>games i've been looking forward to since the transition from previous gen
>Fallout 4
>MGSV
>Witcher 3
>Dark Souls 3
>all fucking shit and huge disappointments
this will be the promised one lads
the one that will save gaming
You're too opinionated to enjoy games anymore. Find a real hobby if your just going to start whining shit threads.
>Denuvo
I'll pass.
Ive seen enough from the gameplay videos to know its going to mediocre at best.
Deus Ex was about an agent with access to interesting skills and abilities.
They are determined to make a marketable superhero with awesome super powers instead.
Hubs and dialogue will keep it from being total shit I hope.
>>344642952
Of course you will :^)
u wot nigga, witcher 3 is awesome
>>344641354
HR was mediocre and MD is looking worse so far
Never trust a company who boasts about releasing a game 4 days early and then delays the fucking thing for 6 months
Witcher 3 can't be disappointment. If you like Witcher 2 it's guaranteed you'll like 3
>>344645409
>polish is bad! I want flawed gems like Deus Ex, Deadly Premonition and E.Y.E.!
>>344643304
>Deus Ex was about an agent with access to interesting skills and abilities.
And so is HR and MD. I don't see your problem.
>>344641354
i waited 5 fucking years it better not be shit
I don't like the takedowns from the first. I don't like takedowns from cover. I'm not sure if they'll implement a proper melee system if they want to deviate a little from the cinematic shit path they've taken.
Some augs look retarded powerful, like the one that knocks out multiple people from a distance, it reminds me of the BamHam Nig Fear takedown that easily takes out multiple enemies, made things too easy.
The "mechanical apartheid" sounds retarded as fuck, being introduced to us in trailers as subtle as a rocket to the face, and really sounds to be one more "social critique" game.
>>344641354
>>all fucking shit and huge disappointments
I wouldnt go as far. FO4 is really shit, but I dont understand how one couldn't see it coming.
Other titles changed direction from previous series entries. Usually on itself there were good, just lacking compared to their predescessors, which is sad.
>>344646103
Because the original Deus Ex had no social critique whatsoever
>Fallout 4
I can't get into any Bethesda game, they feel devoid of life, their open worlds have no dynamic events of any sorts. I tried Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, never tried any of the modern Fallouts.
>MGSV
didn't try this one
>Witcher 3
I hated the first Witcher, and that kept me from playing the others because I didn't want to feel clueless about it
>Dark Souls 3
still haven't played it
>>344646675
Deus Ex had plenty of critique, none of it was as hamfisted as a HEY GUYS THE TRAINS HAVE SEPARATIONS FOR AUGS AND NON AUGS LOL
Also the whole "society is bigoted" angle they're clearly pulling with MD, this kind of marxist critique is not in Deus Ex.
fuck off
>If it isn't a 11/10 GOAT it's shit
kys
>>344641354
It's gonna be exactly the same game, with not as buttugly graphics and even more casualised. At lest there's gotta be a good sense of exploration
>>344645590
If you look at history when game companies delay games for reasons related to "polish" they never turn out to be good.
Watch Dogs was delayed
Mighty No 9 was delayed several times
Daikatana was delayed
Duke Nukem Forever was delayed a very long time
Even looking at their latest footage I can easily see the reasons for the delay. The current builds don't even look good
>>344646692
>I can't get into any Bethesda game, they feel devoid of life, their open worlds have no dynamic events of any sorts. I tried Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim
I never saw why people liked Oblivion, first person sword fighting is shit, I enjoyed fallout 3, but NV & 4 were shit.
>>344646103
>takedowns from the first
literally kill yourself
>>344646937
it's not just the combat, all dungeons in Oblivion look alike, the same objects everywhere which feels cheap as fuck
>>344646816
Yes it was. The mech augs realizing they're outcasts and worthless compared to the bio augs. And society is plenty bigoted in DX, with the mission where you have to do the shit only so the mayor and his kids get the ambrosia, and the fact that Ambrosia is only going around the rich since the plague was made to take out the poor.
>>344646837
>kys
This website is 18+ kid, fuck off until you're older
>>344647052
The first eidos montreal Deus Ex as in Human Revolution, you poor sperg.
>>344646937
>but NV & 4 were shit.
Look out anon the autistic Vegas fags are going to be at your neck any second now
>>344647103
Agree
also places scaling with you has always been shit to me, just make high level places ffs.
>>344641354
>same shit cover system
>same shit "melee combat"
>SAME SHIT ONE SIDED EXP SYSTEM
OH BOY CAN'T WAIT TO GRIND GHOST AND SMOOTH OPERATOR RATINGS WITH NON LETHAL TAKEDOWNS AS ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET A GOOD AMOUTN OF PRAXIS KITS
FUCK IT
DXHR was mediocre, don't see a reason why this one should be any better. They tried too hard to not do cheese but failed.
>>344647209
Meh, I didn't like the fact there was a big city in game, prefer my post nuke worlds to be sparsely populatedanother reason to nuke megaton
>witcher 3
>fucking shit and a huge disappointment
>>344647132
Where did that happen? Gunther and Anna were just annoyed that the technology they were using was obsolete and they would make poor agents in the future, which is perfectly understandable. JC was simply a superior agent to them and it made them jealous.
I don't remember any "wow society is racist" in Deus Ex. it touched on many issues like information, the government spying on the population, totalitarianism and others, but what they're doing in Mankind Divided is different. Anyone who says it is similar to the first game is just admitting they never played it.
>>344641354
>>Fallout 4
A big mistake.
>>MGSV
Another mistake, but it was still fun, at least.
>>Witcher 3
God tier vidya that lived up to the hype.
>>Dark Souls 3
Pretty good.
Not sure what to think of Mankin Divided yet.
>>344641354
>Witcher 3
>Shit
>>344646904
>Uncharted 4
>>344647450
Deus Ex, HR, and MD all tackle different issues with society. MD just tackles one that you don't like.
The Witcher 3 is shit.
Unless you're playing video games for the story, then maybe it's good.
>>344641354
>Fallout in the same bracket as Witcher3
Witcher 3 won, m8y.
>Fallout 4
Is irredeemable Toddshit.
>MGSV
Kojimbles Pachinko horror
>Dark Souls 3
Was pretty okay. More darksouls + Bloodborne would have been welcome.
You fucking suck OP, that's just the truth.
DX:MD is going to be awesome, have to admit
>>344647619
You....you tell em broski.
>>344647523
Are you actually saying Uncharted 4 is a good game?
>>344647749
I just can't find anything I like about it.
But I have been skipping the storyI find it boringwhich is the bit /v/ told me was good about the game.the combat is awful
>>344647616
Deus Ex did not have "society is _____" criticism, it's clear you didn't play the original. It's not just the kind of thing they're going, the APARTHEID angle is being tackled on in a way that it is as subtle as a rampaging elephant in mating season.
They're using the IP to do their shitty cultural commentary with it. Yes I'm not okay with using Deus Ex for marxist propaganda, the series was much, much better than this.
>>344647898
Maybe you're the one who hasn't played the original.
>>344646692
Why in fucking hell did you comment if you havent played any of the fucking games you mongrel piece of shit
>>344641354
>>Fallout 4
>>344648026
Prove me wrong then.
>>344646904
Resident Evil 4 was delayed for years and it turned out to be one of the most highly rated games of all time
>live in shithole
>they release witcher
>never cared abotu franchise
>movie and serial are shit, books are ok at best
>check reviews it gets 7+/8-
>maybe I will check it out
>forget about
>enchanced edition comes out
>see review
>'it finally deserves the score it got back then'
Nope. Since then I stayed away from series.
>>344647863
Yes, I actually am.
>>344648127
> RE
Kys weeb boy
>>344641354
>people were actually hyped up for Fallout 4
>surprised that it ended up being boring dumbed down shit
What the fuck did you niggas expect from Bethesda?
>>344648253
y-you too
>>344647898
You're being a bit silly if you think a video game has an agenda
>>344648236
>>344647523
>>344648236
>Uncharted 4
>game
>Ammo listed twice in the hud
>Crysis weapon mod button takes up space on the controller, which will make gameplay more shallow on all platforms
>XP system is still fucked. They acted like they fixed it by saying they made cobat a viable playstyle, but it still gives 5 times less XP than non lethal stealth.
I liked Deus Ex, I liked HR. Both different.
I don't think I will dislike this, I'm not one to judge based on current political events as much on this as it is on Watch_dongs 2 which is way more obvious. I mean at this point just call them black lives matter, why won't you.
I think the story of MD is a direct result of the events in HR, what with the whole thing with Purity First. It's not a random insert of current events, but it probably grabs a bit of it. It's not the next depression quest or Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
>>344648473
>>344648403
You're a bit ignorant and naive if you can't see what the "mechanical apartheid" is about. Or you're willfully ignoring it, doesn't mean it is not there.
western society is racist
western society is homophobic
western society is islamophobic
western society is augphobic
it's pretty much the same trend
Are there really people who dont like the fucking graphics?
Jesus christ
Kill yourselves
>>344647158
Kys
>>344643304
>Deus Ex was about an agent with access to interesting skills and abilities.
so whats the problem exactly?
>>344642952
You didnt have a choice, poorfag.
>>344648779
What if he is actually rich and would have gotten the game if it didn't have intrusive DRM.
>>344648718
Fucking this. You people are so quick to cry "muh sjw" that you forget basic things like story progression or enjoying gameplay.
>>344648403
>You're being a bit silly if you think a video game has an agenda
jesus christ do you even listen to developer interviews? Every single fucking one of them has a sociopolitical agenda and they are explicit about that shit because libs consider it commendable instead of taboo
>>344648742
>>344648984
>These posts
Autism is a fucking sin, cure yourselves
>He looked forward to Fallout 4
>>344649082
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=video+games+sexism&oq=video+games+sexism&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.4243.6552.0.6670.20.11.1.8.8.1.115.852.9j2.11.0...0.0...1ac.1.gJ2sygfa4f4
>>344648924
The gameplay has problems too, TAKEDOWNS, 3rd person stealth and more.
The other anon just picked on my disapproval of the themes they went for, maybe he owns stock at eidos or something.
>>344649082
>criticism of a game is autism
>>>/r/eddit
you have to go back
>>344645547
Wrong. I loved the fuck out of 1 and 2 and Witcher 3 is garbage.
>>344641354
>mfw I enjoyed all the games in the OP and will enjoy mankind divided
Who here /spits on /v//
>>344641496
>>344641354
Pretty much this OP, you are a massive jaded faggot, as always fpbp
>>344649350
I see you, Todd.
>>344648924
I am very much against cultural marxism in many levels, but at the same time if I were to sit right here being all comfortable, thinking that a piece of paper or some form of media that portrays something related to something I don't like is completely wrong, I'm kinda playing the same card as these regressives.
What do you think anita is doing? She takes the slightest hints of "accidental sexism" in games and shits on them without even playing them. This game didn't even come out and because there is a concept that is similar to a certain real subject, because the main character is part of a minority (which like I said, is logical given the events of HR) we already assume that this is a bible on how to love blacks and muslims, and shit on white males (with a little bit of gunplay on the side).
>>344649151
>shitpost Fallout 4 since the day it was announced after the massive shitfest that was Fallout 3
>literally take a massive dump on it every single thread I can find
>finally comes out
>give it a cheeky pirate just so I can shitpost it even harder
>end up enjoying it
I just don't know anymore
>>344649428
*spits on u*
DS3 wasn't bad though.
>>344649221
>The gameplay has problems too, TAKEDOWNS, 3rd person stealth and more.
So basically what HR had. It's fair criticism, but it's nothing they just added. If you think it's shit, fair enough, but don't go telling people you played the previous entry then.
>>344649245
I'm sorry for your shit taste
>>344649350
Me
Except metal gear is shit and always has been, so i just pretend it doesnt exist
Fuck, i just remembered i pirated TPP. Need to delete that garbage off my hard drive
>>344648403
>Watch Dogs 2 has you kill a Trump stand-in
>Mafia 3 has you kill a Trump stand-in
>both made by liberal nu-male developers out of San Francisco or some other shithole
>"bro it's just a video game lmao there's no political agenda XD"
Fucking comic books have political agendas. Board games have political agendas. Of course video games have political agendas. End your life, you braindead, simpering retard.
>>344649658
>they're not improving on anything
>they said they listened to complaints people had of HR
Are you trying to spin those as positives? Yes HR has flaws, and HR is still inferior to the original. Maybe you need to lurk more and see that many people have that opinion on Human Revolution.
But they're making it even worse by making takedowns work from corner cover for example, which obviously makes it easier.
>>344648984
>>344648742
You do know that the guys who came up with Mechanical Apartheid were a french nigger and an asian dude, and the nigger made a huge post on reddit calling SJW fucking inbred retards, right?
>>344649854
I dunno that trump stand-in that mafia 3 has is pretty funny.
Then again though I neither browse /pol/int/ nor am I american so I ain't gonna get butthurt about it.
>>344649882
>making takedowns work from corner cover for example, which obviously makes it easier.
but this worked in HR
you just didn't have a prompt, but if you clicked the takedown button you could takedown from cover anyway
>>344649854
*tips tin foil hat*
The depth of stupidity could fill several oceans
>>344649948
Have /pol/tards ever been right?
>>344641354
>>Fallout 4
You have no one to blame but yourself. Fallout 3 is garbage. Beth has NEVER made a good game. Those who say otehrwize are blinded by nostalgia. They can't write, code, or do anything.
>Dark Souls 3
A perfectly serviceable souls game. I have no problems with it.
>Witcher 3
>bad
Fuck this meme, Witcher 3 was great.
I just want more epic memes out of MD like this one so I can share with my friends over on reddit.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y414Q7vVgYU
>>344641496
This.
Might as well an hero anon.
>>344649948
SJWs are retards, big fucking deal. It still doesn't change how they're presenting in a way that is a "social commentary", that's the expression I was looking for.
They'll draw parallels to how western society is obviously bigoted and whatnot, that's why augs are being discriminated against, in what is pretty much marxism world view preaching that men are good by nature but the shitty society corrupts them and yadda yadda.
Just because you don't want to face the reality that games can be used for agendas, much like books and movies, it simply doesn't go away.
Also blacks can also be left wing, ever heard of a guy named Obama? Or his mentor Frank Marshall Davis?
>>344650482
>They'll draw parallels to how western society is obviously bigoted and whatnot
Why are you assuming this?
So far we haven't seen anything like it.
>that's why augs are being discriminated against
they're being discriminated against because they murdered millions of people in their thirst for human advancement, go play HR
It's not me who doesn't want to face reality, you're just a paranoid retard who can't stop looking for 2nd intent in everything.
Deus Ex is, in its nature, social commentary and has always focused on human nature and conspiracy theories. If you don't like it just because we're living in a time where sjw retards screaming racism are the majority, that's too bad for you. Until you can show me evidence of the developers drawing parallels between augs and real word racism and bigotry, and hating white people, you're just a paranoid fag who probably just arrived on /pol/ 1 week ago and unironically believes everything that is posted there.
>>344650016
Seems like you're lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86FvagG17M0
Now you execute takedowns and you stay in cover, so you don't need to be exposed to alert, ie out of cover, to take enemies out.
>>344650482
m8 HR had the same themes, its literally unrelated to whatever the fck is happening in europe right now, you /pol/tards keep thinking you are so superior but the truth is you are barely human, just look at your posts, man
>>344649882
Yes, it was a criticism at launch, some guy even fucking released a deus ex mod mocking it. People still liked the game quite a bit, not as a deus ex prequel but rather something different. It was no flop and you could see how they'd follow on a similar formula instead of changing it for those 30 people who complained at launch and ended up not playing the game.
Shit the original had quite the clunky mechanics too. The gunplay was abhorrent. The shifter mod was almost necessary to truly enjoy it past the story.
To answer your question, I didn't even hint at those being good things, calm your tits. I think it would benefit from non-quick ways of killing people. HR felt too easy with the stealth aspects.
>>344650247
Yeah, even downgraded it is still the best looking RPG out there and has plenty of content and shit to do.
>>344649948
Yes, because he's a massive retard who can't handle even mild criticism and doesn't realise most anti-SJWs would consider him an SJW.
>>344650739
Just go try it out. You can spam Q and it will trigger a takedown from cover, I've done it multiple times. I don't remember if you spawn back in cover or in 1st person view though, but I think it's the latter.
Seems like a problem with you and not the games, OP
>>344650482
nah dude it's sci-fi
it takes an ethical question that doesn't apply to real life yet and explores it and how it could effect society
The idea is
"hey imagine how it would fuck up society if cybernetic implants got really advanced really quickly", not "lets push a pre-existing political narrative via a cool metaphor
Are we so deep in le contrarian meme that we pretend that MGSV, Witcher 3, and DS3 are bad games ?
i remember /v/ was shitting on HR back in 2010 and 2011 just like this and when the betaleaked on purposethey went frothing mad over it in a good way
i pre ordered itone of the last i might adand enjoyed it
GOTY for me it shat over portal 2
>>344651021
have been since late 2011
>>344651119
>beta ''''''''''leak'''''''''''''
kek, literally everyone loved the game so much shitposting got snuffed out and all the dx1 elitists couldn't voice fuck all because everyone was too busy getting hyped over HR
Best marketing move ever.
Contain your hype, seriously.
>>344651226
i miss those days
now all we get is shit beta leaks or dumb shit like games going f2p
>>344641354
>>Fallout 4
don't give a flying fuck. gameplay of all Howards games looks archaic to me.
>>MGSV
best. game. ever. it feels like metal gear unlimited. endless replayability. perfect sent off to the franchise.
>>Witcher 3
sure the combat is worse when compared to Dark Souls and Dragons Dogma but it's still an improvement over the second game and overall it's pretty solid.
>>Dark Souls 3
more linear but very majestic. it lives up to the notion of telling a story without words. it's a reverse pilgrimage.
>>344650729
It is a western society they showed, the whole theme of apartheid is obviously a callback to muh racism. You can't see a parallel between "mechanical apartheid" and "apartheid"?
Can't you see what they're going for when they make a train with an obvious separation between augs/nonaugs and even even shove your face in the theme in the trailer? I mean it's not even remotely subtle.
>Deus Ex in its nature is social commentary
Fuck off, you clearly didn't play the first game. Tell me where it has any of this "social commentary". Anna being jealous of how advanced JC is doesn't fit the criteria.
>>344641354
>Deus Ex
>No mention of Final Fantasy XV
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed faggot OPEE.
>>344651506
play human revolution you subhuman retard, this has literally been built up since that game
hot damn
>>344650860
Even if we go by your version of takedowns from cover in HR, beijng able to stay in cover after a takedown in MD would still make it easier. I don't have HR installed to test it.
>>344647450
>Where did that happen?
The bar lady in the first deus ex was a mech. Go play the game and talk to her, senpai.
>>344651660
The whole debacle of Human Revolution, that if you get mech augs you can be easily controlled was pretty bad if you ask me. It was just another instance of HR being inferior to the original.
>>344647158
Protip: people don't get whiter with age.
>>344651961
that's not the point but thematically HR is easily above DX1
>>344648914
But he's not or he'd have told him to fuck off by now.
I am conflicted.
I didn't dislike the first 5 minutes of TW3. The issue is, the game runs like shit on my computer. Therefore it's shit, right? That's how it works, should not need anything above a tree fiddy
>>344652037
>thematically HR is easily above DX1
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQ2E-psXe8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-bijO3uEw
>>344652224
nah
>>344648742
If anything Deus Ex has always presented the world in somewhat realistic light.
>West is weak and hypocritical
>China is totalitarian gangstas paradise
>No one talks anout nigger countries because they are irrelevant
>>344650978
Have you read a single scifi story in your life?
Extrapolating current social issues is extremely common in scifi. Imagined tech allows more polarization.
Whole cyberpunk genre is a good example as the society in classics is just an extrapolation of 80' social issues.
>>344652334
Yes it is.
One elephant in the room of HR and also MD is reverse engineering. So augs went haywire and augs killed people. So you're telling me that no one can open up mechanical augmentations and crack them? No one can make an aug free of the evil control by reverse engineering? You know, russians have built missiles by reverse engineering missiles they have found, yet the augs are some be all end all puzzles that only selected corporations can figure out in HR/MD's world.
People depend on some drug to counter the effects of early augs that have plenty of side effects. So are you telling me that nobody can make counterfeit drugs if the drugs are being used to control to aug population? Nobody can analyze the contents of the drug and determine what's in there, and break free from the control of the drug sellers?
The people outside of the corporations in Human Revolution are just fucking retarded.
>>344653165
>average consumer will rever engineer his augs he got because it was the most popular thing at the moment
yeah ok, because everyone uses linux right now and we all build our own cars
yup
Deus Ex is much more political than HR and seemingly mankind divded.
What I like about Deus Ex is the average person you speak to will talk about government, terrorism, conspiracy and economics. They are pissed off at how things are, they'll talk about things like how much they have to pay in taxes while mega corps pay nothing. How the fight against terrorism has resulted in mass surveillance and invaded the privacy of the normal citizen. It's all very much real stuff we deal with today.
Human Revolution was just some anti-aug stuff, it had conspiracy, but it was pretty much just limited to adam who uncovers it, being the super soldier he is. I get that they take place in different times, and in HR it is the introduction of advanced human augmentation, and society is not ready to the social change that comes with it (but we find out the hysteria is engineered by the illuminati) Mankind divided seems to flesh this concept out more. I think it's kind of silly, the basis of the plot seems to be people are untrusting of augmentation because of what took place in 2027 when they caused the zombie like actions and destruction. When we look at it realistically, the supposed oppressed people are the ones with $100k+ technologically advanced limbs on their bodies. Of course you can write your plot with a discrimination for it, but it seems silly. The quality of life for the average person in HR and Mankind Divided is pretty good, which isn't very cyberpunk.
Deus Ex 1 emphasizes the advanced technology - low quality of life concept commonly found in cyberpunk. An oppressive government controlled by corporations, poverty, terrorism and a plague that is wiping people out and the vaccine is only going to the rich as the poor continue to suffer. People are living in slums and even underground it's so bad.
>>344641354
Witcher 3 and DS3 were good. Stop being a whiny bitch.
I agree FO4 sucked ass and MGSV wasn't finished for shit. It felt more like an empty tech demo.
But yeah Deus Ex and Dishonored 2 are my most anticipated games.
>>344653368
>average consumer
I never said that though. But would there be a market for non-evil-corporation augs? Yes. Would there be people willing to crack open augs? Yes.
You know that there are small startups sending rockets into space these days, without the gigantic funding of NASA, right? Something that would be huge as mechanical augs that can drastically change what one person can do would be under intense reverse engineering pressure, and competition. You and HR's world vastly underestimate people.
we're getting there with cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQJkkchTi4
>>344653165
The compatibility issue is based on real medical issue with inserting foreign object in body. Those drugs aren't cheap or easy to make either.
In HR I pretty certain that there is a black market for the drugs, stealing it from corporations was shown in a sidequest. Someone making it in their basement is only logical but it wouldn't make the stuff any cheaper.
>August - Mankind Divided
>September - FFXV
>October - The Last Guardian
>November - Rise of the Tomb Raider
>December - Gravity Rush 2Maybe
>January - Resident Evil 7
>February - Persona 5/For Honor/Horizon
>March - Zelda Breath of the Wild
These next 9 months will restore my faith in gaming or kill it forever.
>>344643304
>superhero with awesome super powers instead
You don't have to play like this you know.
>>344654230
just because hr doesn't specifically show it doesn't mean its not there, what the fuck do you think tong does?
>>344653548
I think Deus Ex dealt with many themes in a good way, it never felt preachy. Human Revolution felt forced for the lack of a better word, with the protests and shit.
>>344653548
>When we look at it realistically, the supposed oppressed people are the ones with $100k+ technologically advanced limbs on their bodies.
Well, nowadays we have middle-high class people promoting the idea (and being hugely protected and followed) that they are being oppressed while the low class can't say a word or express themselves publicly. The loudest voices are coming from the most privileged. Meanwhile, a topic such as "the government is being evil" is extremely simple at this point, everyone will agree with you, very few would give a proper argument. In my country shitting on the prime minister and complaining about economics is pretty much like saying snow is white.
I would say the most impressive thing about DX is the time at which it was released. Were it to come out now, maybe with updated graphics and/or gameplay but with a similar script, people wouldn't give too much of a thought simply because it's a horse that has been beaten to death at this point.
>>344654342
>November - Rise of the Tomb Raider
giggle
>>344654230
Wasn't Sarif actually a sort of non-evil corporation? At least on cyberpunk standards.
Startups probably would never get close to clinical testing (remember that these are medical technologies and require exstensive bureaucracy) before being bought by Illuminati or whoever.
>>344654256
generic drugs, same substances in them and whatnot, the drug would be pretty damn important for only a select few to be able to produce it
>>344654409
They built the entire world of MD under the guise of "we need to segregate because augs may go haywire", it seems.
>just because it isn't there
So you accept this missing element in HR is retarded, right?
Also the last level of Human Revolution was pure cancer.
>>344646816
What? Social inequality has been a thing in cyberpunk since forever. For example, blade runner was about hunting down escaped clone slaves.
I want new shitters who try and act deep to leave.
>>344647898
Confirmed for never played the original.
So all the bums addicted to zyme meant nothing to you? The conversation with the Hong Kong bartender never happened?
>>344654992
its not retarded at all, you're just nitpicking it because its not directly in your face, what about a certain level where there are stolen augs grafted out of people laying about, the same ones that take out maliks augs if you leave her behind, those are pretty in your face and its obvious they hack the augs.
>>344655110
you could also say the police state of affairs Blade Runner is reaching approaches regimes like Cuba, North Korea, China, the undisputed kings of social inequality
>>344654392
Just because you're playing Clark Kent that doesn't mean you're not still Superman
>>344647898
>marxist propaganda
kys
>>344654605
Where do you see middle-high class people promoting the idea they are oppressed?
>>344654992
Aren't pharma companies entitled to an exclusivity period before generics are allowed? The aug tech isn't that old in the game.
Besides it doesn't matter if the drug comes from Bubba's shed or India if it is illegal. You still have to get it from a dealer and prices will be through the roof.
>>344655639
Shit I don't know
People ITT seem to be misinterpreting this whole apartheid thing. The game is still very much focused on unravelling the conspiracy, apartheid is only a setting, a part of world-building. No, we won't be liberating augs from the getthos in the name of social justice. So I don't think it is fair to say the game has some sort of social agenda, at least without playing the game. And so far, augs aren't really harmless dindu nuffins, many radicalised and carry out terrorist attacks against the civilians.
>>344655437
yet the augs are still in control of the evil guys, and even after people had all kinds of problems with them, the only way to do it was to segregate, instead of hacking them open? Dunno the latter option seems a much more plausible thing to do.
>>344655646
The whole drug subject would also be under intense pressure for generics and alternatives, this isn't cough medicine, this is a drug that allows people who needed to have augs, say someone who lost a limb to have a better quality of life.
>>344653165
There is a scientist character in the new game who is an off-the-grid tinkerer like you're describing. I think he gives Jensen his special new upgrades, or figures out how they work for you.
>Sarif gets defensive when Jensen confronts him but they stay tight in the end
>calling it
>>344656141
gee its not like there's a whole organization behind it all (probably) wanting to weaken society or anything
>>344654605
The fact the things the 15 years old Deus Ex talks about are still relevant to this day, says something.
it also helps DX not only had top tier story but the choices gameplay was on point and is still unmatched to this day
>>344641354
>Human Revolution: Ubisoft Edition
>the one that will save gaming
ok..
New Hitman is good though.
>>344656483
It's a shame the biggest choice couldn't be made, which was to work with UNATCO.
>>344656380
sounds like a cop out for bad writing, one thing is a group wanting to control and weaken society, the other is not having any options to resist its grasp, which seems to be the underlying theme of HR
>>344641354
>>Witcher 3
>>Dark Souls 3
>huge disappointments
Kill yourself my man. Nothing in this world will ever satiate your retarded needs
>>344656882
sounds like you're nitpicking to me
>>344656973
sounds like excuses for bad writing to me
>>344648914
>denuvo
>intrusive
???
you can't see it
it doesn't have any effect on performance
It's only intrusive on /v/ where poorfags cry about it.
>>344657048
we aren't talking about dx1 my man
>>344657107
I think the only argument against Denuvo is how it makes mods harder to do, but Human revolution didn't allow mods, right
In Deus Ex Human Revolution, they are under corporate control already. Augmentation is like the leading business when it comes to medical care and technology. The government did things like forcing veterans who lost limbs to get augmentations, likely a cost subsidized by the government. This forced the augmented individual into a lifelong taxation through neuropozyne prescriptions - they were paying to keep their augs working, or else they faced augmentation rejection and illness as a result. It was a scheme by the corporations.
Doesn't make sense that they would throw augs into segregated ghettos and an apartheid system. The demonization of augs is no good for those in power.
>>344657250
That's not the only argument. The other argument is piracy. People want to download this shit without paying.
>>344657250
not all games allow RELEVANT mods anyway
most of the games that do either use old and well know engines (source/whatever skyrim and fallout3/nv/4 was on) or supply modkit (witcher)
>>344657509
I meant the valid argument as why Denuvo harms paying players.
>>344657256
>>344657256
Couldn't they just remove the augs if they were so much of a hassle? That's the thing that annoys me in those new deus ex games, everything is so black and white. Augs are bad cuz u get controlled by corporations! Sure, just take them away? I'll take the crutch over being raped nonstop, is that an option?
Kind of in the same shoes. I was only looking forward to Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 out of those. Witcher 3 was utter shit, DS3 was passable but still a healthy dose of disappointment.
As for DX3
>Sarif has a new voice
>no Pritchard
>more focus given to action gameplay
I'm worried, man. At the very least Warhammer Total War ended up being okay so there's something positive in these dark fucking times.
>>344657706
>no Pritchard
How do you know?
>more focus given to action gameplay
Because it needed fixing the most.
>>344657048
It is not like its a cyberpunk dystopia, which is an extrapolation of the worst corporate and neoliberal practices in the 70's and 80'.
When corporate lobby can block cheaper and more efficient alternatives in the real world what do you think happens when you turn that lobby into global conspiracy?
Although you might say its bad writing, you wouldn't be the first to say that about speculative fiction in general.
>>344641354
Honestly, I think you're just jaded if you didn't enjoy any part of any of those games. Not to mention that strictly looking forward to AAA sequels is a pretty bad idea in general, as all the big name games are being casualized to appeal to as many people as possible.
Take me for example, I'm looking forward to Resident Evil VII and Final Fantasy XV, but I'm not hinging everything on those alone. If they suck, oh well. There's several games in each series that I'm not crazy about already. So what's one more?
And I think that's a huge factor as well. People seem to think that one bad entry in a big series will "ruin" the whole thing. But in reality, a bad entry can serve as a reality check for a developer, which can turn a series around, rather than end it.
>>344657651
>removing augs to get free of the drug.
That happens in the game so I'm inclined to believe you never played it.
>>344657828
you can just not fucking obey, it's called civil disobedience
you could also get non-aug prosthetic leg instead of an aug leg that means you need to take the expensive and getting scarce by the day drug, or you could just get a crutch, or a fucking wheelchair
Sometimes things don't work and people go back to what worked, that's not an option in the HR world, where people are having seizures and shit over their mechanical parts but seem to have no way out.
>>344658053
What was it, the drug made people addicted to it? There are drug rehab clinics. During HR people were clearly suffering from having mechanical augs.
>>344647356
That's because you're a moron who doesn't realize that Fallout isn't a post-apocalyptic setting; it's a post post-apocalyptic setting set 200 years after the bombs fell. Look at Chernobyl, there are green forests and the place was a site of a nuclear meltdown which is worse than a bomb. Society would be rebuilt and the only reason society in Fallout lore isn't nearing pre-war status is because of shit like the Super Mutants.
The grey and lifeless Fallout world we see in Bethesda games are retarded and they've completely missed the point of the series.
if you constantly play sequels and AAA franchises you're bound to be disappointed, branch out, try new games
>>344658135
Are you implying that there is no conflict or protest surrounding the aug issue in HR?
I can agree that the antiaug side isn't fleshed out enough, the cyberwhores being pretty much the only worthwhile example. The discrepancy might have something to do with the cut hubs though.
>>344658642
The protest are "augs are not normal", and it lacks the "drug X should have no patent", "open-aug movement" to counter the oligopoly and control corporations have over augs, and this kind of shit.
instead you get augs and that update you can take or skip, and every aug is fucked, this is missing some gray area and nuance overall
>>344658349
Drug wasn't addicting, if you didn't take it body attacked the biochip interface causing pain and loss of control. Rejection syndrome is a real thing after all.
Zeke had at least an aug eye but combination of lack of money for the drug and possible ptsd made him go rampaging in a shopping center. His brother surgically removed it and poof no more need for drug.
>2016
>still playing open world games
Open world games are the generic cash ins from lazy developers these days. I think the last good open world game was gravity Rush
>>344658890
I blame the cyberpunk genre roots for excluding those viewpoints. The social protest took a different form back then.
You couldn't really call out for solidarity as easily especially if the opponent was a corporate entity because that would have made you a godless communist.
>>344645547
3 plays nothing like 2 though
>>344658921
That's a pretty good argument for removing augs from your body since it's creating more problems than helping, with the seizures and withdrawal and whatnot. Just get an eyepatch or a very low tech prosthetic, a hook for a hand or whatever.
The problem of HR's world is that this detail seems completely loss on the developers, people seem absolutely powerless to prevent others from controlling them via augs. You could just say fuck off to this technology if it's not helping you, sounds like the reasonable thing to do.
>>344641354
>not dishonored 2
>>344659545
> female lead
Dropped
>>344659387
If it happens in the game and is talked about in it probably means that it isn't an isolated incident.
The problem with the story is that you have to patch the anti-aug argument from small snippets and sidestories while everyone can immediately see how fucking cool Adam is.
>>344659632
>so insecure i cant play as a girl
>>344659235
I think this is just the developers and writers showing their limitations. JC makes plenty of good arguments in the first game against invasion of privacy, the power of government and corporations over individuals and whatnot. He's also very naive early on.
They simply had better writers at Ion Storm Austin compared to what Eidos Montreal has now.
>>344659632
You can play as Corvo too idiot
>>344659674
>everyone can immediately see how fucking cool Adam is
Not if aug was popular among thugs, mercs, and aug-men are better at your job than you.
adam also dress like a school shooter.
>>344659545
This. I'm very excited for it. Everything looks great and it seems like I will enjoy it a lot.
That said it could also turn out to be shit but time will tell.
>>344659752
KYS
>>344659850
>playing as the secondary character
>>344652004
He'd know that if he weren't underage
>>344659545
Like someone said in other thread, Dishonored found a way to integrate killing animations while still giving the player control of what he's doing, ie air assassinations.
With Takedown Revolution, this was not the case.
>>344659797
The writing overall was probably better in the original but the arguments stayed more on the philosophical level whileHR relied on world building to present its arguments about real issues.
Deus Ex might have come out as smarter in general but HR still had great individual parts even if the big picture was full of holes.
>>344651021
MgsV is bad. You're a contrarian if you think it's good.
>all AAA shit
>>344652004
KYS
>>344660117
DX talked about real issues all the time, HR tries to go into some issues, but tramples all over the place and glances over obvious shit like people wanting out of the aug ride after the very first event where people couldn't even move thanks to the all-controlling augs.
>>344660082
>Dishonored found a way to integrate killing animations while still giving the player control of what he's doing
like assasin creed?
it's death simple to mesh melee with takedown in 2016, even bethesda can do that. eidos just chose style over substance.
>>344643304
>Deus Ex was about an agent with access to interesting skills and abilities.
Ah fuck right off.
Playing as JC Denton was just playing a goofy dork swinging a baton around.
It was playing as Adam which felt like you were actually playing a strong augmented man.
I have hundred hours in both Deus Ex and Human Revolution and it is my honest opinion that Human Revolution is the better game.
>>344660506
The difference is that AssCreed has automated climbing while Dishonored you do it, shit stealth, and the games aren't even about assassination anymore, it's random side bullshit, shitty naval combat, guild management and whatnot.
Dishonored is simply better at assassinations and stealth than Assassin's Creed. More options on how to do it, more control to the player.
AssCreed assassinations are a linear thing, follow the bushes and murder the guy.
>>344660506
>eidos just chose style over substance.
Yeah, and they shouldn't have.
>>344646692
This has to be the most pointless post I have ever read
>>344660713
>AssCreed assassinations are a linear thing, follow the bushes and murder the guy.
So is Dishonored but you just have the option not to.
>>344660082
This desu.
Dishonored not only did lethal and nonlethal takedowns better, it also made body carrying better. You know, like back in Deus Ex 1.
Dragging bodies feels sluggish, a "pick body up" option would be infinitely superior.
>>344660478
I might be overly defensive over HR because I enjoyed it, just like I did the original.
The writing was disjointed but it was still much better than what we get in most modern games.
Issue of technology and corporate greed eating jobs and intensifying divide between haves have have nots is quite real and while the writers could have done better job presenting their argument they didn't completely flunk it either.
>>344660854
That's a big difference. There are multiple ways to kill a target in Dishonored, you might want to go non lethal, while AC games are as limited as you can get.
>>344661241
There's multiple ways to do EVERYTHING in Dishonored, that's why I love it so much.
I am extremely concerned, but I still have faith, since they DID deliver us HR.
>>344660584
or you could specialize in heavy weaponry and turn everything to gibs and scraps of metal, or you could specialize in infiltration and avoid conflict altogether
The first game required you to specialize in both skills and augs to get shit done. HR allows you to use anything from the get go.
>>344661414
Multiple ways to not make the sequel shit. And yet they did the one thing to guarantee it will be.
>>344662236
What?
>>344662323
Not him, but
The female lead
>>344662380
Oh, you're just memeing then. Nevermind.
>>344662643
kys
Sneaking around nonlethally memorizing movement patterns got boring really fast thank god for the machine gun and explosive rounds revolver.
Also, fuck the terribly looking maps, devoid of people and any moving traffic.
And the story leading you on with its Illumurrati hook only to go nowhere but here's your body horror aspect we denied you throughout, have a brain array machine. And 3 options that don't matter.
Worse than Mass Effect 3.
>>344662773
kys
>>344641354
God damn you're so autistic.
>Fallout 4
Not even that bad. Just needs a little modding to make it better. Definitely a few inexcusable things that Bethesda should have fixed for a triple A title; starting with shit frame rate in some spots and some fucked up character models with blurry textures. Dialogue was a huge mistake, but it can be modded to fix it. Is it garbage? Absolutely not. I had a great time playing it, which is why I play video games.
>MGSV
Haven't played it.
>TW3
You're actually a fucking idiot if you think this game is bad. It has unanimous critical acclaim, and everyone I have ever talked to about it says it's awesome. The lore is amazing, the combat is fun and intuitive if you play on hard settings and the world is expansive and beautiful. It's a 10/10 game no questions asked.
>DS3
Haven't played it yet, but if it's anything like DS1 or DS2, it's awesome.
>>344641354
>looking forward to generic RPGs
I bet you have a triforce tramp stamp too you fucking casual
>>344660234
Stop listening to /v/ and actually fucking play it you retarded faggot. Like the story or not, it's FAR from being a bad game.
You need to play more games if you think mgsv is a bad game
Let's see how this game ties into the original before you spew marxist propaganda.
