Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines thread
>don't open it
>ISOLATED
>lol guys I think the taxi guy is Caine
>Jeanette>Therese
>play malk lmao
>don't open it
>VV is a poseur
>LaCroix x Sheriff r34 when
>>vampire commies
>spooky house
>don't open it
>combat is shit just like the whole game get a life vampirefags
>how did you solve Vandal's quest?
>>tfw not shitposting on Schrecknet
>femtrue best girl
>DON'T OPEN IT
>>344627367
My sides when I skip 3/4 of spooky house with cheesy bug
>>344627367
>VV is a poseur
You take that shit back.
Femgrel best girl
Just how powerful is Protean in comparison to other disciplines? Can it compete with Celerity or Thaumaturgy?
Guys, I opened it
>>344628790
You had one job!
>>344628771
I played a crazy ass gangrill that pissed everyone off and failed most of the sidequests so I never had a lot of XP. I just dumped everything into Protean and went frenzy every fight.
Does anyone actually save both sisters instead of settling for Jeanette?
>>344628790
It was pretty disappointing desu senpai.
>>344628992
I always ended up getting Therese.The most amazing thing about this game is that you can crush teh werewolf, took me two playthroughs to find that.
>>344629095I always bug warewolf and I could hide in the building
I wish I could call F-A-T Larry "Oh Lord!"
>>344630997
>nossie fucking shits
>>344628450
What did you mean by this? Jumping over the collapsing staircase?
>>344630997
>tfw completely missed this charming fatty on my first playthrough
>>344627367
Do you guys roleplay to make this game more challenging?What do you roleplay as?
>>344633737
I had plans for making a Ventrue bitch.
I think she was from a rather poor family, but managed to intrigate her way up until hte embrace.
She refuses to even touch lower people and abhors "violence", making her handgun only. She also uses dominate as much as possible because she gets off on that massive power.
There was more, I think, but I can't exactly remember.
>>344634273
Nice.
>>344628992
Only kissless virgins choose Jeanette.
>mfw vtmb thread
>>344635060
I want to punch this face so hard. Guess I'm gonna replay as murderhobo and kill Nox the first time I see him.
>>344635060
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>344636275
Oh maaan, that's rude!
>>344635060
There are people in this thread who didn't kill that fucker who almost kill Heather.
>>344636652
fucking Gangrels I sware on me sire
If we shill VtMB threads hard enough will there be a sequel?
People often list Malk as the most fun clan but I actually had more fun with my stealthy burglar-hax0r Nosferatu you don't even have to move via sewers you can just walk around the city and as long as you won't bump into anyone you won't lose the masquerade points.
Harley Quinn has nice tits.
>>344638139
Who do you think is making these, neon8?
>>344638531
Nostalgia fags?
>you will never have your own vampire sex slave
>>344638531
it still scored over 300 votes in the Voerman poll in few hours
> reinstall
> install plus patch
> start charismatic Toreador gunslinger playthrough
> help Heather
> do quests
> get to Downtown
> fat Larry next to car park, not in the alley next to Confession
> Heather talks to me, tell her to wait at my apartment
> "I know where that is, I checked there first"
> go see Prince, he gives me the Downtown apartment
> Heather isn't there
> check Santa Monica apartment
> no Heather, no laptop, just Deb and an empty fridge
> check back at Downtown apartment periodically
> no Heather throughout the entire game
> Hallowbrook hotel
> lobby level not present, go straight to rundown part like in vanilla game
> Heather gets killed
> literally saw her thee times in the game
What the fuck, Vampire?
>>344638673
Well, I'm sure Paradox are nostalgiafags.
>Try my hand at modding the game for the first time
>Reskinning models is fairly easy, all you need is a VPK extractor to grab the files and Photoshop, then you can fuck around with the folders
>Try to edit meshes
>Almost turn mad trying to make sense out of the shitty outdated Valve proprietary formats
I can almost hear Malkav whispering sweet nothings to my ear. Why do they always have to make modelling so difficult?
>>344639051
Even with the unofficial patch the game sometimes does weird shit. One playthrough everytime I entered Skyeline apartments the entire building would be filled with random objects. Sometimes it would be filing cabinets, other times phones, sometimes couches.
>>344628613
All she does is write shitty teenager-grade poetry and occasionally strip naked
>>344635060
I love how you can immediately tell what his deal is if you're a Malk or have high enough investigation.
>>344628771
Protean up to level 2 is great, afterwards it turns shitty because the war form combos are actually a downgrade over the regular brawl ones
>>344639227
Yeah, that happened too.
Also I couldn't go through doors sometimes because cans would randomly spawn in the door frame or something.
> keep trying to push through or to remove the can by hand
> die from knockback
>>344639051
I'm currently replaying it with wesp's newest patch
all stuff is where it was supposed to be in the first place, just the bugs are fixed
>>344639161
As far as I know nobody managed to add new models to game. People just reuse already existed ones.
>>344628613
She's young and used to be a stripper. It's not like all vampires were philosopher kings in their mortal days, she strictly manipulates by appealing to your sex drive.
>>344639337
There's been a few, but all I wanted was swap a player model head for a NPC one I liked. I didn't expedt to go down that deep into the rabbit hole
>>344639294
you get war form at level 5 though. until level 4 protean is excellent
>>344639395Well it's working.
>>344639227
that's data leaking. it happens if you play the game for too long without a break
>>344639395
Susan's a slut
>>344639648
DON'T CALL HER THAT
>>344627367
>vampire thread
so what the fuck is paradox doing?
>>344639760
They are making the Nosferatu faces DLC
>>344639760
Funposting on schreknet.
>>344639760
Stellaris
>>344639760
Messing with WoD tabletop.
Obsidian is busy with their own projects, so Paradox is either waiting or looking for someone else to make the game.
>>344639395
>Not being a Malkavian so you're so far out of your own skull reproductive systems and sex appear like old Mesomatopian myths
>>344639961
What're they doing with the tabletop? Last I heard was that awful Beast game, but I think that was right before Paradox bought them.
>>344639760
Obsidian WoD game when?
Why is she such a hopeless tsundere lads?
>>344639979
I always figured lust and such had to do with your humanity points. Simply being a Malk doesn't explain Jeanette.
>>344641463
>when Damsel goes full Tsundere before meeting Nines
Best girl
>>344641463
>>344642009
Dat low-poly facial animation, you can get what she's putting across.
>>344627367
I'd create coterie with her if you know what i mean.
>>344642009
>tsundere
>best
Anon, please.
>>344627367
Top Tier:
>Damsel
>VV
>Venus
Mid Tier:
>Heather
>Pisha
>Yukie
Low Tier:
>Therese
>Jeanette
Shit Tier:
>Ming Xaio
>Imalia
>>344643381
>top tier
>no Rosa
One job, neonate.
>>344641463
>>344642009
She just wants you to do what's best for yourself, Cammy.
>>344642774
>tsundere not being best
>>344643381
>Heather not being top-tier
Thoughtful enough to bring home dinner
>Therese and Jeanette not being mid-tier at least
>No Venus
Disappointed, neon8
>>344627367
I bet you opened it faggot.
So was Jeanette Therese's imaginary friend? Were they really sisters before the embrace? Let's hear your theories.
>>344643564
Who?
>>344643641
Heather is nice buther face is kind of ugly.Therese is too bitchy (and not good bitchy like Damsel) and Jeanette is too much of a slut. Also Venus was there.
>>344643794
Not this shit again.
>>344643883
>Who?
That's it, you fucked up, kiddo.
>another thread for memers pretending to talk about video games while actually just memeing
sick!
>>344639961
I thought they took one look at tabletop's weak ass profits and noped right out of there, happy to leave Onyx Path to make their shitty nwod games nobody but their fanboys actually like.
>>344644147
Feel free to fuck off to your Uncharted 4 thread. I heard the story is very emotional, and the crumbling rocks are TECHNOLOGY POWER OF PS4THEBIGGUY4YOU4THEPLAYERS... WOW...
when were you when Our Lord Grout researched the curse?
>>344644147
>mad cuz he opened it
>>344644330
Balls deep in VV
>>344628992
I do, every rerun.
>>344643883
>Heather is nice but
Glasses, though. And she's sweet, devoted, and... with a body like that, her face isn't /that/ bad. Still, fair enough that you didn't have her top-tier.Sorry about that, turns out I'm just fucking blind.
>>344644538
>not playing a qt vampire girl
>>344644294
>only Ventrue in the game is that retard Lacroix
Best clan needs better representation
>>344636732
Who?
>>344644830
>>qt vampire girl
>not just switching it up depending on your clan
I WAS THERE NEWBIE
THE GREAT DEPRESSION
IT WAS GREAT AND DEPRESSING
>>344645007
why does Nines have such a healthy complexion
>>344628992
every time. I'd also pick Therese over Jeanette just because I have a nylons and glasses fetish.
>>344641743
She's a Malkavian that thinks she's two nonMalks.
>>344644917
I think that serial killer did it.
I try to talk him out of it, every time.
>>344645091
Shut up you goddamn cammy!
YOU GUYS ARE ALL THE SAME
>>344644830
I think it's the nose maybe? I dunno, something about her face is really 'off' to me. I mean it's not the glasses or anything because you can have her without them.Still, fuck, considering moving her to top tier now.
>>344645091
He's a spic
Melanin doesn't go away with death
>>344644830
Doesn't one of her outfits remove the glasses?
>>344639395
>Miss Anything For Three Hundred
>>344645148
Why would he attack her? And i doubt that she could survive meeting with him.
>>344645091
You can use blood to "freshen up" and look more lively in the tabletop game. It's recommended if you want to pass as human, otherwise you look kinda weird.
does he bite exclusively goyim
>>344629095
Mfw the werewolves that attacked nines and the player were luckily probably just some young reckless garou that were out to kill some trespassing blood suckers and not something like a black spiral dancer jacked up on wyrm corruption. Some of the werewolf tribes/factions are fucking terrifying.
>>344639395
Vampires don't have sex drives anymore.
Recent embraces do tend to have a sort of memory of what they OUGHT to feel like as a human though, so might work on them.
>>344639294
I kinda disappointed, i wanted to do next replay with gangrel focused on warform.
>>344643381
Who would bring himself to like Yuki?
wasn't Ash Rivers a known actor? how the fuck does he maintain the masquerade
>>344645591
Warform is ugly anyway, you aren't missing out on anything
>>344645449
It's kinda weird that a jew would be a brujah. You'd think god's chosen people would prefer ventrue or possibly tremere. (Or just have their own little sect of weirdos, as with the setites/assamites)
>>344645617
He started being unable to act after he was Embraced, which is what he hates Isaac for
>>344645713
he's a toreador though, VV's sire
Stupid Cammy! I'm only here because you joined the Anarchs, n-not because I like you. S-so don't get the wrong idea, got it?! Baka!
>>344645753
He's Ash sire.
>>344645591
Warform is just a shitty Garou wannabe form. I hope whatever Paradox has planned, they'll be more faithful to the tabletop with regards to disciplines. Protean 5 is mist form, not fucking werewolf form. And Protean 4 should enable you to become a flying animal for ease of travelling. Protean in VTMB is strictly for murderhoboing, no utility.
That reminds me, I also hope they'll include a day/night cycle, where you have to watch your ass so you don't get caught outside in the open. (Protean 3 would make things a lot simpler.)
>>344645598
She plays on all the corny cliches I like.
>>344645859
you can sire as many childer as you want as long as it's square with LaCroix
>>344645929
I just pointed that he didn't embrace her.
>>344645753
Ah fuck, you're right. And that makes a lot more sense too.
>>344645784
Fuck that bitch and her daddy issues.
>>344645753
He calls VV his "step childe" or something. I think VV's sire is never mentioned. Ash is his genuine legit childe though.
If you could have one discipline in real life, which would it be?
Vicissitude sounds like fun, but sort of dangerous if you mess up. I'd probably go with protean, since you can transform into animals. Auspex is another close contender.
>>344646171
presence or dominate
>>344646171
Domination.
>>344646171
Obfuscate.
Imagine how comfy it'd be to just watch the world going on around you while invisible.
>>344646291
>>344646302
Why? I mean, you could get people to give you shit and kill themselves, but that's not impossible for a person to do already, you just need to practice your charisma. Compare to Auspex where you get like super-senses, spider-sense, telepathy, astral projection and aura vision. A bit more exciting than just being able to dick people over.
>>344627367
Give it to me straight, /v/.
I'm playing a ventrue. But I have him combat ready too, I've raised strength/stamina/dex a bit too, besids social attributes and have several points in firearms and melee.
Will I go through the sewers on my own, or will have to use cheats?
>>344646527
Just make sure you have blood packs and you'll be fine.
>>344646509
>that's not impossible for a person to do already, you just need to practice your charisma
>>344646412
Yeah, pretty comfy I guess, especially with tabletop rules instead of VTMB-style.
>impersonate anyone
>make other people invisible as well
>vanish while people are looking directly at you
>>344646527
Bring a melee weapon with you and you'll be totally fine. The sewers are more annoying than difficult.
>>344646509
Charisma can only get you so far, especially if you want to really fuck someone over.
Also
>implying anyone here is even remotely charismatic
>>344644986
That's a good approach, buthonestly I can only think of one clan I prefer the male PC, and even then it's not one of my favourite clans (Toreador)
>>344645187
I know what you mean, I didn't /really/ like her at first but over time I really warmed up to her.just like she's doing to you, anon
I actually think she looks better with her glasses on, though. Pantsless casual clothes + glasses a best.
>>344646635
Sure, there are limits, but it just doesn't seem very exciting to force people to do shit, since they're still regulated to what humans can do. And you can't use it without pissing people off, since nobody likes being taken advantage of.
>>344646527
You don't need to kill everything in the sewers, you can just run past if you're a little bitch.
>>344645579
Yours, as in the player's.
>>344646527
Just buy colt anaconda and a hundred of ammo.
>>344646743
I suppose I just question the need for a social discipline when most people here aren't interested in being social in the first place.
>>344646872
That doesn't work for an in-character explanation though.
>>344646171Thaumaturgy :^)
>>344645508
I imagine Nines got lucky and managed to get the werewolf to swallow the grenade or something because there's no way he could've the damn thing otherwise.
>>344646949
>when most people here aren't interested in being social in the first place
Exactly. Dominate lets you get whatever you want from people without properly socializing.
>>344646171
Is Bloodbuff cheating? If so I would probably use Trance. Sounds fun and convenient to just get rid of a person temporarily.
>>344645784
I love you damn sail
>>344646509
>that's not impossible for a person to do already, you just need to practice your charisma
>mind control is the same as charisma
>>344647250
Yeah, but what do you want from people then? What's the point? The reason I avoid people is because I don't like them and they don't have anything I'm interested in. How would Dominate help me? I suppose I could tell a rich person to give me lots of money, but that's about it and will come back to bite me in the ass later.
![hollowman%2B1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nqhkE7p.jpg "hollowman%2B1[1].jpg")
>>344646171
Obfuscate
what are essentially shit to put on this game for a playthrough? talking graphics, patches, canon mods etc.
>>344647839
Nothing except the unofficial patch is essential.
RTFM before asking questions.
>>344647657
Keep in mind obfuscate doesn't work with technology, anon. It's mind fucking with everyone around you.
>>344647994
I'd use it to get naughty. Hence the pic.
>>344647973
>RTFM before asking questions.
I'm not gonna scroll through this spoilerific thread sempai
>>344647465
Not sure what you mean. Blood buffing is just jacking up physical stats, and isn't a discipline (it's just inherent to all vampires)
Trance = Entrancement? Maybe VTMB swapped the titles a bit. Entrancement (under Presence) in tabletop is basically making a person love you for a while. Meanwhile, Dominate (which I think "trance" is under in Bloodlines) is mind control, including telling them to "stay still and don't do anything for X hours".
>>344647527
My point is that the results are still constrained to what your victim is capable of doing.
>>344627367
>femtrue best girl
>>344641743
Therese is the base personality, Jeanette is her dead sister that she manifested as a secondary personality when she got Embraced. As a result, Jeanette has all of her living personality traits that Therese recalls. Dresses like a little girl, acts like a petulant child and is a fuck-everything slut.
where and when would you set a new vtm game
>>344648147
Best girl is obvious GanGirl
>>344639262
You actually only need an inspection feat of 3. I usually do it if I'm planning to raise perception later anyway. I like seeing the look on Tung's face.
>>344645091
High Humanity score can make you look more human than human. Just like a low Humanity score makes the Sabbat NPCs obviously inhuman.
>>344648368
L O N D O N
Seriously though, excellent setting for VtM. Lots of history, a bit different from the US-centric approach of Bloodlines and opens the door for higher powerlevels in terms of generations, etc. (That, and wacky british accents.)
Preferably it would start out in the dark ages, like that Redemption game, and then progress at some point to modern nights. Personally I think dark ages is a more fun setting for vampire since you don't don't have to care as much about the masquerade and sects. The historical aspect is fun too.
>>344648367
Therese is clearly best girl.
>>344648147
>>344648453
>not 'femgrel'
Anyway, sorry, but you're bothright, because they're all a bestExcept Toreador
>>344646171
What discipline level? This is important. Some discipline are a lot more attractive than others at higher level, like Temporis and Vicissitude
>>344646171
Obtenebration
>>344648721
I'm down for anything historical which isn't high fantasy faggotry or ebin steampunks xd
I want to be a vampire chav m8
>>344648728
Brujah is top tier as well, I agree. For me, it's basically between Gangrel, Brujah and Tremere.Honorable mentions to Nosferatu.
Wish you could be a Tzimisce, she would obviously be hottest.
>>344648060
It doesn't work that way though. You're not literally invisible, you just make it to where people pointedly don't look in your direction. There will be no inviso-rapes Hollow Man style.
Although Obfuscate 3 makes you look like some random other person, so you can slip them a frame-bang.
>>344648721
Ancient Rome
>>344641743
Therese is a Ventrue and Jeanette a Toreador, in their head-canon.
>>344648368
Rio de Janeiro. Preferrably with the plot involving Gratiano in some way.
>>344648904
Lets' go with 5 to keep it even, elder level powers are pretty much cheating anyway.
Also, no fucking blood magic.
>HURR I CAN DO ANYTHING xDDD
>>344648943
Enjoy your botches.It killed a player in my game recently. He shouldn't have attempted all these stupid abyss rituals. They were bound to backfire someday.
>>344648721
>>344649079
Both Victorian London and Ancient Rome exist as settings for Vampire, though. I'd much rather have Wild West Werewolf, which also exists.
>>344648721
Dark Ages games always fall apart in TT though. There's always some psuedo-history buff that goes full autistic.
>ackshully, prague didn't have a formal sewer system introduced until the 1700's
>oh, and don't even get me started on that doublet you're wearing. hello mister time traveler from the future *snort-laugh*
Compounded only further by the obnoxiousness of that one guy who thinks they spoke Shakespearen.
>bring me the head of that cursed Ventrue dog!
>>verily milord, thy foe shall rue the day he crossed thine esteemed house when mine blade cleaves-
>just get it done, Bratovich
>>344649185
>Lets' go with 5
Temporis it is then
>>344649285
>nWoD/CofD
Come on now.
>>344649302
It's all down to the ST m8. If he's running a tight ship, there's no issue.Our group's been running DA for several years now, with a few small time skips, but we're still nowhere close to skipping to modern times yet. Fun things are fun.
>>344639051
The plus patch adds bugs instead of removing them. Play with the basic patch.
>>344643794
Jeanette was a split personality to deal with the stress and being molested and shit. Going malk just made the split stronger.
>>344649374
>Dio-mode activated
It's a bit weird though. The discipline spread sort of works (Potence and Presence both fit) but the average True Brujah couldn't be more different from Dio.
>>344639760
They're working on their Grand Strategy WoD game.
>>344649532
Dark Ages games by necessity employ timeskips simply because shit takes longer to get done compared to today. You could roleplay months of filler as you wait for something or simply fast forward through it. I don't know how WoD deals with downtime, though. Not like you decide to craft a new sword or something when fire freaks you out, for example.
Girls:
Malk = Femtrue >>> Brujah > Tremere > Toreador > Gangrel >>> Nosferatu
Boys:
Tremere > Ventrue > Malkpimp >>> Toreador > Gangrel > Brujah > Nosferatu
>>344639760
>so what the fuck is paradox doing?
Nothing, apparently.
> A friend of mine is a game designer who attended a White Nights conference in St Petersburg. There was a certain polish Paradox representative named Andreea (you can get her full name on the conference site, I don't want it to be googlable in this context). My friend is a big VTMB fan, so they talked and she told him that Paradox has already been approached by 3 different companies with a prototype for a World of Darkness game and they were all shit. And that Paradox is trying to come up with a concept of a game that would include everything World of Darkness has to offer, not just vampires, and so far they can't do it.
>>344649736
Doesn't work that way. You acquire a new Derangement on being Embraced. Jeanette being a split personality had to have occurred at her Embrace.
>>344649971
>all settings in 1
What a shitty idea. They don't mix. At all.
>>344649906
I prefer DA simply because Baali have more of a presence and there's no clear Camarilla vs Sabbat division.
Just for fun, who should play the Bloodlines characters in a live TV/cinema adaptation?
Lacroix: Leo DiCaprio
VV: Alex Daddario
Male Malk: Ryan Reynolds
Jack: Someone from Sons of Anarchy. Maybe Kim Coates.
>>344650002
I think it was implied that Therese was in the loony bin for a while and that Jeanette was suppressed until the time of the embrace.
You also have to account for the fact that Troika made a couple of decisions that didn't 100% jive with the tabletop explanation of things.
>>344649971
>a game that would include everything World of Darkness has to offer, not just vampires
Yeah no shit they can't do it.
Make separate games you twats.
>>344646171
Dominate, so i could be a NEET forever by dominating reach guys into sending me checks and dominate hot staceys to suck my dick. Or Presence, so i could finally fulfill my dream ofbeing loved and respected instead of ignored and bullied ;(
>>344650306
>implied that Therese was in the loony bin for a while
I don't remember that implication. What was the dialogue that implied it?
>>344647637
>Yeah, but what do you want from people then? What's the point?
Money? Sex? Items? Influence? Job opportunities? Entertainment? the only limit is your imagination really.
>>344645432
Yeah, like he'd waste blood doing that every hour or so just to look like a normie kine.
>>344648571
It's this. With humanity 7 or above you look human, and judging by Nine's sort of "good guy" persona, this is probably the case.
But I really doubt Troika thought about that at all. Most of the vampires in the game look relatively human.
>>344648974
>Brujah is top tier as well, I agree. For me, it's basically between Gangrel, Brujah and Tremere.
>(spoiler)
Good taste, personally my favourites are Brujah, Gangrel and Ventrue and Nosferatu, Tremere is a qt but I don't like the fancier outfits.What, no mention of Malk?
>Wish you could be a Tzimisce, she would obviously be hottest.
Fucking exquisite taste, Kindred.
>>344649185
But how would you even go at doing a vampire game where all combat is skippable? Even in the canon lore lots of Ventrue and Toreador that discard combat end up dying like flies, since the Jyhad is always on.
>>344648721
>Vampire setting in London
They could use the Blood Farm, which is an actual place in WoD London. Basically a gigantic complex filled with Humans being harvested endlessly for their blood, taken from prisons, insane asylums, criminals and the homeless from the streets, and so forth, which distributes blood to Vampires throughout the UK and over seas. Would have lots of potential for moral and political decision making on weather or not to keep or destroy the Blood Farm.
>>344649532
>nWoD/CofD
>Come on now.
Stop that. NWoD/CofD has more content to work with. Personally I think they should use VtM as the base and build around it with VtR stuff.
Anyway, since Grout's Mansion was one of my favorite parts of Bloodlines, I would hope a new game involves something similar, possibly an actual Mental Institute or Asylum.
>>344650998
>>344649185
The game actually tells you to learn how to fight. I don't think there is an excuse for getting mad that you can't fight effectively after not building combat skills.
>>344649971
>Paradox is trying to come up with a concept of a game that would include everything World of Darkness has to offer, not just vampires
Very, very bad idea.
>>344650249
Ron Perlman as the Sheriff
>>344650249
>Alex Daddario
She wouldn't even have to wear lenses to play a vampire. She's got perfect crazy demonic eyes already.
>>344649010
>slip them a frame-bang
Ventrue can do that too
>>344651485
I don't agree. It's doable, though it needs to be done very carefully. Personally I think they should start with a General WoD game focusing on Hunters, which would be a good way to incorporate the entire setting into one and would be a great way for gamers not familiar with WoD to be introduced to it's varied elements. They can use this as a framework to make a Vampire game from afterwards.
>>344633737
I role played as a vampire with a conscience who only drinks packaged blood and rats. I also put a lot of points into intimidate even though it is shit just
so I could play the big man
I was essentially fucking angel from buffy, I even had the paranormal investigator background
I feel like playing this again. am I going to get cucked by windows 10?
also remind me how much of a pain in the ass it is to fix the resolution and fov
>>344651805
May be doable if you're marketing to tabletop veterans. People that have read hundreds, if not thousands of page on the background beforehand.
A game that tries to tackle everything the WoD has to offer at once would have to be humongous in scope while being built in such a way that it would allow gradual learning for all factions involved.
It's not so much it's impossible as much as its too big and too dangerous a bet all at once.
>>344651113
>Stop that. NWoD/CofD has more content to work with
Which is why it buried WW, right? nWoD was a mistake. It should've clued you in when they desperately threw it away and tried reprinting oWoD stuff as "cWoD," but by then the damage was done.
>>344652183
Is there anything to do at the Pier? Aside from talking to the best girl and the thinblood nerds.
Always found that spot a little too empty.
>>344652461
Mercutio sells stuff there later. Also, there's a stake floating around under the pier you can get early.
>>344651113
>NWoD/CofD has more content to work with
Except it's nothing akin to Bloodlines, which is why I think it's hilarious that some of you guys insist on pushing it in these threads. Go to the general on /tg/ if you wanna wank over how great nWoD is.
>mfw Paradox admitted that nWoD-based video games would flop hard
>>344633737
I roleplayed a Ventrue with zero persuasion once. I figured my character was a typical santa monica twentysomething. Getting embraced didn't magically make him a king swaggercock executive. At the same time though, something about him had to appeal to a Ventrue sire.
So I roleplayed that in life he started out as a small-time thug, but quickly started making money hand over fist as a fence. Decent firearms, inspection, lockpicking and intimidation feats. Very high haggle.
After the embrace, he was pretty hyped about this Dominate shit. Pumped it early and relied on it for most dialogue-based solutions. Most Ventrue would probably look down on him for this, but shit, he was nearly Caitiff and he's got nobody to teach him a more subtle way.
>>344652461
Isn't it the point though? It's the only place safe enough for thin bloods because they're literally as much as figuratively marginals.
No one there but them.
Does anyone else always skip the warrens by no clipping through the secret exit door in the graveyard? Saves up to 2 hours on which you get nothing for but shat on, you really miss absolutely nothing doing this
>>344650902
Malk is great, just not as tasteful as the other choices IMO.
>>344651113
I was mostly thinking of cWoD with Mithras, etc.
>>344651805
Crossovers tend to be garbage. All the different game lines have widely different focus, and while it's fine to have another splat show up every once in a while, it seldom works well to have multiple splats in the same player group. (Also, the power disparity is laughable. Why would anyone want to be a vampire when you can be a mage and just roll over everyone else? Not even mentioning how hard it would be to do Mage justice in the first place.)
>>344652253
You assume the only people who appreciate Bloodlines are people who played the Pen and Paper RPG.
It's smart in that it is a way to introduce new blood to the setting and also to give veterans a lot to look out for, recognize and appreciate from a fandom perspective. But your caution and concern about betting on something new is completely understandable.
What I mean is, though, for example, have a Fey or two appear somewhere, and give some general background information learned from them, from in-game books or from a few lore master characters. What I do not mean is to include many Fey and all the background information on The Hedge, every House, and so forth. Just a side mission or two and some background info which is optional.
Or say, if we're including NWoD/CofD, a Promethean NPC and/or enemy in the sewers as part of a side mission.
Just enough to show that they exist in the setting and enough information to give you the gist of what they are.
If we do go the Hunter route, the organization to which the character belongs ought to have a few NPC's and some archives of some sort which could provide lots of background information.
>>344652801
No, I tend to play the game.
>>344652608
>Mercurio
Yeah, he just shows up once, to tell you to stop by his apartment.
>stake
Welp, yet another thing I've missed in playthroughs.
>>344652708Truly, the deepest lore.
>>344652925
I'd say its just the nature of those social structures at play.
Not that many possibilities.
>>344651861
>I role played as a vampire with a conscience who only drinks packaged blood and rats.
>He didn't take care of his wonderful pet and drink her pure blood to make her happy
>He didn't drain the takeaway his pet brings home, not because he wanted to but because he didn't want to make her sad
Come on, neon8
>>344652821
>Why would anyone want to be a vampire when you can be a mage and just roll over everyone else?
Mages are not that simple. Some Bruja could potentially kill one in a drive-by if they chose the right moment to strike. Despite their power, they are still otherwise regular mortals.
>>344652348
>>344652610
You do WoD and White Wolf a disservice with this brand warfare mindset.
They could have removed all mention of Cain, the Antediluvians, and called the Camarilla and Anarchs anything else, and it would not detract from the excellent dialogue, voice acting and great RPG mechanics. Your complaints are superficial and have nothing to do with anything.
Old World of Darkness was riddles with plot holes and flip flopping of epic proportions, but I do not let that get in the way of my respect for it. I actually prefer to merge OWoD and NWoD in my P&P settings because I'm interested in a good story and setting, not being holier than thou.
Ya know, you post very similar to Old World of Darkness Guy, a tripfag who ruined WoD/Bloodlines threads by trying to pit fans of OWoD and NWoD against each other...
>The Camarilla just ain't necessary, man.
>The Masquerade is just common sense shit.
>By the way we've got a problem with the masquerade. Care to clean up our mess?
Anarchs pls
>>344653472
nWoD was a mistake. It was too bland and undefined. It was what 5th edition was to D&D, what New Coke was to Coca Cola. Did it have slightly more consistent mechanics than oWoD? Sure. But there wasn't anything there that an errata or a .5 sourcebook couldn't have solved.
White Wolf got greedy and spammed out what turned out to be an inferior knockoff, ending oWoD in the hopes everyone would buy the 50 new sourcebooks for nWoD. Most didn't. The few that did like yourself defend the decision till your dying breath, while ignoring the fact that White Wolf lost tons of money, dropped nWoD and tried re-printing oWoD to win its fans back before finally dying and selling off their IPs.
>>344653587
>The Sabbat exist.
>Hunters exist.
The Anarchs deal in ideals while the Camarilla deals in reality.
>>344650249
>Tourette: Evan Rachel Wood.
>>344653832
I love me some LaCroix. I always have my Ventrue side with him, even knowing what's in the Sarcophagus.
>>344646171
Vicissitude.
>>344653991
>even knowing what's in the Sarcophagus
Knowing you'll be sharing the power of an antediluvian isn't exactly a reason not do it.
Although I guess it's better to take it all for yourself.
>>344650249
Another Malkavian would be Rhys Wakefield.
>>344654193
>shared diablerie
wat
>>344653832
>>344653991
>LaCroixfags exist
Unlife truly is suffering.
for a muh misunderstood leader LaCroix is surprisingly hasty to blame you for everything and doesn't give a shit about reason at all
thankfully the tremere wizard exists
>>344654287
Who do you side with in your Ventrue playthroughs?
>>344654378
after fucking up California my Ventrue moves to Seattle to set up his own domain
>>344645449
Is there a mod that lets me diablerize this fucker after dowsing his faggoty ass kid in gasoline and setting him on fire right in front of his eyes?
no?
not replaying then.
Tremere F > Gangrel M > Malkavian F > Brujah F > Malkavian M > the rest
>>344654359
>Tremere always trying to undermine and usurp Camarilla control from Ventrue
>harsh but fair LaCroix leader
>understanding and kind Tremere Primogen who pits you against that evil ol' LaCroix
>you think he's your friend
You just got played.
>>344653472
>you post very similar to Old World of Darkness Guy
Oh lord, I think I remember being accused of this exact thing once like 6 months ago in one of these threads. Sorry to disappoint you, but there are more than one person who thinks nWoD sucks balls.
>Old World of Darkness was riddles with plot holes and flip flopping of epic proportions
Yes, and I enjoyed that. If you prefer nWoD, good for you, but it has very little bearing on Bloodlines and its theoretical sequel, as they're firmly established as cWoD.
>Your complaints are superficial and have nothing to do with anything.
What complaints? I haven't said even why I think nWoD is bad yet. I think you're projecting your idea of this mysterious "Old World of Darkness Guy" persona onto people who just plain don't like the same stuff you do.
>They could have removed all mention of Cain, the Antediluvians, and called the Camarilla and Anarchs anything else
I disagree, I think the strong background fluff is part of the reason VtM is a compelling universe.
>>344654272
Well you're partners. So when LaCroix takes the power I'd like to consider it mutually beneficial.
>>344652108
>windows 10
You're already cucked.
>>344653802
>nWoD was a mistake. It was too bland and undefined. It was what 5th edition was to D&D.
At the same time, oWoD was becoming too bloated, no air to breathe for personal campaigns anymore, especially with the players that took everything printed as verbatim truth (I was graced with never having those, but the horror stories I've heard along the years...).
It also tried to address many smaller issues (like separating sect and clan along more numerous and definitive lines... which had the weakness of making things a bit too conveniently gamey I find) or removing generation from background (because as much as you want to claim that 3rd generation and Cain might just be legends, when you have a system in place that is buit upon the truth of it, there an issue).
All in all I think both did well. We play what we call "WoD 1.5" games here, taling from both lines.
>>344653802
Not really, nWoD was fine. Problem was REQUIEM started off really weak because it was the first new game line for the setting. Only other game in nWoD that's really disputed is Mage and that's because people don't like the whole Atlantis backstory. Changeling, Hunger, Promethean and others are great, equal or better than their oWoD counterparts.
>>344654551
>LaCrook
>sharing
greatly depressing, newbie
>>344654359
>thankfully the tremere wizard exists
>Getting suckered by the literal slavedriver
Worst ending that isn't an ayylmao ending
>>344654378
The path of the true hero, who walks alone.Or Anarch, because Damsel is Best Girl
>>344653802
Before I reply, I'm going to say that I do not dislike OWoD, like I all ready said I do like it, and respect it, and I actually prefer to merge the Old and the New.
Anyway...
One of OWoD' main problems that it was a setting with an ever-present Doomsday Clock. It told you everything was ending, and soon, and it was almost constantly mentioned and integrated into the story. There was little, if any mystery, as the entire history of Vampires, Werewolves, or whatever else, was explained to you in depth, and so there wasn't much to explore, which only got worse as time went on.
Such figures as Cain and the Antediluvians and an in-depth history of them really wasn't necessary. The very nature of Vampires in Masquerade meant they would eventually die out naturally, which is why Thin Bloods were a thing. Again, the setting is declaring it's finite nature.
As for NWoD killing White Wolf, the decline began during OWoD, and in the later years of OWoD's run it essentially took on the modular style of NWoD. The recent resurgence of interest in the setting has nothing to do with reprinting the old material, and the re-printing began BECAUSE of a resurgence of interest, not as the catalyst of it. The old material was being largely re-written and borrowing from NWoD books anyway. New World of Darkness is still getting new books alongside the OWoD re-prints.
Several of the NWoD settings are generally regarded as superior to OWoD versions, such as Hunter and Changeling. I consider Mage the Awakening better than Ascension, though I think the Technocracy should get their own setting, since they don't suit a Mage setting, which is a setting I'd love to
As someone who frequents World of Darkness and White Wolf/Onyx Path on-line communities, I don't see any of the hatred for NWoD that you imply exists.
>>344654378
New Camarilla with Strauss.
>>344653587
>relying on your average person to have common sense
shit, even sabbat has their own own "handle the fuckups" team for what they can't simply force on camarilla to clean up
>>344654287
I'm not a LeCroix sympathizer, I turned him in to the Camarilla for execution, for he transgressed the law and risked the destruction of all Vampire society. I support the Camarilla completely.
>>344654601
>no air to breathe for personal campaigns anymore
I don't really understand this issue. Just ignore the stuff you don't like? There's nothing forcing you to adopt everything WW deemed "canon".
>>344654837
>As someone who frequents World of Darkness and White Wolf/Onyx Path on-line communities, I don't see any of the hatred for NWoD that you imply exists.
That's funny, because as someone that frequents those same communites, I see it constantly. There's a major rift between the playerbases, except in those communities that forcibly require you to cater to both. I assume those are the only ones you hang out in?
Speaking of, maybe we even know one another. You're part of the Wanton Wicked crowd? Maybe New Bremen?
>>344655041
>>344654837
>As someone who frequents World of Darkness and White Wolf/Onyx Path on-line communities, I don't see any of the hatred for NWoD that you imply exists.
Another anon here.
Mostly I would wager, you don't see those people because the abandoned White Wolf in disgust. I know my fair share of grognards who never forgave the company for "murdering Masquerade to make room for Requiem", for one. After all these years, they're still salty about it.
I don't know that I blame them, they were huge support to the company, buying everything, and felt genuinely betrayed.
>>344627367
> Never finished this game
Is it worth it
>>344654676
>Problem was REQUIEM started off really weak
this is true and it turned off a lot of people to nwod. also, it was a classic case of coming from a game that had two decades of books to a new game that had barely a fraction of said content. some people just wanted more of the same.
>>344655170
I get the feeling most of this hate is aimed at Requiem in particular, rather than NWoD in general. Is that the case?
>>344655089
>I don't really understand this issue. Just ignore the stuff you don't like? There's nothing forcing you to adopt everything WW deemed "canon".
Reading the rest of the post you're quoting might have help you understand? Not like I care myself, by the time Requiem was released we had been playing for long enough that we had our own version of the world and rules (no ghouls for one). But some people do treat printed material as the last arbiter. Also hard to welcome new player when they're coming expecting said printed material - that's one of the reasons they want in, and you're telling them you don't use it.
>>344655041
See, I had my Ventrue side with him because of LaCroix's choices.
As a Ventrue without a sire (specifically one who was executed for a Third Tradition violation), you're pretty much fucked. You're going nowhere in the clan, and you're never going to rise particularly far in the Camarilla.
But cozy up to LaCroix, who's already at that Ancillae-Elder ranking, and help him with his Antedeluvian gambit and it's not inconceivable that he name you his Childer. And once he's dominated Los Angeles and other Camarilla come mulling in, guess who's suddenly the Primogen?
>>344655041
>I support the Camarilla completely.
>>344655370
Different anon, but I felt it pretty acutely for most of nWoD. I loved all the old settings.
>>344655370
My feeling is that for the bigger past it's true, yeah, but you'll find some of those people for all game lines.
I know people that love nWoD Changeling and yet are still salty about the disappearance of the oWoD version.
>>344655206
Same, made it to downtown (I think, second area) and dropped it.
The dialogue was engaging, but the rest of the game didn't hold me in. What do
>>344655170
It's the same as with Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar right now. Most old fans are abandoning ship, leaving the few remaining to circlejerk freely, giving the impression that "everyone loves the new changes"
>you'll never have some brutal, bone-breaking punk sex with Damsel
why live brehs
>>344655564
>you want a cozy and protected life with rules that kept your kind safe for ages
>DIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
anarchs
>>344655089
>There's nothing forcing you to adopt everything WW deemed "canon".
Sure, but it's canonical material. Would you cut a class out of the game because you don't like it? You can, but it's official part of the game.
>>344655764
>you'll never have Therese as your sexcretary
Why even unlive?
