>demo is better than the actual game
name them?
Spore
Fuck...
Nioh
>/v/'s opinions
What a joke.
Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy
Sonic 06
>>344536262Silent Hills
>>344536262
Episode Duscae looks infinitely better than FFXV.
>>344536262Nioh will probably be this
>>344536262
I know you're memeing, but GZ legitimately felt more Metal Gear Solid.
>MGS4 is shit
>peace walker is shit
>metal gear solid rising fails so hard, they had to outsource it to platinum
>botch up ZoE3 development
>paid demo for MGSV is mediocre
>actual game is easily the worst MGS game
>still excited for kojihack's next project
WHY, /v/?
>>344538315
>>344538290
it did, but i loved them both a lot.
>>344538315
>actual game is easily the worst MGS game
agreed, metal gear solid 2 was such a piece of garbage.
Phantasy star online.
>>344538315
peace walker was great, ZoE3 was cancelled due to shit sales for the HD collection
>>344538368
you can't refute that
Mass Effect 3
Thief II demo level was better than the version in the full game.
>>344536262
Only narrative and mission-wise. The gameplay in the full game has much more tools. I can't argue that the listening to the tapes to find where paz was wasn't awesome and better than most things in Phantom Pain. If they had time they probably would have put that in the game but they fucked up. Still i'd rather have all the tools of TPP.
Undertale, all the fucking way.
>>344536262
Sonic '06
>>344538315
>peace walker is shithave to agree with your other points though
>Why
Money
>>344538749
I'd rather have the tight level design of GZ than all the useless shit you get in TPP.
>>344538564
>peace walker was great
For the PSP game catalog? Sure.
But since it was put as some main game, important in the series, let's compare to the others and see how "great" it is. Gameplay? Shallowest in the series. Stealth? Worst in the series. Map design? Mediocre. Boss fights? Bulletsponges with zero charm to them. Story, music and characters i won't even touch because that'll only spark subjective reasonings.
There's no greatness in Peace Walker, it's a mediocre MGS game.
>>344538749
>Only narrative and mission-wise. The gameplay in the full game has much more tools.
What a childish thing to say/ automatically shows one has no clue about game design
having more tools doesnt automatically mean the game is better, ground zeroes is amazing particularly because it decides where it throws you at the start of the mission and with what equipment, letting you scavenge the rest from the map
then in NG+ runs they let you pick up the weapons from the casings on the ground which again is infinitely superior to retarded deployment system shit
Fahrenheit
>>344538789
Came here to post this, what went so right?
>>344540108
Sound track was superior compared to anything in TPP as well.
Nothing in the proper game matches Camp Omega on full alert while you're extracting Paz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=494uunKrvLQ
>>344540976
>Sound track was superior compared to anything in TPP as well.
>doesn't talk about the first song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHAkMP02zY
"V Has Come To" is one of the best songs in the franchise.
Stranglehold
>>344541993
https://youtu.be/XKYM_jrTeaA?t=1m48s
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
>ground zeroes is great
>first level of V is amazing
>it's only downhill from there
What happened? I know people criticize konami for cutting act 3, but act 2 was already dull and repetitive.
>>344543976
Kojima tried to step away from MGS formula after 4. He failed.
>>344538315
>still excited for kojihack's next project
Honestly, everyone should be excited for it - even the people who think Kojima's a hack can say "whelp, Death Stranding sucked, that proves that Konami wasn't the reason MGSV turned out like ass."
Bravely Default
THPS
>>344536262
Alone in the dark PS3
I felt tricked
Colonial marines E3 demo
>>344540108
>letting you scavenge the rest from the map
Except theres no point in ever scavenging for anything except for a sniper rifle in the Eye and Finger mission
That approach would have worked out great if the GZ map wasnt so small and the missions all werent so short and easy
>>344536262
brutal legend
>>344536262
>>344536262
Anything ubisoft made
bravely default
>>344547642
>That approach would have worked out great if the GZ map wasnt so small
fuck off retard, go play TPP
the suppressed SMG's, rocket launchers and C4's and smoke grenades were extremely useful depending on the mission
>>344538373
literally how do you play ground zeroes for 77 hours
I loved Ground Zeroes. Downloaded it to PS3 at first but didn't like the framerate so I bought a PS4 with that game. Made me really hype for TPP.
When TPP arrived I had fun for a couple 80 hours but when the ending came it just felt wrong. Then again, ME3 left me with the same feeling. And now, 10 months later, I've started playing TPP again on PC and taking the game for what it is (great gameplay, not so great MG-story) it's a damn good game. But I still like the feeling I got from GZ more.
>>344536262
MGS2
If kojimbles was dead set on having TPP be open world, they should have scrapped Africa and set the whole thing in Afghanistan.
>>344549540
He started it and went to sleep for 3 days.
