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When will ZUN drop that xbox hueg side panel?
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When will ZUN drop that xbox hueg side panel?
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>>344575271
Don't count on it. An extended playfield would just make everything a lot more awkward.
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>>344575271
And what the fuck would he put there?
Have you ever played a vertical scrolling shooter with landscape orientation? It's fucking awful.
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>>344575271
You asking for pan & scan?
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>>344575817
Jamestown is pretty good
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>>344575817
>>344575694
Why?
I can't see how having a bigger screen would make anything worse as long as you keep it filled with bullets and shit.
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If the next game is a phantasmagoria, he won't need one.
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>>344576121
Because the game design philosophy would need to be completely changed. Either your movement speed would have to go way up so you can dart from side to side fast enough, or the enemy placement would need to linearly guide you around the screen making the game less dynamic and interesting.

Shmups just work better when the screen's length goes in the direction you're shooting, and switching that turns something into an entirely different game.
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>>344576121
There's no point to it considering you'll be using a small portion of the screen to dodge anyway. These are danmaku games, you see.
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>>344575271
Muh 3:4 arcade purity.
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>>344576482
>>344576528
But it looks so much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bE4NlzrLE
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>>344576758
>But it looks so much better
But it plays so much worse

80% of that screen is completely wasted space and it only works because all you're seeing is boss battles
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>>344576829
It could work well with smart enemy placement.
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>>344576758
Looks like butt, desu. The extra space is not take advantage of AT ALL which not only makes it pointless to have but would also make homing shottypes overpowered. Just hand around the side of the screen and evade the odd bullet or two.
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Just go play Mars Matrix, you fucking moron.
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>>344576975
Why are you so mad?
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>>344576975
>go play muh space shit
No.
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>>344576967
>or the enemy placement would need to linearly guide you around the screen making the game less dynamic and interesting.
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>>344577167
>shmups
>dynamic to begin with
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>>344576271
I hope not, phantasmagoria games are the fucking worst
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>>344577221
>backpedaling
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>>344577315
you can't backpedal in shmups either
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>>344577263
This to be quite desu.
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>>344577263
Weird, normally people chimp out when someone says something like that. I guess we're allowed to have that opinion now.
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>>344578048
Why would someone chimp out over a fact?
It's like people who think LoLK was good.
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>>344577263
>we will never get a new phantasmagoria with proper online netcode with client-side movement on your half of the screen

There's really no fucking excuse for server-side movement in a game that has you THIS separated from the other player, especially when stuff like fighting games and shooters manage to pull it off
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>>344577263
Get some taste you fucking bastard

>muh spellcards
>muh nonrandom patterns
>muh autismoidal repetition
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>>344578146
Can we not?
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>>344578261
>>>/tumblr/
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>>344578261
>muh feelings
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>>344578252
>tells me to get some taste
>proceeds to make an idiot of himself
Don't ever reply to me again.
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>>344578048
>>344578146

>>344578252
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>>344578146
Well, I did enjoy LoLK more than those
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What's the point of bringing back a character if you are not going to use it ever again?
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>>344578617
What's the point of making a character if you are not going to use it ever again?
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>>344578617
Just to remind all the fags who the REAL Best Girl is.
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>>344578617
you tell me
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>>344578795
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>344578795
chinese mooooooot
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>>344578964
ZUN realised that she was completely inferior to Ayayaya.
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>>344575271
You're a fucking idiot and the panel is meant to simulate a vertical shooter's screen orientation.
With a thread starting like this, I wonder if I should even bother reading the rest of it?
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>>344579219
"aya" more like "a-shit" lmao
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>>344579434
hatate? more like hagtatas lel
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>>344579401
Yup it's a fucking awful thread.
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>>344579401
>>344579625
>i'd rather bitch like a woman than shut up or try to make it better
Post your fucking scores.
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>>344579401
>>344579625
Good now go away you purist twat.
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>tfw musical notes danmaku
How do the fuck do they work? They are too fast and awkward to dodge.
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>>344576970
>>344576829
How retarded can you get? More space = more options = more possibilities for interesting gameplay
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>>344579940
>How do the fuck do they work?
They don't

I hate fighting Benben because of them, Yatsuhiro doesn't do that shit
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Who here getting DaiFukkatsu this fall?
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>>344579994
Not really, no. It's like increasing a platformer's screen size vertically.

>>344580151
Fuck off to your thread.
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>>344579762
What can I really do at this point, anon? It's not like I'm some genie who can bring back better threads.

Like take for example those PoFV hating anons. Sure, I could try to argue against them, but I know that the response will either be.
>incoherent and inane reasoning that have no logical basis
or
>lol you're just mad because we're not circlejerking your opinion.
I really don't want another LoLK "debate"

>>344579802
Honestly I don't even mind things like waifuposting or whatever.
It's just obnoxious baiting and memes that are awful.
Sometimes I wonder if these threads would be better if they had no gameplay discussion? I hate the though even popping up in my mind, but I can't help it.
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>>344576758
>kanako doesn't even have her own phase
what a shit game
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>>344580382
>Sure, I could try to argue against them, but I know that the response will either be.
>im not going to argue against them because strawman lol
You do seem like a circlejerker, I must say.
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>>344580680
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
I can't argue jack shit with you guys because that's the sort of response I will get.
It's like you guys don't even want to talk about Touhou, you just want to shout opinions and feel important.
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>>344580973
>boo hoo the other kids wunt agree with my opinion
Grow some balls, stop metaposting and maybe, just "maybe" you could start enjoying these threads.
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>>344580973
>I can't argue jack shit with you guys because that's the sort of response I will get.
Ever bothered actually trying instead of complaining that you can't?
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Alright let's try that. Can we talk about LoLK?
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>>344581407
Sure what do you want to talk about?
The failed experimental mechanic?
The horrible memetic wacky cast?
The preety good OST?
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>>344581407
Let's talk about how this little shit was clearly designed for Pointdevice play and the fact that she isn't changed at all when playing on Legacy is total bullshit. Junko's nonspells too.
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>>344581575
Junko's final is anti-fun incarnate
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>>344581524
>memetic
Can someone actually explain what the fuck does that mean without buzzwords?
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>>344581812
A character designed around a national symbol.
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>>344581242
>Look how high and mighty I am.

>>344581251
Yes I have.
There's a reason I bring up LoLK.

>>344581407
I would love to but I'm sure someone will spout on about memes if we do.
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>>344581660
I don't see what's so bad about it.
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How would you fix ULiL?
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>>344582524
Better netplay.
Better shield pressure I guess?
Bring back Marisa's old j5a
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>>344581407
+Very cute cast (Clowpy, Hecatia and Doremy are very cute)
+Very good OST (all of stage 4)
+Hard
-PointDevice is and insanity test to the point where is better to just play Legacy Mode until you can clear the game
-Can't save replays o PD
my 2 cents
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>>344582524
I can't fix what's not broken.

But yeah, better netcode. Sanae would have been pretty cool too.
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>>344582703
PD is good for learning Legacy, imo.
It makes it a lot easier.
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>>344575271
Is there a reason the game window can't be the size of the playing field so you can take off the side panel?
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>>344582703
>-PointDevice is and insanity test to the point where is better to just play Legacy Mode until you can clear the game
What? How?
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>>344582843
Which is why I don't like the fact that you can't get the replay
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>>344582929
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
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>>344582896
You mean like this?
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>>344582703
>(Clowpy, Hecatia and Doremy are very cute)
You forgot the only good Lunarian.
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>>344578617
A lot of Touhou characters are rather expendable but it was odd for Yuuka to escape PC98 hell. I wonder why her of all people? Was she particularly popular? I also know she appeared in Seihou or something, I wonder if that's related?
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>>344583096
Raisin?
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>>344583096
>notSephiroth
>good
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>>344583178
Maybe Zun just like her a lot. Simple.
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>>344580151
What's it like? Never played a DonPachi before. I'm bad at danmaku games but I still like playing them, but as long as it's not impossible-hard then it's all good.
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>>344583178
I assume she was one of ZUN's favorites.
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>>344583225
>Reisen
>Lunarian
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>>344583096
nah, but I did forget about Junko
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>oh nice a lunatic 2hu stream
>weebshit playing over the game's music
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>>344581407
I like the pointdevice thing and I hope other Touhou games have it. You can't deny that a lot of Touhou fans don't play the games, danmaku games scare off people the same way fighting games too. It's too intimidating. At least this way, people can eventually brute force their way through the game without having to replay the entire game over and over.

Sure, it might be casual or whatever but who cares? It lets people play the game and finish it and the normal way of doing it is still there for the hardcore players aren't affected. It's fine isn't it?
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>>344583338
Fuck off to your thread.
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>>344583225
>Reisen
>Lunarian
Nigga...
>>344583249
>>344583503
Come on, Sagugu is super cute. And she's the only Lunarian who's not above requesting help from Earthlings.
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>>344583503
Is it legal for someone to be this cute?
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>>344583036
Pretty much, yeah. As long as you can get all the info like points and bombs on the screen it's fine right?
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>>344583637
She's not even the best Amanojaku
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>>344583706
Junko isn't cute. She's pretty.
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>>344583554
Well you know, listening to the game's soundtrack for 300 hours does get stale.
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>>344583338
It's the worst DDP, it has a lot of screen clearing and there's no power buildup system or anything.
Emulate Daioujou if you want to play some doodoopatchies, use shmupmame
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>>344578617
What's the point of making a character if you are not going to use her ever?

Poor Satsuki.
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>>344583592
Except it doesn't make a difference either way because if someone wants their immediate gratification rather than putting in effort, it doesn't matter if the next hit takes them back to the title screen or to the beginning of the pattern for the 200th time - they'll be discouraged and put off all the same.

>>344583949
>being a casual
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>>344583804
>Seija
>LoLK character
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>>344584038
>he doesn't know the secret character cheat code that's in every game
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>>344583554
>listen to a remix
>song gets horribly butchered to fit some lyrics in

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
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>>344584009
Oh sure, but it's less offputting having to do the same 10 seconds rather than 10 minutes if you game over and need to start all over again.
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>>344584038
>You
>Reading comprehension
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>>344584009
I'm not sure who you're quoting. What does the game OST have to do with being a casual?
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>>344579994
>More space = more options = more possibilities for interesting gameplay
Only in theory, but for a vertical curtain fire shooter? Not in practice.
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>>344584194
>(You)
>following the conversation
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>>344583930
What if I think she's both?
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>>344584328
>(You)
>Having good taste
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The playfield's compressed so that it's easier to track the whole pattern at once. If it was larger, you'd have to move your eyes around to see where stuff is going, and that could get you killed.
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>>344584427
So shmupfags are a bunch of casual babies
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Quality thread.
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>>344584230
I was just implying that getting tired of Touhou's music meant you were a casual. You know, as a joke, because that doesn't make any sense.

To give you a proper reply, I don't agree with you. Personally I never got tired of listening to the same songs over and over again and hell, I actually do worse in the games if I were to mute it or replace it with something else. But I guess this is something that varies from person to person.
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>>344575817
Go play Mars Matrix
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>>344584518
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>>344584172
>he doesn't like vocal mixes
but vocals are so awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3goTkOZDK9M
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>>344584720
QUALITY
U
A
L
I
T
Y
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>>344584720
Ferocious.
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>>344584783
>but vocals are so awesome
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>>344584607
Okay then, fair enough.

I'm one of those people that can't listen to the same thing too much or I'll go crazy. I like the original Touhou music that ZUN makes but in moderation.
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>>344584783
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>>344584783
Not him but no.
The moment vocals are added to any touhou song or any song at all is the moment it gets ruined.
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>>344584783
Y.you too.
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>>344577408
>playing at the absolute bottom of the screen at all times
spotted the shitter
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>>344583635
>>344580205
>actually being this buttmad
What's your favorite arcade shmup, /v/?
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>>344584783
That's not a mix though.
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>>344585531
>abusing safespots
git gud senpai
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>>344585681
Fuck off to your thread.
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>>344584783
>Vocals
>ENGLISH Vocals
>Set to in-game music
Fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_h2vQyzJY
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>>344585014
I think listening to the same tracks repeatedly, especially if they had vocals in them, drove me crazy when playing Xenoblade Chronicles X. Holy shit, running around the city while UWWOOO UWOOO I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN'T SEE YOU plays on repeat will drive anyone insane.
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>>344585898
I haven't played XCX. Do they at least dampen the vocals, or did they go full-retard and make it play at normal volume?
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>>344584963
>>344585034
>>344585124
>>344585170
>>344585710
>>344585829
ze~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiWOMXmf75Y
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>>344584783
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>>344585681
Strikers 1945 II
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>>344586119
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>>344585681
Darius Gaiden a best
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>>344585829
>pitting Shibayan against English-speaking artists
No fair. Try German.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWftdMMzdpU
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>>344586119
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>>344586119
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>>344586261
YOU'RE MINCE MEAT
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>>344585124
That's where you're wrong kiddo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1mH-YBwgEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3P8CJkwMTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0jb3Ld8bF8
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>>344586487
>linking Clappy's theme arrange
>not WERNING WERNING
Are you even trying to shitpost?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgISzVQVBvg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5TPJFcFP70&feature=youtu.be

Go away /mu/ and stay go.
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>>344586357
Stop already they are fucking terrible
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>>344586434
GO HOME TO MOMMY
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>>344586357
It sounds like a song from Drakengard 3. I like it.
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>>344586487
These are all bad though.

>>344586261
>>344586410
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>>344586061
Vocals of songs seem like the same volume as the music to me.
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>>344586119
I can't remember the last time I closed a youtube video this fast, Jesus Christ
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>>344585124
Says you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0RxFOAsFig
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Don't mind me, just posting the best arrange of recent months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eu7_dM4eEM
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>>344586289
I love psikyo games but they emulate with so much fucking input lag that I can't play them, they're the type of game where responsive inputs really really matter.
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>>344586839
I don't care for your shitty music but thanks for the pic
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>>344586916
Strikers 1945 plays just fine on my mame senpai.
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>>344586839

I think Hecatia is the only good thing out of that game.

Like, holy shit I can't remember anything else from that game except there's a lewd belly touhou as a first or second boss.
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>>344586670
>>344586726
>Saying eurobeat is bad for the sake of looking cultured due to a contrarian opinion
Wipe this meme from the face of the earth.
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>>344587003
Have you ever played on a real cab? If you do, it'll be night and day. Some games just don't emulate very responsively (even in shmupmame) and psikyos tend to be the worst offenders. Unfortunately Garegga is almost as bad too
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>>344587052
Second
But she is pretty shitty, only decent pic so far is this one
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>>344577062
>complaining about space
I can understanding not liking military or WWII shit, but space? Ur a faggot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBnq11Jq6xY

Easily my favorite vocal.
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>>344586938
Everything that man draws feels implausibly soft to me.
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>>>/jp/
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>>344587172
I'm not being contrarian, it's just bad.
You are a faggot for not accepting that not everyone shares your shit taste though
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>Unironically posting vocals
Oh shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XNytZEAfwA
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>>344587342
Whoops wrong quote.
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>>344587195
That artist is so good.

Our Crown Prince is an awesome Crown Prince.
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>>344587394
Nah, you are being a contrarian. Both of those songs are excellent, you just want to seem cultured by saying everything is shit. That's how it works. Rather than praise things you like, you just shit on everything, so that way you can never be wrong.
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>>344587240
>IRL name is Darius
>japanese people on HelloTalk ask me if I was named after the videogame

T-Thanks Toyota ...
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anyone but me can't get enough of 3L vocals?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0IU1lrZPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gkREQBvw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8n-h7sIjvc
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>>344587717
>literally cannot accept that other people can dislike it
I have a friend irl like you, he's a faggot and probably so you are
Also
>you just want to seem cultured by saying everything is shit
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Whens the next game. I'm burned out already
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/mu/ pls go and stay go

>>344588069
Next year.
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>>344587701
Indeed, I pretty much saved every pic
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>>344575271
rotate your screen idiot
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>>344587976
Alright.

Name some things you dislike about the songs. And don't just describe eurobeat as a genre.

Go ahead.

You can't do it.
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>>344588198
Awooo!
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Guess I will also post something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpPjbsNlvNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVyiveXELDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrzJVp_A12M
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>>344588289
Like I said I don't like vocals on songs that previously doesn't have them.
Right now I'm listening to LoLK ost
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>>344588423
Can you stop now?
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>>344576758
>stage 1 boss
>stage 1 boss
>stage 1 boss
>stage 2 boss
>stage 1 boss
Consider my autism triggered
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>>344584629
came here to post this
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>>344587976
Why are you befriended with faggots anon?
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>>344588526
No chance. Posting best LoLK.
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>>344587763

at least you're not asked if you were named after the meme of legends champion
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>>344588729
T-That's what western people ask me ...
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Finally cleared my Lunatic Pointdevice no bomb some days ago. Can I please get some (You)s, because I didn't feel too satisfied, probably because the last spell alone took me 2035 attempts.
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>>344588485
>Like I said I don't like vocals on songs that previously doesn't have them.
>We-well it's got talking!
real connoisseur over here.
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Anyone want some PLATES?
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>>344588707
Just stop.
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>>344588875
Send me your replay bro
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>>344588289
>Most songs are half a song played twice to create the illusion of length
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>>344588875
>2035
Is it normal to have that much?
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>>344588953
Post Sukusuku abuse.
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>>344588875
(You) coming right up. Congrats.
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>>344588875
>2035
jesus christ
did you play it for 2 days straight or what
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>>344589247
You can stop too.
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>>344585124
I agree. No truly good song can have the foul howls of 3D banshees in them.
*tips clown hat*
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>>344588871

damn man, my condolences
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>>344587172
>>344588289
Please, desist from posting lewd pictures of Ran Yakumo
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>>344589247
>Sukusuku abuse
Is this really a thing?
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>>344588471
these are bretty gud, thanks for sharing
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>>344589608
No.
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>>344589247
Fuck off
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>>344589021
No replays in Pointdevice. But I recorded the spell myself!
https://my.mixtape.moe/feskbj.webm

>>344589226
>>344589365
Took me something like two weeks, with 1 hour or so of practice each day. I'm sure I could've done better.

>>344589304
Thanks peeps.
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>>344589608
Yes
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>>344589753
Oh yeah, and the entire game took me around 3000 retries, so two third of those were on the last 40 seconds of the game. That's how stupid the last spell is.
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>>344589608
Of course not who would do such a thing?
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>>344589753
Fucking impressive.
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>>344589753
>the last two phases
holy shit what
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>>344590350
Pure, pure, PURE!

Junko is PURE bullshit!
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>>344590350
Ye. During stage one you can legit stay still with a bit of luck, and during stage you want to start actually looking at the screen.
But then stage three comes and it gets hard as shit out of the blue. The fourth phase doesn't raise the difficulty as much, but the restricted space makes it a bit more confused and prone to RNG.
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What position would you say ZUN would have in a rank of the most famous japanese people (worldwide)?
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You fucks need some decent vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0a1sPAWjDg&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZxttE-V1ok&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRKJjd4_Fpc&feature=youtu.be
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>>344588875
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>>344590729
Pretty fucking low.
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>>344576758
>kaguya's "spell card"
kek
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>>344590890
Is that your honest answer really?
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>>344590838
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>>344590838
I forgot to snapshot the moment in-game, and so I had to snapshot the thing in my external recording.
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>>344591013
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>>344590890
Who else is there? Akira Kurosawa, Hideo Kojima...?
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>>344590940
Game designers aren't famous people anon. Although he has 200k on twitter.
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>>344583178
She fit with the flower theme of PoFV
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>>344580382
>>344580973
It's called "not listening to /v/ because /v/ has shit taste"
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>>344591189
>>344591296
i know you're late but do you HAVE to reply to every single post you missed

why not talk about what we're currently talking about
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>>344591449
your new is showing
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>>344591449
How the hell could you tell that it was the same person?
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>>344591449
autism
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>>344576482
Mars Matrix was 4:3 and it played fine.
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>>344577062
>touhou fag complaining about space
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>>344592302
You know what else was 4:3? FUCK OFF TO YOUR THREAD
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>>344592508
>Shmups just work better when the screen's length goes in the direction you're shooting, and switching that turns something into an entirely different game.

>Mars Matrix was 4:3 and it played fine.
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Who's the best Touhou?
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>>344592745
Anyone but Marisa
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>>344592745
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>>344592745
The one and only.
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>>344589567
How do you tip it?
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>>344592776
Why do you hate Marisa, Reimuanon?
Marisafags and Reimufags should be friends.
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>>344593163
I don't hate marisa.
I hate marisafags.
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>>344592745
Satorin~
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>>344592745
Why did Marisa sound like a fucking shota in every fanime?
Yuyuko btw
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how do i do pofv/soku/ulil netplay between two computers in the same room?
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>>344592508
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didn't ZUN said that when he has no ideas, he makes a new character?
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>>344593806
Because people aren't creative?

>>344593376
Rude.
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>>344594208
no
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>>344594260
I remember it being on some youtube interview.
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>>344594363
then why are you asking
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>>344592745
Best touhou, best girl, best waifu
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>>344594460
>furry
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>>344594451
I just want to talk about touhou.
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>>344594546
you dont know what furry is
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>>344594605
>he is in denial
lol
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>>344594460
>nerd
>no friends
>slave to a nasty hag
It's shit
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>>344594546
wat
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>>344594460
But anon, best waifu is whoever you love the most
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>>344592745
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>>344594663
So you're not actually looking for discussion. Fuck off.
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