Putting aside the original 2D Fallout games, is Fallout 3 the best 3D game in the series?
I'm wondering if I should start playing the series with 3 or 4, and I've seen people shit a lot on 4 while I've heard very good things about 3.
>>344603553
Vegas
3 is trash but not as bad as 4
The people who praise 3 are the people who never played a Fallout game before it, much the same way with FF7 praisers and Human Revolution players.
>inb4 "i only want to play the main games!"
>>344603857
What's wrong with Human Revolution?
>>344604119
>Deus Ex
>Conspiracy Theories: The Game
>Human Revolution
>Halfbaked Transhumanism Debate: The Game
>>344603553
I enjoyed New Vegas, more than any Bethesda game actually.
I do however wish the faction quests were as atmospheric as skyrim's "guild" quests. Helping the boomers is not nearly as satisfying as helping the thieves/dark brotherhood.
>>344604229
>skyrim
meant oblivion, but skyrim applies too I guess
Dont listen to these ass jews, never touch new vegas, play 3 and then 4. Obsidian gamers are elitist cancer.
>>344604530
I will never buy your games todd
>>344604225
I don't see the problem here.
>>344604229
NV faction quests were alright.
>>344603553
Play NV
>>344603857
>>344604225
Human Revolution was relatively well-received by fans of the original when it released, mostly because it was expected to be far worse. Not having as much fun with conspiracies isn't even the biggest flaw though. Anybody who think it's better than the original is a retard though.
>>344604597
>>344604679
I think what he means is that the later drifted too far from the original and the theme of the game is fucking stupid
>>344604864
Go ahead. Pull it. I know you won't YOU FUCKING PUSSY
>>344603553
New Vegas
>>344603553
vegas has the best story so if thats what youre interested in start there. 4 has better combat and crafting but the story is shit
>>344604864
People with taste.
>>344604119
nothing. it's a very good game.
>>344604597
WHY THE FUCK NOT
>>344605116
They just don't work.
>>344605116
You know why.
>>344605074
YOU FUCKING MC NIGGER KEKOLD FAGFUCKER JEW MC DICK IN ASS, AFTER HOW MUCH I GAVE TO YOUR COMPANY HOW DARE YOU. I GAVE YOU A FUCKING ENGINE!!!
>>344605189
IT ALWAYS WORKS
>>344605305
And we gave you an IP to run into the ground.
>>344604530
>Elder Scrolls Anthology disks are all DRM free except for Skyrim
>Fallout Anthology disks only work with Steam
Why, Todd?
I'd like to hear Todd Howard sing a song and put it in game. Four times.
>>344605447
SAWYER YOU THICKENING BALLSACK, YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS
>>344605473
Because...
>>344605410
Not this time. I can't climb any mountains in 3 or 4. I can climb two in NB
>>344605606
Looks like we had to cut Todd's lifeshort.
>>344605473
Whats wrong with steam?
oh nothing?
moving on
>>344605910
Sawyerposting > Toddposting
if you don't really care too much about immersion and a deep story, and want a game with a world just to explore, then go fallout 3. The capital wasteland has more mysterious, dead vibe. Most of the locations have little backstory, or anything really- I was constantly asking myself, "why is this here?" You're gonna have a blast discovering stuff.
If you want the opposite, then go NV. The Mojave is alive, everything has a purpose, the game's story and factions are very well done. I thought the DLC story was incredible.
Fallout 3 DLC is shit except for Point Lookout. All really short and lame. Pitt was good story wise, but thats really it.
New Vegas DLC is great story wise but meh gameplay. Old World Blues is amazing. I thought Lonesome road was solid, but way too short.
Fallout 3 gets a lot of shit, but still a solid game. New Vegas was rushed, but well made.
If you're on PC, get both immediately. Mods make these game absolutely incredible.
You can pick up both will full DLC for what, 20 each? Go for it.
>>344606251
>if you don't really care too much about immersion and a deep story, and want a game with a world just to explore, then go fallout 3.
This is why everyone hates you people
>>344603553
The best 3d game in series is NV by a longshot. F3 is ok, if you like bethesda's open worlds.
>>344603857
Nigga you clueless, F2 is my absolute goat followed maybe only by planescape, and yet I found F3 quite enjoyable. If you ignore the "fallout" in title that is.
Human Revolution is good. Not great, but good.
>>344606251
>New Vegas was rushed, but well made.
>well made
>game is 80% bugs
>>344606969
You can blame Bethesda for the shit engine.
>>344606969
>seriously buggy game
>84 Metacritic
Yep, seems about right
>>344606954
>If you ignore the "fallout" in title that is.
And that's my point. If it weren't titled Fallout, it would have been a fine game with no expectations. Instead, they stapled an old franchise name on it purely because it was marketable without bothering for it to make any sense in the canon.
New Vegas is way better. I think you know that though and you just want those sweet sweet (you)s.
>>344604119
Nothing, it's just faggots who want people to really know they played the original Dues ex...Which is funny because a lot of people have.
>>344607071
Everyone at Besthesda -- even the fucking interns and janitors -- BELONG ON A FUCKING CROSS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>344607071
>You can blame Bethesda for something out of their control
Obsidian had every chance to use a different engine, they chose to game gamebryo
>mfw Ididn't think new vegas was all that great
>>344603553
>I've heard very good things about 3.
Who the fuck is saying this in 2016?
>>344607507
It's the best Fallout game there is.
>>344607456
(you)
If you're actually this retarded, they had a very strict schedule given by bethesda. They had no choice but to use the engine
alsokill yourself............
>>344607627
That would be 2
>>344607556
He's probably from rebbit/neogaf/gamefaqs
>>344607659
>Memeout Poo
>the best
>>344605293
This hurts too much to read.
>>344607627
It's the best game there is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQsbSUQkQzI
>>344607224
Yeah that kinda irritates me too.
Hell they should've named it The Elder Scrolls 2277: Capital Wasteland
Would've sell still
>>344607654
Did you work for Obsidian during NV's development?
No?
Then stop acting like you know squat about what Obsidian was and was not allowed to do
>>344607808
Stop shilling someone else's video you faggot
>>344607659
2 is a complete piece of shit. It was unanimously considered to be worse than the original in every fathomable way on release and it still is.
"2 > 1 > NV" was a shitty meme started on Reddit, while the real list is NV = 1 > 2 > 3 > 4.
>>344603553
I think bringing back old games to 3D is really weird. 2D isometric art of Fallout is completely ruined now. They could've made a different game under a different title but they had to do tap to the people who've only heard Fallout's name.
I think Fallout 3-4, Vegas are just fine. But they're not very consistent with the atmosphere 1 and 2 had. I play games for the atmosphere and story.
>>344607789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78I'm sorry but that was only the surface.
>>344607886
Were you? No? Shut the fuck up.
>>344607804
It's objectively the greatest piece of media ever made.
3 is good if you just want a TES game in a Fallout skin but NV is a better Fallout game.
>>344604119
Contrarian hipsters who claim that Invisible Wars is a better game despite Invisible Wars being the most consolized piece of shit ever.
>>344603553
Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded.
>>344607886
its well known they were given a time limit, there is no way they could build an engine that fast. Plus, fallout 3 was just as buggy at launch, and bethesda was in charge of Quality control, so its their fault it was buggy
>wants to get into the series
>disregards the original games
fucking kill yourself. I bet you're what, 15?
>Everyone on /v/ hates Fallout 4 (indeed, they hate everything new)
>mfw Fallout 4 was actually really good and a great fresh start after the turd that was skyrim
Also
>implying a company can't change bits and pieces of their world lore after 15+ years
>>344608291
>their lore
>>344608291
>Their lore
Also
>Hating Skyrim and loving Fallout 4 despite Skyrim being more of an RPG than Fallout 4
kek
Fallout 1 was the only good fallout game. NV was a nice try, but its atrocious engine and combat ruined it
>>344608291
>was actually really good
>>344605293
>>344607990
Somebody please bomb Bethesda HQ so our beloved franchise won't be held captive any more.
>>344608427
I need to let go.I can't.
>>344608232
They didn't have to build one, just use a different one, Obsidian chose to use gamebryo
>>344603553
>go find your dad
Why? He left me to die in a vault.
>>344608661
>You have 18 months
>You can either use this engine with all these assets and SPECIAL system already made
>Or you can another engine and start from scratch
Yeah, sure, what a "choice"
>>344608291
Fallout 4 is actually really good if you pretend its not a Fallout game. It's fun to get lost in and shoot baddies. But as a sequel to a beloved RPG series its a fucking atrocity. Just because you personally had fun with it doesnt mean that our objective criticisms are any less valid
also
>referring to /v/ as though you're not on it right now
go back to r/gaming, faggotron
>>344608291
Neo/v/ and reddit hates 4 and praises NV also constantly sucks sawyer's SJW cock.
Im having a blast with 4, now nearing 1.5k hours.
Been playing multiple playstyles despite all the claims having only one role.
>>344608291
When will this meme die?
>>344608401
elder god-tier taste right here, anon
>>344608826
Melee, Guns or Luck? Those are the builds.
>>344608854
>Unironically condemning a meme while posting a meme reply.
>they had a time limit!
>they had to use a shitty engine!
I don't care. I feel sorry that Obsidian got the shaft, but I'm not willing to play a game with shit gameplay out of sympathy
>>344608826
Good for you buddy, you can stop sucking todds cock. I don't think he's here.
>>344608938
There's multiple endings, not ? Have you actually played the so called "turd" before you judge ?
>>344608327
>>344608396
>If you purchase something, it doesn't belong to you!
>>344608820
To be fair, while the argument of 'it's a good game but not a good X game' is valid in some respects, Fallout 4 actually feels like a Fallout game and better yet had new gameplay features and mechanics that drove home the central point; crafting, settlements, and so on reinforce the central point of being in a post apocalyptic wasteland.
>>344609026
>I don't know what gameplay in an RPG is
>>344608961
But it's true. The whole /v/ hating everything meme should die.
>>344609076
>Blow up the Institute
>Don't blow up the Institute
>>344608661
You're saying they should have built New Vegas from scratch in 18 months? Okay, anon.
>>344609076
I didn't say anything about the ending (there is only one with two voice overs). I assumed by 'playstyles' you meant character builds, because I know you didn't mean any form of role-playing.
>>344609142
>gameplay in an RPG is SUPPOSED to be terrible!
>>344609034
>not sucking the chraming alpha manlet Todd
>but sucking gay ass faggot SJW supporting cucked Sawyer's unwashed villager cock
Man, you are the lowest of all kinds.
>>344609349
I never said I did. What's with you a cocks buddy?
>>344609328
>the only type of gameplay is combat
Fuck off back to Skyrim.
>>344609084
Wow. I love fallout shelter 2/fallout minecraft/fallout of duty too
>>344609165
>Blow up the Institute and the Brotherhood
>Blow up the Institute and slaughter the Railroad
>Blow up the Brotherhood and slaughter the Railroad
There's three endings
>>344609165
>giving you the option to suggest the most logical solution to the problem
>companion tells you no because of an arbitrary reason
It's an impressively bad moment in vidya.
>>344609494
>The only difference is who you get to slaughter/blow up despite 3/4 of the factions have no reason to kill each other
>>344608826
>1.5k hours in a singleplayer game
literal autism
>>344609494
Don't forget about those lazy assholes called the Minutemen.
Fallout as a series just isn't very good I've found. The only real great aspects across every title is atmosphere and world-building. Fallout 3 was my fist FO and I fuckin' loved the shit out of it. Had to have put 300 hours in over several characters, loved the world, the RPG mechanics were alright, and the choices were pretty decent. Looking back it's definitely not the best in the series, but being the first I played everything was new and exciting.
Played NV next. It was very clear that the writing was much better, but the Mojave was much more boring to explore. Now, I can't really explain why. It's a brown tint versus a green tint, really. My only thought is that FO3 being my first, it was a new experience. For gameplay, NV just wasn't fresh and different enough. Objectively it was deeper, there was more to the guns and the combat and the factions and whatnot, but it just wasn't enough more to make me want to dig my teeth into it. I finished the game once, did half the first DLC, and never touched it again despite acknowledging that it's objectively better in damn near every way.
After this I decided to try classic FO and picked up 1 and 2. Couldn't play either more than an hour. I was around 21 when I did this, and holy fuck those games are aged, and they ran like ass on Windows 7. I'd like to give them another try, but it won't be soon. I can't call them bad or say much since I didn't play enough to get a reasonable judgement, but they're very old-schoo.
And then FO4. Didn't even finish it, played for the weekend after it came out (thank god I pirated it). Overall it was just very meh. As far as gameplay goes, it's just as shallow as FO3, moreso in some areas. Settlements are something the series just didn't need, and the story is completely worse and the dialogue options are so horrible I'm offended. But, I can see how most bro gamers would be all over it. Like how FO3 is to me.
So, yeah. Every game (except for NV) has very deep flaws. Series is 6/10.
>>344609084
>missing the point of Fallout completely
oh god you are fucking retarded. the central point of Fallout is the fucking ROLE PLAYING as it was in the original games which you would know if you ACTUALLY PLAYED THEM. Fallout 1 and 2 could have been released as tabletop games and it would have almost been the same. when people heard 3 was finally happening THAT'S what they wanted: an actual sequel to the ROLE PLAYING games they loved so much. Bethesda has absolutely no respect for the source material that they're milking
>>344609750
>despite 3/4 of the factions have no reason to kill each other
Glad you admit to being a massive retard who has no idea what the story of Fo4 is
It's still a shit game, but the main story is good
>>344609453
You aren't implying that Skyrim has good combat, are you?
>>344609780
>FNV
>The game just didn't impress me is a valid argument
>Fo1 and 2
>They're old and boring. I don't like old and boring is a valid argument
>>344609780
>didn't play the first (and best) games of the series
>rating the entire series
You fucking idiot. Either way, the Fallout series is at least 7/10 (the actual 7/10, not the meme 7/10)
>>344603553
3 is my favorite, but that probably has a lot to do with it being the first Bethesda-style RPG I played. Most people will tell you New Vegas is the best one, and that game is definitely an alright game too. Beware the Dead Money DLC, though, it's fucking G A R B A G E.
>>344609991
>the main story is good
>>344609780
I first played 3 when I was 15. I went and beat both 1 and 2 afterwards. playing through 2 again right now, at 22, actually. you just suck at video games
>>344610009
No, of course not.
>>344609991
Why then faggot. Why would the Minutemen, Bos, and railroad fight each other you colossal faggot
>>344610016
I said NV was the best, and I said that I couldn't call either 1 or 2 bad because I didn't play them enough, nor did I say they were boring. Aged does not equal bad, it just means it's hard to get into for someone who didn't play games back then.
>>344610157
That's something I'm never going to tell you because that would mean you could fake it easier next time, if you want answers you're going to have to at the very least watch a letsplay of it
>>344609991
The story is bad, so many plot holes. It's a fucking mess.
>>344609991
>shoot Father in the head
>game barely acknowledges such a huge choice
>>344610176
So why would you review the entire series if you didn't play the whole thing. If I read a book you like and read 15 pages, and said it was a 6/10, you would call me an idiot and rightfully so.
>>344609453
New Vegas does have a fair amount of focus on combat. Combine that with shit combat and it creates a game I don't want to play, despite its good RPG elements
>>344610286
U just dnt get it
(You)
>>344609449
You're the one started with cocks, so cocks ensured.
Ironic.
>>344610461
Play DOOM if you want good combat. It's better than fo4
>>344610461
Why is NV combat bad? Tell me in your own words.
>>344610157
New /V/egas fag, ladies and gentlemen.
>>344610592
We are on /v/, nigger.
>>344610512
>constantly sucks sawyer's sjw cock.
I liked all of them so far (including tactics 3 and 4)
I have a feeling the next fallout will be a cut off for me.
(unless Obsidian makes another first)
I only play through Fallout 3 when i am doing a TTW playthrough.
>>344610592
The only group that should be fighting is the institute and BoS. Tech vs Tech. That should have been the point. Betterment of society vs wanting to go back to the past.
>>344603725
Vegas>4>shit>3
>>344603553
Play 3's GOTY edition and then play New Vegas once you finish with all of 3's content. You won't be able to go back t 3 once you realize how shitty everything was. Everything in New Vegas is better but some people prefer to go through ruined rubble instead of a deaert so I'll let people keep that. I'm still upset at how in retrospect that Fallout 3 wasn't as good as it could have been for the first 3D Fallout.
>>344610904
>Betterment of society
>>344610993
NV > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 = Shelter
>>344607990
>"The IGN review of Fallout 3 talked about how fucking deep and intricate the morality system is and that doing bad things could have dangerous and long lasting effects, he says this over footage of his character picking up a fork, and as all the objects on the table bizarrely float around for no reason, the entire city begins to shoot him to death"
>"Kevin, you're calling the game deep and involving over footage of you friendly firing your fucking allies for no reason, that guy shows up to HELP you"
Holy kek, this is gonna be good
>>344609165
>>344609494
>>344609768
>>344609076
>Unlike previous games, the Fallout 4 ending cutscene does not change based on how the Sole Survivor has finished most quests or interacted with other people. Only the choice of completing Nuclear Family or The Nuclear Option has any effect on the ending. Also, unlike previous games, the ending is voiced by the Sole Survivor instead of Ron Perlman, and unlike the intro - it is based on the chosen gender.
LITERALLY 1 ACTUAL VARIABLE
(voice doesn't count, as it says the same, i could mod in Text to speech and make it 50 endings just by changing the voice reading out)
>>344611081
What I mean is the game shouldn't have been about people protecting the rights of toasters. It should have been about the institute fighting against the BoS over technology and why the people of the wasteland should be able to use it.
>>344607990
>has a video called "Antifeminism VS FACTS"
>has an unironic trigger warning
>literally says "If for some reason you're upset by trigger warnings I want you to GROW UP YOU BIG FUCKING BABY"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc24YtUslCU
>>344607789
>>344610993
shit taste
3 felt thousands of times more like Fallout 1 and 2, even if there were things like how ruined the capital was despite 200 years going by. The atmosphere is probably the best in the series and it was far more complex than 4, even if 3 isn't exactly noteworthy of such.
>>344611362
>>344611310
>first 3D fallout that lets you play past the ending by default
>ending doesn't change based on your choices
>>344610461
There are mods to fix the game's combat.
There are no mods to fix Fallout 3 and 4's story.
>>344609494
There are two endings, and there is only one variance in a game where your "choices" matter. Wanna look at how many endings NV has?
>>344611367
>hi I'm retarded and obviously didn't play NV
>>344610870
>Obsidian makes another
>>344611512
NV has 0
>forgetting the game quits to the title screen when you beat it
>>344611574
I wasn't shunting NV, i'm the guy he/you replied too. I'm just saying that Fallout 3 felt more like a fallout game than 4, which is barren.
>>344611658
So do the first two games. You know, the ACTUAL Fallout games.
>>344607939
Honestly that's my list. I've gotten halfway through fallout 2 and I end up getting bored. Where as I've beaten fallout 1 3 times. The 3rd time was a couple weeks ago
>>344607939
I'd go with 1 > NV > 2 > don't care about the rest personally.
what are some things that were common in the original Fallout games that should be part of every subsequent game?
I got Vault Dwellers, purestrain, and FEV. However, Fallout 1 and 2 wasn't solely about those things and had even bigger developments, usually having to do with the intro video but taking place very late into the game.
Fallout Tactics had the most replays from me.
Fallout 2 I think I spent the most time.
Fallout I played once, then moved to Fallout 2 and never went back.
Fallout 3 i rushed through as fast as possible then never ever touched it again, was also hands down the most buggy experience i've had playing a video game.
Fallout NV is the only one i never finished because it bored the pants off of me.
take Fallout, remove the good random encounters, remove VATS being actually good and remove most of the iconic weapons and add pointless gambling, then you have Fallout New Vegas.
i like Fallout 4 the most just because of how nice and smooth the modding experience has been. okay, maybe i have a watered down ass game, but we had that with Skyrim too. at least the game + the modding experience isn't fucktarded at the same time with FO4.
>>344610572
>stealth makes everything easy
>companions turn every fight into a cakewalk
>sluggish movement
>bullet sponge enemies
>bad AI, enemies with with melee weapons jog in a straight line towards you, and they are completely helpless if you snipe them from a distance
>Stimpaks out the ass make surviving combat trivial
>VATS feels odd in the game, as if they tried mixing FPS and Turn Based combat together.
I did enjoy the variety of guns and the specialized ammo types, it just wasn't enough for me.
>>344612014
Ghouls need food to live.
>>344609084
>>If you purchase something, it doesn't belong to you!
Yeah, that's right.
If whoever holds the rights for Lord of the Rings writes new books and contradicts, conflicts or invalidates what Tolkein wrote would you consider it legitimate lore?
I fucking wouldn't.
>>344611796
>Improvement isn't a good thing
>>344612198
Not the dumbest thing Bethesda's ever done, but it's pretty high up there.
>>344612161
You know, i thought im the only one. My taste is almost the same except 5% difference because i replayed FO BoS on ps2 with my friends brazillian times.
Its like final fight with light item management elements and stats.
>>344611116
/thread
>>344612198
>>344612241
>B-b-but they bought it and hold the legal rights!
Some "people" believe that.
>>344612241
Well while you're at it go spend all your shekels on Lucas and Tolkein and all the old directors big companies ripped off.
Let's see them coming back, if not shut up and move on to something else you hipster.
Inb4 ewww you jew.
>>344612253
>I finished my book and it's over waaaaahh! I want the book to continue!!
>>344612651
someone tweet this webm to pete hines please
>>344612014
Well I don't know, an actual roleplaying maybe? The player having a perception of the world instead of the world having one over the player, judging his every move? Freedom to play however the fuck you want (including being able to kill/steal from/persuade/sneak past EVERY single npc in the game and still see the ending), aka variability? Theme of human nature redlining throughout every single settlement and side quest? Post-apocalypse being not the central idea the story is revolving around, but rather only a stage for multiple beliefs to clash on?
Fuck I don;t know, the Original Fallout itself should be part of every subsequent game
Do you ever think the theme of new vegas was letting go because we will never get another fallout game like it?
>>344612842
But anon le wacky 50's a e s t h e t i c.
>>344612842
i missed the individual icons in your inventory and the "use on" command and prompts/warnings the most. an example would be using a rope in your inventory because you had to climb down into a dark pit but you also needed flares to see if you can even reach the ground. Then it will ask you to send someone down there because it looks like its big enough for only one person to go in.
THAT kind of RPG stuff.
Fallout 3, like LOZ: OoT, was a product of the time.
>>344612815
It's funny in a sad sort of way how he uses the argument for realism when it's actually a matter of internal consistency.
>>344613010
Remember the most frightening weapon humanity ever created?
LOL WACKY VIOLENCE ITCHY AND SCRATCHY LOB NUCLEAR BOMBS LIKE IT'S NOTHING
>>344613142
nukes are bad, remember?
here, have some more mini-nukes!
>>344612987
Tbh, all the fallout nv DLCs are about the end of the franchise.
>OWB
Realizing that we'll never have another great fallout game
>DM
Acknowledge above and start letting go
>HH
The fan base decides to evacuate the series (zion) or stay and crush the new faggots (white legs)
>LR
Whether it's staying or leaving, it's a lonesome road we all walk that's been walked by countless others before.
Ex.) people waiting for half life 3, Kotor 3, shenmue, etc
>>344613219
>Bethesda is literally making Wacky 50's Land the DLC
I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure.
>>344613071
>icons in inventory
Fucking this. This thing ever was and should ever be mandatory in RPG with inventory present, how the fuck did bethesda just get rid of it is beyond me.
>>344613010
Oh yeah, let's make this the central theme of our new sandbox shooter game! Would it have any meaning? Hell fucking no, but it looks cool, doesn't it?
![fallout-shelter-pc-version-release-date-mobile-update-16-features-new-quests-combat[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bw84MFk.jpg "fallout-shelter-pc-version-release-date-mobile-update-16-features-new-quests-combat[1].jpg")
>>344613409
the last straw that did it for me was this. i had that "george lucas and steven spielberg raping indiana jones" moment for me
>>344613142
This always bothered me, but it was especially bad in Fallout 4
>Crawl Out Through the Fallout
This song gets played on the radio all the time. Wouldn't this be fucking triggeringinb4 Tumblrfor the survivors? At the very least, they wouldn't want to listen to a song that trivializes the event that ruined the world
>>344613071
>pro tip
You don't need flares for the elevator and you can to use items by opening your inventory and equipping the item then selecting "use on" or you can hold left click over the thing you want to affect and select the backpack icon to choose the item you want to use on it
>>344613409
They just won't stop. Never Ever. It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone, we're stuck in the 50's forever.
>>344613409
Transcend emotions, just feel nothing.
>LISA written by Bethesda
>Evangelion written and directed by bethesda
That would be terrifying
.>>344613219
>>344613554
i know. i'm just saying that you can. because of the way bethesda does their games and with open world, you can't have those features in the game anymore.
>>344613409
>puke
More like have a nuke! Haha
>>344604530
>>344604864
>>344605116
>>344605305
>>344612468
i woulda tried that one, but i was done with consoles when that came around, was completely focused on Counter-Strike/Warcraft.
>>344613626
>Transcend emotions, just feel nothing.
Is that you, Junko?
>>344613409
Let go. Being again. Don't let your anger cloud you and turn you into a ghost of yourself.
>>344613352
One has to wonder if Van Buren/New Vegas was intended by the creators to be the final Fallout game, and Bethesda's ownership isn't so much a superseding of an ideal franchise future that could have been but an unwanted extension of it, like one of those awful "postscript seasons" that plague properly concluded TV shows.
>>344614016
No...
>>344603553
no
New Vegas is by far the best of the three 3D games.
![Fallout_2_(PC)_03[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/mOOJKIw.png "Fallout_2_(PC)_03[1].png")
>>344613626
the first thing i noticed was pre-war vertibirds. then the next thing i noticed was the blast while going down the elevator to the vault. I am looking into the blast. OKAY I AM BLIND NOW. NEVER MIND THAT. If I am that close enough to the blast, everything should be destroyed now. And the other thing about leaving the vault for the first time: and I remember this very specifically because it's the first thing you see in the Fallout 2 intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SxRNua0TGY
I KNEW FROM THAT POINT ON THEY HAD NEVER PLAYED THE ORIGINALS. AND FURTHERMORE, THEY DO NOT CARE.
>>344614216
Hey man, I got something for you.
>>344614198
3 and NV both have different parts of van buren in them. Like how 3 is all about the T45 power armor and shit, while the burned man made it into NV.
>>344611348
He's also a fucking commie.
>>344614198
the people who made van buren/new vegas had absolutely no control over the IP so that's not a decision they could even make
>>344613097
Are you implying that FO3 is good or that OoT is bad? These are both bad choices.
>>344614545
Fuck that blast at the start. Even if you're a few inches underneath that when it passes, you'd still get a good dose of radiation.
>>344608291
But Fallout 4 was even more dumbed down then Skyrim. I mean yeah it's great if you are braindead
>>344608291
>Neo-/v/ is real
>>344609494
>Blow up X
>Blow up X and Y
>Blow up Y and Z
Three "endings" that all feel the same. Bravo Bethesda
the only good thing i could take out of Fallout 4 is all the potential that any competent developer could use to make a good legit Fallout game.
Bethesda makes templates, leaving other people to make actual Fallout games over them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnedb7XKycc
Now if you like playing templates that's fine. 3 and 4 are nice and comfy in that respect and most people will enjoy that. If you need the game to be a fleshed out RPG then you probably have already played all the games and wouldn't be making this thread.
See: >>344615401
>>344606969
Not as buggy as 3 or 4
>>344606969
Welcome to every Bethesda game newfag
>>344615506
Except there is never going to be another New Vegas built on top of FO4. Beth and the franchise creators clearly hate each other after the development hell and critical/financial disaster of NV (along with FO4 utterly crushing it in terms of sales) so look forward to pic related until the end of video games.
>>344606660
Wow. PLAYING games. Who'd've thunk peopl'd do that. I fer one only live mah games. No fun fer me I reckon. Jus' escapin'.
>>344615790
>>344615931
what happened here?
>>344615931
>Beth and the franchise creators clearly hate each other after the development hell and critical/financial disaster of NV
Fuck straight off
They don't hate each other, but Bethesda is never going to let them make another Fallout game because Bethesda doesn't need any help raping the series
>>344615517
It periodically crashes for no reason and drops to 5fps every first trip to cottenwood, those are pretty serious bugs compared to 4.
>>344614216
>>344614558
Take it! Be happy! Or I'll take something from her.
I have only played 3 and 4 and I love them both, but I have my problems with 4's retarded dialogue options and lack of roleplay elements. The game kind of restricts you on choice in a lot of grating ways, but everything else is fantastic imo.
I'm getting into Fallout 1 and 2 and New Vegas is currently the only one I don't own. I'll pick up soon, but even though I haven't yet played it, I promise you that everything you hear on /v/ is an exaggeration. Beth Fallouts are not utter shit and New Vegas is not some flawless magnum opus of videogames, /v/ is just full of contrarian hipsters constantly trying to pull the underdog up by the heels while shitting on everything else.
>>344613550
>>344613550
for most of the NPC's the war probably is something their great grandparents talked about, I mean it's 200 years after Zero hour, the wasteland is the only thing the people know, so I don't think it would trigger them, it's like if you got triggered by some folk song from the times American Revolution or by some English folk song from the 1600
Bethesda has made one good game. Morrowind. Every other game before and after that has been either average or bad.
>>344617834
The /v/ hating everything meme should die.
>>344613590
I still don't know why Bethesda thinks Fallout=50's... I mean yeah the world didn't progress in the same vein as ours but that doesn't mean they got stuck on the fucking 50's I mean the first 2 fallouts never implied that mankind was perpetually stuck in post ww2 aesthetics
4 has the best gameplay (changes to stats and perks aside) but the worst writing.
>>344617992
But it's true. Just look at some of the "Wacky Beth Fallout" screenshots above and you'll see that /v/ is incapable of accepting anything new, and they don't know how to have fun. Honestly I don't give a single shit about most of the stuff /v/ nitpicks.
![Fallout2-P90[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y510dEo.jpg "Fallout2-P90[1].jpg")
>>344617997
they sure didn't
>>344618318
Because you probably don't care about quality. Fun, fun, fun. Go have fun then. We can sit here and complain, go have "fun". Also if a game is shit it will be called out for being shit.
>>344618592
Sure I care about quality. If I didn't, I wouldn't say that Fallout 4 dropped the ball hard in a couple of pretty crucial places that sours the experience. I'm just not as much of a jaded moron.
Black Isle/Obsidian has their Fallout style, and Beth has theirs. I'm just now getting into the Obsidian stuff, but I know I'll come to love the games because I like the world setting and I like the way the Fallout games work as a baseline, even in the isometric titles. I can learn to adapt to how each developer structures their game without having an stroke over it. I don't forget how to have fun.
But you go ahead and stick with that "I only play mature Fallouts for mature gamers such as myself" mentality while everybody else moves on.
>>344617997
The premise of Fallout 1 is "What if the world turned out how people from the 50s thought it would." Throw in a bit of Mad Max, and some rpg conventions, and you get Fallout 1. Keep in mind, Fallout 1 was also a product of the 90s in which it was made. It's a satire of the Cold War, where Russia isn't a big deal anymore, China is. Communism isn't the big fear, resource scarcity is. The world doesn't end in some glorious war, it ends in confusion. It doesn't matter who started it, because the world was already falling apart.
Fallout 1 is also about optimism. It's a game that takes the visuals of Mad Max, the violence and the rapaciousness that it implies, and features mostly people trying to make the best of their lives. Shady Sands? A town of farmers. Junktown? A merchant town. The violent raiders aren't some giant horde, they're small groups of thugs on the outskirts.
It's also a game about testing its players. Despite people doing the best they can, it's still a rough world, and that's something that it takes from the cowboy movies. Violence is everywhere, and the game doesn't judge you for wallowing in the violence. It gives you the option to. The good thing isn't the easy thing. Acting like a hero will often get you killed. The first thing that the Brotherhood does is send you on a suicide mission.
That's why I don't think that anyone at Bethesda "gets" Fallout 1, and that's the important Fallout to understand. It takes all of the sarcastic window-dressing that Fallout 1 uses, takes it at face value, and dumbs down whatever moral complexity there was into giant neon good or evil buttons.
>building a settlement around an undetonated and leaking atom bomb
What did they mean by this?
>>344619019
I'm sorry I just can't have fun when I know how bad a game is, knowing that it could have been something amazing. I don't like the bethesda "style".
>>344617992
/v/ is not a hindmind you newfag. You are also not a Special Snowflake for liking something most people hate
>>344619451
Meant for
>>344617834
>>344618318
>>344619125
key phrase is :"What if the world turned out how people from the 50s thought it would."
like you said I also don't think anyone at Bethesda played Fallout, they took a franchise were the main theme is humanity "rebuilding" in some way after the world went to shit and twisted it into LE WACKY NUKE CATAPULT with a soundtrack that sounds like my grandpa's vinyl collection because muh 50's
>>344619451
>>344619532
Got it backwards, /v/ hates something most people love. Beth Fallouts are extremely popular.
>>344619125
The Fallout 4 music score pisses me off. It's heroic and triumphant. Not Fallout at all.
The original Fallout games quests didn't have you save people in need. It's being a helping hand. "I guess I could use an extra bodyguard for this brahmin caravan trip" "Could you go down to the cellar for me and see why something has slowed down?" Stuff like that. It seems boring but the supposed thing with Fallout is that things are never what they appear, and the people there are tough and don't need your help. They tell you to fuck off unless you want to get paid doing a job for them. They have their own shit to deal with.
Unlike Fallout 4 where literally everyone makes you their leader and you decide what happens but even though nothing really changes and your choices do not have consequences.
>>344619451
? What? I said /v/ doesn't hate everything.??
>>344619716
see
>>344619716
>>344619710
I meant to say "most people on /v/ hate" Point still stands
>>344619710
I think people on /v/ hate things that are bad.
>>344619810
Then you're contradicting yourself. If there's a general consensus a hivemind is most certainly formed, which is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqDFuzIQ4q4
>>344619912
>If people on /v/ agree on something then it's a hivemind
Lurk more
>>344619826
If you actually trust /v/'s judgement on anything, you're too far gone. These people think Platinum is a master dev that churn out solid gold.
I usually use /v/ as a gauge so that I can go the opposite way, except I know that despite their memes New Vegas is probably a genuinely good game. A broken clock is right twice a day.
>>344619912
>if people agree on something they form a hivemind
>>344620073
/v/ isn't one person. I personally don't like Platinum.
>>344619165
How did the bomb make such a fucking gigantic crater and it didn't even detonate?
How did the Children of the Atom go from three retards worshiping a nuke into a major east coast faction with a presence up and down the east coast?
And how are they immune to radiation?
>>344617834
No one on /v/ has ever claimed that NV is flawless.
Contrarian hipsters? Go fuck yourself, /v/ has had countless threads full of well reasoned arguments as to why NV is superior to Bethesda's Fallouts and as to why Bethesda's Fallouts completely miss the mark on what makes Fallout well Fallout.
>>344618318
>/v/ is incapable of accepting anything new
By that do you mean less choices, dumbed down rpg mechanics, crap writing? If so sure.
>>344620073
Except most of the people would Agree their last three games sucked ass (LoK, Transformers and TMNT)
>>344620307
>>344603553
dont do it, you'll end up dating a tranny
>>344620307
It's the same argument "If you cannot tolerate everything without batting an eye, you're as bad as SJWs"
>Can't accept anything new
Technically correct
HOWEVER
>New
all mechanics reduced as to get the lowest common denominator audience, story is fucking trash, survivalcraft because everyone does it.
>>344619165
>However, as a result of the town's expanse, raids by gangs and super mutants became prominent. Manya Vargas' father became rich on the caravan routes, and convinced the other settlers to construct their homes in the crater using aircraft debris and plane scrap from a nearby airport. Everything had been scavenged from the airport by other wastelanders and all that remained were the planes, which were used in the town's construction, and so the airport no longer remains.
>However, as a result of the town's expanse, raids by gangs and super mutants became prominent. Manya Vargas' father became rich on the caravan routes, and convinced the other settlers to construct their homes in the crater using aircraft debris and plane scrap from a nearby airport. Everything had been scavenged from the airport by other wastelanders and all that remained were the planes, which were used in the town's construction, and so the airport no longer remains.
>Megaton's construction was aided significantly by the Children of Atom, who had just began to worship the undetonated atomic bomb in the town center. The settlers were forced to leave the bomb unmoved in exchange for their much needed help.Megaton's construction was aided significantly by the Children of Atom, who had just began to worship the undetonated atomic bomb in the town center. The settlers were forced to leave the bomb unmoved in exchange for their much needed help.
>>344620249
It was onboard of a plane.
>>344611116
Good taste, anon. It's rare to find something I actually agree with on /v/
>>344620249
The bomb looks like a variation of the fat man, a bomb which needs to be dropped from a plane. Most likely dropped from a high altitude, so it created a crater that big.
The reason why it didn't detonate? Probably a faulty detonator.
>>344620249
It would only make sense if their followers were ghouls. Can't believe how Bethesda missed that.
>>344620659
>>344620842
A dud falling out of a plane onto dirt would not cause a fucking massive crater like that.
Keep in mind that distances are greatly distorted in the game - the crater is significantly bigger lengthwise than what it looks like in-game due to how the scaling and units work.
>>344621001
Bethesda believes ghouls are bad guys and they believe the player would rather kill everything than listen or read so by putting them together you end up just killing everything.
>>344620358
>browsing front page
>see LoK and think for a split second that he was talking about Legacy of Kain
>imagine a Soul Reaver remake by Platinum
>realize it will never happen
>>344603553
>Fallout 3 will soon be 10 years old
>>344621371
Dunno, on one hand you have the Tenpenny farce, on the other hand you have the ghoul city where they are portrayed more humanly than humans.
WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS
>>344603553
F3 is shit.
Utter shit.
Its a fps not a rpg.
Brakes with all lore.
No decisions to make.
Just pew pew pew all day long.
>>344621928
>Just pew pew pew all day long.
What if you do melee/unarmed?
>>344621741
nigga thats a cute snek
