there isnt even a reason to beat the campaign because they LITERALLY DO NOT GIVE YOU A VICTORY CINEMATIC or acknowledgement of your achievement. just play until you get bored because there's no light at the end of the tunnel
if they continue the series in this directon they may as well remove the grand campaign and just make a story based linear campaign because its clear they dont give a fuck about making an interesting strategy game. the battles are shit too, shogun 2 fall of the samurai was the best in terms of total war battles
i'm gonna be honest, Medieval 2 Total War with the Stainless Steel mod is the height of Total War series and thats mainly from the luck of the time period creating interesting divide and gameplay. It's outdated in some regards(unit reinforcement is annoying and merchant mechanic is AIDS) but it still shines out the rest of the shitty games. Attila had some potential but it needed some heavy modifications(game is abandoned at this point even by modders). i literally have been playing m2tw for 6 years now and it still never gets old
>>344735403
Karl Franz is my spiritual liege. Any time I have a tough decision to make, or moral quandry, I simply ask myself "What would Karl Franz do?"
My phone's ringing from some unknown number and I'm wondering if I should pick it up? I imagine Karl Franz is sharing the loveseat with me.
>"WHO CALLS, MEN? WAR CALLS."
There's a drunk girl passed out, and I'm wondering if I should screw her anyway? I imagine she's Karl Franz.
>"THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT."
Thank you based Emperor.
>>344712201
>Vampire Counts and Chaos don't have ranged shitters and can easily be kited
their wolves and Calvary makes it up
>Bretonnia is a mess and is clearly inferior to all the other races
they deserves it for refuse sigmar's offer and got played by elves
>Empire and Dorfs are the same except Dorfs have higher quality units at the expense of unit size and the lack of cavalry
don't see anything wrong with it
>Orks have a bunch of useless and redundant units
what are trolls, black orcs, giant spider and FUCKING DOOMDIVER??
>>344735620
>>344735195
Wait until it's on sale for a buck. It sucks, but it's workable.
>mfw this turd
>mfw the Civilization VI gameplay
Strategy games are dead.
>>344735647
THE GRUDGE MUST AVENGED
>>344714573
fun fact, lizard man was never in any warhammer fantasy theme video game.
>>344736290
>>mfw the Civilization VI gameplay
what's wrong with it?
>>344735647
GETS
KILL KILL
AND DIE DIE
BY
SKAVEN
ASSASSIN
>>344711840
Shame it also has less replay value than other entries due to lack of factions. They need to hurry the fuck up and release some more content, but aside from that yes it is the best.
>>344711902
>>344712187
>a game is bad because it does not fall in line with my electronic activism
>>344736374
>that artstyle
>even more casualized in pretty much every way
It's as if it was the corpse of a cancelled smartphone game.
>>344736290
>mfw autistic nostalgiafags are this close to killing themselves
>>344736374
Whats wrong with Civ 6 gameplay?
>>344736680
>>that artstyle
>civilization always had a super realistic artstyle, guyyyzzz!
>>344736728
Why would I?
I've accepted strategy games are dead for a long time now.
It's a dying genre who's best days are long behind.
>>344736763
It didn't, but it didn't have freemium smartphone shit artstyle.
It looks worse than fucking Civilization V, useless lazy fucks.
>>344736728
>mfw fat virgins unironically defend what RTS games are now
>mfw fat virgins will unironically defend the cringeworthy crossover turd that Total War is now
>mfw fat virgins in pure denial over their doomed genre
>>344737547
>It's a dying genre who's best days are long behind.
Just like your life.
>>344737719
Epic arguments, neo-RTS player.
>>344737905
I used to play RTS.
I still do, but I used to, too.
Sorry to hear about how miserable you are now though, really. Maybe now you can lose some weight instead of playing video games, fatstuff.
>>344738079
Not miserable, just laughing at people who clinge so hard to a game genre on it's deathbed, composed by only two franchises with creatively bankrupt developers.
>>344738126
>Not miserable, just laughing at people who clinge so hard to a game genre on it's deathbed, composed by only two franchises with creatively bankrupt developers.
G-guys please help me.
I cant play any other race but the dwarves. I mean fuck i just dont know how to make a strategy without having superior firepower to chip down the enemy units before they get to me, then tie them in melee and just flank them with more ranged units.
>>344711840
online mp is terrible, just like you.
>tfw they didn't use the Ice Queen as the ruler of Kislev
>>344736430
I really hope Skaven campaigns in this game will be as crazy as Skaven politics are in the fluff. The Council should be like the Pope but completely off their rocker.
>you can build huge armies for dirt cheap to crush all the man-things and beard-things
>but the Council of Thirteen keep patting you on the back with one hand while dumping shitloads of warpstone onto Clan Eshin and co. with the other
>constantly fighting with other Skaven clans who think you're getting too big for your boots
>when you start to get big the Council starts actively supporting the other clans trying to take you down with shitloads of warpstone (completely under the table, of course)
It'll be great.
>>344738245
'lol u mad' has to be the most epic argument ever.
Warhammer is a dead franchise that nobody cares about, so no, not even going to bother.
>>344736290
check out wargame red dragon if you haven't. It has a decent amount of people playing it online.
>>344738643
That'd be amazing, if you can't control them as a whole and just play as one of the clans. And the biggest threat and greatest difficulty comes from... the other Skaven, of course. You all have to vie for the favor of the council against one another and such.
>>344735195
You can pirate the DLC anon.
>>344739821
Wait what? Is the pirated dlc steam compatible?
>>344740156
Yes. Denuvo is only on the main game.
>>344735096
Ah, poorfags being poor again.
So I got this game free with my cpu I just got.
Is this a good place to learn total war or should I play total war Rome?
>>344722635
>you have to use that as a steamtank on the tabletop now
>>344725045
>>344728289
>>344724378
>>344728682
necromancer+manfred + spoopy ghosts+crypt horrors
enjoy your nolosses it's literally the most broken shit currently ingame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKIOxKVErIU
>>344740663
And what do necro and manfred do while they do their work? And which ghosts specifically? The cavarly or infantry?
>>344740663
Cant dwarves just rooty tooty outshooty that?
>>344711902
ahahahahaah its priceless
>>344712201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7VDFUYypek
"no"
>>344740756
they sit safely in the middle of the blob and overcast invocation of nehek (so it has a 30 m range , which is why you're in a blob whenever the lads have taken about 25% damage
it's the infantry you need
>>344740759
handgunners can do some serious damage to the crypt ghouls , but your blob can punch through almost anything , on top of that the ghosts only take 25% physical damage and heal a crazy amount with invocation of nehek
as much as i hate linking this fag again he did some tests : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiK52wLtLxA
there's pretty much nothing that can beat it if it's done correctly it even got buffed in the most recent patch
>>344741114
Are ghosts infantry? Because lately i have fallen in love with dwarf flamethrowers, even if the unit count per squad is abysmall, the damage they do is insane. You need amazing positioning with them tough
>>344723123
Heroes are still tanky, but they're generally not worth it for that alone. They did fix the spell scaling issue.
>>344732052
>building liquor factories: the game
>strategy
still better than HoI4
>>344732784
there are mods on steam workshop for that.
>>344737706
>cringeworthy
you are the same guys who think rome 2 now is the same as rome 2 on release day.
>you find a seed of rebirth on your gryphon mounted lord
pretty op tbph.
>>344731376
>Using the "muh ESRB" argument.
You're a fucking idiot. ESRB literally do nothing to sales. Higher ratings REALLY hurt games like GTAV and CoD, don't they, you fucking spastic. It's a fucking Total War game; wouldn't want to put a sad face on the massive numbers of 12 year old fucking strat players, would we?! LIKE THEY FUCKING EXIST YOU FUCKING MORON.
>>344711840
Attila, Med2, FOTS and Napoopan are all better
>>344742829
I recently went back and played Attila after playing about 500 hours of Warhammer, and honestly, there is a lot more to like about Warhammer.
There's a shitload of features which they gutted from Attila which I wish were in Warhammer, but I like the setting and factions of Warhammer much, much more.
>tel your dawi vassal to take a settlement in the badlands
>he razes it
I want to be mad but they are so CUTE!
>>344743005
>setting
well tw:w is my first introduction to warhammer fantasy, so I dont really care much about the setting
the campaign map stuff in warhammer is just too "streamlined" most factions have just 1(!) economy building for example, there are no settlement battles, or bridge/river crossing battles, or seasons, or a dismount button (brettonians really need this to make sieging while playing them possible), or diseases (isnt nurgle a god of disease)
its a fun game but it feels pretty shallow, it will probably be much better a couple of years down the line when we get some much needed DLC that adds some variety
>>344740530
The landship is a separate unit, unless Age of Sigmar went even wackier and seriously changed some shit.
>>344739821
Wait, how?
>>344743895
you can't.
this ain't paradox.
>>344711840
>prove me wrong
Completely impossible. Literally GOTY right here.
>>344743643
They also removed naval battles and Beach assaults, despite the northern tribes being heavily reliant on their ships and the northern Empire states have gigantic amounts of the things.
High elves are also very known for their ships.
TWW feels really, really stripped out and streamlined.
>>344732389
If this is real I will die a happy man. With all those included, this could be my favorite Warhammer game of all time.
>>344735195
Sadly, Blood DLC has been the norm for the past few Total War games
>>344735953
Someone's diaper is full.
>>344736348
>lizard man was never in any warhammer fantasy theme video game.
Blood bowl, technically.
>>344732389
>Expected races via DLC: Skaven
An interview with PCgamer heavily suggested that the Skaven will be an expansion race, along with the Tomb Kangz. But I guess they may have changed their tune since then, I don't know.
>playing dorf campaign
>orcs pop up like rabbits and gotta chase them with my full stack leaving recently dorfized towns
>another orc pops up with full stack and reconquer weak ass towns
>shit degrades into a benny hill chase scene
Fucking orcs. I quite enjoy the dorfs because I don't have to move that much and shoot everything when they get in range.
How is the empire anyway?
>>344745164
you have toSUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
>>344745230
I am Prince and Emperor
>>344745164
I've finished the game on normal now on Chaos, Empire and Orcs.
Chaos was easiest and Orcs were the hardest.
Im now playing Dwarfs on Hard and its not been very... hard. Their biggest problem is population, but with their income you can just raise numberless armies in matter of turns.
>>344745598
Dwarfs have probably the easiest start because of how close they are to gold/gem cities. And their boosts to income from gold/gems, they make thousands of dosh, very early on. Which balances out their unit cost so much it becomes a non issue.
>>344718575
>he doesnt understand ratings
>>344745817
honestly, the gold itself never really bothered me when playing dwarves. I always had minimal losses and could beat twice as large armies on normal. The only time i actually saved gold up is before i conquer a town so i can instantly build towards fortifying it with reserves.
But yea, with dwarfs as a beginner i could shit on battles that were 2/3 or more in the enemies favour.
>>344711840
I like it, but it has its problems
>like 70% of the races are missing
>magic sucks
>battles are over to fast
>some mechanics need some tuning (book of grudges etc.)
>it needs some more building/unique places (like Wildorcs etc.)
>it needs some (ingame)cinematic when you win - at the moment it is super lackluster (I think the last game or was it Civ had something like that)
btw. The voice actors are pretty awesome.
AHZAG IS HERE! I AM TRUE POWA!
Bretonnia is an actual faction of homosexuals.
>>344746545
TAKE THAT BACK
HAVE YOU EVEN SUPPED FROM THE GRAIL
>>344746545
Bretonnian boys with magic are taken away by elves to get /ss/'d forever though.
>>344746329
>book of grudges needs tuning
You don't happen to be someone who the dwarf kingdoms have a grudge agains?
>>344737605
>wahh waahhh muh taste
fuck off, smartphone didn't invent cartoon artstyle.
>>344742721
>You're a fucking idiot. ESRB literally do nothing to sales.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Higher ratings REALLY hurt games like GTAV and CoD, don't they, you fucking spastic.
totally the same public, moron
And please, holy fuck if I don't want GTA public on my total war MP.
>>344711902
>unpiratable
GOAT
>>344746329
>70% of the races
well to be fair , most of those are on diffrent continents , the 2 mayor missing ones are wood elves and beastmen which will probably get a dlc
>magic sucks
it destroys on small sizes but yeah it sucks because the damage doesn't scale
>battles are over fast
personal opnion there friendo, personally i hate grindfests where you can take your sweet as time to do anything , shorter battles are more intense
>book of grudges
definetly, i wish they'dd stop the ai from raiding and running away all the time , the ai also needs to start offensive siege battles way more often
>buildings/unique places
they don't really add that much atm i'dd love to see more stuff represented on the battlemap though
>>344747421
>And please, holy fuck if I don't want GTA public on my total war MP.
but, its more successful
>>344748190
>it's more successful so it's better
LOOK at GTAO
You really want THEM playing Total war?
>>344748331
B-but, muh ratings are a scam.
>>344748704
what rating?
>>344748728
CA is literally the devil for putting effort in their blood and gore DLC by adding humongous gibbing.
>>344711840
>Malware, aka Denuvo
>DLC carved out from the game pre-release
>BLOOD DLC
It's fuckin' aids.
>>344712201
Sounds exactly like the tabletop.
>>344711840
It is not, prove ME wrong.
>>344712201
>Bretonnia is a mess and is clearly inferior to all the other races
That´s canonical, so good that it is represented in the game.
Those stupid fucks worship a wood elf.
>>344749589
the armies are bigger in your mum's cunt lmao
>>344727606
Plz explain
>>344749501
>>DLC carved out from the game pre-release
back to /r/cynicalbrit you go.
