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STR or DEX?
>>344640646
PER
It depends on the game.
Demon's Souls:
>literally doesn't matter
>both are pretty much equivalent in power
Dark Souls:
>again doesn't matter really
>STR does have a slight edge over DEX
Dark Souls 2:
>STR no question
>it will rape literally anything in the game just grab a fucking club and go ham
Dark Souls 3:
>both are once again pretty equivalent
>DEX may have a higher edge because some bosses are quite agile and move extremely fast for their movesets (e.g. Pontiff Sulyvhan)
Bloodborne:
>Skill fucking wrecks for the speed
>>344640646
Charisma to cuck everyone in my way
CHAR
>>344640646
INT
3 points in DRAG
Daily reminder that Oberyn won but got too fucking cocky and played with his food.
>>344641262
all the pretty shots and framing in that episode cant make up for the complete void of character that is jon snow
>>344641481
In a philosophical since, Oberyn did win. In a literal sense, no he didn't.
>>344641481
Revenge is a hollow pursuit. He had it coming.
STR and CHA master race
Get the people behind you with overwhelming charisma, create an army.
Crush naysayers and minions of evil with your might
>>344640646
10 Luck + jinxed
I'll score critical hits and you'll critically miss with your great club and hit yourself on the head
In any decent tabletop/videogame STR essentially is DEX depending on your character. To be high in one and low in the other represents some disorder. It's better represented by a high or low skill in the type of weapon you're using.
>>344641418
+10 into Brown Water skill also
>>344641101
im afraid of leveling up. enemies scale up with you right? i only leveled up enough to use the uchigatana in 3. now im around where i can fight the deacons of the deep or the skeleton guys at the poison swamp. should i level up or just stay low
>wants to kill lannisters for what happened to Oberyn
Never again will Dorne be ruled by weak men
*precedes to kill Oberyns family
>>344640646
Max all stats by cheating of course
>>344641841
No enemies don't scale they get stronger based on area they've never scaled, you've just been making the game harder
>>344641861
I can't believe not only did no one call DND out for making that character the opposite of what she is in the books, but actively lap it up because of how "strong" she is.
Strength, but most games go out of their way to make it shittier.
>>344641101
>Using Souls games as only examples, let alone examples in the first place
Dear god PLEASE kill yourself.
>>344640646
dex is for faggots but videogames are made by faggots so it's usually better
INT
>>344642000
Fuck trips on /v/ but honestly I can't believe how much praise the new season gets when it's honestly shit they converted it from politics with some hype action into killing and magic solves every problem
>>344642000
>I can't believe not only did no one call DND out for making that character the opposite of what she is in the books
Do you really think any book reader who isn't retarded is still watching?
>>344641576
Philosophy was his goal, it was his only reason for fighting. Had he not accomplished that he wouldn't have really accomplished anything other than killing the Mountainwhich he did anyways.
Though on second thought, all he accomplished was getting Mountain to admit the well known fact he did those things everyone knows he did. He REALLY wanted him to admit that Tywin put him up to it.Which I'm not sure but he didn't di he? He just didn't care that it happened on his watch.So Obeyrn died for no reason, and his death just lead to his beard killing what was left his actual family save his bastards. Who are her pawns.
INT
>>344640646
AGI
Who LUCK here?
>>344642117
>Not all luck
pleb
why did you start the thread with a picture of quality build vs str?
>>344642117
Wizards really are "that kid"
>you come at me with a sword? too bad, I can magic better armor than real armor
>I can magic super speed so I don't need agi
>>344642261
nothing screams 'nerd revenge fantasy' louder than magic
>>344641418
>maxed charisma
>no points in INT
>randomly stopped speccing into follower perks and lost control of dragons
literally garbage build
>>344642202
>>344642207
Luck always wins
David and Goliath is really luck vs strength
CHA/LUCK master build right here.
STR
>>344641861
she joined daenerys aka the winning side in the game of thrones, she made the right decision however retarded her reasons might've been
>>344642095
I don't know. It seems that they've hit an all time popularity peak and thebook's subredditis full of people who lap up the show's shit.
>>344641509
He doesn't really have much personality but I still like him for some reason.
>>344642080
>Specifically says STR/DEX
>The exact style it's usually stated in regards to the soul series
>>344641509
>>344642441
he's Ned Stark 2.0 with revival powers, and everyone loved Ned
>>344640646
In real life?
END with some minor DEX/STR buffing. Weapons themselves have been doing most of the legwork for a while.
In games? Just whatevers most fun to play without getting gimped.
>>344641509
Confirmed for not having read the books and thinks Jon Snow is supposed to be some hero witty faggot like Jaime or Tyrion.
>>344642437
I'm just worried how much GRRM will be influenced by that shit
IIRC he already said that one character was better in the show and how he should have written herbut I cannot for the life of me remember which one it was
>>344642507
Why do Soulsbabbies always come across as if they've never played any other games?
>>344642507
Are you saying the souls games invented the stats? Or that souls fans invented the abbreviations STR and DEX?
>>344642441
He's the least amount of completely retarded cunt that can hope for a major leader in this series to have.
He's shit but he's the least amount of shit of all his peers. So the midget among dwarves affect.
>>344641576
He also won in a literal sense. Until he got too cocky and played with his food.
>>344642674
Are you saying that the Souls games aren't the most famous/popular/first people think about/most relevant today that involve STR and DEX stats?
>>344641262
pretty sure he's LUCK more than anything else
he almost got killed by random shit about a dozen times in that battle alone only for some other random shit to come and tank the hit at the last second
>>344642765
He didn't bloody win at all then, did he m8?
>>344642814
Yes
>>344642765
He didn't win he was winning and then he lost
>>344642441
Ned had flaws in being a stubborn fuck and no mind for politics. Jon is just a sad sack of shit and his only flaws are how everyone treats him like shit.
>>344642765
He wasn't playing with his food, he had a goal. If he just finished off the Mountain it would've been a waste of his time.
>>344642507
Jesus Christ.
>>344642606
I probably won't. Unless I'm mistaken, I seem to recall George trying to distance himself from the show. A lot of DND's shitty plots right now are based on plot points that George told them or had in mind, and if they follow the trend of bastardizing things or making them simpler, they'll probably be pulled off better in the books.
>>344640646
Dexterity will win as it optimizes an attack to defend as opposed to gain strength to defend and attack.
>>344642606
I think it was Osha or Asha.
>>344640646
Stupid picture to represent, spears should be str weapons not dex but whatever.
>>344642765
>he won in a literal sense
Except when the mountain crushed his head like a rotten pumpkin and was declared the winner. I like Oberyn but he did not win in a literal sense
>>344642987
>I probably won't.
Go back to writing George
>>344643027
Thanks, it was Osha
First source I found: http://collider.com/george-r-r-martin-interview-game-of-thrones/
>Natalia Tena, who plays Osha, has really made him rethink that character, for when she returns to the story in the book
I would use spoiler tags but who the fuck still thinks any major character stays dead these days
>>344642846
>>344642883
>>344642928
>>344643119
He reached a point where if he had just walked away, he'd have won. He would have satisfied the conditions of the trial by combat. He already had the victory. But he squandered it because he had an ulterior motive.
>>344641101
>STR
>DS2
>Not enjoying glorious powerstancing
Enjoy getting avoided and destroyed by the rapier power-stance.
>>344642852
Then you're wrong, and silly. Don't expect anyone to agree with you or to take you seriously.
>>344643256
So he was winning and then he lost. At what point did he decisively win because if he ever reached that point he couldn't have lost
>>344643256
>if he had just walked away, he'd have won
Exactly, conjunctive. He would have won, but he didn't
>>344643119
It didn't go as planned, but he might have won in the end. He got a confession out of The Mountain and disgraced Tywin. The Mountain died and Doran sprung his plan into action.
>>344643205
Lel. I meant "it"
FTH
>>344643330
>At what point did he decisively win because if he ever reached that point he couldn't have lost
At the point where the Mountain was dying on the ground.
>>344643343
If you win the lottery and then spend it all on hookers and blow you still won.
>>344643398
I guess this is why they call them analgies.
>>344643398
He didn't fucking WIN though you can't win and then lose the same fight that doesn't make any sense.
>>344640646
DEX is for fags
>>344643398
The goal of the lottery is to have the winning numbers. If you satisfy that goal, you win
The goal of a duel is to kill the other guy and not die. If you half-satisfsy the first part of the goal and fail the second part, you lose
>>344641509
sorry he doesn't drink wine and talk about cocks and cunts relentlessly.
>>344643398
>If you win the lottery and then spend it all on hookers and blow you still won.
the equivalent to this metaphore would have been if Oberyn killed the Mountain and walked away, and then after being declared the winner, he committed suicide or something
>>344642416
Is this really going to end as a good guys win! series?
>>344643487
But that was not the goal of his duel. He wanted Gregor to confess murdering his sister by Tywin's murders. That's why he delayed killing him. "Revenge" on the Mountain was too short-sighted. He wanted to drag the entirety of the Lannister family's name through the mud.
Are you people fucking retarded?
>>344643461
>>344643487
Look, we all know Oberyn was the better fighter.
>>344643586
He essentially did commit suicide when he had already won.
>>344643636
*Tywin's orders
How much of Dorne is even in the show? Did they just cut out everything?
>that faggot heir who wanted to marry Dany and got fucked by a dragon
>Ser Oakheart and the entire plot with him
>>344643256
His ulterior motive was the only reason he was doing it is my point.
>>344643348
>>344643343
>>344643330
>>344643256
>>344643119
>all this talk about oberyn vs clegane fight
they both fought like complete shit, oberyn jumping around like a sissy circus faggot not even using the range of his spear to his advantage and clegane swinging his sword with openings and telescoped strikes like a fucking woman. They both deserved what they are now
I hope daenerys loses, can't stand all the normalfags rooting for her.
>>344643674
YES I KNOW BUT HE DID NOT WIN THE FIGHT HE WAS WINNNNNING ING ING UP ON UNTIL THE POINT HE LOST
>>344642093
Tyrion is low-cunning like Tywin described. All of his plans have kind of sucked, all he can really do is aggravate people.
>>344643706
You don't want to know.
>>344643759
"I only watched the show." - The post
Also using a nigger meme. Off yourself you subhuman.
>>344643674
>Look, we all know Oberyn was the better fighter.
true
>He essentially did commit suicide when he had already won.
victory was assured, but not claimed yet
the analogy with the lottery would be like if he got the numbers right, then burnt his ticket (assuming you need the ticket to claim the prize)
the dumb fuck just HAD to give the Mountain his eyes to gouge, didn't he? maybe if he hadn't drinked before fighting...
>>344643636
I see where you're coming from now
First, I'd still say he lost the duel because even if he achieved his goal he still fucking died which is what you don't want to happen in a duel
Second, I'm not so sure he even achieved that goal. It's been pretty long since I read the books but didn't the Mountain just say he killed them (which everyone knew already). I seem to remember nothing ever coming of that confession
>>344643829
why so upset about afro american twitter culture whiteboi ? did you get mugged at the subway station ?
>>344643776
But he had basically already won.
Look man all it was was a reminder that Oberyn was the better fighter but he just fucked up. You don't need to remind anyone of the actual outcome of the fight.
>>344643064
That guy in the image felt more like AGI than DEX desu
>>344643965
No, I don't live in a third world shithole like America.
>>344644015
>Look man all it was was a reminder that Oberyn was the better fighter but he just fucked up. You don't need to remind anyone of the actual outcome of the fight.
Did someone say that the Mountain was a better fighter than Oberyn in this thread?
>>344643863
I think it was more like waving the lottery ticket out your car window in celebration as you drive recklessly to collect your winnings.
>>344640646
STR/AGI, obviously. DEX can go suck a dick.
>>344644062
I always assumed DEX fighters were DEX/AGI
What would a pure DEX even look like? Great at parrying and hitting the opponent in vital spots?
>>344643957
Tywin tried to apologize by sending Gregor's skull to Dorne, but it didn't matter because he couldn't make them form a political alliance anymore.
>>344642818
God wills it.
>>344644062
AGI and DEX have been interchangeable since D&D.
It makes no sense at all, but since D&D is one of three major sources every "fantasy" game rips off these days (the other two being Tolkien and WoW), everyone just pretends it's ok.
>>344644167
Does that mean reanimated Mountain always wears a helmet because he has no head? I always thought it was because he has a zombie face
>>344644143
Pure Dex wouldn't be a fighter at all, I'd imagine. More like a pickpocket or something.
Though you could do some neat stuff with complex gesture-based magic requiring high Dex to pull off properly.
>>344644134
Look, it went like this. Someone said "Oberyn won BUT he got cocky" meaning he had already beaten the Mountain but then he fucked up. But then people were like "um no actually he didn't win because he died" but that's missing the point innit
>>344644353
>complex gesture-based magic requiring high Dex to pull off properly
Sounds like you wanna play FATAL
>>344644265
No it wasn't his skull I think someone sent Cersei a big fucking dwarf head and they sent that
>>344644370
>Someone said "Oberyn won BUT he got cocky" meaning he had already beaten the Mountain but then he fucked up
Yes and that someone is wrong.
>But then people were like "um no actually he didn't win because he died" but that's missing the point innit
It's not missing the point. That duel wasn't over until one of them died
>>344644472
Go away mr. Autist.
>>344644265
That's the implication, yes. Despite what people say, George is a decent writer and knows how to write scary stuff. Shame he spends most of his time eating or writing about food.
>>344644445
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mountain's_skull
>>344644410
I don't, though I wouldn't mind if a good game or system salvaged some of the parts of FATAL that aren't insane bullshit.
>>344643280
how's kindergarten these days?
>oberyn uses the spear like a fucking bo staff
I can't believe theres people who think he should have won.
>>344644547
Is there enough to salvage?
>>344644545
>supposedly
Also he never actually died Qyburn kept him around why the fuck would he cut his head off, and in the books they specifically bring up that the dwarf head was really god damn big
>>344641101
>not picking both
BROADSWORDU
>>344644531
truth>being ablindOberyn fan
I'm an Oberyn fan, and he lost
>>344644797
The Mountain having a really god damn big head? Impossible!
>>344644786
Sure, just imagine what you could do with all those rectum stats
>>344644797
Literally because the narrative is scarier that way. The implication is that it's his head and that Ser Robert Strong is without a head, which is why he wears a completely face concealing helmet and why he took a vow of silence.
It makes Qyburn seem more dangerous and Cersei even more insane.
Do I literally have to spell it out for you?
usually i prefer str.
str weapons are usually long. also the longer the weapon is the heavier it gets so str helps dealing with the weight.
longer weapons often have swing attacks that deal aoe dmg which obviously helps against groups of enemies.
some enemies have some kind if shields or can block which requires you to attack with a certain moveset to be able to deal dmg. the high base dmg of str weapons often help me to kill those enemies in few swings before they get their shield up again or recover and can block again.
another benefit of the high base dmg is that you are often able to one shot enemies. if you get to the point where you know the moveset of the enemy you only need one opening to kill it. one block or a side step and you oneshot it.
str weapons also often have something like stun-effects or armor penetration. not only helps the first one with channeling abilities or to interrupt the enemy, but combined with the high base dmg and armor penetration you can try your luck on higher leveled enemies.
obviously this varies from game to game and depends on it's specific mechanics but that's my general observation.
also you may have noticed that my english is not the best. sorry not sorry that not everyone is speaking it natively
>>344644896
You're not wrong but you are obnoxiously literal-minded and unwilling to consider other points of view.
It's not even close
Generally str > dex
str cha usually are my favorite first runs of a new game
>>344645594
wheres the str?
>>344645482
>point of view
it's a fact that he lost, it's not an opinion
if you want to change the meaning of words then go ahead, just don't expect people to agree with you
>>344641861
> wanting revenge for what is a legitimate trial in the world of GoT
Oberyn championed himself to Tyrion's cause, and then got his head smashed into it because of his own stupidity. And they want revenge for it?
What?
Trial by combat is a fight to the death. It's not like Oberyn was suprpised in his sleep by the Mountian who started crushing his head.
This bitch is fucking retarded.
>>344642416
>>344643593
Danearys is the badguy twist incoming
>>344645594
What anime?
>>344645801
It is a fact that Oberyn beat the Mountain.
>Speccing Str or dex in souls games
top kek
Stamina + Endurance.
>>344645950
Trial hadn't ended
Your fact would only be a fact if the viper had walked away after mountain was on the floor.
STR > VIT > INT > shit > DEX = LUK
Prove me wrong faggots
>>344645801
It is a fact that he won, and then fucked up.
By your standard Germany never won against France I guess.
>>344642604
Yeah, he's way worse of a character than those 2.
>>344645950
WIS critical fail
Didn't finish the job
>>344645875
>legitimate trial
Shouldn't Tywin actually be wanting revenge because Oberyn used poison?
>>344646057
Look man, it's not that I don't understand what happened.
It's that you don't understand what is being said.
>>344643863
The fucked thing is Oberyn has a SPEAR.
He could have tortured the Mountain painfully from a safe distance untill he confessed. But decided to prance around him.
>>344642360
>David and Goliath is really luck vs strength
No, it is faith vs strength
>>344645950
>>344646101
>>344646206
No, it's a fact that he was close to defeating him, then died horribly, losing the trial.
The trial by combat in GoT universe must end in death or yielding, and the Mountain didn't yield. But Oberyn did die.
I'm using the rules for the trial by combat from the GoT universe, which they were taking. What rules are you using to determine that Oberyn won anything?
I don't care how much he taunted, danced, pranced, whatever, he opened his guard and was punished for it.
>>344640646
>>344641481
>>344641576
>>344641612
>>344641861
Doesn't the official SOIAF RPG stats for them mean he'd have to be crazy lucky to even nick the mountain?
END
>>344644770
That's because the guy who taught Oberyn's actor his moves for the fight was a dude who specializes in staff fighting.
>>344646108
I don't want to say "it's shit on purpose" but it always felt to me like he was deliberately done as a "joke" or a commentary on kid heroes and lone wolves.
He seems like a stereotypical edgy kid protagonist of a shitty novel until it bites him in the ass because he doesn't communicate with people (and especially his plans) and comes off as a stuck up jerk.
>>344646162
Was my first post on subject.
I read:
>It is a fact that Oberyn beat the Mountain.
Which he did not, because the trail wasn't over.
He had him at the brink, but then got cocky and lost.
If he had won Tyrion wouldn't have been shipped off in a box, he would have walked free.
>>344646263
And Germany never defeated France because WW2 wasn't ended yet :^)
>STR needed to carry key items in inventory
>DEX needed to aim
JUST
>>344640646
>tfw you wanted to be a str build but all you have is above average dex and skyhigh con
Fuck
Playing DS2 right now, is it worth leveling INT at all to get magic swords and shit? In DaS I went melee only and I started doing the same in 2 but I feel like mixing it up a bit
>>344646142
As if Tywin gives a fuck. He just wanted to finally kill hisbastarddwarf son.
>>344646084
>dark souls
proved wrong
Stamina > End > all other stats in this game.
You only need enough str/dex/faith/int to equip the weapon you want, the scaling is shit.
>>344640646
Max both
>>344646206
the fighting in GOT is way dumb
open faced helmets everywhere
real life is full of quality builds
>>344646328
>le bad analogy face
just stop, go back to trying to make food analogies
>>344642604
I'm sure Jon is a better character in the books. But this is the show. If it's only excuse for poor characterization is "... but it's better in the books!" then the show has shitty writing. Which it does.
>>344646263
I don't know why you included me into this >>344646206
All I said was Oberyn could have had his precious confession without the risk of getting Clegane's sausage fingers shoved into his eyes.
I wasn't part of the he won/lost argument. Because you're right, he lost horribly.
>>344646453
What pisses me off the most is the anime armors
Can't they just get some props from a historical show or movie or buy some replicas
Only Sandor Clegane wore something that looked remotely realistic
>>344646263
>>344646326
The rules of the trial are besides the point.
Oberyn beat the Mountain. Clegane was dying and Oberyn was able to walk away.
>>344646413
>bastard
wat
>>344643674
>>344643747
>>344644015
>>344644370
Jesus Christ these mental gymnastics.
Oberyn lost. He might have, coulda, shoulda, woulda won. But he didn't. It doesn't matter what his goal was. Whether exposing clegane or twyin. His goal should've been winning. He lost even though he is the "better" fighter
>>344646536missclick
>>344646589
>Oberyn beat the Mountain
weird, I vividly remember him getting his eyes pushed into his skull and Mountain still breathing after that
but I guess what matters is only what you want, isn't it? everything right after the specific point you want to consider is null
>>344646589
I once killed a boss in an Ys game while having 1 HP left
When the boss fell over, it damaged me and killed me
I did NOT immediately run to 4chan to sperg out over how I totally won the boss fight
>>344646589
He didn't beat the mountain though. The mountain never conceded and Oberyn was not proclaimed winner of the trail.
>>344646589
Oberyn had the mountain beaten in combatshould have finished him off winning the trial, but did not beat the mountain in the trial by combat.
it's a subtle difference, but it's a difference.
>>344646298
>He seems like a stereotypical edgy kid protagonist of a shitty novel until it bites him in the ass because he doesn't communicate with people
God I hate this about Jon.
He never explains what the fuck is going on to people.
"Winter is coming"
"The true enemy is beyond the wall"
Just say: "White Walkers are fucking coming. They have a fuckhuge zombie army and everyone who dies gets added to it. We NEED to get our shit together or we all end up as fucking zombies, and then everyone dies"
But no, he decides to be extremely vague about the whole thing.
>>344646576
>Fantasy novel with MAGIC and DRAGONS
>Realistic Armor
Holy shit you people are retarded
>>344646740
>combat had ended after the Mountain was on the ground
>the Mountain catching Oberyn and killing him wasn't part of the combat
I disagree completely.
>>344641481
He cheated with poison so he has been disqualified rightfully.
>>344646824
Nobody would believe zombies to be a thing.
>>344641418
>>344646264
Oberyn special was as follows
Str: 5
Per: 5 (-2 for being drunk)
End: 7
CHa: 7
Int: 4 (-2 for being drunk)
Agi: 9
Luck: 7
>>344646690
he actually beat his head to a pulp with his armored first, just by the way
>>344646857
I want this meme to die
>>344642441
>Everyone else in the show is super passionate about justice, power or stabbing others in the back for justice or powerbarring Petyr 'm-muh chaos' Baelish
>Jon just wants to clock in, clock out and grab a beer with his brothers in black
My interpretation is that he's the guy from Office Space who just wants to fuck off and do nothing, but fate played a prank and made him the chosen one so he has to save the world even though he's miserable the entire time
>>344646863
The combat was over, then it restarted because nobody expected the mountain to crop the viper.
If you see that as uninterrupted combat then I agree with your view; if the viper hadn't been cocky he would have left mountain on the floor dying and claimed victory.
>>344646857
In the books (Which started off as War of the Roses fanfiction) people wear real life-like armor. Chainmail, breast plates, complete suits of plate armor. And the magic is gone and the first dragon is born at the end of the first book, which is heralded as the return of magic in thousands of years.
So, bar the weird way seasons work, the world of ASOIAF is magic-less until Dragons are reborn, which means that it's you who is retarded.
>>344642117
How is he even alive?
>>344646916
Good thing he has like...thousands of eye witnesses then? And even if they don't believe the wildlings, the brothers of the night's watch would vouch for him.
And keeping the White Walkers out is one of the, if not THE reason for the wall existing.
>>344646665
>>344646690
It's not mental gymnastics. It's a point of view. Not even that, it's just a way of phrasing it, really. Hence why I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just that we're not wrong either. You're just autistically literal-minded.
>>344646691
No but you could have and I would've agreed.
>>344646716
I just said the rules of the trial are besides the point.
Look, it's like you're playing a footie match and you manage to score one goal. Now, your defence is unmatched so you basically just have to ride it out to the end. But then someone passes to the keeper in the last minute and the keeper lets it through like a pillock and it's 1-1 and you lose during the penalties.
If someone said "we had already won until we fucked up" that would be a completely legitimate way of phrasing it. But then you'd be like "beep boop does not compute a winner is only declared after the playtime is over according to the rules of the game"
>>344647171
One sneeze or gust of wind could kill him though
>>344645931
Psycho Pass
>>344647126
>restarted
sheeeit someone forgot to tell the Mountain the combat was over
or rather, Oberyn thought like you people and thought the combat was over, and then got killed horribly
>>344647204
>le literal-minded
just word yourself better, and in a different way, like for example:
>Oberyn was sure to win but he fucked up
that way it makes everything clear
>>344647204
>2+2=5
>I'm not wrong and neither are you, but your autistically literal minded to think the answer is 4
>>344647008
>implying oberyn is dumb
> Got Discussion in /tv/
> People screaming bloody murder to eachother, waifufagging, etc
> GoT discussion on /v/
> Mostly civil barring the usual 4chan strong language wich is basically normal
> Vidya discussions on /v/
> People screaming bloody murder to eachother, waifufagging, etc
Why can't you assholes discuss vidya like you discuss GoT?
>>344647130
>prologue of first book has snow zombies
>no magic
kek
>>344646916
Except all the witnesses that fucking saw them? There's the wildlings and there's Sam, who saw the wights, met Coldhands and killed an Other with dragonglass.
>>344646576
I have no idea what period they are even going for
plate exists of a sort, everybody appears to use swords most of the battles devolve extremely quickly into break formation and charge into inexplicable one on one fighting with massive swings
people using sword and shield leave themselves open and do not protect their hands nor hit with the shield ever
if there was a siege in battle of the bastards what the fuck were the wild lings going to do they didn't have the sense to even try and make pikes out of long sticks
>>344647171
Magic, motherfucker.
>>344647306
You only quoted the start and missed the whole bit about how if Oberyn had not been cocky he would have claimed his victory and left mountain on floor dying.
You're right, the combat never ended for the mountain, but the judges would have called it if oberyn had just cheered and claimed victory.
instead he gets cocky and wonders over.
>>344643759
>Be huge guy
>Have to film in the middle of summer
>They dress you up in a hundred pounds of black leather armor
>Give you huge fucking sword
>The longer the shooting goes on, the armor seems heavier, and you're sweaty and tired as fuck
>Give it your best, even though your character is basically just shouting and swinging his sword
>Some faggots online complain that you don't have the years of swordfighting experience your character had and your form was shit in the blistering heat
The mountain is a real person guys, the only way you could have a well choreographed fight as the Mountain would be in a non live action adaptation
>>344647439
Prologue of the book has zombies returning after 8000 years. Prologue of the book also has people dressed sensibly. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
>>344647380
One of the first rules of 4chan is that topics are best discussed on boards not dedicated to that topic.
>>344647380
Because people like me who hate GoT just go to a different threads. People who hate vidya has nowhere else to go though.
Luck
All in
>>344642814
They aren't. Fallout has both stats and is way older and more popular with both normies and people on /v/.
>>344647204
One more time. In a philosophical sence (is clegane even really alive after the duel in a human sense?) the mountain does die later, and Oberyn got him to admit his deeds at the cost of his life. Oberyn won his little battle but lost the war of not only clearing Tyrions name but surviving as well.
Tl;dr Oberyn literally lost, almost winning but then losing is called losing
>>344647507
I like how you're trying to be tricksy by wording it as "claiming his victory" as if he won and just failed to declare it
>>344647339
Literally literally autistic.
DEX = INT > STR > CHA
>>344647559
make a Fallout thread then, good fucking luck getting replies that aren't Toddposting
>>344647516
ok anon
>>344647368
>implying a genius would drink before a fight, then continue to taunt his opponent who's on the ground during a Trial by combat
>>344647461
>most of the battles devolve extremely quickly into break formation and charge into inexplicable one on one fighting with massive swings
That's just Hollywood tactics, though.
>>344646462
>it's a bad analogy if it bothers me
not how it works
I'm in your head and I'm not getting away
>>344647590
Well, that's what I'm doing.
Are you saying if he had declared victory it wouldn't have been over?
Because you know if he had not gone near the mountain again it would have been his victory in the eyes of the judges and crowd.
Oberyn was blinded by his emotions that's why he lost.
>>344647750
>Are you saying if he had declared victory it wouldn't have been over?
Not until the Mountain was actually dead
>>344647661
>make a Fallout thread then
Why I never said I wanted to talk about Fallout. Was just pointing out you're definitely wrong. Fallout is way more popular than Souls. You might actually be autistic or a child.
>>344647530
This.
Want good DBZ discussion? Make a DBZ game thread on /v/ Same with One Piece.
I have had awesome vidya discussions on /co/
4chan is just wierd like that.
>>344647589
That's not exactly the argument we were having but regardless, no one is disagreeing with you. This is a quibble over semantics.
>>344647597
>hitler would have won if he didn't fuck up in Russia. So he won WW2
>b-b-but you're literally autistic!!
>>344647528
Is that why there's a society that dyes their facial hair blue?
>>344647597
>at this very specific point in time that lasted under 5 seconds Oberyn won guys!
you're the autist
do dexfags really believe that oberyn would have won if it was a real fight and not acted?
You people like to argue dex vs str by using real life as an argument so I don't understand why people don't just agree that str > everything else. Oberyn wasn't even using the spear properly.
>>344640646
>It's a /tv/ invasion thread
>>344647808
Poison would have killed him.
It take Qyburns experiments to keep him alive.
He could have declared and then poked mountain or just left the arena.
>>344647901
No, it's not about very specific short periods of time. It's about the fact that he bested him in combat.
>>344647461
From what I remember, battles are left out of the Books because George doesn't want to fuck them up since he doesn't have military knowledge. Action happens before and in the aftermath of battles. But, considering that Westeros is based off feudal western and central europe and there's major use of mercenaries and professional soldiers, battles in there happen just like they did in medieval europe.
Since one of the major plots of the books draws inspiration from the War of the Roses, the era is presumably in the 15th century, but without gunpowder and tercio, since gunpowder seems to not exist/hasn't been invented in the ASOIAF world.
>>344647887
How is that related to magic? It's a custom in the place he's from, and people point out how silly/strange it looks.
>>344647812
if Fallout is more popular than Souls here on /v/, how come there's way way more Souls threads and replies to these threads?
maybe you're measuring popularity based on something else? what are you basing it on then, you autistic child?
>>344647908
Bruce Lee was more DEX than STR.
>>344647960
So what you're saying is he just had to kill the Mountain to win, which is exactly the situation they started out in
>>344647187
Can't appeal to the original purpose of the wall, since lots of people interpret the wall as an aegis against the wildlings, not white walkers
>Left mountain on the ground dying
>dying
Why do I remember the guy having enough energy to flip him over, punch him in the mouth and break it, followed by gouging his eyes out after flipping him over?
Sounds more like the guy feigned his weakness.
>>344647684
>implying it has anything to do with intelligence
>>344647917
assuming phys attack does not scale directly with str which most of the time is does
or if there any kind of stat requirements
>>344648029
So?
>>344648010
Compare the sales of Dark Souls 3 to Fallout 4 you fucking mong. I'm done talking to you, you're fucking retarded. This isn't debatable.
>>344647908
You sound like you're biased towards str.
>>344648046
Still, he has eye witnesses. People do know the rumors about the walkers. He could have atleast fucking tried.
>>344648093
It has do to with the lack of intelligence. Those are very stupid things he did. Whether or not they were emotional fueled, still makes them stupid
>>344648121
No you cocksucker, it is fact.
Even professional martial artists that will kick your ass and use your weight against you will value str over dex.
>>344648102
You mentioned real life, he's pretty much the ultimate fighter so.
>>344648045
No, he could have stood still and the mountain would have died.
Or walked off in victory
Or poke him to death yes, but it's not the same situation as the start because the mountain is now on the floor poisoned.
>>344648010
Guess you must've missed the daily NV threads, a game older than Dark Souls and sequels. You're also deluding yourself if you think DS is more popular than Fallout.
>>344648119
>Fallout 4
>stats
HURRR STR IS BETTER
HURR DEX IS BETTER
Fuck that noise.
You want to know the real winners here?
QUALITY builds.
STR+DEX= winning.
>>344648224
And you win a duel by poisoning but not killing your opponent? And you can be in a state of having won the duel but still get killed by the guy who you're duelling against? That's weird considering a duel ends with death
>>344641626
Muh nigga nothings better than an army of followers loyal to you for your charm and brawn
>>344647989
i have a theory that any universe that has any form of magic whatsoever just does not progress technologically
although wow and discworld
>>344648175
Intelligent people do stupid things
>>344648279
>b-b-b-but choosing both is cheating, cucking, autistic!!
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>344648207
Yeah and he's a Quality build
>>344648207
nice b8 m8
>>344640646
Dex would had won that one, but his Int was too low.
>>344648080
>Why do I remember the guy having enough energy to flip him over
Remembered wrong lol, Oberyn actually flys to be above the mountain; gets punched, then is magically on the bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2IYyywZMs
4:40 ish.
>>344648340
Shadowrun
>>344648303
>And you can be in a state of having won the duel but still get killed by the guy who you're duelling against?
Well that's what The Mountain did
>>344648402
>4:40 ish.
You still don't know about youtube timestamps?
>>344648340
I have a theory that technology in fiction develops at the exact pace the writer wants.
>>344648402
>flys above
>gets punched
>suddenly on the ground
Right so tell me how mountain is "dying" given all the implications this scenario brings?
>>344648119
>using sales to determine popularity on /v/
>getting this mad
of course you're done talking to me, you're using sales to measure popularity on a niche porcelain viatnamese forum
you know what else sells a fuckton? Call of Duty, and that game is definetly not as popular here on /v/ as Dark Souls
>>344648254
you're the delusional one
>but there's these daily NV threads
there's, right now, 3 Souls threads (I'll pretend that this one isn't one), and 0 Fallout threads, and you'll be able to see this happen at any point during the day (though sometimes we'll have a Toddposting thread, let's pretend that that's a Fallout thread)
>>344648341
We all make mistakes/do stupid things. A mark of intelligence is using deductive reasoning and logic before the mistake happens.
Ex.) you see someone burn their hand on a stove. From then on, you decide to not touch a hot stove
Ex,) you see someone get drunk and fight someone only to get Killed due to carelessness. One might think to not drink if you have to do something physically and mentally arduous?
Thinking is hard, huh?
>>344640646
>>344648303
Well, if viper had stood there, the poison would have kill mountain, winning him the fight.
Also, poking with spear to kill.
> And you can be in a state of having won the duel but still get killed by the guy who you're duelling against?
>win duel, then kill after is possible.
duels can end with deaths or yields.
TL:DR Oberyn had the victory in his grasp, then got cocky and got himself killed.
>dex
>not agi
Getting real tired of you autists mixing these 2 up
