The TF2's RED vs BLU 60s aesthetic is cooler than Overwatch's style.
Discuss.
>>344461639
I would've agreed with you entirely had Valve not butchered said aesthetic for cash
Classic TF2 is without a doubt better than Overwatch. In every way.
Overwatch is without a doubt better than current TF2. In every way.
>>344461775
desu it's only a matter of time till blizzard does the same
>>344461991
Yep, sucks
>>344461931
Modern TF2 is the same game as classic TF2 but more balanced
>M-MUH HATS
Absolute autism
>>344461775
first post best post
>>344461639
both are total shit
tf2 was good it's first two years of release
overwatch is just a casual game for casual people
>>344462237
This.
>>344462237
Mechanically sure, but F2P ruined the playerbase
>>344462732
The new matchmaking will filter out F2P shitters from your games. They just need to play more games so their hidden ELO adjusts.
>>344462237
>adding a hundred additional variables/weapons to the game
>more balanced
>>344462237
>more balanced
>sniper character can see through walls
>>344461639
wait why the fuck does BLU attack on payload if RED is supposed to be a demolition company
>>344462942
Just a remindet that in classic TF2:
>Pyro was useless
>Medic was the most boring class to play
>Demoman was OP AF
>Engineer was very stationary
Right now we have a healthy and balanced meta due to the additional weapons.
Early TF2 > Overwatch > Current TF2
This applies to visuals, gameplay, and playerbase.
>>344463182
this desu
>>344463037
???
>>344463096
Because it's all a scam
>>344463182
At least back up your claims with arguments.
>>344463096
Its ironic.
>>344462870
That's cute that you think Valve can do something right, do something to improve a game, and do something period.
"The new matchmaking," if it ever comes out, will be completely broken and will get two or three updates before they forget about it.
>>344463182
Let's get this out of the way.
>>344461931
>current tf2
what? what's wrong with it besides the "muh hats" retards.
>>344463349
Are you legit retarded. The update came out two days ago.
>>344463398
>>344463437
Everything. Shit maps, shit aesthetic (and yes, hats are that bad), custom loadouts.
>>344463506
>>344463037
reading comprehension is a great skill
>>344463625
>>344461639
It was.
Too bad Valve shit all over it and with gusto.
>>344463398
>implying being able to fly around as soldier like a monkey is a good thing
>>344463742
It's easily one of the most satisfying things to pull off
>>344463695
Literally the only people who will defend this are blizzdrones
Nobody with more than 3 braincells would think this is okay
>>344463506
>>344463625
>>344463695
No one says this is ok other than the people who push for casualness so much they think this is alright. I hope they fix this shit akin to how Valve changed CS:GO hit boxes.
>>344463578
>shit maps
Like what? No one forces you to play on them.
>shit aesthetic
http://www.teamfortress.tv/16179/no-hats-mod
>custom loadouts
made the game a lot better
>>344463742
You trade off health and ammo for mobility. It also takes a lot of learning to become good at rocketjumping.
The 60's aesthetics are better. Too bad they left a long time ago.
>>344463171
>Right now we have a healthy and balanced meta due to the additional weapons.
You mean a meta where everyone can hard-counter everything with every class
The entire point of a class system is to encourage teamwork with a system of balances and counters, not call of duty build-a-loadout bullshit. All loadout-building does is allow players to minimize the inherent weaknesses of each class, somewhat defeating the purpose of playing as a class on a team.
Obviously some classes will always be good against others, but that's where we're heading.
>>344463398
Seeing how Pharah played in Overwatch was so disappointing. Hell Junkrat does a better job at flying around than her.
>>344463742
It is when it's hard to do and is considered a feature rather than a bug. Besides, jumps like that aren't very viable in most cases unless you have a medic. Otherwise you'll be at the point with 10 health left.
blizz defense force incoming
you guys sure are gonna regret posting those webms!!!
>>344462870
nah i'm fine playing Overwatch desu senpai
>>344461639
I agree
>>344464052
You can almost sense them typing
They need that sweet, sweet $0.02 from Blizzard
>>344463986
Now that's just not true. The only weapon I can think of that allowed that was the sandman.
>>344464134
>muh hats ruined tf2
Yes, it looks different, the aesthetics changed to this wacky cartoons type. It's not necessary a bad thing, thought I can understand how some people can dislike it.
But in terms of game balance and fun gameplay, tf2 is currently at its peak. All these cosmetics add nothing other then being, well, decorative wear
>>344464236
What does this image mean?
>single, cohesive style where all characters look like they're from the same game while at the same time being visually distinct from any distance is better than a mashup of individually designed and overdesigned characters
You don't say.
>>344464556
Hitbox forgiveness for different characters. It means that you can shoot this high with character X for the game to still register a hit.
it's a lot easier to make an aesthetic style after something that has already existed, rather than what may possibly exist.
>>344464556
hit boxes
just idiots trying to find a reason to complain.
>>344463986
>Junkrat can fly around with 6 sec cd mine that actually does damage
>Winston has a 6 sec cd that does dmg on landing near enemy
>D.va has 6sec cd rocket that can be controlled mid flight omni directional
Pharah has one way trip that can be slow hovered for only 2 secs (death sentence) has no protection like D.va Winston and it doesn't do ANY damage like Junkrat ON TOP OF TAKING ALMOST TWICE AS LONG TO CD
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?
The 60s aesthetic from Vanilla, right? Because neo-TF2 is an abortion visually and completely fucking removed any trace of the 60s aesthetic.
>>344464485
>not necessary a bad thing
Aesthetics are important, or else we'd might as well scrap the entire thing and be playing ugly prototypes as long as the "core" gameplay is still there.
>>344464751
This is the most bullshit excuse for it I've read. There are plenty futuristic games and movies that manage to keep a cohesive artstyle.
>>344464763
Overwatch = Bike with learning wheels
TF2 = motorcycle
>they think people still care about their shitty f2p game from a decade ago
lol
enjoy your twelve-year-olds and brs.
>>344463349
>>344463469
even Muselk hates the new TF2 comp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRPRgxTnU-0
>>344464763
>shoot a mile to the left of someone
>register a headshot
>this is idiots just looking for reasons to complain
Blizzard defense force in full effect I see.
>>344465034
who gives a shit about this tf2 redditor
>>344465034
>some literal who eceleb hates TF2 comp
Who cares?
>>344461639
You would've been right if you made this post eight years ago, now tf2 is a clusterfuck of shutter shades and garish paint
>>344465034
>Muselk
Why should I care.
Also, most of the issues adressed in the video have already been fixed or are in the process of being fixed.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22797
>>344461931
na, for one thing so is the very poor map selection and simply how boring the maps are a big drawback when compared to TF2
>>344465157
>>344465174
>>344465207
that's a lot of salt and damage control coming from people trying to prove TF2 is better
>>344465034
Muselk's been riding blizzard's cock the moment he got beta access so no surprise there. His videos were bottom of the barrel anyway
>>344463913
List 3 objective reasons why large hitboxes are bad.
>>344464751
Nigger Overwatch jacked designs from other series.
>>344465393
>List 3 objective reasons why large hitboxes are bad.
Casual
Fuking
Pleb.
>overwatch releases
>massive popularity
>valve decides to release a comp mode for tf2 after the game has died, the corpse was raped, buried, digged up, raped and buried again
>assmad kiddies, poorfags and fedoratippers pretending anyone gives a shit about the shitstained hat trading simulator that TF2 is nowadays
The fact that people in this thread RIGHT now are using the visual style to try and defend the game is maybe the most ironic part of all.
>>344465348
That's not damage controll. Valvo fucked up with the update, now they are fixing it. Not like Blizzard didn't fix their game after release
>>344465469
Competitive update has been in development for months friendo.
>>344465469
Comp mode was in beta long before this board got overrun with Blizzard shills
>>344464968
And here's 2016 TF2
>>344463986
>>344462942
I'm not even going to bother reading all of your posts. You are complaining about unlocks, 99% of which are INFINITELY inferior to stock.
Scout, Soldier, and Demoman are all at their best when using pure stock.
Heavy, Sniper, Pyro, and Spy are all at their best when using stock with one or two unlocks.
Engineer and Medic are the only classes that have multiple viable unlocks.
Just because you get shit on by the Huntsman and the Natasca doesn't mean they're good weapons.
Git gud before you run your dumbass mouth.
>>344465469
>Message from Blizzard studios.
>0.05$ has been added to your account.
>>344465457
well, all japs look alike, and aspire to look alike. I wouldn't say they jacked anything, just following the cookie cutter montony of japan
>TF2 has been dead on /v/ for literal years, no one cared about the game but for the few comics that came every 6 months
>only poorfags, bronies, kids, furryfags and other degenerates played TF2 in the last 2 years
>Overwatch gets announced, everyone is upset because "EEET LOOOKSS LEEEIKK TEEMM FOWWWRRTRIESS TCHOOO"
>Overwatch gets released, it's a huge success, well received, everybody and their mom loves it
>TF2 shitposting increases over time on /v/ as a damage control from autistic fucks who hate the game for no given reason
>Valve pulls a "competitive update" and some shit to keep the game afloat, as it is showing now a severe decline in users in years
>now everyone and their mom loves TF2 to death, everyone suddenly forgot about the retarded weapons, item sets, the hats, strange and gambling system and how the game turned from an arena shooter to a retarded meme machine with conga and other retarded stuff
>every single thread about TF2 has at least a few overwatch shitposters and tons upon tons of idiots spamming "HAAHAAA B-BLIZZARD SHILLS11!11! OVERWATCH DEFENSE F-FORCE!1!!
Can you guys get anymore pathetic than this?
>>344465614
>implying that's a bad thing
>>344464763
I love overwatch but this is absolutely something to complain about. These hit boxes are retarded, even though I'm pretty sure the target dummies have the biggest hitboxes in the game the regular character and projectile hitboxes are far too big.
>>344465393
Characters can be hit behind cover if the hitboxes do not correspond to the character model, which is unfair.
Larger targets are easier to hit, dragging down the skill ceiling of the game.
Because you touch yourself at night.
>>344461639
>is
was
ftfy
>>344465613
>>344465591
The game was released ten years ago, you fucking retard. Take that dick out of your mouth. What kind of shitty fucking game releases a competitive gamemode 10 years after release?
>Muh blizzard shills
You contrarian faggots are literally the most pathetic people on /v/ and that's saying something.
>>344465692
nice blog
>>344465692
>TF2 has been dead on /v/ for literal years
Why was there almost a weekly "we play tf2" thread then
>>344465861
>nice blog
>blog
...What?
>>344465692
TF2 threads have had occasional threads for years in /v/, with more appearing with every update.
The game is still going strong after nearly 9 years.
The only reason I don't play Overwatch is because it looks broken as fuck, catering to the lowest common denominator with a low skill ceiling.
>>344465393
1. They make it seems unfair. If you see someone hitting air near you and still registering a hit, you are obviously going to be upset by it.
2. Large hitboxes cause inconsistent aiming. With smaller, more accurate hitboxes you are obviously going to target the body, but with large ones the player is just going to shoot anywhere near the character model. It is a bad habit.
3. Two points are enough.
>>344465469
TF2 comp was in planning before OW was even announced. Get your facts right before you start shilling.
>>344465692
They don't hate Overwatch for no reason, they hate it because it's popular.
Even before /v/ was filled with smarmy 16-year-olds, it was this way.
>>344465627
>99% of which are INFINITELY inferior to stock.
Then why did they even add them? Just casual bait?
>>344461639
absolutely and completely agree with you. overwatch barely has an aesthetic at all. it like what? comic book futurism? its garbage. too bad tf2 is dead and its corpse is desecrated by fugly hats
>>344465848
>What kind of shitty fucking game releases a competitive gamemode 10 years after release?
A game that has been consistently updated for those past ten years, apparently.
Why so mad, overwatchbabby? Is it because a ten year old game is still better than your slow as molasses casual faggot game?
>>344465848
Who the fuck makes a game to compete with a shooter released almost 10 years ago?
>>344465892
Where?
Are you dreaming, anon?
>le tf2 is way more popular than overwatch
>>344465915
>still going strong
Definitely not because it is a good game, anon.
Lets not forget how the game turned into F2P and then into a retarded shithole.
t. orangebox owner
>>344465627
>You are complaining about unlocks, 99% of which are INFINITELY inferior to stock.
THEN WHY EVEN CLUTTER THE GAME WITH THEM
WHY ADD USELESS SHIT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING USELESS SHIT
>>344461639
>red is demolition team
>blue is builder team
>red defends
>blue attacks
explain this valvedrones
>>344465848
>The game was released ten years ago
And it's still popular today, what's the problem? The game didn't release with a competitive mode since esports weren't as popular back then as they are now. And what's wrong with a developer releasing occasional updates?
>>344466056
They are still here every one and then, I dunno where you are looking. I even played with my fellow /v/irgins a few times
>>344465994
>They don't hate Overwatch for no reason, they hate it because it's popular.
i hate it because it's spammed on this board all day when it looks like complete and utter trash
if it was made by any company besides blizzard and wasn't filled with shitty waifus nobody here would care about it at all, but i guess when two disgusting fanbases overlap shit like this is bound to happen
>>344461775
I don't think anything else needs to be said desu, what happened to TF2 is a tradegy
>>344465915
>you will never be so autistic that you're this deluded
I literally never saw TF2 threads EVER for the last few years save for rare occasions once or twice a year.
You don't play Overwatch because you're a fedora-tipper who likes to think he's special. Go on, be special and play your awful fucking hat farming game filled with russians, brs and prepubescent children.
>>344466114That's the joke.
>>344465998
Pretty much. They're supposed to look interesting enough to attract new players but not be good enough to change the established meta.
>>344466071
They are fun to use, but I bet you don't know what that word means
>>344466114
What is irony
>>344466197
Yeah, all with brony avatars and furry names\bios on your steam profiles.
Indeed.
>>344466274
>I literally never saw TF2 threads EVER for the last few years save for rare occasions once or twice a year.
Alright Anon now we know you're baiting. Go shitpost someplace else.
>>344465915
>tf2 takes skill
Nigga I love both and they're both piss easy
>>344466071
So that you can have different playstyles?You know,because games are supposed to be fun?
>>344466197
>I even played with my fellow /v/irgins a few times
You're not helping your case.
>>344466251
This. I legit think Overwatch is a pretty fun game, but the amount of threads and "THICCKK"fags is fucking crazy
>>344466251
>I hate it because it's spammed
So what you're telling me is...
Hold on... Let me see if I got this right...
You hate it because... It's popular?
>>344461639
too bad the aesthetic doesn't exist anymore
>>344466056
It might as well be more popular on PC.
TF2 still has 2 million active platers. If what Blizzard was saying is true (OW has sold 10 mil copies across 3 platforms) then it's safe to assume that console players are at least 2/3 of the playerbase. You do also have to factor in the players that have just stopped playing the game. It is very much possible that TF2 is more popular on PC than OW.
>inb4 it's F2P
My argument still stands.
>>344466326
They wanted them to be viable but valve "balancing" is a fucking joke.
The Brass Beast was considered the worst minigun before the MYM update and they proceeded to nerf it.
>>344464485
>Hey I have a great idea, let's take overwatch and change all the models to homosexual men in underwear wearing a my little pony hat. We can give each class a different color so it doesn't affect your ability to perceive.
>IT DOESN'T AFFECT GAMEPLAY SHUT UP HOW DARE YOU SAY IT'S A BAD IDEA
Everything about a game, including the aesthetics, is important because it decides what kind of fanbase the game has. What if the game had swirling color patterns everywhere in the textures and drug references everywhere possible as its default look. All the angsty teenage drug addicts would come in and your games would be filled with people spamming on low quality microphones
>duuude idk what im even doing
>lol XD im so high sry just fyi
>LOL GUYS only melee weapons OK?? Gonna run at you with melee only
>>344466461
I wouldn't care if it was popular if I didn't have to see it.
>>344466331
Being suboptimal just for the sake of being different isn't fun.
TF2's selection of viable strategies is extremely shallow, it's just a game of pure mechanics to see who can execute the strategy the best.
Which is fine as a sport but far too repetitive to be enjoyable to play without real stakes, as the purpose of sports is to be a fair test of skill, not a source of enjoyment.
>>344466312
>>344466331
It's not funny though. It's just wrong.
>>344466480
>It is very much possible that TF2 is more popular on PC than OW.
I was going to write a funny blurb about tf2fags being delusional as fuck, but jesus. Read what you write, you're doing it for me.
>>344466616
It's so the fucking game doesn't't get stale. Unlocks add depth to the classes you fucking idiot.
Your complaint is like HURRRRR WHY ARE THERE MORE CHARACTERS IN STREET FIGHTER THAN RYU AND KEN DURRRRR
>>344466649
>It's not funny though.
Wow you sure showed me wrong with that hot opinion.
>>344466585
Shame there's no way to hide threads you don't want to see you fucking retard
>>344466480
no it doesn't
>a free game vs a 40 dollars one
GO TO EATA YOURSELF YOU CYKA BLYDO
>>344466529
>homosexual men in underwear wearing a my little pony hat
1)That hat is a joke which can only be used on Halloween
2)Homosexual men in underwear are way closer to Overwatch
>>344466028
>constantly updated
You mean constantly getting worse and worse?
>>344466585
Do you... Understand what popularity is, anon?
>>344466797
If every thread started with "overwatch" in the title or OP then that would be viable, but this is not the case.
>>344466616
idk senpai, my favorite thing in TF2 right now is playing a cow mangler soldier and abusing the fuck out of the alternate fire, it's pretty amazing.
>>344466804
>my game is pure! PURE!!
>overwatch is shit!! SHIT!!
cringed
>>344461931
so TF2 on hydro with only default weapons is better than TF2 on infinitely better maps with the fun and skill of added weapons?
>>344466869
well gee anon clearly if things are changing that must mean they're updating the fucking game
>>344466930
Yeah shit you're right, woe is you, if only there was some way to do it manually as well, someone call hiroshimoot, we need to get him on this hot issue right away you fucking retard
>>344466267
It happened with TF2 and it happened with Dota 2 even when the community told them no. Valve is beyond redeemable
>>344466793
But that's my complaint, they don't help the game be any less stale because there is never a reason to use them over stock.
>>344467048
shit dude, you're right
i should just hide every overwatch related thread or post after it pops up because that will solve having seen it for sure
Post 'em
>>344466796
I realize you can't explain humor but really
It's like what if every character's head was turned 180 degrees the wrong way?
Or doors closed when you got close to them instead of opening?
Like- is it ironic? Yes. Is it funny? No.
>>344466987
Where did I say that it's pure? It's not, it still has an awful amount of bronies in its fanbase. At least we don't need butts to attract players
>>344467129
>I don't like thing
>just hide it
>NO
You deserve every bit of butthurt you feel you lazy fucking retard
>>344467093
>GOD GET ALL OF THESE OPTIONAL PLAYSTYLES OUT OF MY GAME
You're a fucking moron.
>>344466480
>If what Blizzard was saying is true (OW has sold 10 mil copies across 3 platforms) then it's safe to assume that console players are at least 2/3 of the playerbase
It's not safe to assume that at all. There could be a single player on each of xbone and ps4 and it would be across 3 platforms.
>>344465994
>overwatch is popular
kek no, spergs making le epin fanart on tumblr doesnt equate to popularity.
The only problem with modern TF2 other than the cancer community (which overwatch also has, if not worse) is that most of the fun gametype community servers are dead or on life support or at least the ones I used to play are. Also the game feels a little bloated with dozens of features and extra shit I don't even play like MvM (a distraction for about a month before I got tired of it) Mannpower (shit) etc. However the core game is still fun.
I feel like if TF2 wouln't have become so bloated, not even the amount of hats just the amount of extra weapons that serve absolutely no use or purpose even when putting tradeoffs into consideration it would still be fun for me. Overwatch is much more casual than TF2 however, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but makes every victory feel hollow. You jump in, play a 2 minute match and either stomp or get stomped and you can't even see your score at the end. To me that's just silly.
That's just my two cents though, your mileage may vary
>>344467321
>i don't like thing
>lmao just like hide it lol
>i cant because they dont use the title in their threads
>well like just hide it after you see them lol
>but that doesnt solve the problem
>lmao youre just lazy lol
kill yourself anytime
>>344467337
Please be baiting
Surely nobody this stupid exists
>>344467269
>Overwatch thread
>THICC
>Roadhog is cute, CUUUUUTE!
Funny how they claim their fanbase is better when it's full of waifu/husbando faggots.
>>344467448
forgot pic :///
>>344462237
>>344463437
The balance is completely fucked. Classic TF2 was good.
>>344467337
The current TF2 playerbase, ladies and gentlemen.
>>344467583
The balance was ducked even more in classic TF2 you nostalgiafaggot
>>344467378
This anon gets it
>>344465034
I was probably one of the last defenders of modern TF2, and the new system was the straw that broke my camel's back. Literally the first game I joined had some dipshit on the other team using lmaobox with a pocket medic. That's nothing new, but now we can't spectate them to confirm it quickly OR votekick them off.
The first thing I did after closing the game was list my unusual for sale. My TF2 group disbanded earlier this year, so it's not like it took much to finish off my morale, but this was a curveball that hit me in the side of the head.
Classic TF2 is obviously the best game.
Current TF2 is a fucking abortion visually, balance is hardly fantastic.
Overwatch is not awful - better than current TF2 - but it's probably headed bad places and it has a LOT of problems that Blizzard are unlikely to fix (hitboxes, overtime, etc)
But it's fun for a break from other vidya.
Literally any other opinion is wrong, driven only by contrarianism.
>>344467590
>>344467441
>absolutely no attempt to rebutt anything, just straight up denies that overwatch is selling like garbage
So this... is the power... of overmemers... damn...
>>344467539
When did you get TF2? I also only have a few hundred hours. I regret not getting it earlier, but I wasn't into PC gaming when it came out.
>>344467432
But you are lazy you faggot, holy shit how hard it is to hit two buttons when you don't want to see a thread
>>344467683
It was
>Pyro is fucking useless
>Engeneer is immobile as fuck
>Heavy can't heal himself, something that every tank should be able to do
>Medic is really boring to play
>Background Overwatch takes its setting very seriously with themes of transhumanism, racism, genocide, crippled war vets, etc
>Actual game Overwatch is FPS Mario Party
I haven't seen a game with such a divide between actual game and narrative since Bioshock Infinite. Or Destiny.
Reminder not to reply to obvious shitposting
>>344467337
FUCKING DELETE THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!
>>344468042
Overwatch is the Smash Bros of shooters.
>literal press button to win mechanic that doesn't go away after you die
>>344468014
>>Heavy can't heal himself, something that every tank should be able to do
>ever under any circumstances, in any walk of life, even once just to see how it feels eating your own sandvich
You should probably kill yourself.
>>344467971
Same boat as you brother. 2013.
>>344468014
So if, at launch
>Pyro has airblast
>Engie can move buildings
>Heavy had changeable secondary
Would it have been better?
>>344468042
>FPS Mario Party
That's the most accurate way to describe that game. It also applies to tf2 servers with random crits
>>344467791
>lmaobox
didn't a ban wave just go out for this shit?
ffs Valve get your shit together, Blizz at least PERMA banned all it's cheaters in the 1st month
>>344461639
>implying I don't like both
they're both great games.
>>344468093
>That bald spot
Can overwatch haters get any more desperate?
>>344467093
>he doesn't use cow mangler, scorch shot, huntsman, jarate, demoknight, loose cannon, crit-a-cola, flying guillotine, sandman, sandvich, breadbite, tribalman's shiv, hitman's heatmaker, beggar's bazooka, gunboats, battalion's backup etc. etc.
>The TF2's RED vs BLU 60s aesthetic is cooler than Overwatch's style.
*was
>>344468242
It would. Also Medic needed a more useful melee/primary.
>>344463398
Rocket Jumping is hardly that important faggot
>>344463398
according to /v/ literally the only thing in TF2 with depth is rockey/sticky jumping and matches are just 9 soldiers/demos vs. 9 soldiers/demos practicing rocket jumping
it is the ONLY thing brought up in threads about why TF2 is good or has depth. there is nothing else.
>>344468461
>Rocket Jumping is hardly that important faggot
>>344468261
>trying to prevent hacking in a FREE to play game
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>hacker gets "banned"
>make new steam account in 2 minutes
>downloads hack v 2.0 four days later
>valve takes 14 months to detect and ban the new hack
>repeat
This is why I'll stick to Overwatch, f2p is casual cancer
>>344468180
>Overwatch is the Smash Bros of shooters
You mean it has the deepest gameplay and the highest skill ceiling of the genre?
>>344468461
What the fuck am I reading? Movement is extremely important, not just in competitive but even in fucking pubs you need to be able to rocket/sticky jump.
>>344461775
First post best post
>>344461931
>Memewatch
>better than anything
Even Battleborn is better than that trash.
>>344468372
>Sandwich
>when the Dalokosh bar exists
Seriously, it's way better, especially when your team has no Medic
>recharges almost every 5 seconds
>get 350hp for 20 seconds
>get small overhead before a push
>can be a chocolate dispenser for your team
>>344468545
Then play comp.
It's there for a reason.
>>344462808
Glad to see that European armed forces have their priorities straight.
>>344468461
>Positioning isn't important
Spotted the Mercy main.
>>344468461
If you don't rocket jump, you're nothing more than a bullet sponge with shit mobility.
>>344468665
*overheal
>>344468668
>buy something for 5 cents on steam market
>you are now PREMIUM
>hack in competitive while laughing at Valve's slow, shitty VAC system which probably won't even ever ban you anyways
ok
>>344468461
Holy shit lol
>>344468604
It's a great game actually
>>344468559
>You mean it has the deepest gameplay and the highest skill ceiling of the genre?
>>344468821
You can't get in if you provided a phone number that's associated with your vac banned account anon.
>>344468950
Mad combo memorization shitter detected
>>344463962
But Hanzo's arrows have been shown in the Dragons trailer to bend slightly / curve etc. Could be intentional
>>344468978
Fair enough, but will Valve really be able to prevent spoofed phone numbers? I hope so.
I think Blizzard should copy this shit.
Hackers should be sought out by the government and lynched in the streets
>>344469095
If it is then that's even more idiotic.
>>344469095
No one's saying they didn't intentionally make the game casual.
How do I convince my normie friends to play TF2 instead of overwatch?
>>344469060
Sad babby that can only press one direction and attack button at a time because combos are too hard for him detected
>>344468708
it's like they're begging for russia to steamroll again
>>344461931
Completely agree. It feels like almost every update is a step backwards. Very few add new content, and those that do are usually "buffed spy, nerfed demoman"
>>344469312
it's free
>>344467187
The RED team is often defending a large weapon. For example, the huge rocket on Dustbowl or the weird laser cannon at Gravel Pit.
>>344469529
That makes more sense
>>344469529
Yeah and the absolutely nothing at upward.
>>344469517
Don't you need a premium to access the matchmaking?
>>344468604
Is that why Battleborn extremely fast while OW got 10m? You might just have shit taste and I'm saying this while I don't play Overwatch.
>>344469684
Competitive yeah.
"tf2 is so casual silly dumb autistic something"
Meanwhile OW has no server browser. No ability to choose what mode you play. What map you play. Muh teamwork making it difficult for invidual to stand out. You have literal skating cyborg (his lower body is all robot) niggers shooting wubs against underage korean starcraft players mixed up with scientist gorillas and dyke russian bodybuilders. Both the characters and the map locations just scream for muh diversity and then we have people telling that TF2 (current) has way worse look. Big fucking noncustomizable huds and weapons that block one third of your screen. Its high noon, I've got jews in my sight, let's break it down, behind you, I require assistance and the other hundred automated voicelines that fuck into your ear the whole game. Forced post-processing and vision blocking effects. Ultimates that you dont lose on death. No way to tell if enemy has ult. Game plays around ulti spam fights. Coinflip competitive mode. Wow raiders and Heartstone retards lecturing you to play while you get multiple golds. OW's 103 fov is for 4:3 and is equivalent of 70 fov when played in 16:9.
Like I could just go on and on but I honestly dont just have the effort.
>>344463398
Friendly reminder Pharah can also rocket jump without her abilities.
>>344461639
Why is red the defending team if they're known as demolition and most objectives revolve around stopping blu from blowing something up?
>>344469952
I guess you can, but why would you? There's literally no downsides to using hover or pressing shift save for cooldown, but mobility is how you're supposed to spend that cooldown.
>>344463182
Overwatch has like 3 good maps, at best, and if you wanna talk about shit balance then look no further than having a class based FPS with 2 dozen characters set around hard counters
>>344463913
>>344463695
>>344463625
>>344463506
>>344463398
>tfw don't play any of Blizzard games since wotlk
>tfw I don't agree with any of this
I still like playing the game and I have fun. You kids will always be angry while I have fun and I love it.
>>344465614
I would totally drive that.
>>344467187
None of those things are "ironic". Red/blu having opposite roles than their names imply couples with the fact that each name would seem to imply the role that the other team has is ironic.
>>344470069
That's the joke.
>>344469952
Pharah can rocket jump, but Soldier needs to rocket jump.
>>344469335
But I can do your outdated attack methods.
>>344470175
I mostly use rocket jumping when I have my pocket, when I'm facing another pharah and I want to quickly get off the ground without using F and to quickly jump into a close range JUSTICE RA- AUUUGH
Also using those abilities puts it on cd which you don't always have and hover also doesn't actually increase mobility.
>>344470362
oh I also use rocket jumping hwen paying 40 hp is way better then dying to those god damn tracer/reapers who somehow is always right where I'm at when I want to land and refuel.
>>344469204
well you can actually put in someone elses phone number and by hacking you will get him banned too
its kinda fucked up
>>344468950
>Smash has a low skill ceiling
???????????????? That's literally not true and could not be more false. I mean Overwatch doesn't but Melee does.
>>344469904
>"Overwath is so casual silly dumb autistic something"
>Meanwhile TF2 has no server browser. No ability to choose what mode you play. What map you play. Muh teamwork making it difficult for invidual to stand out. You have literal brony f transexual (game theory said pyro was female) faggot shooting fire against underage bostonian scout players mixed up with African Scottish men and redneck engineers. Both the characters and the map locations just scream for muh diversity and then we have people telling that OW (current) has way worse look. Big fucking noncustomizable huds and weapons that block one third of your screen. Poot dispenser here, mmmmmmph, Zee doktor iz in, Maggot, You are fully charged and the other hundred automated voicelines that fuck into your ear the whole game. Forced post-processing and vision blocking effects. Ubers that you dont lose on death. No way to tell if enemy has Uber. Game plays around Uber spam fights. Coinflip competitive mode. MLP raiders and CS:GO retards lecturing you to play while you get multiple frags. TF2's 360 fov is for 4:3 and is equivalent of 70 fov when played in 16:9.
>Like I could just go on and on but I honestly dont just have the effort.
>>344470856
Do you not have to verify the phone number when you provide it?
>>344470914
>Meanwhile TF2 has no server browser.
Aaaand he missed.
>>344461775
/thread
>>344461639
>I PLAY TF2 AFTER THE F2P UPDATE
I hope you don't play overwatch
>>344462237
This
>>344471051
My bad I meme'd too fast
>TF2 has Friendly hevy, TRADE and IDLE ITEM server browsers
you happy now?
I'm premium but it says I still need a £7 "pass" to play comp
>>344471234
Strike two.
Make it count this time, alright champ?
>>344471286
Sorry Valve wants more money from you.
>>344471286
no you need mobile auth
>muh literal fedora hats and autistic shinee guns
please off yourselves tf2 plebs
>>344468604
Thats taking it too far anon.
Overwatch might not be great, but it's miles better than Battleborn.
>>344461639
Agreed until they caved to the SJW and brought in the Mary Sue cunt to tell the boys how silly they are and be "so above it all."
>>344471749
What's wrong with Miss Pauling?
>>344468559
>Implying Tr4sh takes skill.
Holy shit.
>>344471843
She's a woman.
>>344471749
>I've never read the comics
it's ok anon neither did my dead grandmother
Melee is a Smash game too. He/She/Xe never said Tr4sh.
>>344471051
missing, like tf2's playerbase
>>344471867
Okay no one actually thinks tr4sh takes skill. He was most likely talking about Melee.
>>344471749
nah tf2 alpha was ok but then they added announcer wtf its a woman voice thats retarded
>>344471843
>only two women in the game
>males are a bunch of idiots killing each other
>but the girls are so le smart and pulling the strings xD
Wow!!! This game is so sexist and needs female representation in the character designs. It's not enough that the males are all 'tards being played like fools.
>>344472101
ok mr mommy issues
>>344472101
>game based on stereotypes and tropes
>angry there's a stereotype and trope
modern tf2 userbase in a nutshell
>>344472010
Overwatch doesn't have a style. It's just disconnected ripoffs cobbled together. Like a fucking chinese knock-off.
>>344472101
>the secretary to the old, seen some shit, smoking, old enough to be your great grandma, announcer is smart
>this triggers you so hard
>even though this game's story revolves around two brothers inheriting the same plot of land in New Mexico and fighting over it using mercenaries
>since the goddamn 1800s because they lived for over 100 years due to their life-extending machinery
>then it turns out they had a third brother with a much better life-extending machine so he could actually live forever
>then he kills both of his brothers
>then sends a unholy fuckload of robots to kill all the mercenaries hired by the first two brothers
>but the fact that the only two women in the game who have impact on the game's story are smart
>it's SJW
this is such a transparent false-flag to act like a gamergater it's retarded
>>344466804
The point he was trying to make is:
If a developer decided to ruin their aesthetics like that (make every character model a naked gay man with a pony mask) by default, it would be a problem and would directly affect the game as a whole very much, as opposed to the argument that gameplay is all that matters and people complaining about ruined aesthetic have no valid point.
>>344472913
Pauling ain't smart
>it's an Overcucks insecure about their purchase so they have to shit on other games episode
W.E.W lads
>>344461991
>implying Overwatch even has a concrete aesthetic
>Hawaiian Roadhog
>Firefighter Mei
>Mariachi Reaper
>Vigilante Mcree
>Demon Mercy
>Safari Winston
stop pretending they didn't already go full retard with their cosmetics as well
TF2 aesthetic and maps are better then Overwatch
Overwatch skins are better then TF2's mix and match cosmetics that manage to surpass Overwatch in nonsensicalness
TF2 2009 and so on is better then Overwatch now
Overwatch 2016 is better then TF2 2007.
>>344464134
the fuck is this shit WHY
I opened TF2 today, played a casual match and had fun.
I also opened Overwatch, played a match and had fun.
I don't know why there needs to be constant threads with everybody arguing over asinine bullshit.
>>344475476
You're posting on /v/. Let alone 4chan
>>344475476
Because /v/ are full of autistic kids who can't stand you liking something you don't.
