>ESL One Cologne 2016 only peaked at 850k viewers
>the previous major, MLG Columbus, peaked at over 1.6 million viewers
Does this mean that esports shit is dying? Can Valve just move on to making actual games already?
>>344574226
The most interested I have ever been for a Esport is Rocket League finals that played earlier today.
Shit was hype.
>>344574226
csgo esports was always about people idling in stream for drops, gambling, and matchfixing
bad casting
no major upsets
Skin economy is a shitshow, waning interest in idling for cases
Overwatch
>>344574512
None of that.
Tons of major players on all the biggest name teams revealed to be cheaters in last year
thats all it is.
>>344574226
Man this game is full of corruption and shit
first it was the rampant cheaters, then it was cheaters again, and now its the huge gambling problem
>>344574226
A shit viewer that only watched one guy and bad timing for the US (Started while your average person was working)
>>344574612
I love how many competitive CSGO and TF2 players blatantly aimbot in tournaments. Nobody gives a shit, it's like watching a video from some third world country where a disaster happens and everybody just keeps walking since it's the norm for them.
>>344574226
you now need sms verification to use the steam market and you manually have to ok every single listing in an app on your smartphone
as a result many people don't use the market anymore
and therefore less people idle for skins since they're worthless for them now
>>344574612
yeah this. nip and fnatic made such asses out of themselves a lot of people stopped caring. i know i did.
>>344574226
>>344574512
>>344574612
>>344574619
>>344574876
You're all retards
Its the different timezones that caused the drop in viewership
>>344575151
this hasn't harmed previous european tournaments
>>344574512
>bad casting
Are you serious?
>No major upsets
Liquid beat Fnatic and Na'Vi, as well aas Flipside beating NiP.
>>344574876
> sms verification
In my world travles I've always wondered what does sms mean?
>>344574612
>tons
Name five
Are BRs still dominating the scene?
>>344574872
>someone who is bad at videogames
>>344575314
short message system you neanderthal
>is esports waning
how is it that /v/ is so incredibly detached from reality
>>344575314
Semen masking system
Little baby men in submarines carry your data underwater
>>344575517
Oh you mean text message.
>>344575568
We killed TOR, we killed Overwatch, now we will kill esports
>>344574226
Esports are the future.
>>344575320
anon i don't watch cs go and to anyone who has just barely marginal interest like me, "more than one in a short period" is the same as 5,000
it's shown everyone that cs go pro organizations and tournaments cannot be trusted, because how could an organization POSSIBLY not know their own player was cheating?
truth is nobody gives a fuck about the abortion that is CSGO or the duders who fucking play it (((professionally)))
>>344575794
Autists on /v/ do. I regularly see people with 1k+ hours in it. They're usually 14 year olds with mop tops though.
>>344575779
As someone who does watch it, there has only been one player of the big name teams convicted of cheating in my time watching it. KQLY from Titan
>>344576007
>convicted
nobody cares if they're "convicted" of cheating or not anon, you can tell when they're cheating.
>>344575794
This. The only reason the e-sports scene launched so well with GO was because you could get a weapon case worth $50 just for "watching", and by watching I mean opening the steam and then going AFK. Alternatively, people were using betting sites to make money off skins, but the phone shit alienated a large portion of the gambling audience.
>>344576003
>people like something I don't
AUTISM
>people enjoy getting good at things
AUTISM
Why do you fuckers feel the constant need to attack people who don't have the same taste as you. If anything THAT is autistic.
>>344576169
>>344576095
You don't watch it so how could you tell?
All of those witch hunts are perpetuated by losers who don't know anything about the game.
>>344576201If you didn't care you would have never posted this [\spoiler]
>>344576437maybe im just trying to publicly shame you for being a contrarian fag
>>344576553
Just because somebody digresses with you doesn't make them contrarian. Fuck off with your meme words if you don't know how to use them.
>>344574226
did they have crates this time that dropped?
>>344576781
Yes, they do every major.
>>344576728
if the majority of the opinions here are that its shit you are being contrarian by picking at their opinion therefore it is wise of you to just fuck off and not even post.
>>344576728
>uses digresses instead of disagrees
>calls contrarian a meme word
>in {current year}
>ishygddt
>>344576275
>You don't watch it so how could you tell?
probably because i've been playing fps since 1993, watched the first aimbot come out for quake, and played cs since beta 5. of the mod.
aimbotting etc is blindingly obvious, and someone doesn't need to have my experience to instantly recognize it, though i can say with a surety that they can't.
I probably have thousands more hours in scores of FPS games than you. Yes, I can tell.
>>344576987
Autocorrect
>>344576897
That's not what contrarian means, dummy. If I picked my opinion because the majority consensus was the opposite then I'd be contrarian. But it's my opinion; independent from yours.
90% of the viewers are afk just trying to get a cobble drop, so there will always be a lot of viewers
>>344577187
exactly since its different you should just fuck off and stop posting you contrarian fag
CS GO was a bubble
CS has always been popular but the esports boom only happened because of hats
>>344576169
No. CSGO is quite literally the worst fps ever made.
>>344577149
>I can tell
okay
You must have not ever been very good then. I'm not that good and I make plays that look like your "obvious aimbot" all the time. I've only seen 5 to 10 sketchy pro moments at most.
>>344577318
>the esports boom only happened because of hats
err the esports boom happened because of mobas. pro dota is about 30,000 times more important than pro cs
>>344574226
>Does this mean that esports shit is dying?
We can hope so.
>>344574512
>no major upsets
definitely wrong there, most people expected liquid to get eliminated in groups but they made it to the finals, the real reason is a combination of blatant cheaters winning everything and a stagnant single elimination format
>>344577320
Check the >5$ section of steam I'm sure you'll find worse. Hyperbole makes you look stupid.
>>344577258
>every opinion that differs from mine is contrarian
Kek
I was watching agdq instead, fuck you valve I watched every tournament and I haven't gotten a single fucking case
>>344574512
overwatch gets 1/10th the viewers of CSGO famalam, if its lucky
>>344577428
the esports boom for counter strike I mean
>>344577370
Not him but that's as bit of a fucking reach anon considering he didn't provide any examples, you're projecting so hard here
It's actually quite telling that you seem to have made an assumption that you know what moments he's referring to while also at the same time claiming you never see any such moments
>>344577496
I'd actually rather play them. At least they're not trying to pass off as being good. Playing CSGO makes you look stupid.
>>344577258
Or I could keep posting so you make yourself look like even more of an idiot :) With more statements like this it shouldn't be too hard.
>>344577513
if you dont fuck off imma ice you fool
>>344574226
It dropped because of trade holds on all Valve market items. I guarantee that the numbers were inflated by Russian bots watching the streams trying to get drops.
Now that it takes 15 days to put things on the market place people dont give a fuck about souvenirs anymore.
>>344577595
people are PLAYING overwatch, not watching it
>>344575225
yes bad casting. the observers were so bad they missed the T set ups and most of the kills. bad observing AND bad casting you floof.
>>344577661
fucking csgo reddit army in here
>>344577680
Anyone who is tech-literate enough to set up bots surely can spend 20 seconds to set up a mobile authentication emulator on PC.
>>344574226
people realise that top teams are hacking
even thoorin made a video of players hacking on lans
>>344577595
yeah we're talking about a game that is fun to play, not just watch, you nob.
>>344577617
>claiming to never have seen
Lol wut
Everyone in the scene knows "those moments", but that anon was saying that pros blatantly aimbot. Which in my mind means they press their aimkey for 2/3rds of their kills. Which is just ridiculously stupid.
>>344577370
>I'm not that good and I make plays that look like your "obvious aimbot" all the time
no, you don't. you're also confused if you think aimbotters are usually revealed by kills/shooting and engagements.
>>344574512
>Overwatch
HA!
>>344577187
>autocorrect
when will phone posting be banned? these subhumans contribute LITERALLY nothing to any discussion
>>344574226
I skipped this one despite watching most of the previous ones.
>On during SGDQ
>Bad time zone for me
>Also watching TDF
eh
>>344577149
>oldanon with his old eyes and cataracts can spot a current year aimbot instantly.
I'm inspired. get lost.
>>344577905
>in my mind means they press their aimkey for 2/3rds of their kills
thanks for proving that you have no knowledge of hacks, now please stop talking about it
>>344577796
yes, only 20 seconds to get all the top level SMS numbers you need, for free!
>>344577772
Observing I 100 percent agree with. Worst I've ever seen. Casting I really don't. Anders/Semmler are great as always and HenryG/James were great in this tourney. Pansy sucks though.
>>344574512
>Overwatch
>>344577779
Never been on reddit.
>everything I don't like is reddit
Damn dude
I can't watch this shit anymore too little gameplay, too much of those retarded analysts talking shit for too long.
>>344578015
>pros have been overwatch banned for cheating
>get their bans appealed because they're special snowflakes
>he actually thinks the comp scene isn't just a mess with toggling
>>344578015
Nigger I know what most people talk about when they think pros cheating. Pressing an aimkey to "feel" the enemies through walls. But that anons wording doesn't imply that at all. This IS /v/ though so maybe I should always adjust for intense hyperbole.
>>344577595
there hasn't been a huge overwatch major so far, even then csgo is still far ahead OW with the esports thing
>>344578215
>i don't understand the post but i'll keep on posting anyway
I never said toggling wasn't an issue but obv reading comprehension is something you lack so I understand why you would get confused
in future, take a deep breath before you click that submit button. re-read what you posted and really think, "should i even bother"
>>344577927
>no, you don't
G O O D A R G U M E N T
>Does this mean that esports shit is dying? Can Valve just move on to making actual games already?
Dota 2 is bigger than ever. Keep fucking dreaming.
Trade hold
Weird time zone
The 1st package to dream for becomes much cheaper due to cobble became one of the most played map and number of viewers has increased significantly in 2015/2016 compares to 2014.
>>344577940
What kind of autistic rage is this? Is this one of those normie memes? What a stupid sentiment you've made, anon,
>>344577601
get your shit together
There was a scandal last year about a cheat system that worked through Valve's steam workshop that subtly increased the users accuracy.
The only reason it was ever discovered was because one of the hackers in on it got banned for separate reasons and ratted everyone out.
There's millions of money to be won and video games are easy to cheat in
>>344574612
then why the last major, which was this year, still had over 1 million viewers?
speaking out of your ass there
>>344578854
It had over 1m viewers because box drops.
>>344578926
This one had box drops too.
do you have actual mental problems anon?
>>344579026
This one still only had as many viewers as it did because of box drops. People are just giving less of a fuck about it.
>>344577940
Anon what the fuck
It's 2016, even my fucking grandma have a smartphone
I surely didn't have it when I first posted here in 2009, but things change
>>344577676
U foken wot m8 i swer on mi nan ill hook you in da gabba you cheeki cunt now ur in a proper mess get ready for a proper rumble as i call on me home boys
>>344578431
>Everything has to be a neverending argument which neither side will ever concede
>instead of me just telling you how it is
you misunderstand.
>>344579574
>you misunderstand
HE KEEPS DOING IT
>>344574612
Who was outed? I haven't kept up.
>>344574226
its because nobody gives a fuck about ex-luminousity/now SK and their cheating scum domination team.
No one wants to watch some BRs cheat their way to the final
>>344579869
Nobody he's stupid lol
>>344574612
elaborate
i only remember some guy from fnatic got accused for cheating years ago, haven't kept up with csgo for a while now
