>Game is already dead online
What went wrong?
>>344534782
343 Industries
it's far from dead online
>>344534782
>most active users in one month since Halo 3
Yeah OP, totally dead
>>344534782
I don't play the game, I don't even have an Xbox One...but I'm pretty sure I read past week that Halo 5 had more active players than Halo 3 at it's peak.
>>344534782
no is not, stop trying to start rumors faggot
http://www.inquisitr.com/3287010/halo-5-player-count-increasing-monthly-highest-since-halo-3/
>>344534782
An innocent thread died so that you could post this shit.
>>344534782
The xbone
Not enough orange and blue.
>>344534782
Its confirmed to be the most active Halo in ages
If you want something hyped and then had no legs, see anything made by Sony
>>344534782
If they want H3 numbers of players again they need to take out smartscope ADS and perhaps even sprint, or nerf sprint even more so like when you're getting shot you can't sprint simply. Heard already that they're ditching smartscope ADS for Halo 6, all they have to do now is nerf sprint more.
It's not dead
also the singleplayer is shit but the multi is better then halo 4 from what i've heard
>>344534782
no split-screen, so lots of people who previously bought Halo games skipped it, campaign sucked, graphics sucked
>>344542224
Graphics look real during some parts. Graphics/60 Fps aren't the problem. The mechanics are, Ads and sprint.
>>344540174
Stop lying. This game can barely even scratch the top 10 on XBL..
>>344542383
reality disagrees with you
>>344542331
>Graphics look real during some parts
oh come on
>>344534782
The series is dead, that's why.
The only good thing in the game is Forge.
It's the worst selling Halo and they don't show the number of online players when you search for a match.
Worst maps in the series/10
>>344542675
Those aren't bad graphics. I looked up to the sun in multiplayer and it literally looked like the spartan was real. If you're talking about the texture dip that occurs when loading the game and stuff that's to run the game at 60 fps. But the graphics when that isn't happening, which is most of the time, are really good.
>>344543054
>graphics most of the time, are really good.
Not really, Halo 4 in the MCC looks better and it's also 60fps
>>344534782
WE!
>>344543502
No H5's are a bit better than H4s. But that's true about the resolution not dipping sometimes for H4.
All the maps are very similar and remarkably indistinct, much like Halo 4.
343 is obsessed with the Forerunner and NuNSC aesthetics, both of which are very ugly.
Too many random boxes and barrels, not enough expansive outdoors areas.
>>344536979
Yeah, I don't trust this until they actually release some way for the players to see the numbers. Every other halo game has had some way to check the population, but they have hid this in Halo 5. Check the forums out and you'll see evidence that this game is still one of the worst population wise. I know Halotracker has a way to keep track of those who play ranked, and that number was ~60k before firefight came out, which of course is going to inflate the population. For the greatest selling halo of all time this is not good for being less than a year since release.
This article also praises the "free" dlc which comes with staples of the series that were just missing on release. Basically, there is nothing of substance here other than 343 saying "no trust us, our game is really popular!" and the author going "free dlc for an incomplete game is such a good idea."
Halo 5 is the worst halo game ever made. The population spikes with the release of content then quickly dies down again. Furthermore, with this being on the Xbox one, the numbers for stats tracked are quite inflated due to players having numerous accounts. It's not uncommon for a single player to have 2-3 accounts, so take that as you will.
>>344544367
No BTB maps made by the studio. They better add some
>>344541903
>If they want H3 numbers of players again they need to take out smartscope ADS and perhaps even sprint
that wouldn't help much if at all. nothing the devs could do (certainly not anything you'd want them to) would help Halo become the king of console FPSes again.
Halo was a big fish in a little pond before, now it's a moderately smaller fish in a lake
>>344543970
>No H5's are a bit better than H4s
They really aren't any better, they're about the same but often lower resolution.
>>344544554
5's UI design is miles better.
>that odd feeling when you really enjoyed the movement mechanics and aim down the sights they added to the game even though you were sure you wouldn't
>>344544479
Yep, that's Halo 5 on a current-gen console. Native rendering resolution ranges from 720p to very rarely, 1080p.
>>344544479
>>344544554
Apparently H4 has dips too according to this anon. And no, H4s graphics are good but you can tell H5 is a next-gen game with better graphics compared to it.
>>344544867
Halo 4's resolution never drops below 1080p, Halo 5's graphics I said are about the same, but they're often lower resolution.
While I don't like the game myself I doubt its dead since its free to play for the next week if you have gold.
>>344544975
Resolution doesn't mean graphics. The graphics themselves are better. 720p to 1080p doesn't change the graphics, just the resolution.
This first pic looks better than the next one:
>>344544739
>>344544554
>>344544975
not him but the animations are absolutely pathetic in halo 5. as soon as a character is more than ten feet away, their animation drops to like 10fps. it's ridiculous. it's not a pretty game. h2 looks much nicer. shame the mcc never worked and never will.
>what went wrong?
half the game (warzone) is complete garbage. it's like they saw battlefields success and said hey, we need a large scale mode.' it's probably the worst mode i've played in a fps, ever. and the field of view is absolutely insane. it's more narrow than other console fps and and the gun models take up, like, a quarter of the screen.
and where the fuck is oddball? STILL not there.
>>344545297
Halo 5 does not look good at all, if the graphics are better they are only marginally so, because the game is usually half the resolution
>>344544547
Who knows? No sprint/ADS was Halo 3's formula and if MCC weren't broken it might have kept a huge playerbase, for mostly old games as well.
>>344545506
Halo games aside from 4 have never really pushed the boundaries of a console. Halo 2 looked like muddy shit.
>>344545523
>graphics don't look good at all
>marginally better than H4's.
Well, you said it yourself. Just replace marginally with noticeably.
>>344534782
nigger
>>344545669
i was talking about the remaster, obviously, because the next sentence mentioned mcc. h2a looks way better than h5
>>344545876
I said IF the graphics are better, I don't think they are at all. Any advantage it has is lost by reducing the pixel count by 50%.
>>344546040
The best part of H2A is switching in real-time to see the difference
>>344546875
Will we ever see a female sangheili in game?
>>344544453
>Yeah, I don't trust this until they actually release some way for the players to see the numbers.
So you immediately assume the numbers are grossly wrong and the game has no players online.
This is some pointless bullshit and you need to stop posting.
>>344544554
>Reach will never get the HD treatment
Just die in my sleep already.
>>344547326
Reach should be properly forgotten.
>>344547413
>The best game in the series should be forgotten
Nice try, 343.
>>344547469
>best game
Nice try, Bungie.
>>344547648
>implying it isn't.
>Playing a Halo game after Bungie ended the series with Reach
Why? It's literally shit. 343 don't have a fucking clue about what they are doing with the gameplay or the universe. They had ONE job; keep making Halo. They managed to fuck that up.
Seriously, why aren't we seeing human and sangheili relations in these games beyond that shit with Locke?
Where's my alien species working together on shared colonies?
Since we're having a Halo thread, what do you guys think of this series? It's what ultimately got me to buy an Xbone and MCC, as this was my introduction to the series.
>>344547964
I like Halo but I think 4 and 5 are the worst games in the series.
>>344547760
You've already outed yourself, Sage. You can leave now.
>>344548048
Does anyone ever know what you're talking about?
Reach had the best campaign, the best graphics and the best multiplayer (specially firefight). Do not mind.
I heard this one got one of the best multiplayers out there. Even then, I believe it still has its flaws, right?
So it's pretty much established that Halo 5 has the best multiplayer, right?
>>344548176
Its Firefight was a straight downgrade from ODST's.
>>344548432
You haven't played either, shut your trap.
>>344548423
Not the best, but easily better than anything we've gotten in the past decade. 3babbies and reachtards need not apply.
>>344548423
>So it's pretty much established
By idiots who never played the bungie games, sure.
>>344534782
they were too retarded not to release it on PC
>>344547964
What? Where were you in 2007 when the halo franchise peaked? You must be ~13 years old.
>>344534782
No?
>>344534782
>dead online
This is the best halo multiplayer since halo 3. Im still playing it now that firefight came out
>>344548660
I'm 22. I never owned an Xbox, I was always a PlayStation guy.
>>344548616
That would have immediately killed their struggling console.
>>344548581
>never played the bungie games
>>344548727
>round 4
>grunt mech
>roll out in tank
>blow up 3 seconds later from fuckin big dick needler
>>344549596
>grabbed screenshot from google images
pathetic
>>344547826
Because Humanity and the Elites hate each other.
You may have forgotten that the Elites were the military leaders of nearly a 25 year genocide against Humanity while the Elites had 25 years of propaganda that Humanity consist of inferior savages that should be destroyed to make the galaxy better.
A handful of leaders that respect each other doesnt mean the average soldier will think well of each other.
>>344549720
Oh.
>>344549717
>MEGA ATTACK
the knights with rocket launchers are worse
>>344534782
yeah this shit isnt dead, but i stopped playing immediately after i beat the campaign on solo legendary. The fucking shit was so bad i couldnt bring myself to touch the game after that
>>344550784
bad in what way.
Don't tell you had trouble fighting three warden eternal at the same time
>>344550784
Picked up the collectors edition for £15 brand new couple of days back. Slowly making my way through the campaign and played like 2 hours of MP.
I knew it was going to be terrible like Halo 4 and I caved in and fuck me did not expect Call of HaloField Hardline seriously -.-
>>344546983
>>344546875
>most tall grass removed
>buildings aren't half covered in vegetation
>smg is subtely lit with blue light for no reason
ffs they almost had it right.
>>344534782
Just can't compete with Evolve anymore
>>344549741
>A handful of leaders that respect each other doesnt mean the average soldier will think well of each other.
Actually, the Sangheili came to respect humanity and began to question why they hadn't been allowed a place in the Covenant after having fought so well against them.
Sangheili came to respect humanity because they could put up a fight, despite being seriously outmatched.
>consoleturds trying to boast about graphics
lol
>>344534782
they made a sequel to Halo Combat Evolved
everything
>>344551067
>tfw got master chief collection for $9.99 on some cd key site
>don't even have an Xbone
The console being a giant fuckup is kind of nice since you get to reap some cheap games.
If I can find an Xbone for dirt cheap, I may actually get it.
>>344551838
is that on pc?
what?
>>344552112
yes
>>344552112
yep
>>344534782
I remember when the game was first revealed and everyone thought Locke was a female sparten and Chief's LI. I sort of wish that had been the case.
>>344552403
>>344552446
nigga hmu where do i get in at
>>344552554https://www.reddit.com/r/haloonline
>>344552403
>eldewrito
i'm looking around on a few websites. you're a dev?
if so then you're doing gods work, son.
Bungie left
>>344536084
They fucking made the game free for a week. Of course the population shot up. Wait until the august numbers come out.
>>344544453
The game is not incomplete. Warzone firefight is a whole new take on firefight. The game had plenty of content on launch, my only gripe is how short the campaign was.
>>344552759
H5 has never been "dead" in its lifetime, though.
You still find matches every 30 seconds or so, even without the free week.
>MAUs
dat MS PR speak tho
>>344547964
You missed the good days. Never forget bungie day.
>>344552554
oh yeah, and halo online doesn't use halo 3 armor by default, need thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/HaloOnline/comments/467hkz/halo_3_armors_mod_v272_video/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloOnline/comments/44bfx1/halo_3_weapons_pack_1/
I don't remember if I use the weapon mod though.
>>344551838
they added in bungie designed armors? god damn I gotta reinstall
>>344534782
>no splitscreen
>four multiplayer gamemodes
>locked popular, staple gamemodes into a lottery limited to the weekend
>micro-transactions replacing actually unlocking stuff
>no splitscreen
>campaign sucked
>reusing the same bullet-sponge boss eight times
>no splitscreen
Not sure if any of this has been fixed since launch, but the fact they were there when the game first released really hurt them.
>>344534782
they tried to appeal to casuals.
>no real 1-50 ranks
is 343 retarded?
>>344556002
>1-50
>better than divisions
Don't reply to me if you're the autist that thinks 1-50 is better just because it has 50 levels.
>>344553205
i just downloaded from the main link and used the updater and it seems to work just fine for me.
>>344552071
Don't! Seriously! I sold my PS4 to get one and the Halo 5 purchase rammed my stupid decision home.
UI is shit and laggy and it's turned into more of a social media platform rather then gaming. You will see a lot of little fucking kids putting out montages and and shit, ughhhh FML..
Don't make my mistake..
>343 announced it has as many or more active users per month as halo 3, the most popular game in the franchise
>hur dur its dead what went le wrong
>>344543039
That's not Reach anon
>>344557908
>image.gif
>ughhhh FML
Fuck off, newfag
>>344551838
No one is boasting about the graphics, I've been shitting on them
>>344558349
Newfag? I've been coming here since 2008, some of us have jobs and use their phones. We can't all be NEETs like you.
>>344535369
Wrong. I've ran into the same people online even when the game was new it's population is worse than Halo 4's.
>>344560720
>I've been coming here since 2008
>>344560983
Didn't know what else to say m8
>>344534782
> Hey, let's put a woman as our best-selling franchise boss cuz diversity and SJW, those guys really buy a lot of games, don't they?, just look at how many games Anita has.
>>344561704
Locke is also black.. Next it's going to be Master Musatafa. The only Spartan who specialises in explosives.
>>344535220
first post best post
>>344534782
>>Game is already dead online
They literally just announced that Halo 5's activity was the best in the series since Halo 3
>>344560720
dumb phoneposter
>>344561704
kill yourself retard
I didn't even know that came out until like 3 months after. Not an Xbro though.
>>344563471
Shut up Bonnie
>>344563415
point?
>>344563642
please, PLEASE kill yourself
an accurate account of what happened
>>344544453
Same goes for all of sony's games sonycuck
Literally no numbers to back up the fact that all of it's games are dead
Though we all know shitborne is dead online wise by now.
>>344548660
>Tfw missed 7-7-07 because I didn't get an Xbox until 08
>Missed all of Halo 2, only arriving around the tail end of it's Xbox 1 life
>Managed to stick around for most of Halo 3/Reach's life up until the start of Halo 4's take over.
>2 Years of no access to Xbox live because of lack of affordability and Campus rules forbidding the purchase of our own Internet or even access in our rooms.
>Now back to No Xbox status because of Xbone and now Scorpio on the Horizon and not even sure if MCC or 5 is worth it the commitment.
I'm selling my PS4 pretty soon since it's Disc Drive died, should I put the money towards a used Xbone instead?
>>344564473
Hey. Take my advice.
>>344557908
>>344535220
this
they destroyed the multiplayer with their first attempt and lost 80% of the remaining fanbase
>>344565153
reach did a great job destroying the multiplayer by itself
>>344565354
you mean COD took the playerbase
>>344549079
And yet it's happening anyway now with Halo 6.
But
>Windows 10
>>344565690
I'm just going to pirate windows 10 enterprise and turn all the tracking shit off
forza horizon 3 on pc is so worth it
>>344565778
You are conducting illegal business, I am reporting you to my local PD. Please expect a team to intercept you're PC.
>>344564473
If you know someone with an Xbone you can actually abuse the family sharing feature to share games and Xbox Live memberships and you only end up paying half of the total cost for new releases. That alone makes the Xbone somewhat worth it.
The PC versions go to the account where the games are bought, though.
>>344549079
Nope. People rarely buy consoles for the exclusive. Most console players are just too retarded to build a PC.
>>344566228
No need for that, Microsoft's sales protection team is here.
>>344536267
it did
it doesn't make a ton of sense but the game is picking up steam, and I'm fine with that, because for better or worse I've kind of hitched my wagon to Halo's star
>>344544453
>Every other halo game has had some way to check the population, but they have hid this in Halo 5.
what makes you think those were accurate?>>344544547
>>344545573
it doesn't make a difference to most people
not only that but Halo 5's zoom-in/ADS is basically the same as Halo 1-Reach except for some affects on recoil and the presence of headshot mulitpliers and zoom-in on weapons that didn't have them before
>>344567897
Thank the Maker, I trust you will take the necessary steps to bring the law breaker to justice?
Oogy boogy
>>344541903
>Heard already that they're ditching smartscope ADS for Halo 6
Nope, they're not.
>>344541903
Its not ADS
I really don't understand why there's hate for the smartscope when it works mechanically as a more balanced version of scoping in 1-3. The only benefit you get from it is long range autoaim and bullet magnetism for a few weapons, and you're easily descoped nonetheless.
The pistol in 5 without smartscope would be a complete piece of shit.
>This entire thread
The game's dead outside of America. Period. The only time I get games is later afternoon here, and tehn it's yanks in gamechat. With the exception of last week when it was free, I can only play TS/Warzone any time before 7pm.Not that I care since it's grindy req bullshit, and pistol/grenade spam 24/7
>>344546457
Halo 5 looks pleasant in motion, but 343 is no graphics powerhouse, their job is serviceable at best.
And to those idiots saying that the game is game, go play firefight. I've never spent more than 1 second waiting for a match.
>>344571674
>Pistol/grenade spam 24/7
The pistol is the weapon with the highest skill floor and skill ceiling out of the bunch, but a BR wrecks it pretty easily, though.
>>344571541
>The only benefit you get from it is long range autoaim and bullet magnetism for a few weapons,
That's how scope always functioned.
>>344547413
Agreed, the Metroid: Other M of Halo.
>>344560801
Halo 5 has the most active players per month since Halo 3. Why lie, Anon?
>>344571674
Every Halo game can be boiled down to 'pistol/grenade spam' or 'BR/grenade spam'
>>344547469
>>344547760
Not that guy but Bungie you know your last two games (ODST & Reach) were shit and yet you call them your best Halo games and then you use their shit designs for Destiny. What the fuck happened to you guys, where is the Bungie from Halos 1-3? I don't like what you guys became (ODST, Reach, Destiny).
>>344571674
>The game's dead outside of America
buuuulllllshiiiit, I live in Brazil and just finished playing 5 straight hours of Firefight. One caveat though, my console's system language is set to english so I don't know if it affects my matchmaking somehow.
>>344535220
this desu senpai
>>344571535
You literally aim down the sights
>>344573476
Not on all weapons.
>>344547826
>Playing Bungie's trash after they made three amazing Halo games and then ruined their own series with two incredibly shitty spin off games
Fuck off to Destiny Bungie shill.
>>344573334
Christ, that part was horrible, even fanboys like us gave 343 a lot of shit for this. It was unanimously hated.
>>344573476
visual shit for like 4 weapons
who cares?
do you consider zooming with a sniper rifle ADS?
>>344573624
>>344573830
It still exists in the game on a bunch of weapons, even more if you count Warzone variants.
>>344573624
lol
>>344573830
>muh visuals dont matter
Yes, why not make halo a pixel game with, or give everyone bright red animu spiked hair.
ADS is not halo, that you can even fire the assault rifle with zoom is already retarded. Clearly pandering to the cod audiances who need to have a form of controlled accuracy or zooming. very sad.
>>344574041
>ADS is not halo,
It is now. :9
>>344573974
>It still exists in the game on a bunch of weapons, even more if you count Warzone variants.
and it still functions the same as zoom, you don't move slower and it barely effects accuracy
>>344574041
>Yes, why not make halo a pixel game with, or give everyone bright red animu spiked hair
go away strawmanning retard
>>344574308
>and it barely effects accuracy
It affects accuracy to a significant amount on the automatic weapons.
>>344573334
>hyper slow fight
>Master Chief gets his ass kicked
>Master Chief doesn't follow up on half of the moments where Locke is stunned or fucked up
I hate 343
also
>Ad campaign revolves around these two killing each other
>this is the only moment in the entire campaign that they fight
>the rest is just Cortana going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>344534782
The fact that it was XBONE exclusive
>>344573698
>ODST was bad
Reach was meh but I thought it was pretty good.
>>344574371
And if you get shot once you suddenly lose that accuracy. Precision weapons are still better at range but automatics at least can kill people at more than 5 feet
It doesn't effect precision weapons at all either
Everyone who used to like Halo has jumped ship, I can tell because old Halo threads used to be completely self-contained with very little consolewar faggotry.
New Halo threads are just Sony threads with a different paintjob, proving that the new audience that has replaced them are more interested in shilling their favorite brand than discussing their favorite games.
Didn't buy an Xbone and I don't regret it, not only did Halo go to shit but it took the community along for the ride as all the good people left.
>>344574461
>Master Chief gets his ass kicked
Didn't play the game I see.
>>344571674
I just got this and the MCC a few days ago, it's faster getting games on Halo 5. Fucking hate the intermission shit.
t. Europe.
>>344574308
>visual shit for like 4 weapons
your words not mine, then again I doubt your mind can do without ADS.
>>344574595
It gives the BR less recoil.
It also takes up a bunch of my screen space when I'm just trying to zoom in. I can't keep track of how many times I'm zoomed in with a magnum or something and completely lose track of the guy at the bottom of my screen
>>344574608
New Halo threads are Sony shit-flinging now because the retards can't stand the fact that the best sci-fi series is owned by Microsoft.
>>344573334
>Master-Chief a Spartan 2 has trouble connecting hits with a inferior spartan 4
Damn right I'm fucking mad
>>344574775
>It gives the BR less recoil.
The BR has no recoil to begin with
>dead
lel, no
It certainly has a lower population then most prior halo games, but it's far from dead. And it's not like the lower population has anything to do with game quality, it's
A: Halo isn't, and hasn't been a game popular with people since like 2007, pretty much every other FPS franchise is more popular now
B: Almost nobody has an xbone to play it
C: nobody trusts 343 after 4 and MCC
Halo 5 could have been the best game ever made and it still would have a lower population then 3 or even reach.
>>344542068
> but the multi is better then halo 4 from what i've heard
It's not only better then 4's, it's better then reach's and 3's too. The core gameplay, balance, and forge is the best the series has had, but it's still lacking in terms of the amount of maps and game modes, even if it's better then it was at launch for that. Also, as you said, the campaign is pretty ehhh
>>344544479
>>344543502
>>344542675
Don't know how the fuck you managed to get it to look so awful, but it doesn't look like that in my game
>>344574308
>>344573974
>>344573624
>>344573476
>>344541903
>>344574371
It's just zoom, but on all guns. In terms of the actual gameplay element of it, it has way more in common with Zoom in past halo games then ADS: You move just as fast inside and outside of smart scope, and you aren't required to use it to shoot accurately; and it's best used in the same way zoom was in past halo games.
If you try to play halo 5 as if it has ADS, you'll get destroyed because that's not how it's supposed to be used
>It affects accuracy to a significant amount on the automatic weapons.
To a significant amount? No. On the AR, It reduces the rate at which spread builds up by like 15% at most. It's more then negligible, sure, but it's not significant; and on the other autos, I can't even tell if it does anything at all beyond the zoom
Also, see >>344574595
I agree it's visually cluttered though compared to zoom in the old games, especially for the pistol.
>>344574461
That wasn't the whole fight, MC gets serious right when that webm cuts off.
>>344574608
Confirmed for never visiting the threads.
Most of the time /hg/ is about 3 vs Reach vs 5 discussion.
>>344574940
don't try and take me for a fool anon i know how that fight goesit's still really slow
Game is trash, played just 2 games and went 15/7 and 17/10 if a lvl 2 can beat the hardcore lvl 100s then the player base is shit, cuz i'm not good at the game desu
>>344574608
>not only did Halo go to shit
Halo 5 has the best MP the series has had since 2004.
>>344574461
>Ad campaign revolves around these two killing each other
And Halo 2's ad campaigns revolved around you defending earth and time traveling AI's, and 3'a ad campaigns revolved around an AI trapped on the bungie.net forums and master chief dying.
Don't see anybody bitching and whining about how those didn't match the final games. Probably because nobody here was old enough to remember them,. Halo threads are just filled with Halo 3 babies nowadays,
Halo was crippled by Call of Duty years ago. It's been limping on ever sense. Halo was the de facto shooter-to-beat for 6 years.
>>344575156
>Halo 5 has the best MP the series has had since 2004.
That doesn't make any sense considering Halo 3 came out in 2007
>>344575365
Halo 3 had shit multiplayer
CE=5>2>everything else
just give me a classic halo option you fuckers I do not like sprint or clamber or thrust so just add a second game mode for people like me, its easy you give us the options in custom games just make an official game type
>>344574940
MC doesn't get serious, Locke just becomes temporarily retarded when he decides to take out the device and lock his suit.
>>344575509
Halo 3 was 2 but better
>>344536267
It wasn't higher than three, it was higher than any since three. It's better than 4 which doesn't really tell us anything.
>>344574913
Watch the whole fight you bumbling idiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNrpa0ZIr1E
>>344575575
>MC doesn't get serious
Then why have a closeup on MC, followed by him pounding Locke into the dirt?
>>344575365
>>344575509
2 had the best MP you fucking faggots.
>>344534782
bigger interest in pushing for "social justice" then actually making a good game
>>344551212
>tall grass removed to improve sight lines
>buildings closest to scrub growth have grass and vines, those away from scrub growth do not
>smg is now physically rendered and blued like a real gun
you're a faggot who can't enjoy things
>>344575758
>2 had the best MP you fucking faggots.
No it didn't
>>344574940
(different person speaking)
Im thankful that the Chief wins but I think it was way to close. The Chief is a Spartan 2 fighting a Spartan 1. The Chief was trained from the age of 6 in a boot camp that would put ODST to shame (remember in Fall of Reach how he takes on 4 ODST without armor at the age of 16ish and murders them) with additional training of 27+ years of combat experience in the worst warzones out there followed by the advance armor that makes his movement so fast it would break the bones of normal people... vs a Spartan 4. It shouldnt even have been closed.
Spartan 4s are good, but they should not even be in the same ball park of Spartan 2s. That was the fight I would expect with a Spartan 3 (sped up of course). The fact it was that close with a Spartan 2 is crazy, the fact its the Chief just shows that 343 doesnt know the lore.
>>344575832
Yes it did you faggot.
>>344575509
>>344575365
IMO
>core gameplay
5=2 > CE > Reach > 3 > 4
>amount of content
Reach > 3 = 4 > 5 > 2 > CE
>map design
2 > CE > 5 = 3 = 4 > shit > Reach
>Balance
5 > Reach > CE > 2 = 3 = 4
>>344575758
>>344575832
>>344575886
I'd say overall, 2 and 5 are tied for best. 2A beats both out if you count it, since it fixes 2's only real flaws: The shit balance, and the lack of forge
>>344575832
It did though.
>>344575156
Halo 2 actually caught a lot of flak for the fact you barely spent any time defending earth.
>>344575705
>Then why have a closeup on MC
Because 343i painfully wanted Master Chief to look cool, while having no understanding of what made him cool to begin with.
>>344575886
>>344575973
2 babies are the worst, just because you played it when you were 10 doesn't mean it was the bestest game ever, the weapon balance alone was abysmal. It did have some pretty good maps.
>>344575967
Reach had the worst core gameplay out of any Halo game.
>>344535220
/thread
>>344575967
H2A was just H4 mp with a different skin, it was shit
2 classic is where its at
>>344576073
>implying 3 babies and reach babies arent the worse
>>344576210
There are no 3 babies, but there are Reach apologists.
>>344576073
I was 17, faggot. Older than you were when you played 3.
>>344576287
>most popular selling of the series
>was a lot of peoples first
>system seller
>"no 3 babies"
lol
>>344576327
I was 20 when 3 came out
>>344576287
There's a shitton of people who ONLY played Halo 3 and everything after it, none of the others
some of them are probably itt and think 3 is literally the perfect Halo game
>>344534782
It came out?
>>344576529
>some of them are probably itt and think 3 is literally the perfect Halo game
I've never heard anyone say that but i'll let you think that.
>>344575967
>amount of content
Let me fix this for you:
Reach > 5 > 3 = 4 > 2 > CE
Completely agree ith the rest.
>>344575967
>Reach
>Balanced
>>344576210
Fanbase/apologist/babies ranking (from worst to best):
Reach > CE > 3 > 2 > 5 > 4
>>344534782
It's Halo Multiplayer number 6, people are bored.
Warzone Firefight has done nothing but cement to me that Promethians are the worst enemies this franchise has ever seen. Why am I stuck fighting this garbage nearly every round instead of the far superior and fun to fight Covenant enemies?
343 needs to stop fellating itself and its shit design and just remove them from the franchise already.
>>344576123
I disagree. I enjoyed the player physics in reach more as well as the gunplay compared to in 3. Bloom on precision weapons is bad, yes, but it's better then the completely uncontrollable spread the BR had in 3, and bloom is a good thing on autos.
>>344576131
>H2A was just H4 mp with a different skin, it was shit
That's factuallly false, you clearly never played it.
>>344576841
The weapons were much more balanced then 2, 3, and 4, and i'd argue more then CE.
The guns, unlike 3 and 4, all felt unique, innstead of being clones of each other. The Focus rifle was still a long range sniper type weapon, but it prefromed very differently from the UNSC sniper. The Plasma launcherr was a charge up anti vehicle weapon like the spartan laser, but still preformed very differently, etc. The only clone guns in reach are the DMR/NR, and the Plasma repeater/AR. Everything else is despite having analogs feels unique. CE is also like this, but Reach also does it while having way more guns
Furthermore, all the guns in the game, minus the plasma repeater, were useful. The AR could actually hit shit at longer distances, the plasma pistol did enough damage to kill again, rhe magnum, while not OP like it was in CE, was usable and was much better then it was in 2 and 3, etc.
I'd consider that good balance, at least relative to most of the other halo games. Why wouldn't you? The DMR is obviously still the best gun, like the BR and M6D before it, but it's not AS dominating as the halo 2/3 BR or CE magnum was.
>>344575987
I know, I remember, but nobody does anymore. My point was poeple are shitting on 5 for things that 2 and 3 did and they don't mind it for 2 and 3.
>>344552403
Damn nigger that looks crisp.
>>344576131
>>344577613
Actually, lemmie explain why that's false:
Everything in the H2A MP matched Halo 2, except for the upgraded graphics, added sandbox elements like the AR, gungoose, etc; slightly changed map design, the removal of certain bugs, and the hitmarkers and grenade indicators.
The physics, accuracy/weapon values for all guns that were in halo 2 originaqlly, the gunplay, etc, all of that is identical to halo 2.
>>344577613
I actually think very poorly of 2 for that but I see what your point is now. I didnt like the marketing for 5 but its not something that I will hold against it.
I will be annoyed at how poorly they showed Blue Team and how you spent most of the game playing as Locke instead of Chief.
I still liked it more then I liked Reach
>>344577613
Reach had slow movement, low jump height, no bleed through, bloom, AAs, Loadouts, 3 weapons that were balanced (Grenade Launcher, Pistol, and Plasma Pistol), cardboard vehicles, and it fucked strafing. How the hell did it have good gunplay and balance again? It was shit in comparison to any Halo. If turn off the bs in Halo 4 even it plays better than Reach.
5 Words
>We
>Want
>The
>CoD
>Audience
They killed the series with Halo 4 and then burned the corpse with Halo 5. Halo 6 will be pissing on the ashes.
>>344578735
I love how Bungie shills like to ignore that Reach was also going for that shit fanbase. Never forget FIRST PERSON ON-RAILS HELICOPTER SHOOTING SECTIONS
>>344579029
You have to undertand that it's okay when Bungie does it.
>>344578364
>Reach had slow movement, low jump height,
And I liked it.
> no bleed through
Which was a good thing. It meant that close range encounters weren't people just spamming melee, and the person who actually had trigger control and timing won because if you pushed melee before the other persons shields were down, you lost, since now you have a half a second recocvvery time before you can shoot again, and now the other person can pile on more damage and then finish you off
>bloom,
I already explained why controllable bloom on the NR and DMR was preferable over the uncontrollable, random spread the BR and carbine had in 3; and bloom is just straight up a good thing on automatics. Learn to read.
> AAs, Loadouts,
Not a part of the core gemapplay, since it's gametype dependent. If you don't like it, play a mode where they are disabled, or AA's are on map pickups.
Bitching about loadouts in Reach and saying it's a problem with the core part of the game is like bitching about how SMG starts is a problem with the core gameplay of 2: It's only an issue if you play a game mode where that's enabled.
> weapons that were balanced (Grenade Launcher, Pistol, and Plasma Pistol)
False. More guns are useful and viable in reach then were uin Halo 2, 3, 4, and CE. Did you even read the post you are responding to?
>>344578735
>I've played Halo 5: the post
Halo 5 has no loadouts or killstreaks. Everybody starts with the same guns. and weapons are on the map. .
Also
>implying a feature is inherently bad just because CoD has it
>>344579102
>>344579029
>implying selecting an armor ability is at all comparable to selecting a gun, grenade type, killstreaks, and perks.
>>344579225
>Bungie shills
Always trying so hard to fit in with REAL Halo fans. You guys are hilarious you will apologize for anything Bungie did to Halo after Halo 3 would you?
>>344579312
Who gives a fuck. Loadouts in general are bad and don't belong in Halo attacking 343 for it yet defending Bungie for it means your a fucking Bungie shill not a Halo fan.
>>344579312
4 continued what Reach started, there's no way to deny this.
>>344578735
After they fucked up 4 I thought
>how could it get worse
Then 5 came out.
I can't wait to see how badly 6 is absolutely butchered.
>>344579446
>>344579580
I've shit on Halo 3 a bunch of times in this thread, retard.
I praise the stuff 343 and bungie do right, and shit on the things they do wrong. There's noithing wrong with loadouts as long as there are matchmaking playlists without them, which is where Reach and 4 both fucked up.
It's an issue with their MM, not with the core game, which is my point.
>>344579616
I'd disagree. At least, IMO, loadouts in reach felt more an indeppedent devolpment that just generally mirrored FPS trends going on, not CoD, speffically. What 4 did was clearly trying to copy cod in particular, since not only did it have (expanded) loadouts, but also perks and killstreaks.
Personally, I'm fine with loadouts and even perks in a shits and giggles sort of mode (which is what invasion in reach and warzone in 5 are), but again, reach and 4's issue is they were the default settings, and for 4, the ordiance/killstreak stuff is just, always shit and never fun.
>>344580424
5's MP is great, though.
>>344580424
>he thinks 5 is worse than 4
Why do shitposter keep lying about games they don't know about?
>>344580424
5 is better in literally every way except arguably campaign in comparison to 4, though.
>>344581327
>>344581497
I'd say it's not only better then 4, but reach and 3, too
>>344581224
>I shitted on Halo 3
What this supposed to make you more of a Halo fan, this just proves that you're not. News flash Bungie's only good Halo games were Halos 1-3, ODST & Reach might as well not exist.
>>344581327
Yeah, it's just shit instead of diarrhea. It's better but when the bar is as low as 4, that's really not saying a lot.
>>344581497
>only half the game is shit
343 apologists, everyone.
>>344582372
You really don't know anything about what you're talking about, do you?
>>344582687
Thanks for the (You), senpai
>>344576901
>>344576901
>implying anyone believes reach is the pinnacle of the series
2>=5>=3>=1>>>>>>everything else for multiplayer
1=2>=3>5>>>>>>>>everything else for campaign
I don't think anyone from 343 understands what makes Halo a great game, and I don't think they understand that each of the first 3 Halo games were great for different reasons.
Halo CE was great for its sense of exploration. I remember playing Halo CE as a young'n, and there were several moments in the game that, in retrospect, are really simple, but at the time either blew your mind or, because they weren't explained at all, forced you to think about them.
The unexplained bridge in the first 5 seconds of Halo? The isolation you experience throughout the game? The sleeping grunts? Beautifully executed. If Halo CE was released today your AI or squad leader or whatever would IMMEDIATELY tell you about the history of grunts sleeping, how they've encountered them before, and every grunt kill would have a custom animation. That's bullshit. Players need to be left in control, and that means explaining the bare minimum of shit. Assassinating elites was cool in CE because it was such a rare, rewarding moment. The THUNK of the melee, the deathrattle, the ragdoll splattering bright coloured blood all over the walls. Now I don't want to assassinate anymore. It was cool at first, but I've seen all the animations so it's just not as rewarding anymore. It forces me to stop playing the game for three seconds, and then the bodies fall limply and gracefully to the ground as my ballerina pirouettes off. And don't forget being teased by the Banshee the ENTIRE game and then finally being granted the privilege to ride that bitch like you always wanted. Halo CE is beautiful because Forerunners were mysterious, because the Covenant was vast, alien, and powerful.
>>344582806
It is an animu poster asswell.
>>344583061
Halo 2 was great because it iterated on the exploration aspect of Halo CE, with the discovery of the second halo, and began establishing a universe without getting too obsessed with details. The underwater elevator made of glass? How did that shit even WORK. Giant corpse monster with teleportation magic? fuuuuuuuck. ODST drops? My nigga damn that shit was cool. Halo 2 was great because it emphasized the best parts of Halo CE. Large scale vehicle on ground troops combat. Vehicle rampages. Giant crazy alien shit (Scarab). Civil war within the Covenant leading to the disgrace of the noble warrior Sanghellicopters. Increased emphasis on the flood, which were already terrifying. And it introduced multiplayer, on a scale Halo CE never could, focusing on maps that crammed the most amount of combat into the least amount of space.
Halo 3 was great because it was a refined Halo 2. Brutes fully integrated into the Covenant. Scarab fights were cool? Have a double scarab fight fuck you. Stealing banshees is cool? They're all yours. Arbiter is cool, but not as cool as Master Chief? Now he's your greatest ally, and somehow becomes equally as cool as the Master Chief. Sergeant Johnson is your favorite character? He saves your life and goes out in a blaze of glory on a giant exploding alien installation. Flood are scary? They're literally taking over the universe, what are you gonna do about it also you have to attack the entire flood by yourself you little bitch. Think Cortana's hot? Now she's got dem ass n tiddies and is getting mind raped by your arch nemesis- the ancient demon undead tentacle monster genius from hell.
But most of all, the reason Halo 3 was great was the way it handled lore. The entire game was carefully, meticulously crafted with each aspect of the lore in mind. The structure of buildings, the organization of troops, the motivations of the various characters, the relative power levels of vehicles, the way in which the levels were ordered.
>>344583084
Don't get so buttmad from an anime picture, Anon, and stop shitposting.
>>344583210
EVERYTHING made perfect sense, and can be explained, but wasn't. Master Chief, as a character, never encounters these reasons. The player can choose to read all the terminals, read the books, play again on legendary and read all THOSE terminals, and piece together the entirety of the story, and the fact that so many Halo players DID is a testament to the effectiveness of this strategy.
Remember the Halo Bible?
You could play through the whole game on Heroic, play multiplayer for a couple weeks, and come back to the several thousand page lore whenever you wanted.
This just doesn't exist anymore. Everything 343 made after this is explained to the point of exhaustion, and the stuff left unexplained doesn't matter. Who gives a fuck about Locke? Why do we know the entirety of the history of Master Chief's bloodline. Why do we know the entire pre-history of the human race? Why do we pretend that we knew about the Guardians all along, when it was just another ODST Engineer-style bullshit plot device.
Guardians could EASILY be removed from the story entirely, and plot would still make sense outside of why your characters are on that planet in the first place. Is full control over the Warden and similar killbots not enough magic robot bullshit for Cortana to wipe everyone off the face of the Earth? Would it be too much to ask for Cortana to actually FIGHT the combined Human and Alien races in an attempt to assert her dominance.
We could have lived in a world where Cortana realized she was turning into a mechanical version of the flood. We could have had a world where the flood weren't removed from the Halo lore entirely. We could have had a world where Cortana faces off the flood invasion and ends them once and for all, leaving a galaxy in peace.
There is no sense of wonder left in 343's Halo. Everything is boring. Animating a giant world-destroying plot device and calling it a Forerunner weapon doesn't make your game interesting.
>>344573334
>dat prolapse
>>344582806
Wow you sure showed me.
>>344575882
bump
>>344583210
Dammit man you're putting tears in my eyes. This is why I love Halos 1-3. :'(
odst the best.
>>344583415
>dat dick
>>344583061
>>344583210
>>344583328
Well said.
>>344584145
>>344583415
WEW LAD
>>344535220
I don't even know how they managed to fuck it up. It was 343 Industries for Christ's sake, one of them was bound to get it right.
>>344573334
So there's like, low gravity wherever they are, right?
That's what's happening, right?
