How is this game fair? The monster just completely annihilates the hunters so fast.
>>344610350
sounds like a simulation, nay gun nut titillation
git gud
That's why it's free
get a good team
>>344610350
>monster annihilates the hunters
no
>>344610350
>How is this game fair?
It's shit, but it's free
sounds fair anough
>Play Abe all the time
>Spam tracking dart and stasis granade
>Barely shoot anymore
Am I the cancer?
Also, how can I get Griffit to work? Fucking hook gets done so fast
>retards try to fight monster 1v1
>die
MONSTER OP
>retard tries to fight hunters before evolving
HUNTERS OP
The game is complete shit. Glad I got a refund before this shit happened.
I wonder if that one shill killed himself.
>>344610928
thats what I like abes to do.
stasis is more useful than his cuckgun
>>344610712
Yes, it does. I've won every monster match I've ever played. Usually on the first fight.
Whenever I play hunter the coordination required is just not there, and we're always wiped out.
It's just so easy for retards (myself included) to play monster and win almost right away, the abilities regenerate so fast.
The game's actually pretty OK but the balance right now is skewed bad.
Goliath and Kraken actually seem pretty good. I think they have a slight advantage over the hunters (armor regens too fast) but otherwise they're fun to play as and against and I'm cool with them.
Gorgon isn't amazing, but he's just incredibly boring to hunt.
Wraith is completely OP and very frustrating to play against. As Wraith you can pretty much just have your way with the hunters. Saw a dude on a 20 game win streak playing wraith earlier.
>>344611382
then level up first. I won every monster match and lost most hunter matches when I was 1-7. then i got to 15+ and i can usually still win as monster but it takes more effort. I win more hunter matches then I lose.
Monster is easier to win as when everyones retarded, yes.
>>344611431
>Gorgon isn't amazing, but he's just incredibly boring to hunt.
I think the opposite, gorgon has to be the most fun shit to hunt since he can just crawl in a wall and see you go by, you gotta follow its acid trailscarefully too
>>344610350
>play the evolve beta
>monster is weak as shit until the last stage
>play evolve f2p
>monster camps the drop point and kills us in 2 hits each while we're 4 vs 1
>>344610350
Typically I find it's geared towards the hunters, myself. I come back from a long hiatus from playing the game once it's free to see what's up. The fuck is this "TRACKED BY GLOBAL PLANET SCANNER" shit? The hunters always know where I am every couple of minutes? Shit, I know the game used to have an issue where monsters were fucking impossible to find sometimes but that's a bit much. And everyone has a fucking dome now? I was surprised to kill a trapper and the dome didn't go down. Although maybe I needed to finish off Daisy too? Plus the hunter respawn times have been shortened a lot, I swear. By the time you've killed 3/4 of the team, they've all respawned.
>>344610350
I've learned that if you dont have a good tracker who cant lead you to the monster and get its health to ATLEAST 75% in stage 1, you're fucked
>>344611968
weird, i've never seen that happen.
I really don't like planet scanner and I really don't like everyone being able to pop dome.
The planet scanner just eliminates the team having to actually hunt and just follows the compass
It's fun as Goliath, I've had some great back and forth with good teams but sometimes I feel bad because I'll go bananas at stage 1 when they dome me and completely destroy them.
>>344610350
you know you can dodge pretty much everything the monster throws at you, and if you coordinate your shit, you can kill it easily and track it as he tries to run away
its now more easy since everyone now can dome the monster
>>344612195
First game I ever played I started as monster and thought I was gonna get completely destroyed. Ended up wiping them out within 5 minutes without even knowing what I was doing.
>>344612195
you can use the jump attack ability with 3 leves at the start plus the charge
you can pretty much kill the hunters instantly if they don't try and evade your stuff
When will this go f2p on PS4?
>>344612354
From what the general was saying they buffed stage 1 so it can't die so easily but I think it's just because a lot of groups are uncoordinated which makes it easy to pick off the support and medic then go from there.
Who gives a shit, the servers are practically dead at this point
>playing as Gorgon for the first time
>killing and feeding getting my armor
>accidentally startle some birds
>oh crap they're gonna be-
>wait I have traps.
>walk along and shoot a trap then websling away
>half a minute later a hunter gets taken by my spider
>a little after that "trapper down"
hahaha. that and webslinging up onto a ledge and watching the whole team just run under me was great. the jukes are real.
>>344611983
After they use their GPS and it finishes try changing your direction, backtrack or some shit.
The new dome starts with a 5 minute timer and loses some time (60s iirc) when the Monster takes 4% health damage at stage 1, 6.5% s2, and 8% s3. The timer also goes down by 3 minutes every time a Hunter gets downed.
The new spawn system starts at 0:00 and I think 30s is added every time a Hunter dies. Max time respawn time is 2 minutes though, to eliminate obsurdly long respawns.
>>344612761
next level juking is when you know they're close break their Los and use mimic and continue running in that direction until you break their los again.
They'll keep going the direction the mimic was.
>>344612882
I kind of like the changes to the dome mechanic, but I feel like it was done because people complained about not wanting to travel with their trapper or something.
I missed it being a sign of a good trapper to get a good arena with your dome.
If you guys want to kill every team at the drop point take Meteor Goliath and spend your currency on anything that increases your combat capabilities and max those. That's how people are on 7+ win streaks, they have the damage reduction and damage of a stage 2 at stage 1 the only thing they lack is the armor and hp.
>>344612070
Be glad you didn't have that happen to you, it's fucking dumb.
>>344612563
wut
>people are still paying for this game on consoles
that just can't be true
Is it me or they made all maps brighter?
>>344613321
>we trap a meteor goliath real fast
>pull out my damage amp for our hyde to go ham
>nope
>goliath just tears him apart and then looks at me
It was at this point I knew that I had fucked up.
>>344611968
>>344613321
>>344613337
They did make all the maps brighter.
>>344613321
Korean hypnotizes me every time.
>>344613326
Yeah it's on PSN but cost shekels.
>>344613528
>start game up
>get greeted with this screen
>mentions GameWorks
>doesn't appear to use any of it
Was the removal of GameWorks part of the 'downgrade' when it went F2P?
>>344614610
TXAA is a gameworks thing isn't it?
>>344614896
That's it? Just TXAA? Not even smoke or hairworks or whatever else they use?
>>344613041
The shared dome was done primarily to lessen the reliance on a single player in this F2P pub game. Newer players were really, really turned off by the fact that if your Trapper sucked, you would never be able to fight the monster. Either they would never land a dome or the monster would always just kill them and leave because they were bad.
I actually like the dome mechanics now except for being unable to throw it unless you establish LoS in the range. Really annoying to not be able to dome the monster if you know he's right there, but around a rock or something. I can't really think of a proper work around though.
>>344610350
Balance has never been a thing in Evolve. The game becoming free doesn't change that.
>>344611968
From reading the Steam reviews it seems like they dumbed the game down a lot before going FTP.
I want too eat eggs so bad right now but my farts already smell terrible.
>End up as medic
>go val
>Tranq the monster till he fucking quits because hes tired of being out ran.
>End up as support
>go cabot
>snipe that faggot monster through walls because lol railgun
>Just gives up because I keep breaking his armor
>End up as assault.
>Go black guy that sacs health for increased attack speed
>Monster can't decide who to focus and eventually dies.
>end up as trapper
>go griffin to keep the monster on a leash and away from my medic.
>End up as monster
>Go wraith
>kill people will 2>1 combo
>They are nerfing 3 and 4 on wraith
games fun. Glad they reduced the time to get into the game compared to fucking launch. waiting around for 3 mins because some asshole forgot to hit ready was dumb.
>>344615306
iktf had beans and sausages for dinner
>Play with pugs only
>Have nearly a 2 W/L with literally only 3 monster games played
>Everyone is always bitching about how OP the monster is
God forbid people actually play the game for any amount of time before deciding that they know everything about balance.
>>344613326
It's not free yet but don't be silly anon, no one's buying it
>Evolve is dead!
>game is still alive on consoles
>only on PC is it dead
>not only did they have to make it go F2P to give it a fraction of the console userbase
>they had to downgrade the graphics to accommodate all the lovely PC people with sub-Wii U specced computers
>who include, but are not limited to, hacking Russians, BRs from Runescape, TF2 kiddies, and Steam weebs
"PC is the future of gaming."
I feel sorry for anyone who bought it and had their progress wiped only to get comped 3k keys, I've earned 2.8k in an hour and a half of playing
>>344615789
same way with games like siege
>>344616221
Every single game ever made is simply more profitable on consoles. That's why broken ports happen. That's why delayed ports happen. That's why very few Japanese games come to PC. That's why "Ultra" on PC is literally just the console settings.
That's weird. The game seems really stacked against the monster to me.
I've only lost once as the hunter, and that was because we split up like idiots. Other than that, it's always been pretty damn easy to win as the hunters.
>>344615789
>tfw steam weeb
>Finally find the fucking monster
>We all disconnect
No fucking wonder it went free to play.
>>344610350
ITT: Noobs getting slaughtered by monster stage 1 ambush at drop
>>344617708
No shit, the game has been F2P for like 2 days.
>>344617768git gud
>>344617768
The game has been out for years now, shitstain.
>>344615789
quality shitpost
>>344618001
And how many people actually paid money for and kept playing this piece of steaming shit? The only traction this game is ever gonna get is from people who try it because it's free.
>be healer
>monster always attack you first
>>344611968
Have you tried gitting gud? The ultimate strategy for monster is pick up the damage upgrade, then chill at spawn and wreck their shit as soon as they touch the ground. Leveling up was pointless because you'd shit all over them anyways.
>>344618083
>big strong support keeps close to you and keeps you safe
>>344618073
I kept playing, but I had it gifted to me. Doesn't change the fact that they're giving meteor goliath stage 2 stats right out of the box.
>>344618194
I'm sure there are dozens of you
>>344618083
>be healer
>monster perpetually focuses me
>he kills me through self heals and the support damage block
>qt starts healing me
>accidentally bump into her while retreating for cover
>tfw entire party rewards you for being a good healer
>>344618303
Maybe she likes you
>Oh you like fire, huh? I GOT A FUCKIN' LASER
I knew from the moment I saw Hank I'd like him. Reminds me of Dizzy Wallin from Gears
>mfw shitting on the healer or support first as Goliath and fucking up the idiots who try to get close for the revive
>always get at least 2 hunters down a dome each time
Being an extra-dimensional space gorilla is fucking rad and I love it.
>>344618083
Well yeah. Before the game when F2P I would either focus on the healer or the trapper, depending on whether I was trapped in the dome and wasn't ready for a full fight or not. With the new rules, there's no reason not to fight the healer. Healers are pretty dangerous, there's no point incapacitating anyone if the healer can get them back on their feet or draw or fights. Even worse if the healer is a Lazarus.
I suppose you should be happy you're so vital to the team?
>>344619579
>With the new rules, there's no reason not to fight the healer.
Hank and Bucket are high priority support targets.
>>344619697
Oh, true. Forgot about them. But even then, I usually use a CC thing to keep them away while I finish off the healer. All you need is to lose track of a hunter for a few seconds before they get healed again after all.
Generally my kill order is healer, support, trapper, assault. Unless one of them is low HP or something and I can finish them off quickly.
Almost have enough funny money to buy a new character, who should I buy?
installed it earlier
instantly hated it the moment i began playing. Why do i want to be by myself against 4 people? Why do i want to be on a team of 4 against one person?
design is way too confusing to jump into and for most games this is a bad sign. something like l4d you can just pick up and play instantly. good design.
it failed because of all the missteps they took, but i really had no idea i'd just hate it this bad. I just absolutely despise it instantly, mostly because asymmetrical teams isn't even an interesting or good concept. i don't want any part of it.
half the time you play this game, you have nobody to talk to. what am i playing online multiplayer for?...
>>344620140
What class do you like the most? Go for someone in that class.
There used to be in-game videos that explained each character, their skills and basic tips on how to use them. I think they're gone now, it's a shame. I'd of thought it'd be useful for newer players, or when playing a new character.
>>344620150
oh, also, i tried playing a match as hunters, saw a character i wanted to play and greeted with a big "5000 keys" thing or whatever
look i'm 34. I'm just done with this. I quit the game and uninstalled there.
>>344620306
Hank is fun, I get to be helpful and shit damage all over with orbital missiles, who's like that?
>>344620150
>design is way too confusing to jump into
you sound like you have trouble drinking out of anything but a sippy cup
>>344620373
Tech Sergeant Hank
>>344620536
>>344620373
tech sgt is just a lil bit more damage hank but with way less shields but his shields don't deteriorate so you can charge people up while you're tracking the monster down
probably a good idea to pick him up if you like hank since tech sgt hank is only like 2750
>pay to win game
>doesn't pay
>expects to win
Are monsters shit or has everyone i've fought against been bad?
I've won every time as hunters and they can't even get a single person down.
Seems like the only way monsters will win is if they get to level 3 without any problems.
>>344620773
>game doesn't even have any microtransactions yet
>>344620773
How is it pay to win? All keys do is let you unlock characters or buy cosmetics. Honestly, I think I prefer the key system more. The original game had you grind out classes one at a time to get the next character. So if you liked playing medic and wanted Slim, you had to grind with every single other Medic since Slim was last on the list I think. Plus part of the grinding was completing certain challenges/missions and some could be really annoying depending on how well/poorly everyone else played. Using medic as an example again, if your team is good and the monster is bad, no one is going to take enough damage for you to complete your "Heal X damage" mission.
With keys it's just "I want this" and you get it. You don't need to grind with characters you don't like to unlock ones you do either.
>>344620945
Bit of A, bit of B. I've been playing a little after the game first came out and the differences really confused me. Monsters always had a big advantage so I imagine the game was rebalanced in favour of the hunters. Might take a while for older players to relearn the game and newer ones to figure out what to do.
>>344621139
any game that has things that you can pay to get, which allow you to handle situations differently than a brand new 0 minutes player, is soft p2w
this means even tf2 is soft p2w
>>344621417
So... let's say two people are playing a game that has no cash shop but you can get in game gold to buy equipment and stuff. Is that still pay to win?
>>344621563
ask a stupid question, get no answer. imagine that we're talking in real life and i'm looking at you like you are stupid.
>>344615082
oh shit man better slap in some hairworks on Gorgons butthole.
>>344621713
nah m8, hyde's beard would definitely benefit from hairworks
This is fucking nVidia we're talking about, there's no rhyme or reason to GameWorks usage other than "make people buy our newest GPUs".
>>344610350
The current game balance completely took away the "depth" the monster had in terms of run and hiding.
Everybody can throw a dome, trapper can global ping you anywhere in the map. It's not monster hide n seek anymore, it's monster tag.
And the monster can easily solo teams at level 2, since they made the hunters weaker to "compesate" these new advantages.
It's even more frustrating to play now than on release.
>>344621827
>This is fucking nVidia we're talking about, there's no rhyme or reason to GameWorks usage other than "make people buy our newest GPUs".
.....you are aware that the developers implement gameworks features into games right. not nvidia
>>344621563
>you can't pay
>is that pay to win?
>>344621864
yeah i got found in like 30 seconds my first game. i had no idea what to do, but why throw the player into that experience? why would i come back to it
i feel like the player numbers are gonna fall off a cliff, the game just isnt good
>Play as Hank
>Don't be a total fucking retard
>Carry a team to a convincing win
>>344621417
Your brain is soft.
![older-guy-looking-pointing-up-right-6811555[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o9OxlMQ.jpg "older-guy-looking-pointing-up-right-6811555[1].jpg")
>>344622000
STOP
RIGHT
THERE
oh SHIT
>>344622048
>see a monster corner someone and start fucking them up
>shield them
>he keeps trying to hit them
Is Hank good or are we still in the f2pleb flood stage
>>344621903
nVidia pays them to use them though, that's the main reason they're used.
>>344621864
Yeah, I noticed this. Monsters couldn't hide nearly as well but I did feel like hunters had less HP or something since they died more quickly. I thought I must of went on arena mode or something, I was surprised it was on hunt. That global scanning satellite thing really surprised me.
I'm not to worried about the whole "anyone can throw a dome" thing though. I can kill anyone and it comes down, right? So I can just kill the medic like I want, instead of having to focus on the trapper and having to outdo the medic's healing.
I kinda like the new system and I kinda don't. I think it makes gameplay faster though and I don't feel so bad if I play keep away for the entire match now. It's probably more fun in the end, just need to get used to it.
>>344618083
Just roach on cliffs, dummy
>>344622325
Both. Hank is really good and new Monsters usually don't understand how his Shield mechanic works.
>>344622326
no they don't haha
>>344622325
The monster can easily cut through the shield of hank and especially since it's depleteable. You're running out of shield charge, the monster isn't running out of anything. The monster basically wins that fight of attrition
>>344610350
>only 5 monsters
Wtf? Do they plan on adding more?
>>344622325
Flood stage, most likely. That being said, how hard is it to comprehend that when someone is shielded they don't take damage? Did they not do the tutorials?
I think they should of left the character overview videos in, would probably clear a lot of things up for newer players. They also need to explain what the differences are between variations of monsters/hunters.
>first game ever
>get monster
>welp
>pick some shit to level up as a fire dude
>PICK YOUR PERKS
>pick nothing because I guess I have nothing
>no fucking clue what I am doing but go in
>hunters not even remotely afraid of me just swarm me instantly
>jet packing all around can't even get them
>get people low but other teammates start jizzing green into them and they are fine
>die ten minutes later
Welp.
>>344622365
>I don't feel so bad if I play keep away for the entire match now. It's probably more fun in the end
how can running away from people ever be fun?
>Play Hyde with speed upgrades on 1 and 2, Rocketman on 3
>Keep up with monster constantly and able to dodge when necessary, constant flame damage and poison grenades
>Drop ambush has failed every single time.
Honestly. I feel the game is decently balanced although I have a question. How the fuck do you beat the Wraith? Relatively 50/50 even playing field and is very enjoyable of a game but I have never beaten a Wraith. Possibly fought against them with/ and without a team for about 15 matches. Any tips against Wraith besides git gud?
>>344622475
>You're running out of shield charge, the monster isn't running out of anything.
Except, you know, HP.
>>344622475
Still keeping that poor sap out of harm though. If he's focusing down someone with a shield, then the rest of my team is free to rain hell on him. I just like how well Hank's rotation works
>fire laser until recharge
>shield someone
>shield gets run out
>go back to laser
>laser runs out
>go back to shield
>>344622536
>Did they not do the tutorials?
who does tutorials before starting a game
the correct design was to do training matches with newschool more prompts on the screen.
this is the first game i've ever played where i can say there aren't enough prompts on the screen
>>344622631
You need Griffin, Lennox and Rogue Val. Without those three, you pretty much don't.
>>344622471
Are you telling me that developers spend the extra time and effort, for free? To incorporate performance crippling effects that especially hurt AMD owners, therefore reducing the PC's already negligible sales? It sounds like bait, but in the grand scheme of things, PC is as good as a non-market. PC is the lowest source of revenue, PC is the lowest source of sales, PC requires extra development time to ensure the game can work on more than just console hardware. As a publisher, there's next to no reason to make PC versions of games, let alone spending valuable time and manpower into programming performance crippling shit. It makes sense that nVidia pays for the PC ports solely so that they can become GameWorks showcases, nothing more, nothing less.
>>344622541
Did you do the tutorial?
In most cases, hunters don't run from monsters ever. Not unless the monster has killed 3/4 of the team and the last guy is escaping to avoid a team kill since that's a win condition for the monster.
Kill the medic first to stop healing. They usually have a blue outfit or a blue name, from memory. When someone is incapacitated, you can keep hitting them to kill them faster. Also stops anyone from getting too close to revive them, since you're rampaging directly over the body.
You should try to run away from hunters until you're fully shielded and stage 2, usually.
>>344622541
i got caught in 30 seconds and i just stood there and let everyone delete me. took a while.
they were like "thanks" and then i deleted the game
I have very strong opinions on game design that are the result of a really long time in gaming and i just think the basic design of this game is abysmal.
>>344622564
Hiding from people and surprising them is how most stealth games work and people find them fun. Besides, hunters used to be stronger then as well so you were more likely to be fucked. I'm sure shields regenerated slower too, even with feeding.
>>344622817
>To incorporate performance crippling effects that especially hurt AMD owners
stopped reading there. gameworks stuff just doesn't run on amd, i'm not sure how you think it cripples it. you seem to not actually know what gameworks is.
amd shit is crippled because it's fucking amd shit. it comes crippled out of the box.
>>344622365
It's "good" because makes the matches faster, but you sacrifice gameplay options for that.
No, it's not more fun, because this kind of balancing just makes so you have to use the same strategy every game to win every game.
Run around for 5 minutes, gobble up one monster, run your ass off, eat another, repeat until level 2 and then solo the hunters.
ALL MATCHES, JUST THAT. No hiding, no track tricks, no decoys. Only running and eating.
>>344622819
I didn't do the tutorial so I'm not bashing the game or saying monsters are UP or anything just saying my experience. Honestly didn't know there was multiple stages or that shields were something you wanted to let build up. So basically as the monster you should be running away for the first bit? Also what's the dome thing?
>>344622915
>Hiding from people and surprising them is how most stealth games work and people find them fun
there arent really stealth multiplayer games
hiding is my least fun thing to do in a video game. multiplayer hiding......wow. goes back to me saying that the basic game design of this game is trash.
>>344622949
>amd shit is crippled because it's fucking amd shit. it comes crippled out of the box.
Glad you agree, my man.
>>344623046
Is the game really trash because it wasn't designed to be something you like? I haven't even played this shit but did you read your post over before hitting post?
>>344623160
no, the game is trash because the game design is bad. I'm not sure if you know this, but it is among the worst failures of all time in video games.
making it f2p and getting a few thousand people (for how many days?) doesn't mean the game is good or even not awful.
the game didn't fail because of the price and shit, the game failed because it's fucking bad. people who bought it told their friends it was bad.
>>344622631
Wraith has low shields and low HP. She's the most fragile of them all. But she's got good escapes. Basically, don't dome her straight away. Only do it when she tries to run. She can't do long battles due to her low shield/HP pool. A good trapper that can keep the wraith under control is good too. Spread out so she can't hit too many of you at once. Assume the first wraith you see is a decoy, because it probably is.
Basically a wraith will probably try to hit and run or burst damage you all at once. If you can prevent/survive that and stop the wraith from escaping then you should be good.
Then again, all my experience is from the old system so it might not be exactly like I described it...
>>344622853
It's so easy to avoid getting caught if you know what you are doing. 99% of the time they will immediately pop the planet scanner to find you initially, all you have to do is walk in a direction for a few seconds until the indicator saying that it's active goes away and go in any other direction than the one you were going.
They almost always beeline straight to where the compass says you are, rarely will I run into someone trying to cut me off.
Noob here, should you keep shooting the monster with your pistol or return to the drop ship immediately?
>>344620773
>i didnt play evolve
>am autistic
>>344610350
>first 3 games are fine
>next game is freezing and framerate is constantly dropping
Holy shit did they even test this shit or what?
>>344623297
>It's so easy to avoid getting caught if you know what you are doing. 99% of the time they will immediately pop the planet scanner to find you initially, all you have to do is walk in a direction for a few seconds until the indicator saying that it's active goes away and go in any other direction than the one you were going.
then why do these mechanics exist in the game? if 99% of the time you can avoid them?
>>344611004
>implying turtlerock can afford shills
>>344623382
>durrh what does "beta" mean
who do you think tests games now?
>>344623034
The dome thing is a trap, to stop monsters from running away. But it also traps everything else inside the dome, including animals and the hunters themselves. Killing hunters will reduce the dome time significantly, so if you're trapped and can't get out your only option is to go for a fast kill.
Yes, you want to escape for the first stage. Generally, at the first stage hunters will usually have the advantage. At stage 2 it's 50/50 and stage 3 monsters have the advantage.
>>344623046
Multiplayer hiding works for some games like Dead By Daylight though.
>>344622853
>i got caught in 30 seconds
mad cuz bad
>>344623527
Can you eat the animals for health? I figure that's why they are there. Also thanks for answering these questions anon
>>344623353
Depends on how likely you think it is that someone will come save you. If the monster is wrecking shit, maybe just go back to ship.
>>344623416
Darwinism. Bad monsters that don't understand how to avoid getting tracked get caught and smashed on, while smarties get to eat and level up.
i was playing earlier and got this glitch.
stuck in 3rd person and the controls were backwards
>>344623416
Because people were shit players when the game was 60 bucks and would complain it took forever to track down the monster.
>>344623510
>Beta for a game that's been out for a year
>>344623803
its a beta for the redesigned version.
>>344623623
Eating monsters gives armor but there are some rare animals that you can eat for temporary buffs and one of the buffs is slight health regen
>>344623910
Oh I didn't know they made a completely new engine for the game, I thought the game still just used the old one and they just slapped the beta tag on it.
>>344623623
No problem. Genuinely liked this game when it first came out, glad it's got some new life.
Eating animals restores shields and raises your evolve gauge. When that's full, you can evolve.
You gain a small amount of HP when evolving to the next stage, but you should really think of HP as unrecoverable since it's not a lot.
Shields regenerate, HP doesn't. So unless you're going all in, you don't want to lose HP. Breaking off from a fight if your shields are getting low is a good idea.
>>344623416
It's all about player skill. The scanner is just a waypoint that shows your general direction, it's not that much different from a monster scaring birds in that regard. It helps hunters know the general location of where a monster is, and that can be pretty helpful.
It's also good if you have someone who can track monsters effectively. For example, a Bucket might be able to use his drone head to locate a monster while the global satellite is active.
It's all about player skill really. It's not that the mechanics are terrible, it's how you use them.
>>344623791
That seems like it would be more fun though. Having to actually think about it and be methodical.
>>344624015
You don't understand what a game engine is, do you? Fun fact, Evolve uses the same Game Engine as Crysis.
>>344624036
I'm sure it was since you could actually properly stealth as the monster and hide in foliage and shit like that but I never played it at the time so I only know from other anons in the general.
>>344624015
i wasnt even the original game but a beta doesn't only have to be for an engine change you retard. its a beta so they cant get the game to the standards of the playerbase because it was so customer unfriendly in its original sense.
i have zero freezing and framerate issues but its not the first game that has those issues that dont get solved. just look at xcom2
You can get bronze, silver and gold perks from leveling up so don't waste keys on them.
>>344624325
>original game
original guy*
>>344624354
Gold as well? Neat.
Now if only there was a chart showing which character gives which perks.
>>344624036
As someone who actually played trapper in the pre-f2p version, it was vastly more fun. But when I played something else and got a bad trapper it was fucking infuriating because it meant an unavoidable loss/stalemate (or a boring walkaround as monster until I hit stage 3 at which point trapping becomes somewhat irrelevant)
>>344624416
markov gives the gold movement speed perk
>>344611431
>>344611639
I disagree and think Gorogn is nearly as overpowered as Wraith is.
Gorgon covers INSANE amounts of distance with her traverse. Most gorgon players dictate the pace of the game and even a mildly intelligent gorgon will manage to avoid the hunters until she hits level 2, and it's not uncommon for her to hit level 3 before the first engagement.
She has two useless skills, but the other two are absurdly strong. ANY gorgon player will max out acid spit and web blast before even bothering to touch mimic and the spider minion thing. The web blast fucks your jetpack and then she acid spits you for an absolutely insane amount of near unavoidable damage.
I REALLY wish they would publish the win rates for individual monsters. I bet Gorgon would be in second place behind Wraith.
God damn I'm a f2p shitter myself but how fucking hard is it for these idiots to DO THE DAMN TUTORIAL BEFORE YOU PLAY
>>344624036
>>344624515
This was a significant issue. The entire team is reliant on one person being able to find the monster. If that one person can't do it, you will literally go the entire game without ever seeing the monster unless he goes stage 3 and attacks the power relay or brings the fight to you.
It actually got to the point where I would feel sorta bad for hunters and wouldn't play as well as I could. I'm not saying I'm crazy awesome at the game, just that there were times where the entire match was almost a waste of everyone's time.
>>344624614
gorgon is so annoying to play against
>run up with markov
>get trapped
>gorgon spidermans away
>>344624614
wouldn't say her other two skills are useless. Situational maybe, but not useless.
Spider traps are useful in a fight, fire it behind where the hunters are. Someone has to either stop what they're doing and deal with it or the spider will just kidnap someone and take them out of the fight. In both scenarios, you just momentarily stopped a hunter from doing their job.
Mimic explodes, so it's good for when hunters are clustered together and your other skills are on cool down. It's also good for initiations and just to fuck with hunters. Lead them down the wrong path or even stand back, send the mimic in and explode it before hiding.
Personally I like using traps and mimic to initiate. I like perks that increase my smell range, useful for knowing where hunters are. Place your spider trap in one area, stand next to it and use mimic. Have the mimic approach them in a straight line from the spider trap, they'll investigate where the mimic came from and walk into the trap. Now you've dealt some damage and taken out one of the hunters.
>>344624614
You sort of need to get spider minion level 1 because of the utility. It's not meant to simply throw it at the hunters, you know?
>>344624738
>tutorial literally tells you to kill all animals so they are not "left to the monster"
>>344624830
Gorgon and Wraith share a hit and run tactic. It really is recommended to either have a trapper disable them or use the dome to capture them. If you have someone that can place a tracker on monsters like Griffith, do that immediately and periodically too.
>>344624558
bucket gives gold damage.
>>344625296
How dead do you have to kill animals before the monster can't get them. I saw an albino inside the cage and killed it, like the tutorial wanted, but while I was busy throwing stasis grenades he just hopped down there and got the armor regen bonus like no big deal.
>>344625459
Because you are not supposed to kill the animals, the monster can feed off corpses. The tutorial is retarded
Who 7+ winstreak here?
>>344623681
Shit happened to me three games in a row, haven't started up the game since.
What the hell is that
>>344625459
Dead animals will rot over time, giving less shields/evolve charge to monsters. Eventually, it'll dwindle to near nothing. Plus, dead animals also attract carrion birds which can be scared by monsters like regular birds.
For albinos, it's recommended you grab the buff immediately before the monster does.
Killing animals is all about the long game. The monster needs a steady diet to maintain strength and evolve, so you can end up potentially crippling a monster over time. They simply can't get the resources they need.
>>344620367
Welcome to F2P games, you either grind or pay, that's how everyone who isn't valve has to do business or they won't make money
I'm actually surprised there's no cash shop yet, I guess they're still working on that
>>344625459
No don't do this >>344625693
The game was altered to end very early, the monster will just feed off the corpses
>>344625646
it fixed for me when i let a man eating plant down me then get revived by my team
>>344625727
To be fair, it was grind or pay before it went F2P anyway. Personally I think it's LESS grindy now actually, as I outlined here.
>>344621139
>>344623681
>>344625646
If you meet any bugs like that please press ESC and choose "take a break" so you are not a handicap
hh
>>344625861
I mean, that kind of sounds like a cool idea but even with the Goliath it's hard enough to keep pace with a monster knowing exactly where it is, forget faffing about killing wildlife.
Or was it too strong and they had to change it because people were just splitting up to exterminate all the wildlife and only trapper could even do anything to stop the monster if anyone found it? I guess it would be kind of neat for the monster to ever find one guy out on his own.
>>344626123
God damn it. Typing on phone and accidentally clicked shit while I was wiping the surface.
>>344625861
I did feel like games end faster, but I wasn't sure if that was just because I was hitting stage 3 and the game decided to reduce the timer or something. But if games really do go faster than the old system, then killing animals probably won't work unless the rotting speed is increased too. It really does only work for for the long game, after all.
>>344621864
Because the alternative was really bad even though it was more skill based
>leave false tracks
>go to the other side of the map while the hunters play walking simulator
>if you don't fuck up they will never find you until stage 3
>10 minutes of walking boils down to a single fight which usually ends in a blow out and if it doesn't end there the monster just fucks off for another 5 minutes
>if your trapper sucked you will literally never ever catch the monster
The hide and seek think sounds fun on paper but when you literally spend the entire game just pressing W and spacebar praying that your trapper isn't a retard you start to realize how flawed the game is. This is why the game died, being a hunter just wasn't exciting so they've dumbed it down in hopes of making the game more action packed and less drawn out and boring.
>dust tagging a wraith that's about to die just when the dome goes down
>>344626309
Don't forget that wraiths used to be able to "fly" by teleporting diagonally upwards. They could fly higher than krakens and were way faster than anyone could ever hope to keep up with. From a hunter's point of view, all you see is a streak of purple land 3/4 on the other side of the map into a bush and you will never see them again.
the game is frustrating as hell. Maybe its unbalanced, I don't know, but it is definitely MUCH easier for a monster to win vs. a team of hunters to win. It requires a shit ton more effort and concentration as a hunter to survive, and if you don't have that level of coordination in your team, then it's just automatically over. The monster will win every time unless he's completely retarded.
Just played a monster for the first time, had a fun time shitting all over the medic until it started raining stasis grenades. Right now is there any reason to pick Goliath over blue goliath?
God damn I hate stasis grenades
>>344626963
All they need to do is
>remove global scan so the monster can actually outsmart hunters
>decrease monster health and armor at stage 1 and 2
>remove armor regen
>boost monster at stage 3
>>344627039
Goliath does more raw damage with his abilities while the M. Goliath has all his abilities apply DoTs in exchange for raw damage. It just depends on your play-style I suppose.
>play a round as hunter
>the robot guy specifically
>keep dropping sentries and throwing missiles at him, as well as hitting 3 whenever I can to recharge whoever has cooldown
>monster knocks me down
>I finish him off with the pistol
>play a round as monster
>the meteor goliath guy
>I was at stage 1, and they had me in a bad spot
>I managed to KO three of the players with a single stomp, and then killed the other guy off later on
The people I was fighting against probably sucked, but man did it feel good to win like that.
>>344627039
Blue Goliath does less damage initially, but his attacks do DoT so eventually it will end up doing more damage than a normal Goliath. Plus, blue goliath has much longer cool downs on skills.
This usually means that blue goliaths are all about spreading the damage. Burn as many people as you can, there's no way support and medic can cover the entire team when they're all on fire. You'll eventually wear them down, it's basically a battle of attrition. Normal Goliath on the other hand is better at picking off hunters one by one, plus with less cool downs they can leap or charge to safety so they can do hit and run tactics that blue goliaths can't.
I'm enjoying the game so far but my fucking god does this shit get annoying
>Game disconnects before the game starts
>Game disconnects half way through
>Game disconnects one person so we all have to go back into lobby only to find out you can't relaunch the game
I'm disappointed that the game doesn't have a character that's literally Ahnold, complete with accent and cheesy one-liners.
>>344627905
I want a trapper that is just Pete Postlethwaite's rendition of Road Tembo from The Lost World. Complete with his own Indian hunting partner.
>>344628532
That's pretty good as well. But I guess it's for the best they're avoiding movie cliches for now.
>>344628649
Well hopefully in time we will both get something along those lines.
So as a monster, if you pounce someone can you cancel it?
Downed a lazarus and pounced the assault, realized my mistake when the support completely ignored the assault and revived the laz, mashed buttons to cancel the pounce.
Also, when a monster pounces a hunter (who was unaware of the monsters presence because the monster was behind a rock or something) is it startling? Does it remain in fp for the hunter?
This is important to my boner.
Also for those of you having trouble as monster, DON'T SNEAK GLOBAL SCAN MAKES THIS NEAR USELESS aside from the very beginning to maybe throw off a retarded hunter.
Just run in a straightish line away from spawn and cycle travel ability with an ability that also moves you (like goliath jump, charge, jump, jump)
I will typically encounter the hunters once or twice before reaching level 3 by just hauling ass in an outer circle around the map.
>>344628849
I don't think it's cancelable, but I never tried. I think you go into 3rd person when you're helpless, same as when you're pinned by man eating plants or the tyrant.
>>344628849
Sneaking is pretty much fucking useless in general because Hunters WILL pop it once it comes off cooldown because it's a free track. They really need to alter it to either a limited number of charges or increase the cooldown time.
Any hidden challenges that give lots of keys? Just got 245 for getting a 10 win streak
Isn't the PC version now graphically inferior to the console versions, due to the removal of player animations during selection and removal of weather effects? Any chance of them being added back in, or is the average F2Pers PC too fucking weak for that?
>>344627039
I have only lost once as monster, and that was as Goliath as opposed to meteor
Feels to me that meteor is better, when support shields someone you can just 360 the fire to throw em into panic
On paper goliath sounds better than meteor, but thats not how it feels to me
>>344629530
On that note, do you get a lot of keys for destroying the radio tower?
The game just will not shut up about being able to win that way but it's like a hundred times more convenient to just kill the hunters as a level 3 monster. I almost did it the other night but the last player standing was Bucket and he was being a big pain in the ass so I had to just put him down.
>>344629838
Weather effects and/or night time darkness were both removed because the Shader is broken. As far as I know they're intended to be added back in ASAP.
>>344630247
Meteor is better for groups, normal is better for 1v1. Medic/support can't keep up if everyone is constantly on fire.
>>344610350
>completely annihilates the hunters
you are either not really good, or you have at least one person in your group who doesn't know what to do
With a good group you can beat any monster (except Wraith)
How do I deal with stasis grenades
I'm popping cooldowns to get away and leaping to cover more ground but it never feels like enough and the hunters are always right on my tail.
What do
>>344610350
I've seen conflicting opinions whether or not the hunters assrape the monster or the other way around, so I'll assume the game is actually balanced that way.
>>344610350
>want to get the game
>mixed reviews
>all assblasted people that paid 60 bucks and feel scammed
So what are the actual flaws of the game? I don't really care that developers fucked over the premium fanbase.
>reqiuriments
>50 gig space
lol no
>>344632406
it's fun
It is Attack on Titans with the Cryengine
>>344632406
Repetitive as shit.
>>344610350
Im enjoying it. Wish i didnt spend my MonsterKoins on that fucking faggot with the harpoon gun, it's useless.
Ill probably buy the bitch with the tranq gun next
I thought this had more than one game mode
Also when I saw gameplay of this a year ago it looked like a hide and seek type thing where the humans had to work hard to find the monster, but playing it now they get a fucking autolocator on the monster in addition to footprints and birds, AND WHY THE FUCK CAN ANYONE PUT OUT THE FORCE FIELD TRAP WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE A TRAPPER EXCLUSIVE ABILITY WHAT THE FUCK
>>344632406
Asymetric competitive multiplayer doesnt work for long stretches of time.
>>344632408
It says 50gb but it's only a 20gb download.
is meteor goliath actually better than regular goliath? I like the blue flames but whats the actual difference?
>>344632408
Eeeeeh? What are you saying, you baka? Don't say such stupid things, you fool!
>>344620150
>>344620367
its so fucking surreal how you can identify a redditposter so easily in a thread
>>344632512
They changed the maps so they temporarily removed the other game modes while they updated them.
>>344632610
>>344631046
>>344630247
>>344627592
>>344627249
I have never lost as meteor goliath
>>344632530
why?
>>344623353
there's no reason to force yourself back to the ship unless you see that the respawn time for people on the ship is at like 6 seconds or something
>have to help friend with somethign
>fuck but im in the middle of a match
>whatever Ill take the penalty if they have one
>come back later and im still in the game, just a bot is autopiloting for me
>can seamlessly take over right away and get back in the action
more games should do this
I want to fuck the Wraith.
>>344632875
You can manually switch to bot control by clicking Take a Break on the menu, too. And you can hotswap to bot-controlled characters with the... 6-9 keys, I believe. Don't do it as monster though; its AI is broken as fuck.
>>344632465
Griffith is pretty good though. His sound spikes are one of the better trapper special weapons.
HOW DO I PLAY WRAITH
>>344632530
wasn't L4D super popular for quite a while
>>344633034
With despair, but also an erection.
>>344633034
Aim for the medic and watch the whole team fall apart.
Wraith is literal easy mode.
>have to pop every movement cooldown with goliath and do three leaps in a row just to get away from stasis grenade spam
Tell me its easier with other monsters, please.
>>344633359
Mostly. Kraken can't fly, but Wraith and Bob don't give a fuck, and Gorgon can usually zip away if you hit the string just right.
Game would be much more fun if medic and support were always played as bots
Human players are unable to play them, they dont know their role in fights, this is why monster wins 90% of the time.
Before I start the download:
Do you have to grind for shit? Are there microtransactions to bypass grind?
>>344633550
do you play with spastics?
>>344633594
Yeah you have to grind a bit but they're really generous with the currency, Otherwise for bypassing grind you need to own the game before it went f2p or buy a founders key off g2a or some key website like that.
>>344633594
Yes, gain coins and shit from playing, shit unlocks from playing aswell.
Weekly rotations.
>planet scanner
>gorgons
The fuck? I stopped playing this game when it died a couple weeks before a potential "Old lady in a mech suit" was released. This would have been a year ago now or something.
What the fuck have I missed? /v/ always shit on this game but I had a great time with it.
>>344610350
moment of silence for those who paid for this game while most people don't even bother downloading it even if it's free
what perks do i buy to git gud?
>>344633979
>planet scanner
its what its sounds like
hunters have a relatively low CD ability that tells them the general direction the monster is in
because of this (and what seems to me to be smaller maps) stealth is now useless as the monster, and imo running and being efficient is much more effective as monster
>gorgons
You know how goliath is the all arounder bruiser? And Wraith is the glass cannon?
Gorgon is the glass utility mage, has a lot of options but isnt the best at tanking or doing damage.
However due to the aforementioned stealth being useless, its pretty much a "not good as wraith" wraith.
>>344634239
>has to have perks
Scrub
>>344633979
You're thinking of Lennox. She's pretty good. There's also a savage trapper named Jack with a neat glove that stops monsters dead if they're jumping/flying/whatever. EMET is a robot that switches between the nicest medic you'll ever meet and TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH. And Kala, who is an autistic monstergirl that can set up teleporters and instantly and temporarily deplete the monster's shields, allowing the team to attack their health directly.
The only truly new monster is the Gorgon, which is a freakish bug thing that zips around like Spider-Man. They also released "adapations" of the Goliath (trades burst for DoTs) and Kraken (melee/close-range version). Wraith was supposed to get an adaption as well, but I guess it was cut because the game fell to like 50 concurrent players.
The game underwent some drastic changes and became F2P a couple days ago, hence the sudden surge in popularity. You can do your own research here, I'm sure.
>>344634113
>most people don't even bother
kek
are you blind or just retarded?
Is it true the game has great character personalities? That's huge for me if so.
>>344634239
in my experience as monster, movement speed and nothing but (aside from perks that are like 30% eating speed 6% movement speed when the other option is just a 7% movement speed)
if the monster gets to level 3 it pretty much wins unless its retarded, since you have the general stats to win a fair fight, avoidance early on is the name of the game
>>344634295
>because of this (and what seems to me to be smaller maps) stealth is now useless as the monster
Dropped.
>>344634376
oh we got a b2p moron here
>>344623482
they marketed this hard with gamejournos and twitch
>>344634451
ikr
I hope they increase map size/time to evolve and remove planetary scanner
it'd make a larger learning curve for both hunter and monster, but the new stealth hide and seek gameplay would be more satisfying imo
>>344634385
If you like this, yes. There are a LOT of pre-game conversations between the hunters, and they chatter on the ground a lot too.
https://youtu.be/krVyx2JybvY?t=11
>>344610928
>Trapper ever shooting
Nigga you are the kind of cancer that keeps your team alive and the monster mad
>>344634113
Phil Lamaar is my favorite VA
>play with 3 friends
>very coordinated hunting
>rek monsters all day
