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>Nothing is Uncrackbale

Wrong.

So Wrong.
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>>344431294
you know some russian guy already cracked it right?
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Crack's not far off from being finished, though.
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>>344431294
>already been cracked like three times
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>they think polymorphic security solutions are really that easy to crack for every game and protection version
>they think locks are made to not be cracked ever
When will you learn that locks are made to act as a deterrent or at best a delayer?
Fucking tech illiterates are always hilarious whey they think they're people.
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>>344432283
How ironic.
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>>344431470

Mkdev ?
Bronco ?

Mkdev just doing another family sharing exploit & Bronco dont want to release his crack.
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>Game doesn't have Denuvo
>"Gee, this game was fun/okay/garbage, I'll buy it right now/wait for a sale/be glad I didn't waste money."

>Game has Denuvo
>"I don't know how this game feels, so I'll never play it or wait until the game is like five dollars."
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>>344431294
Did DOOM get cracked? Sounded to me like people were giving up on it.

I ended up buying it. Single player was good. Multiplayer is nothing special.
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>>344433556

No single denuvo game since late 2015 has been cracked.

Video game piracy is dead.
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>>344433285
>Game doesn't have Denuvo
>"Day 1 pirate"

>Game has Denuvo
>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
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>>344434618
>having this little self control
That person didn't deserve to have that money in the first place.
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Did Diablo 3 ever get cracked?
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>>344435137

It was cracked for singleplayer offline, same with shit like sim city.

But then again
>caring about diablo 3.
>ever.

The issue with D3 wasn't any kind of copyright protection program that costs a billion dollars to license, but oldfashioned forced online.
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>>344435137
Not sure but you can Pirate it and play it SP on PS3 and 360.
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>>344431294
>>344433127
>>344433660

I wonder what makes Sonyggers so fucking autistic. Some kind of fumes from their console? Just buying Sony stuff instantly damages your brain?
After Bloodborne shilling threads died off (they lived much longer than game itself, though, huehue), plebs came up with idea of trolling ppl with Denuvo shilling
I guess that happens when you have no games to play on your gookstation 4
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>>344435446
>copyright protection program that costs a billion dollars to license

Denuvo costs 100,000 eur for a AAA dev, which is fucking nothing. The cost is recouped with less than 2000 sales.
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>>344435810

Why even pay to license it and risk pissing off everybody, when you could use a far more commonly acceptable DRM like always online, which also doesn't require outside support to keep secure?
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>>344431294

BUT IT'S UNCRACKABLE
THOSE PAST CRACKS WEREN'T REAL CRACKS THEY WERE JUST EXPLOITS
THEY'VE BEEN PATCHED
THE NEXT VERSION IS UNCRACKABLE(TM)!
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>>344437263
>risk pissing off everybody
Literally nobody even knows what Denuvo is. The only people that get pissed are a tiny minority of forum dwellers and pirates that wouldn't buy the game anyways.
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If Denuvo is so good, how come there is no demonstrable evidence that it boosts sales of games using it?
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>>344437737
because people pirate games as a demo to see if they like it, and if they do they'll buy it. but no demo(pirate) then no buy

atleast this is what pirates told me
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>>344437737

The evidence is no publisher is stopping to use Denuvo after they use it once.
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>>344437737
Because there are other games to pirate that don't use it.
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>>344434618
You mean
>It's been 8 months
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>>344437737
>how come there is no demonstrable evidence that it boosts sales
Because it doesn't. All Denuvo games sold like shit. Like utterly depressing sales numbers.
New Hitman for example, sold like 250k. Rise of Buttraider sold like 2 mil, just cause 3 1 mil. Just shit sales after shit sales.
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>>344437737

It doesn't boost sales, much like starforce before it. No one likes it when devs put a literal lock on games. It's insulting.

But people are used to less obvious locks, like always online, steam, and origin, so those are largely okay in the public's eye.
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>>344438207

That is not evidence.

Evidence would be sales increasing for games that use Denuvo. To date every game that has used Denuvo and has been a sequel to a game that didn't use it has not outsold the older games in the series.

FIFA is by far the best example. It sells almost the same every single year, and the most recent one which used Denuvo sold the exact same amount as every other FIFA game. Wasn't Denuvo suppose to boost sales? Because it sure didn't with FIFA.
Infact, one could say EA literally wasted money using Denuvo, and if they'd simply not used it FIFA would have been more profitable for them.

Denuvo is literally losing developers/publishers money when they use it. They're paying lots of money for nothing.
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>>344435803
>read a simple fact
>explode with rage
Dude
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>>344438445

Its been almost 11 months b t w.

By the time it hit 1st of september, Denuvo will be literally 1 year Uncrackable.
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>>344438509
>sales in the millions
>shit sales for a pc game

What are you smoking?
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>>344438669

So why they still dont ditch denuvo & instead more & more publishers (even the indie ones) is using denuvo ?

Answer me that question.
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>>344431294
Yeah you're wrong op, and ?
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>>344438669
Total War Warhammer is the fastest selling Total War game
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>>344431294
>OP
wrong, so wrong
sage these retarded threads you fucking faggots, I'm tired of seeing this shit
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>>344434618
>t. Redditor from /r/crackstatus
No one on this website will actually buy a shitty denuvo game because there isn't any crack.
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>>344438795

Probably because they've paid to use it for the next x many years and since they've paid to use it, they may as well.

Alternatively, publishers have been trying to convince us piracy is bad for decades now and how it's literally killing everything and going to cause the death of every relevant industry. Yet these same industries piracy is killing are increasing on a yearly basis.
Publishers have been spouting this shit for so long they actually believe it now.
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>mfw lefty manbaby leeches driven to delusion
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Denuvo offers a useful tool for the developers because it removes one variable that couldn't be kept track of.

Which is pretty cool. If a game sales poorly its down to advertisement or game quality. And if the marketing budget is already bloated, they will understand finally its because of poor quality.
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>>344439007
Do you think publishers care what forum the customers they gain with denuvo browse?
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>>344437487
bullshit, I would've bought Doom if it didn't had that anti consumer mod-breaking shit on it
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>>344439103

They just want to makes pirates BTFO without affecting sales, thats all.
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>>344438982

An incredibly niche series expanded it's audience by basing their game off of something that has millions of fans. Of course it was going to sell better, before it was "Total War who cares", now it's "Total War Warhammer" and got access to the huge Warhammer fan base.

That isn't Denuvos doing. That is the developers expanding their fanbase.
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>>344439225
t. forum dweller
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>>344439203
cuckolds from reddit piracy boards are less numerous than even faggots on /v/.
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>>344438717

11MONTHS
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>>344439332

But they are literally paying a lot of money to do this. Paying huge sums of money for literally no return seems like a bad business move to me.
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>>344435803
It's the same sad cunt in all of these denuvo threads.
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Anti-piracy measures are needed because without them software would lose its value. You can argue that cops aren't needed in a small peaceful town, but chaos and lawlessness would grow without the arm of the law; piracy is the same.
You guys talk like every single game before Denuvo was free to play and things like "cracks" weren't needed.
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I'm not sure who is more pathetic the denuvo shills or the people who get baited
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>>344438795

Indie devs don't have the 100k+ dollars on hand to license this shit. They just put their game on steam straight away instead.

It's a far more effective system, anyway, and you only have to pay Gaben any money if you actually make money.
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>>344434872
>having this little self control
virgin detected
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>>344439196
This.
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Not gonna lie I was pretty disappointed when I couldn't pirate the new Doom.

But I'm sure as fuck not going to buy it. Maybe when it hits the bargain bin.
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>>344439501

100k Dollars means nothing to those publishers.
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>>344434618
>"Day 1 pirate"
Yes, but everytime I like a game, I buy it afterwards. This was the case witch Cities Skylines. I tried it out, played with it around 2-3 hours and bought it immediately. However I dodged many-many bullets with pirating.

>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
I bought Total War: Warhammer because of this. I wanted to like it, but it was shit. I wasted 60 yuros on it and promised myself, that I'll never buy a game again I can't try out before.
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>>344433127
>Bronco dont want to release his crack.
sounds like he's just making shit up for fame then
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>>344439365

This in the wake up GW themselves killing the old world and warhammer fantasy.

There likely isn't gonna be any new real warhammer games, a fact that people on places like warseer and BOLS took note of, and decided to buy total warhammer instead of some OOP tomb kings.
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>>344439704
If that reddit thread was true, then Denuvo has different fees depending on the game, developer and publisher. They don't ask $100k to everyone.
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>>344439704

Its been confirmed that 100k dollars are for AAA publishers only.

For indies, it ranges from 1000 dollars to 20000 dollars depending on the game.
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Post proof of Denuvo only costing $100k for an AAA release or fuck off.

It probably costs a percentage of all sales. Not a flat fee.

>inb4 some retard posts that story about some guy pretending to be an indie dev asking denuvo what it would cost to put denuvo on his game
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>>344439225
Congratulations, you're part of the tiny minority.
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>>344439196
No big publisher will ever admit to having poor quality. They'll find something to blame poor sales on no matter what. At the moment it's piracy, previously it was used-game/second-hand sales, next it'll be entitled consumers or developers not living up to 'company standards'.

The buck will always be passed.
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>>344440017

those le reddit post is legit.
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>>344440000
Checked.
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It's simple, if you don't pay for it, you don't deserve the entertainment.
Don't know if you'll enjoy it? Find another hobby.

I wonder why pirates always fail to grasp this simple conce-
>waaah I want free stuff!!!
right, they're immature babies. That does explain it.
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>>344439835

I cannot find any actual information on how much it costs to use Denuvo except for one post by a random person on gamefaqs. Which is hardly a reputable or valid source.
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>>344440104
>those le reddit post is legit.
unless it was confirmed by a Denuvo rep then no, it isn't.
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>>344440000
>THOSE NUMBERS

NICE
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>>344440000
Nice get
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>>344440000
wew
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If I were a game developer, I'm sure as hell I would use Denuvo with my game. I wouldn't want people to play for free something I had to invest money, resources and time to create, and I would know for real if the thing was good enough to sell or not.
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>>344440000
>00
Nice dubs
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>>344440000
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>>344440000
That explains why some indie games are using it.
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>>344435803
>Consolewar bait in DENUVO thread
How much does EA pay you to deflect these threads?
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>>344440265

But putting the game on steam, origin, or always online costs 0 dollars, whereas using a DRM company to provide a middleware DRM solution costs X money, and X is always more than 0.

So you'd not be using it.
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>>344431470
>he actually believed Russians.
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>>344435803

it's a small group of shitlords trying to paint PS4 owners as stereotypical manchildren
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>>344438737
Just Cause 2 sold more than 3 million
First Tomb Raider sold 4.5 milion
Last Hitman sold almost 3 million

Those Denuvo sequels sale numbers are not acceptable at all. What are YOU smoking?
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>>344440175

Check it yourself then.

Those Denuvo rep are literally answers everything.
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>>344440716
Burden of proof on you.
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>>344432283
This.
Publishers just want the early release sales to be secured. It doesn't have to be uncracked forever, it just needs to last at least 1-2 weeks for each big title.
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>>344440616

Shit games = Shit sales

Simple.
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>mfw haven't pirated a single game in almost 6 years
get a job
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>>344440774

Search "Denuvo Employee" on r/crackstatus.

Too lazy to search it on there since those subreddit is depressing as fuck.
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>>344431487
How long you going to keep telling yourself that?
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>>344431294

x64 debugger is almost here, prepare for glory
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>>344438982
>fastest selling
>equaling best selling
"no"
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>>344440829
>Shit games = shit sales
Do you live in fantasy world m8?
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>>344440829

This 2bh

No game ever actually failed to make money because of piracy
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>>344440919
>man claims he is denuvo employee
>suddenly everyone believes him

i work for denuvo and it costs 10% of every sale to use it
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>>344440616
>Three-six years old games have more sales than a games released a few months ago

Are you stupid?
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>>344440616
>Just Cause 2 sold more than 3 million
In the same span of time while never dropping below $40? Or were most of those sales over 6 years when the game has been sold for $2.25? The same for the other two. This is such a disingenuous comparison and you know it.
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>>344434618
>>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
This could actually be the case if as a hobby playing video games suffered from scarcity, but that isn't the case. There are so many games available (and some are good for hundreds of hours or even more) that you should never actually find yourself in a situation where you don't have anything to play if you don't buy the latest AAA shit-looking game that features Denuvo.

If the game looks like shit and you can't try it out to see for yourself, then you play something else until you CAN try it out or it becomes cheap enough for its apparent quality.
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>>344434872
>being this poor
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>>344440949
The game has been out for 2 months and you expect it to outsell games that have been on sale for years? Are you retarded?
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>>344441110

We already know games get like 90% of their sales in the first month. We've known this for a long time now.
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>>344441147
Everything about these threads is disingenuous. No surprise there.
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>>344438509
>What is Total War Warhammer
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>>344441110
>comparing a sequel to it's prequel isn't allowed when Denuvo is involved
Oh i see, must i compare it to what then? Witcher 3 sales? Call of Duty? Maybe some game released yesterday?
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>>344441215
Just because there are a lot of games available, doesn't mean someone can't have a particular game they really, really want to play.
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FACTS:
A good game will sell regardless of being protected or not.
A shit game will not sell regardless of being protected or not.

The only change here is pirates not being able to play the game or not depending on the protection scheme.
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>>344441378
Show the numbers please, bring the others from the series while you're at it. I'm sure it'll wreck them now that it has Denuvo.
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>>344441086

>Being this denial while its literally 100% confirmed by Denuvo empolyee.

Suit yourself if you dont want to believe that.
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>>344437412
What's your point?
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>>344441296
Do you have Just Cause 2's first month's sales figures?
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>>344441519
>implying that was a Denuvo employee and not someone pretending to be one
okay.

so like i said, it's bullshit. no one actually knows how much it costs to use it.
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>>344441419
Yes, people often make shit, impulsive decisions because they don't use their head, true enough.
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>>344441497
>A shit game will not sell
>EA Battlefront, 17 million sales
>Final Fantasy XIII, 7 million sales
>Diablo IIII, most preordered game of all time
Keep believing that shit games don't sell my friend...
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>>344431294
congrats on selling something that does nothing else than filling your own pockets, Denuvo

that alone is quite a feat
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>>344441595

Square reported it sold 1.4 million in it's first week.
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>>344440802
We're looking at years, and only for the best games. Nobody has time to crack a game for free for a game that had security code custom written into its program.
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>>344441817
On PC alone or with consoles included?
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Denuvo made me buy Total War Warhammer. I don't regret it. I'm glad I can pirate all the DLC at least.
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>>344441643

>0.5 sec reddit search later...

Here. Read it carefully & dont miss even a single word.

reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4mtb46/conversation_with_a_denuvo_employee/
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>>344441817

In comparison, Just Cause 3 sold about 840k in it's first week.

>>344441942

All platforms for both.
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>>344441817
Do you have an actual source?
How many of those were PC sales?
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>>344431294

Tons of games that use denuvo have been cracked, it's just a matter of patience.
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>>344441736
Then you should take a look at for example Far Cry: Primal. No one talks about that game, but according to steamspy, only around 200.000 people bought it on Steam. Obviously the total numbers are a bit higher because of uPlay, but I don't think that it sold so well.. and it was a very shitty game.

>>344441946
>I'm glad I can pirate all the DLC at least.
Is this true?
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Both games are new IPs.
Both games are attempts to plagiarize two popular games (Dark Souls, The Witcher).
One uses Denuvo. The other doesn't.
Note how piracy had no impact on how the public saw both games.

The funny thing is, the Denuvo protected one sold enough to get a sequel greenlited.
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>>344442020

You could google it.

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/pdf/20101104_01en.pdf

“JUST CAUSE 2” 0.56 million units (JPN: 0.05, NA: 0.26, EU: 0.25)
5 SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS CO., LTD.
* 0.92 million units sold in NA and EU in FYE March 2010, 1.48 million units in total
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>>344433127
>bronco
>mkdev

>I have this crack! Ha! Of course I do!
>N-no no, I won't release it!
>It was easy to crack of course i just wanted to try how hard it was, this wasn't even a challenge!
>No I just did it to observe what Denuvo will do!

Pathetic if you ask me.
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>>344442164

>Tons

Only 4 Denuvo games cracked (by loophole which is been fixed)

And 20+ Denuvo games uncrackable
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>>344441947
>I pretended to be a game dev post
Like I said: it's bullshit and not a valid source.
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>>344434618
It does not work that way though.
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>>344442012
Then that only proves that Just Cause 3 wasn't as good received that 2, not that Denuvo made the sales magically drop.
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>>344441278
are you? can you please tell me where in the english language fastest selling is the same concept as best selling?

alternatively when you're done rubbing two brain cells together you can point me to where they provide a number other than the 500k one
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>>344442213
A good game can sell like shit, a bad game can sell like shit, a good game can sell well, a shit game can sell well.
We don't live in an Utopia where quality translate into sales. I'm sorry to drop reality on your face.
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>>344440519
And having people playing the game for free? fuck that.
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>>344442301
>You could google it.
You could provide evidence for your claims, before someone asks for it.
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>>344441736
The entire point of the bland AAA industry lately is that it sells on their core audience, naturally, and pure hype. The hype generated brings in the wider audience that will buy the game on impulse and due to marketing, but not play it very long/finish the game. Thus they want a preventative measure in place to guarantee those initial sales before people come to a general consensus on the quality of a game.

It's the same reason films have review embargoes; if the embargo is lifted the day of release then you know the company has no faith in it and it will probably be a shitty movie. A good movie will have the faith of the company and a very limited embargo; a good game will stand on its own and sell well without the need for DRM.
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>>344431294
>>Nothing is Uncrackbale
That is true you dumb shit. The question is it worth the time to crack it? Everything can be brute force at the very minimum
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>>344442434
Denuvo didn't made it magically go up as well. So tell me, what's it for?
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>>344440265
>I would know for real if the thing was good enough to sell or not.
That is a common assumption of peddlers of shit games.
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>>344442364

No person who makes that much of effort just to troll. Especially from someone who have a rep from that subreddit.

Look the image proof.
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>>344442609
Guarantees that only paying customers have access to the game. Something every software company worth its salt does (or tries to do).
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>>344442636
You're doing the same thing right now.

Also, work on your English. You're very obvious.
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>>344442636
>implying that it would be hard to fake what he did
Maybe I should fake it so I can retire this shitty Reddit meme.
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>>344433127
>Bronco dont want to release his crack

just like that chink that "cracked" it a while back who ended up lying about it?
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>>344442434

It also shows Denuvo has no effect on sales.

Literally every game that has used Denuvo and been a sequel has not has an increase in sales over past games in the series that didn't use Denuvo.

FIFA is by far the best example. It sells about 6 million every year. Has for like a decade now. Want to know how much FIFA 16 sold (that uses Denuvo)? About 6 million.

Infact, one could argue that Denuvo is decreasing sales because most games using Denuvo are selling worse than other games that didn't use it (within the same series). There could obviously be many reasons for this, but a trend is starting to emerge and that trend is use Denuvo and get worse sales.

Denuvo has no demonstrable effect on sales. So why bother using it when using it costs money?
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>>344431294
>Nothing is Uncrackable
True and Denuvo knows that too. Their goal is not to be uncrackable but merely to be uncracked for about the first 2 weeks of release.
The impatient kids who want the game on day 1 - that's all Denuvo needs to be profitable.
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>>344441296
On consoles- PC sales are long term affairs, but three years is a bit long for this argument.
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>>344439556
this.

cracks and DRM existed before denuvo, the only difference is that denuvo has proven that they really do have the strongest DRM to deter piracy.
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>>344442796
>>344442812

You actually believed it.

But you just dont want to accept it & instead judging my grammar ;)
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>>344440000
The one thing I don't understand is, do I as a dev care? What I mean is, what numbers and statistics can they come up with to actually tell me that paying them 5k (or whatever) for their software will net me more profits.

Asking as someone actually attempting to make shit.

If they came and proved to me that by giving them 5k USD I would get an extra 25k, I see no reason not to take it. But they can't, can they? If they simply told me "w-well it can't be pirated!", it seems kinda pointless. From what I can remember, Denuvo games didn't have anything special. MGSV sold a fuckton as expected, but the others weren't particularly good.
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>>344442780
>Guarantees
You know that it cost resources right? So you're investing your business resources in a solution which grants no monetary gains for your business?
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>>344442858
Because you can't have your software unprotected. If you don't do that there's going to be a point where no one will want to pay for it.
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>>344443112
Having a lock in your car doesn't make it go faster and costs money.
Would you keep your car without a lock?
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>>344442249
LoF is getting a sequel?

i hope so, because it was at least playable compared to the garbage that Technomancer was
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>>344431294
What I find most delightful in life are these absurdistic things that happen to the status quo.

All of you were going with the idea of "well they will always be cracked, because durrr hurrr piracy, hurrr durr morals, durrr hurrr ppl ur smurt, hurrr durr hackers and muh socialism"

and then the improbably happened, piracy was actually made impossible. Now you guys are the ones with the shoe on the other foot. Just like the devs who were saying that before. You guys are now the party who will get shit upon.

The status quo was changed once more and I find it to be glorious. I have already accepted this reality and I am fighting all of your damage control and processing of this reality to be very delightful.

Its probably even more delightful than the games that I am missing now because of denuvo. Well who cares, I enjoy them a lot less lately anyhow.
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>>344443136

Plenty of games with no DRM at all have sold amazingly well.

Infact, the GOTY last year didn't even use DRM.
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>>344443278
Yes.
I personally liked the game, but I'm not very optimistic about the sequel; the publisher fired the original developers to make the sequel themselves.
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>>344431294
All that is available is a bypass that requires you to obtain a ticket from a legitimate copy (must have access to the Steam account that owns the game). Thus, unless you have the proper credentials to an account with the game, the bypass simply won't work. Pretty fucking pointless if you ask me.
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>>344443334
Bloodborne doesn't need DRM because it's a console exclusive.
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>>344434618
Why do I have more than 100 games in my Steam library? And I'm a relative poorfag who doesn't even play games that much.
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>>344443272
>comparing a game with a car
Took you what? 2 replies? Should i just drop Neil Gaiman video and end this discussion with you rebutting to it?
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>>344443550

Good joke, but we both know I was talking about the real GOTY.
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>>344443779
So, can I go to CDProjekt.com and download The Witcher 3 just like that?
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>>344441497
>"B-but, but, we'll earn a few more sales from people who otherwise might not have bought it!"
>also lose sales from people who are opposed to Denuvo or would have played it and bought it afterwards once they knew it was good
All the counter-arguments are utter shit, and I look forward to the day when Denuvo is cracked so these pathetic shills can stop making these circlejerk threads
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>>344443845

No, but you can go to piratebay and download it just like that.
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this seems like an interesting scene to get into, if anything for the challenge of reverse engineering protection software
Is there an entry point somewhere in english ?
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>>344443861
Well its their product, they are entitled to do as they want with it. Who are we, a bunch of pirate, free loading losers to say anything else about it.

Let them get their stats, let the market work, let them make demo's again. It will be a good experiment.
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>>344443845
>no DRM means giving games for free
Someone lives near thisa anon? Bad things needs to happen to him right now.
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>>344443920
No no no no no.
Those are cracked copies.
You claim that TW3 doesn't use DRM. That means that I can go to the developer's website, download and install it without paying a single cent. Right?
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>>344444123
It's not cracked you retard. There's no DRM, there's no need to crack it.
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>>344444123
You just need to pay to get the download link, dingus. What you download from GOG is just the same you can download from TPB
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>>344444123
>DRM = free

Why be an intentional assfaggot?
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>>344442448
I don't think you know what best selling means. Fastest selling is the only fair measure.
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>>344444354
Then it means that you're supposed to pay for the game.
DRM or not, you're still doing something illegal.
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>>344444123
oh boy
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>>344444123
No drm doesn't mean free you obtuse retard
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>>344444123
Just because something doesn't use DRM does not mean its free you faggot.
It does not have any "locks" it doesn't require crack, the version you download on GOG does not differ one bit with the version you download from Torrents.
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>>344441736
actual shit, not the "I hate it because I am on /v/" shit
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>>344444797
>you're still doing something illegal.
and who the fuck cares?
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>>344444797
And CDProjekt is making millions.
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>>344445064
So, it's ok for me to download the GOG version? Can I ask for support with the developer if my TPB copy doesn't work?
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>>344439872
>warhammer was shit
what a fucking terrible opinion you faggot.
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>>344442249
>PS4 version of game A vs PC version of game B
>Games with completely different publishers and marketing
>le every game is dark souls maymay xD
>This two year old game could get a sequel, but this one that's barely a week old hasn't gotten a sequel yet!

Thanks for the mildly retarded, completely useless post, broski
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>>344442734
>No person who makes that much of effort just to troll.
Is this your first week on the internet?
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>>344441514
It's the second highest selling game, I'm fairly certain they have that info posted on their website. It's also the fastest selling game.
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i cracked denuvo on my computer.
i'm not gonna release it tho, because there's a Sony van is outside my house.
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>>344431294
Just cause 3 cracked
Farcry 4 cracked
Womb Raider cracked

Etc

Stay mad console peasant
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>>344445378
No idea, try it. It's added to your library the sameway.
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CDPR are stupid faggots

If not for their "muh no DRM" policy I would HAVE to pay them for witcher 3

But they choose not to use denuvo so I just downloaded a torrent and enjoyed my game for free
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>>344445378
No, the fuck are you on?

No DRM can be compared to a door to a house without a lock.
Just because you can just enter there without any problems like the owner does not mean you own the house and can just go in and do whatever you want.
It's still not your house and you are there illegally but there was just nothing stopping you from entering it.

>>344445654
>cracked
You mean the ticket shit that require you to know someone who own the game to run it or the non-existent crack from bronco/mkdev who claim that they cracked it but don't want to release it?
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>>344445586
>second
Oh, how sad. The Denuvo didn't helped them.
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>>344445378
What are you even trying to do or say?

It's obvious you come from elsewhere. You have to go back.
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literally uncrackable.

thank you for killing the video game business, denuvo. idiots. how are those sales?
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>It's another, "I don't even have a fraction of the information available to publishers, and haven't spent a penny researching piracy's effects on the industry as opposed to their millions, but DRM is pointless according to the accredited source My Ass" episode
I love these episodes. They're always so funny.
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I don't know why /v/ is so angry about Denuvo.

Aren't all modern games shit?
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denuovo isnt the only one that's uncrackable

windows 10 store games like gears is uncrackable
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>>344434618
I have 800+ games and haven't bought a single one with hard DRM like Denuvo.
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>>344445490
>le every game is dark souls maymay xD

Learn to read. He called Lords of the Fallen a Dark Souls rip off and The Technomancer a Witcher rip off. Unless you are insinuating that LotF is somehow not a souls ripoff, which is blatantly incorrect.
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>>344445554

Keep on Denial anon ;)
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>>344445875
>I don't know why /v/ is so angry about Denuvo.
A large majority of /v/ has no disposable income. Either because they're underage or NEET. It's literally just a case of sour grapes.
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>>344445473
>what a fucking terrible opinion you faggot.
No it's not. It is really a bad and boring game.
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>>344445817
My point is, everyone claims that a game not having a DRM system like Denuvo makes pirating them ok.
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>>344445654

Can i borrow your time machine ?
Or maybe you're on different universe where Denuvo is cracked ease as pie.
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>>344439129
>lefty
I yearn for the times when videogames didn't cost 60 fucking dollars for 2 hour showcase demo.
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>>344446067
No, he's right. You have really shitty taste.
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>>344445875
I'm 60% through Firewatch and it's pretty good, though overpriced.
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>>344446016
kys
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>>344446141
It's not "okay", it's irrelevant.
Pirates are not a target group for sales.
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I cracked this shit but I'm not releasing it because I want to continue playing games for free instead of seeing it patched
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>>344446395
>Pirates are not a target group for sales.
As one of many many people who only buy a game if it's MP or uncracked, you're talking out of your ass.
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>>344431294

Denuvo 2.0 hasn't been cracked, yet. The last one wasn't cracked either (just bypassed). They keep updating it.

Its literally over guys. Tomb Raider Rising is like 2 years old. still no crack in sight.
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denuvo isn't really that hard to crack, they just gave all the decent teams jobs so now we get to rely on slavs throwing potatoes at the code until they get enough vodka to squat on the encryption
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>>344446585
Those are people who wanna play multiplayer games. How old are you buddy? Piracy exists since humanity created digital goods. Look around you, no apocalypse. Piracy is irrelevant, music business threw a fit agianst it, learned that isn't worth it. Movie business threw a fit against it, learned that it isn't worth it. Videogames are the infants that actually already passed the phase of throwing a fit about it, but there are some who still holds dear the idea they can make money fighting piracy.
Been there, done that. You'll learn with time.
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There are only two valid complains about Denuvo (and to be fair they're tow big ones):
>A third party software hogging resources from your machine
>A third party software being required for you to access your games so the very moment a publisher tanks the game you paid for is lost forever.
Those two are a legit reason for a paying customer to refuse to buy a Denuvo-protected game

Any other complains come from mad pirates asspained that they can't steal software anymore.
The funniest one is "they wasted money licensing some DRM software!"
Why do you care? are you a shareholder? are you working with the developers
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i think its an internet thing. there hasn't been a 'uncrackable' drm thing in a while. used to see this shit all the time in magazines, online articles, word to mouth. but now the internet is so big, its easier to make a giant deal out of something that really isnt. its not like denuvo has a 100% rate, its been circumvented.

w/e. get mad at something thats been said for the last 20 years.
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>>344447024
>Piracy is irrelevant, music business threw a fit agianst it, learned that isn't worth it. Movie business threw a fit against it, learned that it isn't worth it.
And they're still throwing a fit against it, because it's still hurting their sales. It's like you're too retarded to remember SOPA, PIPA, and the hundreds of lawsuits they file every year.
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It's not that this is a technical impossibility but a lack of motivation and manpower.

Many more people buy games and the old pirate disc selling market has shrunk dramatically so there's very little monetary and rep incentive for cracking games now.
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>>344447168
>A third party software hogging resources from your machine
This has been proven false a hundred times. Denuvo doesn't read/write any data.

>A third party software being required for you to access your games so the very moment a publisher tanks the game you paid for is lost forever.
A very real concern. Since Denuvo only works through Steam you'd hope they signed off on something in the contract that allows Steam to remove the Denuvo activation, but nobody but them knows that.
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>>344446141
No one said that you utter cretin. They simply said Witcher 3 lacks DRM you dumb nigger.
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>>344438014
>>344438014

It's how I started pirating games.

The death of demo-disks did it for me.

I haven't bought a game since Denuvo's bullshit, but that's also because the triple A landscape has been dominated by like 6 fucking franchises.

There ain't' shit for diversity in vidya now a days.

Or it's some Indie Smorgus board.

I've enjoyed a couple Indie games, but by and large that's been a bandaid on a growing sore.
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i just want to play tomb raider
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>>344448072
The funny thing is, thanks to the internet it's possible for even console games to have demos.
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Why are piratefags literally the GIBS ME DAT of video games?

You stop getting your free luxury goods, you chimp the fuck out, and go on an internet crusade about how you're entitled to free luxury goods. It's really sad.
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>>344447558
No such thing as a lost sale.
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I love that so many PC poors have to watch from the sidelines while normal people with money get to enjoy new games.
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>>344447558
>piracy hurting sales
[citation needed]
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>>344448193
Buy it.
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>>344448339
>>344448339

There's still been very little that's legitimately interested me over the years.

Too much of a focus on money maker titles, not enough innovation overall.
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>>344448482
It was never about increasing sales. Poor people don't deserve to join in on this hobby.
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>denuvo isn't really that hard to crack, they just gave all the decent teams jobs
>>344446721
This. Honestly, it sounds like denuvo is giving these crack teams a percentage of every sale made. And since 3dm stated that they will be taking a hiatus for about a year I think it is safe to say that this contract that denuvo has with the crack teams will last about a year.
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>>344434618
I haven't purchased a Denuvo game yet.
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>>344448512
'no'
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If pirates are better customers than regular payers, then why commercial games still exist?
Wouldn't be easier for every game to be downloadable directly from the developer, having an in-game "donate now" button?
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>>344448650
Haha, you haven't played Inside.

Go play The Witcher 3 for the fifth time.
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>indie games starting to use denuvo
>would have actually bought Inside if it was reasonably priced
>instead it's double the price now because of the expensive drm
Time to play the refund game I guess, what a shame
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>>344448380
>not wanting free luxury goods
What the fuck is wrong with you, anon? You don't want to improve your standing in life? You don't want to live in opulence and not have to work for it?
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>>344448586
Do you cry yourself to sleep thinking about it?
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>>344448675
Yes
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>piratefags getting btfo
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>>344447168
You forgot about it killing the modding potential for a game
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>>344448452
>>344448482
There's plenty of research out there you can look up. Here, I'll spoon feed you both since you're obviously retarded. You might want to get familiar with this site before you go to college. https://scholar.google.com

And just from personal experience, yes, it does. I loved The Witcher 3, but I never paid for it because I can get it literally for free. I loved the demo of DOOM, and bought it because I couldn't get it for free. I have dozens of pirated blu-rays in my collection I surely would have bought if there were some means to enforce me to.

I get you guys are upset you aren't getting free shit, I am too, but just say it. When you make shit up trying to defend it while demonizing companies trying to protect their digital goods it's just pathetic.
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>>344448943
No, I giggle my motherfucking ass off.
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>>344448932
I do, Anon. I just don't feel entitled to free shit. If I can get it, awesome. If I cant, fuck it, I have a job and can support my hobbies.

see >>344449230
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>>344449150
You're right. Total War Warhammer only has 1,223 mods. Modding is dead.
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has anyone used antidenuvo
thinking of trying it for a game or two
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>>344449570
No.
That thing looks like a huge scam.
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>>344449570
It's fine, but really not worth it if you want to hold on to the games. The ruskie will cut you off the family sharing at some point to replace you with a new customer. For me it was about a week.
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>>344449748
Oh boy
Don't tell me the mighty "anti-denuvo" thing everyone bragged so much was just a group of russians taking advantage of Steam's family sharing.
I thought it was a legit crack.
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>>344449230
Agreed.
Not being able to get shit for free fucking sucks, but I can't blame companies for trying to protect their investment.
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>>344449748
Antidenuvo isn't family sharing, it's an offline installation. You can't go online with that steam installation, and also can't update the game, but it should work indefinitely as long as you don't go online
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>>344449523
Now look at Doom 2016
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>>344450149
It was family sharing for me. I was online for around a week before I got cut off.

I guess I got a bad ruskie.
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>>344450489
I guess it depends on the game, some games may not allow offline play at all
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>>344450370
That has nothing to do with Denuvo, but with Bethesda not releasing any modding tools.
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>>344450370
Now look at Just Cause 3. 179 mods on the first google result alone.
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>>344440265
I am a game developer and if your game is good and people steal it that means there is at least interest and you have a chance of actually making money.
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>>344431294

Only game with Denuvo that I've wanted recently was DOOM which I bought.

Denuvo is so late to the party. Nearly nothing is worth playing anymore single-player wise that I'd ever have a desire to pirate.
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>>344431294
>I Capitalize Like A Retard
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>>344450836
DOOM and Warhammer have fortunately been the only Denuvo games worth even playing.

That'll definitely change though. More and more publishers are going to jump on board.
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>>344431294
>go to steam store
>look at game
>see denuvo
>immediately back out
>give my money to a different company

it's not hard.
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