http://nintendoeverything.com/another-message-from-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fes-co-director-on-the-western-launch/
>Before Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE launched in North America and Europe last month, co-director Mitsuru Hirata shared a message on his own Twitter page. He very briefly commented on how the overseas version made changes to the original Japanese release.
>After one fan mentioned their disappointment with censorship, Hirata weighed in on the situation again. He responded to that person with the following message:
>“When I found out we were unable to provide the same experience as the Japanese version, I also felt some disappointment. But our overseas fans remained happy that the game was being brought over and I’m glad to see their passionate support. In the meantime, the new costumes added could in a way be considered a merit that can only be enjoyed by our overseas fans! Thank you, and please look forward to the game!”
Well fuck you. Should stand for your own fucking game.
>>344268661
They can't
Only big names have the power to do that
>>344268158
words of a man who literally can't do shit about it.
guys
it's time to stop buying nintendo games
just like you don't buy SJW games
at the very least if you feel the need to play SJW games buy them pre-owned
don't -directly- contribute to the jew cash flow at the very least
>>344268158
>>344268986
This makes me really curious on how much power localizers (NoA/Treehouse, NISA, Atlus, etc) really have over the content changes. Seems like a lot these days, and I don't like that one bit.
>>“When I found out we were unable to provide the same experience as the Japanese version
This line right here - WHY were you unable to provide the same experience? ESRB or NoA? I think most lean towards the latter.
>>344268661
But he does.
>>344269280
I recall an Iwata Asks with some Japanese dev and they basically said localization would just one day send them a list of stuff that would need to be changed and then they'd do that.
The reasoning was "we Japs cant into Western markets and tastes so we just trust the localization group" IIRC
>>344269404
NOA
It's always who is on charge off localization.
>it bombed in Europe too
WE FUCKING DID IT BROS
>>344269404
Cultural differences.
>>344269195
Going through Fates and trying to ignore the major butchering was already painful enough, I doubt I could withstand this crap, pre-owned or not.
>>344269195
>it's time to stop buying nintendo games
Those aren't the only games being changed in localization though.
Are there sales numbers for burgerland?
>>344269703
Prudery has never been a core aspect of Western culture.
>>344269789
No, but I'm sure they're dire. This just scraped into the top 20 in Europe.
>>344269813
Dunno where you live, but it sure as fuck is in my country. Small tits porn was unuronically outlawed for a while here.
>>344269404
OF course it's NoA. Even with the original content, it would have had an easy T rating. Now I should say I like the game and everything, but the censorship is retarded. Nintendo needs to realize that the demographic of video games have changed. In the 90s, yes it was primarily children. In the early to mid 00s, it was children, and teenagers, with a huge emerging adult market. Now it's mostly adults, with some teenagers and children, most children now only play smartphone games, or watch lets players. Nintendo needs to get the older demographic, who love Nintendo games, and appreciate games like FE#, or XenoX, and can be system sellers for these people.
The fact that they censored this game just boggles my mind.
It's a weeb game.
With a major focus on IDOLS.
It has Japanese voices only.
It's on the niche WiiU.
Who the fuck were they thinking they would reign in by censoring it? Are they afraid some soccer mom might notice something? News flash, there was a soccer mom that freaked about Blaziken fur tuff looking like a penis, there's nothing you can do about those people. And even so you can see things a million times worse on the internet, which fucking everyone seems to have a smartphone now.
I hope to god someone over in NoJ sees this shit, and decides to restructure things here. I actually think NoA normally does a fantastic job localizing certain titles over the years, but this crap is dumb.
>Make a game
>It's a good game you're very proud of
>People don't buy it because of changes mad by an organization you have zero control over
>Release the game in perfect timing with braindead easy piracy being possible on the WiiU
That is super shitty. I genuinely feel sorry for the guy.
>>344269195
The difference is "SJW" games are generally bad games in addition to whatever bullshit the writing pulls
The Nintendo games getting shit on by localization are good games with content removed because America is too pure for Japanese lewd
>>344269732
Fates' issue was a butchered translation but to be completely fair it's the one and only genuine recent example of a terrible translation
#FE and Xenoblade X's translations were fine, for example, but the content removed was bullshit
What I don't get is why change Tsubasa's age to 18 and then still censor her outfits?
You already changed her to legal age so there shouldn't be a problem with skimpy outfits
>>344269404
https://pietriots.com/2016/06/28/the-rights-of-artforms-part-2/
tl;dr It's Nintendo's game and their right to do whatever they like.
>>344269195
dealing with less anime tiddies is still 1000000x better than how EA and ubisoft actively fuck over playersand other game companies RIP maxis, popcap, bioware, etc
>>344269935
>It's a good game
>>344269912
>Nintendo needs to get the older demographic
They are sabotaging themselves with Reggie's blue market shite
They sure know that the market is mostly adults now
But they refuse to cater to them because they see it as fishing in the red ocean
Instead they want to be the reason kids get into video games, they want to change the market instead of just accept it as it is.
>>344269942
>Fates' issue was a butchered translation but to be completely fair it's the one and only genuine recent example of a terrible translation
Are you forgetting they removed a whole minigame, countless costumes and any line of dialog even remotely problematic?
>>344269778
yes, we don't buy those games new either
>>344269912
>Even with the original content, it would have had an easy T rating.
I disagree.
The Gravure part would've put it over, for sure. That's an aspect of Japanese culture that's pretty shitty by itself, and really doesn't have a western equivalent. "Debasing yourself in front of a camera is the only way to be taken seriously as an entertainer" would be a super hard sell in a T rated game.
>>344270262
lol are you serious
>>344270262
No it wouldn't. Also, the game doesn't put it that way at all.
That stuff was removed because the people in charge of the localization were LITERALLY TRIGGERED by PROBLEMATIC things such as modeling.
>>344268158
>When I found out we were unable to provide the same experience as the Japanese version
Clearly we need to make it clear to Nintendo that NoA doesn't accurately represent the interest of its fanbase.
>>344270382
That's your head canon.
They were likely removed because there would be a public backlash if Njntendo were to be caught funding, publishing and localising a game like #FE and would damage their image, even if it meant they sold a few more copies of the game.
I feel so bad for him, he is obviously proud of his game and wants it to sell but fucking western censors had to butcher it
Imagine how you would feel
>>344270625
And then you can marry your little sister in Fates.
Or stop a date rapist in Bravely Default, published by Nintendo.
Both rated T. Both will sell 10x more then #FE.
>>344270262
>girls in swimsuits equals an M
Tell that to Persona 4 DAN
Blame Tomodachi Life.
You all laughed two years ago.
Now this is the fallout. Well fine, fags
>>344270625
>there would be a public backlash if Njntendo were to be caught funding, publishing and localising a game like #FE and would damage their image
Just like what happened when Nintendo funded, published and localized FUCKING BAYONETTA
Yeah, Bayonetta ain't got shit on #FE's hardcore swimsuit modeling!
>>344270247
Really? Because a bunch of Nier threads still pop up regularly.
>>344270779
Kamiya is a hard ass
He probably said "if you censor my game you cant have it"
>>344270093
>They are sabotaging themselves with Reggie's blue market shite
Reggie has never had control over the NA branch. He has always had someone above him.
>>344270751
Blame the western video game press and developers being SJWs. They are the ones scaring the japs and telling them to change shit.
>>344269992
She does wear a bikini in-game.
>>344270791
if that's censored i'll buy it pre-owned too
rip
>>344270856
>>344270779
Bayonetta is also rated M and is very clearly marketed toward an older crowd.
So it's not really relevent to the conversation at all.
>>344270262
Anon, remember when the game was announced at e3.
The reason we only have subtitles is because of how Japanese the game is and it would ruin it to translate that dialogue and dub it over.
Reggie the puppet said this.
And now they went and removed things too Japanese in a game they did not dub because it was so Japanese it was part of its charm.
At this point they are just fucking with us.
I bought it, it was fun.
>>344270860
Blame the spineless publishers who are scared of this non-existent threat.
Senran Kagura wasn't censored and it was even lewder than this casual shit.
>>344268158
He's right, in fact they should made all the characters to wear a burka so the game experience would been even more unique.
What an asshole.
>>344270674
Oh no the poor Americans won't get their anime tiddies :((((((((
>>344270894
Only in that soda commercial and that ad-lib performance though.
I'm saying why remove that swimsuit all together as a costume and censor the idol and wedding dress ones if she's now legal?
>>344270949
What if I told you the publisher was the one that wanted the change?
TMS is crazy good despite chapter 2's censorship though. You can tell it was the pet project of the team at Atlus from the very beginning.
If it didn't sell well, which is probably the case, it certainly wasn't because of a bunch of 4chan shitposters. It was simply a niche game in a niche genre on a dead console.
>>344271009
They don't only sell the game in the US. The western versions are sold all over the world. I'm not american and my society is not fileld with sjws but I have to deal with the consequences.
>>344270967
He's just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
>>344271009
Nigger work on your bait, everyone needs anime tiddies.
>>344269912
Its even too late into the wiiU's life cycle to really give a crap about this stuff. It will literally change nothing if soccer moms notice now, they aren't going to get up and return their wiiU's after 3 years of it
>>344270918
Daily reminder that this got a T
>>344271175
Can I kill her?
>>344270779
>>344270924
>>344270748
>>344270382
I like the part where you guys can just ignore aspects of the conversation you don't like.
It's not the bikinis. It's not the photo shoot, it's everything together.
In the original game, a 17 year old girl, who is, by any standards, regardless of AoC laws, a minor, is convinced to expose herself against her will.
And then the game depicts the entire thing in great detail. It's not over text boxes or just off screen, the game devotes a good three minutes just to taking pictures of a minor debasing herself for the percieved greater good.
It's all of that, taken together.
Maybe you're right, maybe they did go overboard with the censoring. Maybe they ONLY had to age her up to 18, and it would've been fine.
The point still stands, there's no fucking way that scene as constituted in the Japanese version would get ported over whole-hog and not get an M rating.
>>344271175
not seeing the problem..
perfectly reasonable attire. don't be a prude.
>>344269535
>The reasoning was "we Japs cant into Western markets and tastes so we just trust the localization group" IIRC
The joke writes itself. It really does.
>>344271205You can fuck her.
>>344271242
This is America, we do that shit to fucking children.
There is nothing inappropriate about a girl in a bikini, a girl you aged up already to 18, getting her pictures taken.
>>344270262
>and really doesn't have a western equivalent
Kek, that's only because murricunts are retards and go straight to porn.
>>344271242
P4 DAN has underage girls dancing in swimsuits
At least one of the 3DS Senran Kaguras got a T, and it's Senran fucking Kagura
Your argument holds no water, theres no way the uncensored game got an M
>>344271320
I'm not sitting through this shit, if I wanted to get a witch pregnant I'd play animal parade.
>>344270918
Fatal Frama was also M. And yet.
>>344271067
i'd not be that likely to buy it anyway since i moved to PS4, but this censorship just nails the coffin shut with the added benefit of nailing nintendo's coffin shut simultaneously
first xenoblade X, now this? fuck nintendo forever. i'm not even buying this shit pre-owned. maybe i'm a cuck, but i'm not THIS much of a fucking cuck
>>344271205
No butyou can make her your wife
>>344271242
>The point still stands, there's no fucking way that scene as constituted in the Japanese version would get ported over whole-hog and not get an M rating.
The only people who would've played this game are young adults. Nintendos demographic grew up ages and ages and ages ago. There's like hardware Nintendo fans in their 30's, then you have the meat of the demographic who are all in their 20's, then actual teenagers who play games on twitch, youtube and smartphones.
Nintendo doesnt have a teenage demographic they are so desperately after, they just don't, an M rating would've made no difference and I guess they are perpetually trying to chase after a demographic that constantly eludes them because adults are usually a little brighter and aren't as quick to accept bullshit and moneygrubbing although Nintendo once again has misjudged their market and just how easily their wrong doings would be overlooked if they just tried to cater to their demographic just once, even in a semi-meaningful way and just acknowledged them. Now it's just a bitter cycle of resmentment over trivial issues.
>>344271398
>At least one of the 3DS Senran Kaguras got a T
SK Burst.
And that was also censored to hell
>>344271067
>It was simply a niche game in a niche genre on a dead console.
Which alienated its target audience with dumb and unnecessary censorship.
>>344271463
Xenoblade is even fucking worse because they remove customization codes that can't be hacked back in.
It's completely ruined. I'm so mad.
>>344268158
And I still pirated the game and applied the restoration patch. Fuck Treehouse and NoA, I'm not giving those niggers a dime.
>>344271548
>And that was also censored to hell
No it wasn't. This is getting kind of sad now. Are you really this desperate?
I'm still glad they censored this game to hell and back.
Now I have no excuse to buy a Wii U, since this was the only game I wanted to play
I'll just wait for an emulator and play the uncensored version that I already have downloaded/prepared
>>344271548
wasn't the only thing changed was the girls' ages?
MAKE FREE DLC THAT REVERSES THE CENSORSHIP.
PROBLEM SOLVED.
>>344271586
my biggest problem wasn't even the 'censorship' - lin was a cunt and i wouldn't want to see her in underwear anyway, though the inability to play with a qt flat chick was a shame
my biggest problem was the game was overall massively disappointing story wise (funny how sjw games tend to have bad writing), and had a ton of obvious sjw shit pigeonholed in
that game ALMOST killed the wii u for me, splatoon and fast racing neo extended it's lifespan by a month
>>344271548
In what way that is visible in the game?
>b-but removing ages is just as bad as removing costumes and changing the story!
>>344271528
[citation needed]
What the fuck is with this fucking shit game and its lack of fucking autosave? It's the current year and they don't have it?
>>344271548
Please never post again
>>344271551
Ultimately, it's about playing a damn great game censored against not playing it at all.
Everything else is just getting angry for the sake of it. You can even play the uncensored version easily.
>>344268158
Are Western sales numbers in yet?
>>344271689
It's still insulting to censor Lin though even if you don't care about her. Even if you're not a lolicon, it's insulting for Takahashi and the rest of the game's staff.
But i found the worse is that you can't play as a big titted semen demon because of their shit.
>>344271786
Casual scum
>>344271067
I don't think the changes helped any. I don't know how much better it would have done without the changes, but I'm almost certain it'd have sold more. So why make the changes in the first place? They costed money.
How come adults in the west are basically treated like babies? Why dose our government think we dont have the maturity to enjoy evocative media? Where did everything go so wrong?
Basically Nintendo and the ratings board, together, two momentus forces that will ensure censorship forever, what the fuck is wrong with these cancerous, cancerous fucking people?
Why cant they just let people enjoy what they want to play and pay for? Why is Nintendo and the government so fucked???
>>344271830
>against not playing it at all.
No, against pirating it along with the restoration patch and experiencing the game how it was meant to be, while not supporting censorship.
>>344271846
Get fucked faggot, there's a difference between a casual Meme Souls player like you getting rekt and a power outage fucking over your last 3 hours of progress because of shit game design LMAO.
>>344271786
Choosing where and how to save is part of the gameplay and balance the difficulty.
It should never have been a standard for this type of games.
I was right on the fence on buying this and the censorship tipped me into saving my cash.
As bad as it is, censorship won't stop me buying stuff I really want to play (I bought Fire Emblem), but will keep me away from marginal stuff like this.
>>344271901
Casual scum that plays too many westershit games
Ive never even played a souls in my life
>>344271302
I don't think "reasonable" is the right way to describe an outfit that obviously goes out of its way to be very provocative. Not that I really have a problem with it (other than thinking it looks stupid, in my opinion) but I don't think "reasonable" is the right term.
>>344271320
>>344271514
Ordering.
>>344271901
>auto save
You are casual as hell
>>344269195
i've already stopped, im going to pirate everything for my wii u and buy a nx preowned if i really want it
>tfw practically no rule34 or Kiria, Maeko, or Eleonora.
>tfw no SFM rule34 of anything out of this game.
>>344271918
This.
>>344271918
Yet after viewing an hour and a half of cutscenes, outside of the Idolasphere in a safe room, why the fuck isn't there an autosave? For what purpose does not having a simple function of convenience add to balance?
>>344271952
>Westershit
I don't even own any Western consoles, pleb. I've been playing EO since the original but even that didn't laden you down with bullshit cutscenes left and right.
>>344271786
Maybe not auto save, but save points so when you pass one you'd be like "oh, I should save"
I had an issue in the intermission between chapter 4 and 5 where anytime I went to check Tsubasa's profile my wii u would freeze and I had to hard reset.
Lost a few hours from that
>>344271923
I am sure the developers AND Nintendo knew stuff like this would happen. The same with me as well, I decided to skip this title but it's just like their goal of censoring the game is continuously a self defeating process, yet they continue to do it.
>>344271994
see
>>344272049
cuck
>>344271786
You're not this guy are you?
>>344270262
nigga the first senran kagura game got a T whatever you just fucking said is bullshit
>>344271830
The best choice is pirating it but theres tons of great games I can play from companoes who don't treat their target audience like dirt
>>344271901
The game wasn't designed to be played on an unstable electricity connection
If things were a bit different you'd be shitposting how the autosave corrupted your HDD as when a power outage occurred as it was saving
>>344271067
No, it was literally only because of idolshit, that's the one and only reason, if it wasn't idolshit it would've sold at the very least 80k in America. It's simply not what appeals to the fans of FE and SMT. Think if Pokémon Conquest was idolshit and every character from Nobunaga's Ambition was a popstar trying to stop Nobunaga from becoming the king of pop.
>>344272252
So much prejudice.
And NoA pretty much never publishes sales numbers. Everyhing else is speculation.
>>344270262
You're literally fucking clueless.
>>344271528
I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
>>344272036
>Tfw almost non-existent Japanese porn too
Top kek. Doujins of Tsubasa and Kiria whoring themselves out for game sales when?
>>344271786
This game is ruined enough by being able to save anywhere, on the fly difficulty switching, and easy SP healing every time you find a new warp portal and can jump out of the dungeon to the nearest vending machine and be back in the dungeon in about 20 seconds, and you want autosave on top of all that?
Please anon have some self respect.
Reminder that not long ago America puritans tried to force Japan to stop sexualizing women in anime and games.
Which means that if you disliked censorship before, hold on to your butts because shit is gonna get worse.
>>344272549
>Nintendo's professional market researchers
That's a contradiction, right? There are no professional market researches, in fact their actions clearly demonstrate this. They do not spent money in market research like at all.
>>344272728
More like the UN, whose president right now is korean.
>>344272471
Prejudice or not doesn't change the fact that idolshit is what caused this game to fail, not the censorship.
I pirated the game and enjoyed it because of the good gameplay, but every time I look at the very first trailer Nintendo released a still cringe hard and what this could've been. The SMT references all over the city don't make this better, if anything I feel like they are laughing at me.
>>344272728
America is a young and insecure country
>>344269935
I find this hilarious because Fates, another game with massive "localization", was also released in perfect timing with piracy becoming super accessible on the 3DS.
>>344272745
I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
>check neogaf
>tons of people playing and enjoying the game
>check gamefaqs
>tons of people playing and enjoying the game
>check any other minor forum
>tons of people playing and enjoying the game
>check reviews
>even fucking polygon gave it a 9.5
>check 4chan
>MUH CENSORSHIP
>even though that quickly became a non-issue with the restoration patch
You let your hate consume you /v/
>>344269732
You could both get the game preowned and install the restored version of the game (or just pirate the restored version, which is what a lot of people are likely doing).
>>344273056
>4 copies sold
>tons of people playing the game
>>344273056
Indeed, we should all strive to be more like Neogaf/Gamefaqs posters and quietly accept censorship.
>>344273056
>check neogaf
>10 people enjoying the game
>check gamefaqs
>10 people enjoying the game
>check /vg/
>threads are literally already on suicide watch
>check occasional /v/ threads that discuss about the game without censorship
>450 posts, 20 unique IPs
>>344272728
>Americans used to be the biggest badass maybe 20 years ago
>Are now bigger cucks than Europe
>>344273014
>Nintendo's professional market researchers
What Nintendo market researcher lmao? You legitimately cannot prove they exist, they aren't on Nintendos linked in page, they are never talked about during shareholder meetings, their wiki doesn't list 'Market Research' as a branch or as a separate or internal institution. Nintendo doesn't do market research, and that is why dumb shit like this is happening.
>>344273195
>>Americans used to be the biggest badass maybe 20 years ago
>>344273056
>check metacritic
>5.5 user score
JUST
>>344272869
Again, you're posting under the assumption that the game failed. We don't know that until NoA themselves outright publish sales numbers, and I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon.
Also, you seem to be extremely insecure if you get uncomfortable by seeing some bright j-pop songs in a video game.
As you said, the gameplay is good. The game itself is good. Everything else is you choosing to get mad for reasons. It's not like SMT4:A and P5 aren't coming out within the year. It's not like TMS killed your precious franchises.
>>344272869
>idolshitidolshitidolshitidolshitidolshitidolshit
how old are you
>>344273229
Club Nintendo was literally market research you dumb fuck. Regardless, I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
>>344273298
>>344273291
>the butchered, pixellated corpse of the game is good
ftfy
>>344273363
>Club Nintendo was literally market research you dumb fuck
LMAO club Nintendo was a fucking self-submit rewards based program, that is not market research at all lmao and if that's what Nintendo considers proper market research then holy fuck that would perfectly explain why dumb shit like this keeps happening.
>>344273387
*yawn*
>>344273014
>I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
You mean the people that helped make the WiiU a joke and still fail to realise what helped the 3DS sell so well?
>>344273490
>"t-t-t-they don't do any research at all!"
>gets proven wrong
>"b-b-b-but that's not proper research!"
KEK
Keep digging your own grave you literal piece of shit.
>>344273576
>You mean the people that helped make the WiiU a joke and still fail to realise what helped the 3DS sell so well?
top kek
>>344269195
I don't buy anything that has been censored or localised in a shitty way.
I don't care if it makes a difference, because FE: Fates has proven that it doesn't. I'm happily smug knowing that my money didn't go to treehouse.
On the other hand, piracy and restore patches are still a possibility, so that's good.
>>344273576
I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
>Nintendo logic
70-80% of our userbase is 20+years old
Let's censor a game that is inherently catered to that specific demographic and try modify the game to appeal to children only to piss off the core demographic it's aimed at and fail to penetrate the demographic the game isn't designed for.
>We'll take a loss on that thank ya very much Atlus and our loyal fans for helping us loose even more brand value and money for the sake of nothing but pure stupidity.
The pointlessness of it all is what gets to me, I just cant for the life of me come to terms with how fundamentally fucking stupid and self defeating Nintendos censorship is. I just cant
>>344273721
thank god nintendo's tech is as retarded as their jewry
otherwise we might be fucked
>>344273930
>70-80% of our userbase is 20+years old
Are you fucking retarded?
>>344273930
I'm sure you know more than Nintendo's professional market researchers
I don't get it, just in 2014 they released Bayonetta, which is lewd as fuck, and Hyrule Warriors which was full of titty monsters and they were ok, and now in 2016 they're shitting up every game. What the hell happened in 2 years?
>>344273930
>70-80% of our userbase is 20+years old
Uh
>>344269703
>play janapese game
>expect american stuff in it
BRAIN DAMAGE
Why is this allowed?
>>344274470
>>344274524
>>344270625
That's just not true anon, one of the biggest issues with the game is how inconsistent the censoring is.
Stuff is censored in cutscenes, not in gameplay and vice versa, it screams NoA being a bunch of SJW cunts.
>>344273634
What prevents anon from knowing more than the market researchers of a company with tunnel vision?
>>344274470
Can you provide a link to this article? I really want to know what website created it.
>>344272998
I tried to pirate Fates and ended up bricking my spare 3DS, so I ended up buying the Special Edition since I already had it on pre-order.
I didn't let those faggots beat me though, I went out and bought an import 3DS and I'm ordering import Conquest to play, NoA can go fuck themselves if they thought I should just play their shoddy localization job & shouldn't be able to rub twintails.Good thing I did too, they got the Kid Icarus shorts on Jap My Nintendo and the new Yugioh game ain't half bad. Gonna get me some Picross 2 too.
>>344275163
How can you brick your 3DS while pirating fates? Were you downgrading your 3DS or installing CFW? Should've followed the guide more closely then desu.
>>344273930
I highly doubt your statistics are true, but it still boggles my fucking mind that a game that came really close to becoming the first-ever M-Rated FE game in Japan was censored with the kiddies in mind then further censored for the US kiddies, who barely even play consoles in the first place, and much rather would play with their phones and stream Netflix.
Like thank god we have modders working tirelessly to salvage the game, but fuck, that's aggrevating work.
>>344275253
Downgrading the system, I still have no idea how the hell I managed to do it when I followed the guide to a tee.
In hindsight, I should've just taken the homebrew and stuck with it for a portable Doom machine.
>>344270924
It fucking bombed and they weren't willing to invest more money dubbing it, let's be honest.
NoA overreached on censorship, something they've been doing constantly for petty reasons lately, it has nothing to do with the idol theme of this particular game.
>some people responding negatively
Why do we boycott and complain if not to win this game of tug-of-war against the feminist narrative? This is cause for celebration. If they add everything back in, we should show them that the gaming community is ready to welcome cooperative devs back with open arms, regardless of past mistakes. That's how we get companies to control and/or fire their SJW employees, criticize feminism's hate, and put an end to this little war in our favor.
Let me put it to you this way: If someone were angry at you, and they were just going to shit on you for some unspecified period of time regardless of what you did, would you bother putting a lot of effort into patching things up? Or would you just say "fuck that and fuck you"? Okay, so you say you'd rather that the offending companies all just die. How long will that take, and are you guaranteed a good replacement? The answers are "a long time" and "no". The best policy is to work with the devs, not against them, when possible.
>>344268661
You seem to believe that standing by every single decision that you make and refusing to hear anyone who criticizes you is some kind of higher principle. It's not. It's called having a bloated ego. You know who else can't stand being told that they're wrong, or change their behavior without a big pout on their face? Children.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you take the other extreme. If you act with intelligence and integrity, you won't find yourself with a choice of either being a childish asshole or admitting that you were wrong all the time.
>>344269703
Perceived cultural differences, and a noisy minority that tries to make sure that this perception isn't shattered.
A lot of the upheaval that's been going on lately is due to people getting tired of this discrepancy between how our institutions portray American beliefs and what Americans actually believe.
>another message
>it's just the twitter post from like a week ago
Fuck off OP.
>>344275612
They are not adding everything back in though.
>People get mas at localization because some tits or asses arent in their game
Are u gay?
Why does this game cause so much salt among the /v/ normies?
>>344276517
It isn't the normies. No normie would care about this game. It's the abnormies up in arms.
>>344276517
Because /v/ is autistic and incapable of understanding that people think differently than them. It's why the FE community at large doesn't care that petting was removed since most of them never wanted it in the game in the first place.
>>344276517
I don't know.
>>344276517
Nintendo jumped the gun and announced it with stock images of SMT and FE characters from both games then the next mention widely seen was the Nintendo Direct trailer.
Then the censorfags complained about a pair of pants and not having a 16 and 17 year old in bikinis
>>344274086
>>344274274
I'm not sure, but that anon might be thinking of the eshop statistics that were released a couple years ago. It stated that 94% of the Wii U eshop users were over 18. Which makes sense as most people under 18 don't have a credit card. They also found that 93% of its users were dudes.
https://mynintendonews.com/2014/08/28/nintendo-reveals-demographics-of-wii-u-eshop-users-males-account-for-93-and-females-only-7/
I will say this though, up until last year I worked at a Gamestop, and the vast majority of Wii U games were sold to guys in their 20s and 30s. They were mostly spergs who would flip a table if we didn't receive Amiibos on their proper release dates (which would happen quite often). That's all purely anecdotal of course.
>>344276202
>he doesn't like anime tits and asses
I bet this faggot doesn't even have a badass fort made out of sexy dakimakura pillows.
>>344268158
Basically what it's saying is "Fuck NoA for ruining our game, but we can't actually say this due to business reasons."
>>344269280
Atlus didn't wanna make all these changes to #FE, NoA made them do it. Atlus and others are only as in control over the localization as NoA/Sony/whoever lets them be.
>>344269887
Is it really your entire country or just the people in government/media? Moral crusaders have a tendency to concentrate themselves where they can do the most harm.
>>344277076
Soccer moms never got into video game localization
The game was probably never going to do well to begin with. It's a niche game already, and I believe they alienated a lot of people by introducing it as SMTxFE, when the end product is really nothing of the sort.
If they had called it something like Tokyo Mirage Sessions Persona, it probably would have done a hell of a lot better.
Regardless, they really shot themselves in the foot with the censorship by even further alienating their target audience. Myself and many others I know refuse to buy the game because of it. Paying for an inherently inferior product when you know it can be easily pirated and then restored to it's original state is really silly to me.
>>344277395
>SMTxFE, when the end product is really nothing of the sort.
Thematically maybe. It plays better than any SMT or Persona.
Ok /v/
This is the big question. Can I still see their feet in the western version?
>>344277076
This.
People join the social sciences and the media for the sake of pushing SJW bullshit. This has a domino effect, as those people then prevent people who don't dance to their tune from becoming their colleagues. Your degree courses are built around post-modern thought and will give you a bad grade if you don't regurgitate their shit, and your career in the news media won't last long if you don't join in on the head nodding whenever somebody is threatening to throw around the terms "racist" or "sexist".
This fight won't be over until there's an extremely aggressive push on universities to rid them of the political stanglehold that SJWs have established over the past 50 years. That's where they get their validity, and it's also where they filter out people who might threaten their narrative. Our countries need to define very specifically what qualifies to label itself as "science" (it needs to be based strictly in research and empirical evidence, and not thrown through a lens of emotional interpretations afterwards; the latter is not science), require that teachers not teach things that aren't based in fact as if they were (in other words, basically every bit of rhetoric that comes out of SJW mouths), and cut financial support for courses that only serve to indoctrinate people into the cult. It won't go away overnight after such reforms are made, but that'll put its death in motion, and make the fields more welcoming for people who won't play on cue every time when the far left conductor waves his baton.
>>344273056
Of course polygon liked it. The publisher caved in to their sjw bullshit and they're satisfied with the outcome.
>>344270842
No it's because noa had no part in its localization
stop bringing up bayonets hy rule warriors or Devils third and look at their credits noa had nothing to do with there localization
You guys don't understand. Most of this shit is lost in translation. Japanese hand the game over thinking they will just change the dialogue but they end up butchering it, considering they are working for Nintendo they have no say in what the localisation team does. NoA / treehouse just disguise their sjw tendencies by saying "oh our market is different, they won't like these things so we're changing them for you"
Reminder it's not ok only when Nintendo does it
It's actually a huge waste of money to force your devs to redo the game to censor a few things, rehire the voice actor to say she's 18 instead of 16, get the artist to censor outfits and completely redraw new outfits...
All that shit was a big waste of time. I guarantee you that the game would of actually sold more in the west if they didn't censor all that shit. It would of come out much earlier. And it would of costed nintendo less money to not censor and redo outfits and redo voice acting.
Nintendo are retards.
>Think of it as a merit.
>>344268158
They should be explained that players who actually buy the games dont care about cybabies SJW bloggers who want to put all women in burkas and SJWs themselves dont buy such games at all
So there are no issues for game sales.
>>344273056
>supporting censored media
I'm just happy it released in Europe the same time as America, let alone at all.
I'm also happy Nintendo can't make secure consoles for shit so you can just hack the Wii U and mod the game to be uncensored again extremely easily.
>>344269837
That's Europe, it's Sonygger HQ there
We're talking they were the one region where the Vita outsold the 3DS level of Sonyggerism.
>>344281846
Do you actually think it did much better in the US?
>>344276776
>cuck is prevalent in /feg/
>turns out it was better suited for the rest of the fanbase
>>344273286
inb4 the user reviews are assblasted 4chin users complaining about MUH CENSORSHIP
>buying shitty idol games even uncensored
>>344276776
As an FE fan, It really makes me mad when people talk about Fates being butchered because of a missing "minigame" because of that facerubbing bullshit. It's fucking dumb, it's not fun, it is more or less mandatory to do multiple times between chapters since you receive tangible benefits from doing it, and it wastes time for the same fucking unskippable schtick of mindlessly scraping your stylus back and forth across the touch screen for a minute straight while anime voices coo at you. I'm glad it just got replaced with a fade to black conversation that ends instantly and gives you the same effect as sitting through the entire rubbing bullshit.
>>344282667
Hope you really like those pickles mate.
>>344282010
Yes.
Not that anyone has numbers though.
>>344282667
I don't mind the minigame or the removed costumes, it's the butchered support conversations i hated
>>344282667
>an optional mini game I did not like and was not forced to do got axed and that is a good thing
An optional mini game I liked and did of my own choosing got axed and that is not a good thing, you only felt compelled to do it because of a small bonus and the little icon on the treehouse when nothing forces you to do it.
It's like amie in Pokemon.
>>344283150
Buying weapons or items is optional too, but I'd hate to have to waggle a wiimote for no reason every time I did that in Radiant Dawn.
And you are downplaying the fuck out of the benefits and frequency of it. It's tons of free support for Corrin, which means stuff like +10 Hit, +10 Evade, and +10 Crit all at the same time per adjacent person that stacks with other characters, along with unlocking entire new classes to use and giving you child characters.
>>344284298
>tons of free supports
>not even once between chapters
And you are right about weapons but why actually buy them when silver and above gimp you and the rest are already equipped or dropped by enemies is beyond me.
Not to mention one out of the thing for supports is not the same as buying an item.
So no, your vendetta against 10 seconds of face rubbing is still without merit.
>>344269912
this
the game was fucking 12+ in Japan
>>344268158
As fan I'm disappointed, but I guess one sale lost doesn't matter, right?
