I beat Persona 3 & 4 recently. I just checked some screenshots of P2 and I'm not sure I could deal with this one, maybe too old for me. Is it still relevant or it didn't age pretty well?
>>344529595
It is better than 3 or 4 by a mile. Also, it's not too old for you. You're too young for it, summerfag ;^)
P1/2 are essentially a different series from 3/4. Don't go into it looking for the same thing.
>>344529724
>summerfag ;^)
I hang out here since 2009 kek
>>344529724
SMTfags said that about Soul Hackers, and that turned out to be entirely average
>>344529926
>having to throw out some random year to prove youre not a summerfag
yup. sounds like your typical summerfag
>>344529942
As opposed to P3/4 being masterpieces of weeb mediocrity?
>>344529926
2009 is still newfaggotry friend
>>344529942
P3 & P4 are very average games with gameplay being dumbed down from mainline SMT and stories & characters taken straight from a shit-shonen circa 2005. Both P2 games are among the darker PS1 JRPGs, feature neat battle systems (there's always room for optimising and strategy, and only fags bitch about encounter rates). The story is also pretty darn good, with jaw-dropping twists every 2 to 3 dungeons. How can shitty glorified VNs even compare?
>>344530029
>he knows 4ch since 3 or 4 years, is probably 25 years old max and thinks he's an oldfag
kiddo pls
>>344529595
Can't really compare to 3/4, so. The graphic is still quite alright, but I can understand if anyone feels it's too outdated, even if it's the PSP version.
The battle is more tactical, if without positioning like your usual sRPG, so you may spend a whole lot time in battle menu than the actual battle.
The combat can be tedious but I like the story/characters. you should've played them before 3 and 4.
If you decide to play them play IS before EP. PSP version. EP is only available on PS1 if you want it translated though.
>>344530232
>>344530051
Not OP and don't care about purseownership, just see a lot of hype for 90s RPGs that aren't actually special.
>>344529595
It depends on what you liked about P3/4, which are usually known for appealing to the masses of anime fans.
P2 is more of a canonical PSX jrpg, with a good and absurd story (in line with smt standards), well developed characters and npcs and 100% less anime tropes. Sadly it's a bit too easy though.
>>344530314
You're just a shitter with no taste. 90's JRPGs are cream of the crop.
>>344529595
It has the most fun story of the series and great characters, but the gameplay is truly awful—the worst in the series (even P1 is better.)
>>344529595
Start with Innocent Sin for PSX. Its not exactly P3 or P4, but it's good in it's own way.
But whatever you do, do NOT play the PSP version. It was total shit.
>>344530335
I mean Innocent Sin, Eternal Punishment is probably even better in everything and one of the very few jrpgs with a cast of adults
Persona 1 and 2 were released before "Hard Mode" was a thing
"Hard Mode", a difficulty that makes Persona's systems shine, is only available starting with 3 FES unfortunately
The lack of hard mode makes P1/P2 mediocre at best
SMT If... is better than the Persona games it inspired.
>>344530437
On PSP; on the contrary, the PSX version was good.
>>344530478
What? How's PSX better than PSP.
>>344530593
Gameplay changes. The PSP version was much harder to control.
I gave it a shot a while before and while I love the tone and atmosphere the battle system was so slow and clunky it was a chore to play. I felt like it was trying to slow me down on my way to learning more about the characters, who were all fun and interesting. If I ever give it another chance it'll be the emulated version sped up several times.
I still lose my shit every time when Tatsuya does an impression of a fighter jet though.
>>344530593
It was rebalanced to be a lot easier for some reason and got a pretty bad dub.
both is and ep are good. the first game is trash, complete garbage, does not belong in this would and should not exist
>>344530638
I didn't notice anything wrong. I don't see how can that kind of combat be improved without changing it entirely..
>>344530730
The dub was fine.
>>344530760
C'mon. It gave us Mark.
>>344530649
Maybe you already knew, but you can remove a lot of the animations and speed battles up through a bunch of options, iirc
>>344530760
The first game is good actually. Find a better atmosphere.
>>344529595
You could argue that 3 and 4 were where Persona hit their stride, and there's good reason for that.
The first Persona games weren't very good at all.
Persona needed a few entries to understand how it wanted to play.
>>344529926
>not part of the 10 years club
step your game up, I bet you have a rewarding and working life as well, loser
>>344531091
How it wanted to make itself marketable for the dumb masses, you mean? 3 and 4 have nothing on 2, they are just shitty anime VNs.
>>344529595
Play the PSP adaptations, same with Persona 1.
Or just stop being a faggot and diverse into the main SMT games. Nocturne is a good starting point.
>>344531245
>PSP version
>EP
Nice try
>>344531403
Aight I'll give you that, but as long as he doesn't play the US version of the first Persona, everything is alright.
>>344529595
Great story and characters. Some interesting gameplay mechanics like fusioin spells. Don't know why people shit on combat so much, there were games with much worse combat released at that time, FF for example.
>>344531660
is there someone who cut together the story so i can go watch it somewhere? I only see lets plays or walkthroughs which go on for avout 130 episodes.
>>344532301
How about you play the game, you gigantic flaming faggot?
>>344531607
Some people like that version for its goofyness and the soundtrack.
>>344532301
I've seen some let's play without random encounters.
>>344529942
SH was japan only which is why it was circlejerked. At first barely anyone gave a shit about amy SMT, then p3 caused wave 1, which moved onto nocturne, then sj, then the snes games in order to remain contrary to what they saw as evil casuals threatening their special snowflake games. Evem though they are the casuals for never playing Ronde
>>344532340
I am not really interested in the gameplay as much as i am interested in the story and atmosphere. I would play it if it wasn't so much of time sink with gameplay I don't feel comfortable with.
>>344532301
I can spoil the whole thing for you if you want.
>>344529595
Don't bother, it's shit
>We can't talk about P1 or P2 without the "dated combat" shitposting
>We can't talk about P3 or P4 without the waifu shiposting
>Meanwhile every other MegaTen game has normal discussions and people can get by without being retards stuck on either side of a fence without enjoying them all
>>344532487
sukeban
>>344529595
RPG's are the lowest form of entertainment, full on action that testes your reflexes and quick wit is the way to go, not shitty games that bend to your will only because you pick over and over the same option on the menus
>>344533121
it actually has a word damn.
>>344530437
>P1 better than anything
That game was awful, only thing that made it worthwhile was the characters.
>>344533128
Oh, yeah. Since Michael Bay movies are clearly the best cinema has to offer.
>>344533128
>Quick wit
You don't have much of that if you play generic action games.
>>344532796
>tfw love P2-4 and this shit happens whenever an interesting discussion starts
>>344530437
>PSP version
>>344533568
>Grasping for straws
Pathetic
I love Ayase.
>>344532451
Ronde was shit
>>344529595
The random encounter rate might turn you off--I played this back when I was young/patient enough to deal with it, but nowadays any JRPG that doesn't have map enemies or an item to equip/option to turn off random encounters gets a hard pass.
>>344531660
This guy is correct, although people shit on combat for the above imo--it's interesting (contract dialogue, fusion) but due to the frequency it gets old QUICK.Also Maya best girl.
>>344531235
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I completely agree with you.
Persona wasn't selling the numbers they wanted so they made it playable for non-autists in 3 and 4.
But honestly, after having played 2 I don't miss the way that game did stuff.
>VN
And see this leads me to think you've never even played 3 or 4.
>>344536310
>Persona wasn't selling the numbers they wanted so they made it playable for non-autists in 3 and 4.
I find this a weird assessment just because I consider 3/4 to be super autistic because of the calendar/dating sim aspects.
IMO it's more like they signed some kind of fell waifu pact and now any Persona game can't launch without social links+romance options or it will fail (similar to Fire Emblem's new pairing mechanics).
>>344536310
>In its year of release, Innocent Sin reached #62 in the Japanese sales charts, selling 274,798 copies.[43] The PSP remake reached #6 in the Japanese sales chart during its first week of release, selling 62,721 units. It dropped to #11 by the following week, selling a further 10,400 units.[44][45] By October 2011, the game had sold 110,000 units in Japan, placing among Atlus' best-selling titles for that year.[46] During its first week on sale in North America, it reached second place in the sales charts.[47]
>inb4 200k wasn't a strong number for a niche genre on the PS1
Also
>You have to sit through s-link conversations to get better fusions and stronger party members
>It's all just generic slice of life shit
>>344537101
They're very intro-tier in terms of autist dating-sims.
I do agree that they've kinda' written themselves into a corner. There's no way any future Persona games can exist WITHOUT the date-bait aspect.
It's too bad too, because Atlus is starting to apply this formula to other franchises too.
>>344537101
>it's more like they signed some kind of fell waifu pact and now any Persona game can't launch without social links+romance options or it will fail (similar to Fire Emblem's new pairing mechanics).
It's only a matter of time before all of my favorite JRPGs fall to this unholy pact. YHVH have mercy on Dragon Quest.
>>344537354
200k is great for it's time. But considering they're selling 5 times as many copies now, they'll never go back.
>>344537503
Nothing is safe from the waifu-bait. The reality is that it's just easier to sell sluts than to sell games.
>>344537518
I know. And P3 and P4 aren't bad either, but just the fanbase and spin-offs are enough to make me want to shoot myself.
>>344537754
Agreed. I think the problem is that though the games aren't bad, they are not heading down a road it's easy to come back from.
>>344537868
I'm hoping that at least Persona 5 vanilla is good before they market it to death with some sort of Farmville or Minecraft game.
>>344529595
The gameplay is very rough.
But the story is just as interesting as P3/P4's stories, if not more.
>>344537754
>implying DAN isn't the hypest shit on the Ps vita
https://soundcloud.com/albert-softie/worth-the-tv
>>344538207
Just because it has good music doesn't mean that the game or plot isn't barebones. I speak from experience as I've got top 10 on the leaderboards of almost every song.
>>344538329
Fair enough.
What did you think of the other spin-offs? (P4Arena/Ultimax, PQ)
>>344538395
Not the anon, but only PQ is worth a damn.
The other Arena is only worth it if you are into fighting games.
>>344538000
when's Persona 5 Arena
We already have a persona thread:
>>344536986
>>344538395
The fighting games are okay and Persona Q is good fun.
>>344530437
>Playing the inferior dubbed PSP version instead of the well-done fan-made translation for free on PS1 emulation.
>>344538395
Arena is very poorly designed from a story/writing perspective (it's literally 10+ hours of "friendship is magic" compared to the other persona games that wait until the end to pull that shit) but it quite effectively integrates Persona combat themes into a fighting game. Plus Adachi's side story was pretty okay.
Q's harmless fun with some great music, though lots of people here hate it because it waters down the characters to stereotypes/one personality trait.
>>344529595
>P2
At least it's less weeb than 3 & 4 are.
>>344538926
>what is undub
>>344537354
A lot of the S-Links in P3 aren't slice of life shit, tho.
I mean, it is there, I won't deny it, but a few of them are really well done imo.
>Little girl struggling to understand a divorce
>A man dying young of a terminal illness tries to find peace
>A crooked businessman passes on his experiences and learns to be a little bit better as a person
>A washed-out monk separated from his family finds the courage to return to his old life
P4 I can't defend as easily since the lighter tone of the game makes many of the S-Links less interesting and more SoL stuff.
>>344529595
It's good. IS on PSP is extremely easy though for whatever reason. Guess they wanted to get people into EP faster but then they didnt localize EP PSP. best story of the personas and best characters
>>344529926
Anything after 2007 is summer
>>344539132
Something that shitter who's been shilling the inferior PS1 version non-stop has no clue of.
>>344539713
Eikichi was the coolest motherfucker in townafter Tatsuya
Baofu and Maya are the best characters in the persona series
>>344539489
Hopefully P5 has good Social Links again.
>>344529595
remember Persona 2 has two parts to it. Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. Play both
>>344533831
>PS1 version
