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Dark Souls ripped off Berserk wholesale
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=190&v=l-uuR9B1gjQ

really makes you think...
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>>344270863
Old ass video lad
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>>344270863
think about what?

themes that were bought up 9 years ago?

I'd post slowpoke but I thought people like you couldn't afford an internet connection after the housing crash
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>>344270863
this might be the slowest slowpoke I've ever seen.

Next you're going to tell me that persona 3 was heavily influenced by Jojo.
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>>344270912
>>344271120
>>344271154
so you don't refute it?
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>>344270863
If anything DeS ripped off Berserk more.

But you wouldn't know, you're probably to young to remember.
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>>344271256
You've done it OP, you've finally given those soulsbabies their what for.
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Those are homages. For Berserk plagiarism, see Testuya Nomura.
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>>344271392
How so? The only reference I can think of in DeS is the Dragon Bone Smasher
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I would say Dark Souls was inspired by Berserk, heavily in some instances and some things were blatant rip-offs, but this video does a shit job of showcasing them.
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>>344271609
The burning lizards, prisoner horde, 3-1 is pretty close to the place where Griffith was tortured. Arguably I would say that DeS's monsters are more Berserk-like than the ones in DaS.

There was this chart comparing those two, but I can't find it.
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>>344271560
What did he plagiarize?
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>>344271609
Well there was this.
Not like it matters though.
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>>344271256
what's there to refute? every nigger on the planet knows this. this is neither news nor do people care.
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>>344272312
>Game Maker has to outsource his creativity from several mangas because he can't think for himself
wew lad
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What next, you're gonna point out JoJo references in japanese games?
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>>344272312
i'll give you most of these, but
>berserk invented iron maidens
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>>344272312
>berzerk invented hanging cages, iron maidens, fire salamanders, dead babies and legion, all of which don't even look anything alike
I guess western mythology was just one big Berzerk rip-off all along
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>>344272584
Are you blind or do you not see how it's an exact copy of the design used in DS. Nobody's implying they're a unique invention either.
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>>344270863
STOP REMINDING ME ABOUT THAT SHITTY FUCKING ANIME
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>>344272584
Not the concept, but they look almost identical.
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Why is Berserk so shitty now
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>>344272734
You know what else does it copy? First page google results for iron maiden.
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>>344272734
that's how these things used to look. visit a museum once in a while
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no it did not.

/thread
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>>344272312
Some of those are just medieval torture machines which weren't invented by Berserk either.

and desu pretty much all of Dark Souls has been seen in Western fantasy in some form or another, there's very little elements in it that are completely original to the core. Playing it reminded me of reading fantasy books and P&P RPGs as a kid more than Berserk. And that's alright because it's executed so well. And Berserk draws heavily from it as well.

Sometimes /v/ reads way too much Berserk and way too little... everything else.
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I'm starting to suspect top gear is copying initial d
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>>344272818
>>344272858
APOLOGIZE
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>we got inspiration from berserk to make DeS (old as review)
>HURR RIPED OFF HURR SHIT DEVELOPER
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>>344270863
Look up the word "hommage". I know it's a hard one, but you can do it.
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>>344272934
paying even a little attention is history class would have helped already. i've met people on here that think iron maiden were actually used
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>>344272858
because you think any anime will do justice to a manga
tldr : you are a fucking retard
if you mean the manga because long waits during each chapter its fucking annoying
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>>344273147
>le mango is always superior
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Hmm neat I always wondered what inspired a lot of dark souls. beserk always looked cool I will have to check it out one of these days.
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>>344273147
>>344273212
Adaptations rarely do justice to the source material. More news at 11.
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>>344270863
>Itt OP wakes up after his 30 years of slumber and points out the obvious
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>>344273334
theres not doing justice and then there is pissing all over the corpse of the long dead source material
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>>344273212
>reading is for nerds , i only watch movies and anime
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>>344270863
You're really slow OP, everyone and their mother knows Dark Souls is heavily inspired from Berserk, it's been a known fact for quite a while now.
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>>344273401
Well yeah, there's also that.
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No shit
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>>344272950
I'M SORRY I ASKED FOR A BERSERK ANIME I'M SO SORRY
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>>344272818
QUALITY
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>>344273212
There are certain anime that are better than their manga counterparts sure, mainly anime originals but the Berserk manga is objectively superior than all the various adaptations.
Not only does all the anime adaptations cover very little of the manga, but just about all of them are mediocre, and the one everyone knows, the 90's anime, all the action is just *swing* *static image of contact* *image spirals outward and is replayed 3 times* you may as well just Bon your head back and forth from the manga and tilt the book.
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>>344270863
Dragons Dogma ripped berserk off too. They even hired the berserk artist to design monsters. Whoever owns berserker must be pisst.
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>>344273936
This. The nerds who've only seen the anime series are seriously missing out on several characters important to the plot, as well as incredibly detailed hand-written drawings. The anime itself also has fucking horrible VA, and only covers the golden age arc iirc
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>>344273551
Man in the middle is like the one enemy in Bloodborne. The one with mask.
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>>344271256
Nigger, Miyazaki has stated since Demon's Souls that he's influenced by Berserk. Nothing new here.
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>>344274128
nigga dey all have masks
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>>344270863
>griffith sword stance
I hope you are joking.
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>>344273936
that music tho
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Griffith is my waifu.
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>>344274125
The new anime conveys scenery better than the manga ever did. At the very least, nothing in it but the tree looked like a clusterfuck of crosshatching. I especially liked how you could actually tell guts was at a travern when he met isidro, compared to the manga.
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>Everyone not braindead knew since Demon's Souls how Berserk influenced the Souls games

>Now shitheads like OP pop up

/v/'s quality in on a constant, neverending downhill slope
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>>344270863
>Faggot tries to shitpost
>everyone laughs at him
Im proud /v/-kun
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>>344270863
>newfag that probably didn't know about Berserk's existence until the new anime
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>>344270863
the fact that this is somehow news to you make me feel sad.

you have to be 18 to post here anon
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>>344270863

b-b-but it's paying homage! miyazaki said he doesn't even read berserk! he based the whole franchise on Sorcery! books! f-fuck off haha
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>>344270863
it's an homage m8.

and thanks to DaS berserk's recognition grew about 500% and now they have their own vidya coming out.
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Is it a "ripoff" if they're blatantly in-your-face about it and never even try to deny the similarities? I mean, there's this thing called homage
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>>344270863
MIYAZAKI IS A HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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>>344274876
well the difference when they told you
>we got inspiration from X thing
>yea we got inspiration from Y thing
its because at the second , they didn't expected people to call on their bullshit
half the characters of overwatch are fucking ripped off from other stuff for example
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>>344270863
I kinda wanna read berserk. how do I get into it? what is it exactly? graphic novel(s)? how big are the series (if it is a series)?
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>>344275121
Just read the manga from the beginning, it's all you need
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>>344275121
Don't get into it since it will never get finished
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>>344275121
37 volumes
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The only thing in the series that was so blatantly taken from Berserk that it bothered me was the Pontiff's dogs in DaS3 that were almost the exact same as Guts' inner demon with only their gaping chest differentiating them.
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>>344275121
334 chapters so far
just a manga dunno if a graphic novel exists
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>>344275208
why? did the author just give up or die or something? lazy?
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>>344275121
https://bakabt.me/details.php?id=162057&page=0
Download it here, a lot of people end up reading the shit scanlations because they don't know where the good ones are, but these are the best quality you can get.
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>>344275336
He's obsessed with false idols.
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>ripped off
please don't use words you don't understand
I would have agreed with dragon's dogma, but in dark souls case it was just a try toward dark fantasy and the director was influenced by berzerk, since there's no other dark fantasy material
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>>344273936
>There are certain anime that are better than their manga counterparts sure, mainly anime originals
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>>344275374
thanks m8
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>>344275336
http://skullknight.net/images/eps.htm
i would prefer a 1 chapter every 3 month thingy but since some people prefer a chapter every week and the manga turning to shit
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>>344275336
hes getting that sweet idolmaster dosh
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>>344274315
>Guts met Isidro at a tavern
WHAT
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>>344275412
Original series which later got a manga adaptation. What's so hard to understand, you nincompoop?
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I love Dark Souls but I don't enjoy Berserk. Maybe it's the rape, I'm not against it as a story device, it just makes me uncomfortable.

Or maybe I prefer the lonely world in ruins of Dark Souls.
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>>344275530
not mind , mind naming a few?
code geass is one? haven't found the manga but looked like it would be one of the cases of being better the anime
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>>344275584
It's supposed to make you uncomfortable.
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>>344275552
>http://skullknight.net/images/eps.htm
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Whatever ends up happening to Griffith? Does Guts get revenge?
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>>344271256
>>344270863
NO WAY OP?????? DID YOU NOTIFY REDDIT? THIS IS SOME FRESH INFO RIGHT HERE
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I'm pretty sure Doom ripped off Berserk
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>>344275674
read naruto if you wanted a chapter every week and see how it went to shit after 80 chapters
i prefer this way anyway
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>>344270863
Congrats OP, you've figured out what everyone's known for years.
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>>344270863
A Jap copying Berserk is like a western dev copying Tolkien.

Berserk is pretty much THE gold-standart for japanese medieval fantasy
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everyone and their mother knows it. If you realized it just now then you're just a retarded idiot
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>>344275791
how?
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>>344275647
I guess, but it was enough to turn me off
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>>344270863
Not exactly news dude.
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some of those comparisons i feel are really reaching and some of them are pretty spot on
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>>344275963
back to whatever safe space shithole you crawled out of
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>>344275552
HE'S SUPPOSED TO CHOP A NIGGA IN HALF FOR TRYING HIM
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>>344275610
ttgl
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>>344270863
Think about what? The shitty musou you're getting wouldn't be any better if DaS didn't exist.
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>>344276196
I don't need a safe space. I just didn't get into it, it's very existence does not trigger me.
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>>344275820
>i prefer waiting nearly 30 years for something to finish
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>>344274281
i want to fresh kiss griffith and swallow his baby batter.
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>>344275610
Cowboy Bebop
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>>344274195

false

he stated he was influenced by western books like Sorcery!
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>>344275552
>that shitty angles to hide the bad animations
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>>344273147
But Berserk's manga is garbage too now.
This is a prime case of a work of fiction changing along with the author. Could you seriously imaginge moe mermaids and dick-hungry loli sorceress' while reading Golden Age arc? Miura projects his own tastes onto his work and because it's been running for so many years it became extremely inconsistent terms of tone.
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>>344271256
No, which means you win guy good job; I'm so mad and you're so clever, woe is me.
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>>344270863
>Watership Down thread Nigga?
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>>344273092
Where does the line between homage and rip off end, desu senpai?
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>>344270863
>berserk invented armor, dragons, witches and all that shit

god, I fucking hate souls retards

how did the fanbase become this fucking obnoxious since DeS?
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>want to watch berserk

What's the best way to do so? Do they sell dvd of the anime?
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>>344277693
youtube or torrents

saged because thread is dead :)
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>>344276714
Wrong, the very first chapters were already introducir magic and fantasy elements, even before the golden age arc. Do i have to remind you that Puck was introduced in chapter 1?
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>>344275610
Utena for example. Really just have a look at anichart or something and search for originals.
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Dark Souls ripped off real life as well
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>>344276714
> Miura projects his own tastes onto his work

How do you think it got started?
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>>344277693

There is no best way to "watch" Berserk. Each adaptation has objectively bad things that either leave out important moments or ruin them in the process of trying to include.

Also every attempt to animate it has suffered from a horrendous budget, to the degree that even the movies were canned.

Even putting "berserk manga" into google and reading it for free with weird translations will give you a better experience.
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>>344278432
the anime was well animated specifically i mean the 1st episode, a few of the middle ones and the last 2
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>>344276421
i prefer if my favorite manga doesn't get ruined for rushing it for a bunch of shits with the patience of a 3 years old
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>>344276867
how did this meme even happen
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>>344278750
>2016
>still reading manga
>still reading period

Fuck manga man. Nothing beats actually experiencing that shit. Why you think youtube got so big? It wasn't because of reading that is for sure.
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>>344278612

Well animated for its budget. Even the first episode suffered from a case of slide show.

Berserk is a wholley unfulfilling experience in anime form.

If you have even a tinge of imagination, the manga is the gift that keeps on giving. This is especially true in the earlier arcs
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>>344278750
theres states in between 'rushed' and 'having to wait three years for a fucking chapter'
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It baffles me that a lot of the replies in this thread don't realise that "really makes you think..." is a fucking meme line that isn't meant to be taken seriously.
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>>344278940
>twas but an act
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>>344278897
thats why i said "i prefer having 6 chapters peer year"
12 would be ideal but see how that turned out
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You'd think Kentaro Miura didn't take things from outside inspiration sources just and invented it all by himself reading some comments here.

I mean, just for one, Femto's design.

That's how creation works. You manage rom you own experience bank.
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>>344278872
There's not way for me to actually experience being warped to a demon dimension, having my entire crew of battle brothers slaughtered and seeing my physical waifu being raped by my evil best friend turned demon king.
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>>344278432
There is pretty much plenty of time to finish anything and everything Berserk related before it ends too.

>>344278940
I don't know. I didn't even watch whatever the thing was on op. I just wanted a Souls/Berserk thread.
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>>344273936
>are better than their manga counterparts sure, mainly anime originals
>manga counterparts sure, mainly anime originals
>manga counterparts
>anime originals

What?
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>>344279160
Point was watching a show is better than reading shit.
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>>344278432
I've read the manga and watched the TV anime, and now I want to watch the movies? What's wrong with them, other than the CG?
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>>344279246
Not in all cases, not even in most cases
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>>344279246
sure thing pal
tell me when they release lord of the rings without 90% of the books info removed
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>>344279361
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>>344279361

If you've actually read the manga and know what's going to happen, there's no reason to really do anything else other than just being bored.

If you're bored, the movies will pass the time.
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>>344279520
>fantasia is mostly shit so far
>these fucking movies
>berserk game is a musou
>the new anime is the worst thing ever

I wish I never started reading berserk.
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gotta love how this board is shittier and shittier every day, with more and more people "ironically" acting retarded
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>>344279520
>homoerotic water fight cut

UNFORGIVABLE
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>>344279246
This is bait, right? Or are you just illiterate?
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>>344279949
To be fair some people have 0 imagination and aren't capable of creating the image of what they're reading in their head.

With manga they have 0 excuses
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>>344280036
Yeah, thats true. They have no idea how much they are missing. Like one anon said, for example the LOTR films, while really good, dont give you the feel of a ancient world with a huge history. But hey, thats what being raised by tv does to you.
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>>344280036
>With manga they have 0 excuses
I'm not that guy, but for me it's the lack of color. And I fucking love color, so I prefer anime to manga most of the time.
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>>344272503
>several
WEW LAD
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>>344280861
In general preferring one over the other is fine.
But when it comes to berserk the only adaptation that is halfway decent is the 97 anime and even that one isn't very good compared to the manga.
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>>344274128
Its a plague doctor mask
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I want miyazaki to make a soulslike berserk game based on the original manga

Would be dank as fuck
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>>344281612
>monkeypaw.jpg
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>>344281612
>soulslike
Nah man.
Even BB wasn't close enough.

I want proper momentum based combat. Souls is almost the opposite of how a berserk game should play.
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>>344282739

"Back then I was still in college, it was the day I finished the first episode of Berserk and there was "Evil Dead 2" playing at theaters. So after I mailed it to the publisher, I went to see it. It was so similar to Berserk, I was really surprised by myself. In "Evil Dead 3," I also know it as "Captain Supermarket"... the main character had his arm cut off and he had a chainsaw attached to his arm and had a shotgun on his back. I was like "What the?" Because Guts has a gun on his arm and a huge sword on his back. It was just like Ash. I remember getting worried that I might get sued. I just finished my very first cartoon, but I was already nervous."
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>>344282739
BTFO
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>>344273578
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>>344274128
jesus christ kid, stay in school. that's how european healers looked during the black plague. they thought a longer way for the air to travel before it is inhaled made bacteria and shit die off. complete BS, but hey, that was science back then
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>berserk and rip off
Wew lawd
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>>344283613
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>>344275610
A new example is kabaneri of the iron fortress
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wow its almost like creativity comes from the stuff we like and inspire us, and not from the ether
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>>344270863
to many of these are bull shit
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>>344270863
berserk rips off european fantasy themes? really makes you think.
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>>344285804
their beaks were also filled with flowers.
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>Dark souls rips off berserk

STOP THE PRESSES
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>>344286732

Then show me a jojo plagiarism picture.
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>>344287023
think you had to do that. piles of rotten corpses are certainly not a pleasant smell.
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>>344287040
Lots of shit in jojo is inspired by pop culture, fashion magazines and other manga. Part of part 6 is "Holes".

I love JoJo but it's not like all of it is 100% oc
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>>344274281
shading and positioning of the behelit is completely wrong, it should be pulled down by gravity

e heh, what? are we suppose to believe this is some sort of, heh, MAGIC behelit? i really hope someone got fired for that blunder
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>>344287385
fired for fan art?
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So just saw first episode of Berserk thanks to this thread. I liked it and I will watch the other episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSg0J4RnNVI
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>>344287040

i can't, but i guarantee it comes from somewhere, either from the media the autor consumed, or personal experiences.

like >>344287329 said, berserk is easy because its probably inspired by western media,
stuff inspired be eastern media and eastern experiences would be harder to point out.
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>>344274212
>>344281374
>>344285804
he means the guy in the back
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>>344287675
read the manga its godly
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>>344287675
Read the manga, idiot.
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>>344273212
In the case of Berserk, it's objective. Also, majority of animes are fucking trash compared to the manga, minus something like HunterxHunter.
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>>344287675
>since griffith became king

what
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>>344270863
It's only a rip off if it's not weeb shit. This is just "influenced by" and "homage."
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>>344270863
Did a thread with a shitty premise like that really generate 180 replies?

Did it really come off as a surprise that Demon's / Dark Souls have been using Berserk as inspiration after 4 games?

The only game that instead made reference to King's Field 2 instead of Berserk was Dark Souls 2, and it was shat on by having a "shitty atmosphere".
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>>344276714
>Could you seriously imaginge moe mermaids and dick-hungry loli sorceress' while reading Golden Age arc
Golden age arc wasn't the first one you dingus. The very fist page of Berserk was Guts fucking a demon. Around ten pages later we're introduced to a fairy boy who acts as a comedy relief

I'm sorry you only watched the anime / movies and picked up where it left
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>>344287040
Valentine's backstory with his father is taken straight out of Pulp Fiction. It's much more brutal and emotional, but it's still pretty blatant. There was also one of DIO's sons with the Holes backstory like this anon >>344287329 mentioned.
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>>344290165
I stopped watching the anime after that was said, it made me completely lose interest. At least the outtakes are good.
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>>344291162
>Life ain't nothing but bitches and money
-Guts 1997
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>>344291162
DARKNESS, IMPRISONING ME
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>>344275680
Not there yet since Miura takes forever
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>>344292085
to be fair there is a LOT of content
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>>344270863
You've uncovered a huge secret! :o
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>>344287675
the 1996 anime has one of the best soundtracks out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
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>>344279520
I'm gonna cut the movies some slack because they have way more 2D than the current series will ever have
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>>344293074
not posting gatsu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa0Yh6e7dw
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>>344279520
the animation in the movie's was pretty good but like i didnt like gatts' pouty lips

also why didnt they hand off the animation of the new movie to dem niggas what do the dawn of war intros?
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>>344283225
which came first dou?
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>>344290165
das right nigga griffith became king

this takes places far into the future after casca get's cured and shit occurs

dont worry though it's the first episode and then it skips back to the past when gatts was young
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>>344270863
The Griffith with Gwyndolin thing is retarded because the two have literally nothing in common.
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>>344295127
then explain puck?

and please dont tell me you didnt read the manga
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>>344296391
puck got slain brudda, das why he ain' in the anime
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>>344296640
he is at the end actually
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>>344279520
Half of these criticisms are baseless and contradicted by the image itself.
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>>344273115
History class is one of the main reasons that people are so clueless and ignorant about history.
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Next you're gonna tell me Superman was influenced by the Jewish Messiah
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>>344292085
Miura's dead, anon.
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>>344296952
the movies are only good if you already know everything that should be happening by reading the comics

if you like the movie on its own you are probably someone who enjoys bleach/one piece
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>>344275680
The only thing we had so far was based Rickert.

So satisfying.
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