Does this mean Melee is a serious fighting game now?
I can't see anyone actually using this.
Holy shit what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-NKXS1m2I
If it hadn't been completely played out for a decade, maybe. Too little too late, though. Hope that pad works for Smash 4.
>He fell for the stick meme
hitboxes are banned for every fighting game major, so I highly doubt these will be legal for Melee tournaments.
>Does this mean Melee is a serious fighting game now?
Melee will never be taken seriously as a competitive game, especially when their community is widely regarded to be the most toxic inside the entire /fgc/ and nobody wants anything to do with them anymore.Melee isn't a fighting game either.
>>344195517
>melee isn't a fighting game either
just keep telling that yourself
>>344194634
this
>>344195517
>toxic
ugh.
Someone please BAN this FILTH.
>>344195517
What's wrong with hitboxes?
y tho?
>>344196172
no wonder fgcucks are always getting bullied by memeleefags at tournaments
>>344194497
isn't the whole point of having a big ass box for a controller the stick for better movement doing inputs? how is this better than a regular controller for Smash
>>344196172
Abate is too attractive to not consistently top8.
>>344196154
I don't know what that guy is even talking about. Melee uses hit spheres, not hit boxes.
>>344195865
Whatever helps you sleep at night, manchild.
>>344196154
You can do some crazy shit if you're not limited by a joystick, but instead have four independent buttons for movement.
>>344195517
>best fighting game controller is banned because it makes every move much more reliable than a stick
That's hilarious. I currently use a keyboard for fighting only because it's cheaper than buying a hitbox and it's basically the same thing minus the smaller buttons.
>>344196154
>>344196373
It's the controller name brand
>>344196507
>>344196412
It's not that it makes the moves "more reliable", but it lets you do shit that's normally impossible, such as random standing 720's that don't need to be buffered in a move.
>>344196392
story behind this?
>>344196412
So instead of players taking these new pads and learning how to use them since it increases the meta they out right ban it because they can't adapt.
>>344196392
I don't see anything wrong with any of these.
>>344195517
>melee isn't a fighting game
B-but... it's a game about nintendo charactersfighting. The game's subtitle even has an obscure word for a fight. It's a game and it's about fighting so how is it not a fighting game?
I know what you posted is probably bait, but it's so preposterous that I took it anyway.
>>344195517
>>344195517
>>344195517
Hitboxes were banned when they found out you could hold forward and backwards at the same time to guaranteed block any mixup, even unblockables.
Since then the Hitbox guys have been making that exploit impossible but the blow to their brand may have been too much.
>>344195517
>toxic
>>344196625
Top players from Melee (Leffen mainly) complained about how CEO was ran. Jabailey is essentially making fun of Melee players.
A lot of Melee players feel entitled despit Jabailey being one of the few people who gave Melee a chance back in the day
>>344196172
FGC has way hotter dudes desu, I get its a funny meme though.
>Rico and strider will never Eiffel tower you
>>344196625
Top Melee Smashers like Leffen were e-mailing outrageous demands to JeBailey saying that they wouldn't attend EVO if they didn't get shit like private hand warming stations, Spongebob CRTs, or floated through the pools because actually having to play in a tournament is beneath people who make a living playing in Melee tournaments. It's toxicity you won't see in any other scene, even the Street Fighter scene that's currently featuring Low Tier God.
>>344197085
Your party game will never be a fighting game, no matter how hard you shitpost. Even Sakurai said it's not a fighting game and everyone is better off playing Virtua Fighter if they want to play a competitive game.
>>344197271
What else do you want me to call the Melee community? Babies? Autists? Manchildren?
>>344196828
Requiring specific equipment to play goes counter to smash community. They have NEVER widely supported anything like this, far too conservative.
See Project M, or all the other various mods that made brawl playable.
>>344197431
What is the % chance that Wavedash Online is actually good and that it kills Melee? Will it be Melee's Skullgirls?
>>344197416
>being this mad because melee is getting more attention than traditional fgcs
>>344197416
>toxic
Found the LoLbabby/tr4sh cuck. Want me to warm your bottle? One for your wife's son too?
>>344197107
Maybe games shouldn't make unblockable mixups
>>344197840
I mean, if you're the Melee player, shouldn't I be warming your bottle instead?
>>344197716
You mean the Kickstarter game? I thought that shit bombed and didn't meet the goal.
The reason why any smash clone is doomed is the characters. Nobody wants to play as randoms when they could be playing their favorite Nintendo character
>>344197107
That's the game's fault.
>>344197762
>SF5 has more entrants than Melee at Evo and is going to be televised
Meleefag keep up pulling the number cards yet they seem to forget how to count
>>344198030
No, no. That was... "Air Dash Online"... Oh, fuck.
>>344194497
>implying melee fags who bitch about literally everything will allow people to use something besides the standard gamecube controller
wish hitboxes weren't banned at local shit though, they seem real nice and comfortable compared to a stick. not worth buying just to play online with them, i'll stick to pad
>>344194497
>Implying a party game will ever be a fighter
>>344197716
>Wavedash Games
ahahaha
>>344197416
>party game will never be a fighting game
Nigga, it's a fighting game. It inspires a competitive edge in people who play it. Just because it has 4 players doesn't change the fact that it's a GAME about FIGHTING.
>fgc
>diverse cast of multiple races colors, sexualities
>smash
>gay furries and skinny white autists
hmm
>>344199071
That's just melee. Sm4sh is as black and nip-heavy as most otger fighting games
>>344199052
It's a party game though. Sakurai never intended it to be a competitive fighting game but a bunch of autists insist it is after 15 years
>>344199019
please tell me that's not an actual character in the wavedash game lmfao
>>344199071
lotsa niggers and spics and asians in the top 100 so I don't know what you're talking about.
>>344194497
it should be banned considering it has pre-programmed shield drop angles and perfect wavedash angles
>>344199052
But that's wrong. It's a party game. Just the fact that it's a GAME with FIGHTING in it doesn't mean it's a fighting game.
>>344199071
so you're saying that FGC games are easy enough for niggers and women to play?
It doesn't matter whether it's actually beneficial to the game, or makes you play better or not.
None of that matters.
People who suck at fighting games, and smash, will still buy hitboxes, because they have convinced themselves that input methods are the barrier keeping them from getting good.
Anyone good enough to know when and how to pull off certain maneuvers in a fighting game or smash will have gotten to a point where they are comfortable in the common input tool already.
You can buy a Hitbox if you want, but it won't make you any better than someone else who started in the same position as you learning on a stick, or a gamecube controller for smash.
calling melee a fighting game is an insult. Melee absolutely shits all over traditional fighting games in terms of depth and complexity. It's not even close
>>344199981
>>344195517
They aren't at all though. They were, like years ago.
>>344199348
>>344200180
not
even
close
>>344199672
most smashbabbies cant even do a hadoken
>>344197107
Wasnt it only in MvC3 that that was found, even then it could be done on a controller as well. there were a decent amount of good MvC3 players that used a controller.
>>344200238
I need a citation that shows me that's actually from Wavedash Online before I lose all my hope. Not even because it's a brown girl just that it's so bland looking.
>>344199981
Why is Melee the only community to say their game is too deep and complex?
>>344197416
I don't see why it matters whether Melee fits into your arbitrary genre label of "fighting game"; the fact is, it's a competitive 1v1 video game with more depth to its mechanics than any of the "real" fighting games.
>>344200384
that was smash 4 players.
a wavedash is already pretty much the same as a hadouken motion.
>>344200490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgFhsnFO_JY
>>344197059
>Skipping past pools
>Nothing wrong with that
Absolutely retarded considering that top players in other games can drown in pools due to choking. Having to play one less game compared to others is fine (if not, necessary to make some pools work out due to uneven player numbers), but skipping several sets is fucking stupid.
>>344200497
Because if you keep repeating a lie, it'll often come true
>>344200531
>the fact is, it's a competitive 1v1 video game with more depth to its mechanics than any of the "real" fighting games.
pic related
>>344198815
why the fuck would they ban hitboxes
>>344200497
Have you ever played it? It's actually ridiculous how in depth the mechanics go.
>top players starting to read jab reset SDI and follow up on it
>>344200618
>a wavedash is already pretty much the same as a hadouken motion.
>Hold down back or down right
>Press X/Y
>Press R within a frame of leaving the ground
Yeah that's the Hadoken motion I remember.
>>344200660
Yep, and it's also at fighting game majors like Evo and CEO and will continue to be for a long time. Whether you arbitrarily consider it to be a "fighting game" or not.
>>344200841
Yes? Wavedash motion is very close to a QCF. For waveshines you have to hold forward afterwards, literally making it a QCF motion.
>>344200631
Alright.
>>344200843
It's at EVO and CEO because Melee was dead, and JeBailey and Wizard saw free and easy money. If you honestly think that Melee is going to stick around after this year, despite the fact that every top Melee Smasher has gone out of their way to be a diva and bitch about literally everything, you're fucking deluded. But then again, you'd have to be deluded to think that Smash is worth playing in the year of 2016.
>>344194497
>analog
>it's digital
>>344200841
pretty close.
though good thing it also way more complex motions
>>344200843
It probably won't be at CEO next year after the bitch fit they threw this year. I'm suprised Jabailey has put with them this long
>>344200647
The point is less that it works against the top players to be forced into pools than it works against the players in said pools. being in the same pool as armada is enough to kill your motivation by itself.
>>344201040
How do you know it's digital?
>>344200618
>Smash 4 players can't do Hadokens
Ryu is literally on the roster and I'm pretty sure most decent players can execute all of his true inputs.
>>344201036
You may be right with the CEO drama, tho it doesn't really matter. We've held our own majors for a long time.
>>344201223
Are you trying to imply they are pressure sensitive buttons?
>>344201223
It's a fucking Sanwa button you retard
>>344201036
>It's a "Melee will be dead in a year" shitpost
What's with this "Melee is a party game not a fighting game" argument anyway? Do you fuckers not like parties?
>>344200647
they do it in sports like tennis
how do i even get into melee if i just want to play online
>>344201113
I would love to see FGCucks attempt to become consistent with either of these techniques.
>>344199334
sakurai is stupid.
saying it's not a fighting game doesn't mean it's not one.
any fighting game is competitve so there goes his own vision of the games
>>344201036
>current year argument
Maybe there are people who really like Smash games and don't care about the exploits of top players.
>>344194841
>it doesn't have a stick
>>344201416
If Hbox wins Evo, I wouldn't be suprised if did die in the next few years. Mango is washed up and the only person to bring "hype" to the game.
>>344194497
Nope!
This is actually gross and wouldn't work well with any Smash game at all.
Nobody wants Melee to go full FGC and join a bunch of obese circlejerky weebs fyi
>>344201483
I have no idea why people are hung up over a fucking genre label. Melee has the staples of fighting games (neutral and footises, combos, techs, option selects, etc), who gives a fuck.
>>344201515
https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/25jx/melee/melee-netplay-guide
>>344201515
Dolphin has netplay
a GC controller and a adapter for it is also recommended
https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/25jx/melee/melee-netplay-guide
>>344201564
>the creator is stupid, he doesn't know what he's talking about
Go play some Virtua Fighter
>>344199334
Sakurai said Smash 4 is a competitive action game in his presentation for Bayonetta and Corrin.
While this is not a fighting game specifically, he did say it was competitive, and if Smash 4 is fucking competitive, then Melee is, too (despite having worse balance).
>>344201620
People say this every fucking year, it's hilarious. Melee isn't going to die in a long time.
>>344195517
>hitboxes are banned for every fighting game major,
No they're not, retard.
>>344194497
Arrow keys are not allowed in evo
>>344195517
>hitboxes are banned for every fighting game major
Except they're not. Not even EVO bans them. If you can play a fighting game on a Ps1 controller, on a keyboard, you can play it on one of these.
That said, anyone picking one of these up specifically for melee is just dumb. Those serious about it have been using a controller for the past 15 years, why use a new input method now?
>>344201620
>Hbox kills Melee
>is also only the only top Melee player with a job
he planned everything
>>344194497
>partyshit
trashed
>>344201752
I'd rather floss my teeth with your mother's butt pubes.
this is a """""""state of the art""""""" smash controller
>>344201483
Not really. I like fighting though. I also like racing.
Where's my fighting racing genre?
>>344201826
>despite having worse balance
they have equally terrible balance, sm4sh just has more viable characters due to having more of them.
>>344201950
git gud
>>344202004
nobody uses those
>>344201937
I'm pretty sure HugS has a degree in accounting, right?
>>344202004
No it isn't. Those are shitty classic controllers, no one uses them.
>>344202004
that's a wii u pro controller, retard
>>344202040
nah, melee's engine fundamentally gives more viability to lower tier characters due to the way it's built.
>>344201620
He got 3-0'd by a Falcon main and M2K, who he consistently demolished for over a year. His confidence is totally crushed. Even if he does win, it's not like the entire community is going to be like "I guess it's time to stop playing".
Sm4sh didn't die despite being total ass to spectate and Zer0 facerolling everyone for the entire first year of the game's life, so why would HBox winning a major that a lot of top players are unhappy about the ruleset of compromise Melee's competitive livelihood?
>>344202050
i play real fighting games sorry
>>344202137
i said top players.
>>344195517
>Meleefag poops in a pool and cause a health risk
Huh, I guess they are actually toxic in a sense when you think about it.
>>344201620
I doubt it after WTFOX. M2K Mango Armada wizzy are all big threats to him. While it's not at all guaranteed he's going to have to play wizzy he's almost certainly going to have to play at least mango and m2k and armada. We can just hope the psychological damage from WTFOX carries over.
>>344194497
>melee
>fighting game
>using digital inputs for an analog stick
wuh duh fug
>>344201850
He's won most tournaments this year
>>344202208
>melee's engine fundamentally gives more viability to lower tier characters due to the way it's built.
That's why every game is another Fox episode?
>>344200669
AFAIK Hitboxes let you access keyboard input shortcuts that normal controllers don't, that can give you an advantage. Being able to do really fast standing SPD's in the neutral game for example.
>>344202296
that's exactly why i told you to git gud. must be difficult playing a game where you can't autocombo your opponent to death
>>344202319
nobody proved that was a melee player.
considering FGC is full of niggers it was probably them
>>344202040
No, Smash 4 is way more matchup dependent, and it doesn't have a single character that invalidates half the cast (Sheik in Melee).
Also, having to know 58 or so matchups (which is incredibly difficult for most people) for every single character means that there are characters on the lower tiers that easily can slip through the cracks and surprise people, like LordMix with Bowser. He took 4th at a pretty huge tournament with a character who is mid-tier at the very best.
>>344202403
>fox only meme
>anime
kys
>>344202480
idk man, thefts were never reported at EVO until the year Smash showed up, and EVO was 90% nigs, while Smash is 99% pasty white autists or children.
>>344202480
>smash players not the autistic ones who have to wear diapers
lol
>>344202208
>that's a wii u pro controller, retard
google a fucking wii u pro controller you dipshit
>>344202480
>considering FGC is full of niggers it was probably them
Two things wrong
1. They have never done so previously and thus no basis for them to do so now
2. Why the fuck would a nigger be in a pool? To drown trying to swim?
>>344202582
6 fucking characters have won every significant tourney for like 10 years.
>>344202628
>Smash is 99% pasty white autists or children.
look at the top 100 and see how wrong you are
>>344202480
It was a Smash player though. The time it happened was when they weren't in pools
Nothing wrong with smash having its place on the competitive scene. But it still ain't a fighting game.
>>344202660
you're thinking of Smash 4 player who are literal childern
>>344202828
If they weren't in pools then how did they poop in one?
>>344202403
which chinese cartoon is this?
>>344202675
not who youre replying to but what u saw was literally a wii u pro controller. it has a home button for fucks sake
>>344202897
>But it still ain't a fighting game.
How so? I have literally never seen someone make a strong case for this, always resorting to "B-BUT SAKURAI SAID"
>combos
>option selects
>footsies
>high/low shielding
>teching
>anti airs
>rounds in the form of stocks
Melee having all of these makes it a fighting game, prove me wrong
>>344203026
it's a 3rd party controller though
>>344202785
Well here's someone who is widely regarded as being one of the best Melee players
>>344203024
Boku no Nyanpassu
>>344203120
shut the FUCK UP
not a fucking argument...
>>344203091
Sakurai said it was a competitive game for fuck's sake.
Pretty sure he recognized it in 2016 after all the tourneys in the past few years.
>>344202715
Are you seriously trying to argue that characters like ICs and Samus aren't viable?
>>344203091
Kek, melee doesn't have any of those. Try harder though
>>344203120
He's a bit of an exception to be quite honest.
I dare you to show me with equally deep knowledge and skill of a single game, though.
>>344203120
>bald spot surrounded by a hedge of greasy hair
Every time.
>>344203298
They're "viable" in that they're capable of making top 8, but they never win.
>>344203120
>>344203497
The difference between top 8 and first place is often a few hits. They're viable.
>>344203120
Funny how a person who actually has Asperger's is better at enjoying all the Smash games than typical Meleefags.
>>344203120
>>344199052
Mario Party brings out competitiveness in people. Mario Party confirmed fighting game
>>344201927
>That said, anyone picking one of these up specifically for melee is just dumb. Those serious about it have been using a controller for the past 15 years, why use a new input method now?
"Newspapers have been doing fine without having a digital version for decades! Why should they switch now?"
>>344203676
I enjoy Smash 4 but I would never call it a good competitive game.
>>344203565
>a few hits
Yeah fucking right. They get chewed up and spit out by the top players.
Except Leffen who was probably traumatized by someone dressed as Samus in the past.
>>344203091
>Rounds in the forms of stock
If this is the case stop doing 4 stock matches. I'm sick of your game going on forever AND you get multiple games on top of that? What the fuck. Either the stocks are a entire set or you have a small amount of stocks and multiple matches. Even 4 gets that. Why can't your game?
>>344203784
Sakurai did, and a lot Smash 4 players are sponsored, which is typically an indicator of a good competitive game.
>>344194497
how the fuck does choosing a direction with firefox/controlling ness' up+b/etc. work?
there needs to be a joystick imo
>>344203803
Axe sets are often last game last hit.
>>344203784
I disagree, that party game is just as competitive as the other party game
>>344203948
>which is typically an indicator of a profitable multiplayer game
ftfy
>>344203091
It doesn't have health.
>>344203120
m2k is cute!
>>344203987
Maybe when the game stops revolving around throw auto combos and stalling.
>>344203806
The problems is that stocks can sometimes end in 3 hits by characters like Fox and Marth, or one good grab by the ICs.
Having 2-stock matches would make the ICs much stronger.
>>344203969
>how the fuck does choosing a direction with firefox/controlling ness' up+b/etc. work?
Did you not watch the video where they explicitly show Fox's Up-B??????
>>344203806
Sm4sh gets two stocks and rounds still go on significantly longer than in Melee
>>344204109
It literally does, people just prefer percent because it's more volatile. if you want to make stamina mode the new meta feel free to try.
>>344204086
If people are watching (sponsors won't sponsor dead games), and it takes a clear demonstration of skill and understanding to win (as it does in Smash 4), it's competitive.
>>344204232
Well to be fair, the meta in Tr4sh is to get an early kill and run out the clock, shoutout to ZeRo the best player in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>344204153
>??????
kys
also yes, i did watch the video but it looks fucking absurdly complex and gives less options than the joystick
>>344204232
Mostly because people get 3-0'd less.
>>344203676
Why is that funny? Having Aspergers just means that your brain is missing the pieces that allow you to interact with other human beings socially without dropping your spaghetti.
>>344204121
>stalling
When's the last time you watched Smash 4? There is no stalling like there was in Brawl
>>344204431
>i did watch the video but it looks fucking absurdly complex
But you Smash children always brag about how complex your game is????? I don't understand why this is a problem?????????
>>344204406
>arguing about something that happened before the game was even out
lol
>>344204468
>he hasn't seen top Sonic players
>>344194497
>>344194656
Waaaay to complicated to use
Calling Smash a fighting game is like calling Telltale games visual novels.
I can see the point people are trying to make by saying 'BUT DEY FIGHING SO ITS A FIGHTING GAME DUH" but the term "fighting game" took a much stricter definition then other types of games. Just because they are doing physical act of "fighting" does not make it a "fighting game", much like even though telltale games have a lot of just reading, it does not make them visual novels.
Plus Sakurai said its not a fighting game, I don't understand why people even try to debate this anymore, its not a fighting game.
>>344204440
Because Meleefags are more socially inept eltitists than someone who actually has a social disability.
>>344204406
>Zero
>best player
Kek, how about you watch some matches instead of parroting what you've heard.
Zero has been getting bodied this entire year
>>344204406
>Sm4sh
>early kill
This never happens because magnet ledges and edge-guarding being significantly less effective.
>>344204560
not sure what a shit hitbox controller have to do with the game mechanics being complex
>Kickstarting soon!
>>344204270
Yeah, and TF2 has custom soccer maps, so I guess that counts as a sports game, right?
The meta, the main game, the competitive scene, EVERYTHING is based around the percentage mode. If you play it with health, then I guess you could argue that it's a fighting game, but when every tournament is percentage based, it's a party game.
>>344203120
This guy fucks your bitch then hops in his car and speeds away, what do you do?
>>344204662
This is a Melee thread, you were supposed to abandon your logic at the door
>>344204580
>he hasn't seen top Jigglypuff players
I can do it, too.
>>344203806
>this entire post
you don't understand enough about smash to be talking about it.
>>344204662
>BUT DEY FIGHING SO ITS A FIGHTING GAME DUH
Except that isn't the argument at all
See >>344203091
>B-BUT SAKURAI SAID
every time
>>344204715
It's better than nothing.
>>344203969
Watch the video, retard.
>>344204662
How are Telltale games not VNs?
>>344203120
>talking shit about m2k
So did the FGC stop shitting on anime fighting games to shit on Smash?
>>344204793
Jigglypuff is a shit character, so shit that there is literally L I T E R A L L Y only one guy who can get to top 8.
Hbox SINGLE HANDEDLY flipped the fox puff matchup on his own, its still widely regarded by top pros to be 70%-30% in favor of fox. Seeing Hbox weave in and out instant death combos at 30% is a skill only few can even fathom. His character can die from one upthrow upair while he has to combo the spacies into fucking oblivion with 50 bairs or a risky rest combo that if he misses he INSTANT LOSES A STOCK.
Hbox is the hero we need, the one who consistently got out-tier'd for his entire life, but he refused to switch to 20XX he fucking pioneered his own character so much to a point that NONE OF THE GODS can replicate it and they all play top tiers pretty consistent except puff.
He fucking won it all, He beat his demons in life when the odds AND fans were always stacked against him. /v/ hates him because they will never craft their own negatives lives into success like him
>smash players shit in pools
>smash players boo other games at events but still take up seats
>force tournaments to bring disgusting old crt tvs
>whiny white kids who are rude and smell like shit
>had to hire a "stink buster" for one of their tournaments
why is this allowed at evo again
>>344204998
We're just bantsing about anime fighters. They're actually pretty fun to play and some are even decent.
But smash is kid shit.
>>344204998
The FGC has literally never stopped shitting on Trash since Melee's release
>>344204735
Cool, percent is a better system than health regardless.
>>344203969
It would work extremely well, have you never seen a hitbox before?
>>344204903
learn to read the thread, fuckface
>>344204998
The anime fighter community doesn't complain when they don't get what they want and Melee always has been shunned by the FGC
>>344205006
That doesn't mean it isn't dull as fuck to watch, and he only has himself to blame when he dies at 40% to the strongest fucking up-smash in the game, which for some reason belongs to Fox.
>>344205135
git gud
>>344204151
So? You're dead in 3 combos depending on the character in GG too. One if it's a counter hit and they have meter. We have less rounds and time to boot. sf4 for the longest time had an inescapable vortex on wake up, unblockables and infinites and most characters died in a few combos. 2 rounds 99 seconds.
>>344204805
Please explain why you're above the standards literally every other game currently in rotation uses.
>>344205173
Never said it wasn't. But using percent instead of health makes it not a fighting game
>>344205229
>I don't understand thing so it bad
lol
>>344205107
Fuck you FGC, we pay the bills, we bring in the audience, we control the narrative. Smash is a proud grassroots community.
>>344194497
>Digital buttons labeled "Analog"
HAHA
>>344205342
Please, tell me just how well Melee was doing before JeBailey and Wizard saved you from obscurity because they wanted that sweet Nintendo money.
>>344205342
thats not street fighter 4 and v
>>344205107
>"stink buster"
Does the BO reach anime/comic/furry conventions?
>>344194497
Hitboxes or similar existsbecause the fact adults men play childish videogames and with hitboxes they look matures.
>>344204662
>Sakurai said its not a fighting game
Read "Death of the Author" you feeble minded plebeian.
>>344205342
5000+ entrants for Street Fighter. and Broadcasted live on national television for Street Fighter.
Can Smash say the same? No Yes I don't think There.
>>344205342
Delusional Smash player. Shoo shoo.
>>344205570
Big House 4 will have a stank bouncer to refuse entry to anyone with personal hygeine issues
yep
>>344205006
I think he's an amazing player and entertaining as fuck to watch vs spacies but I think he's a dick personally and it's fun to see him as a villain and root against him.
>>344205337
>a new controller meant to improve upon the old one makes something crucial to the game stupidly complex
ftfy retard
>>344205327
i never said that, you're talking nonsense.
imagine if i told you the each round in street fighter should replace each game
>>344205754
Nice concept but it sounds dangerous. The bouncer could just turn away people he didn't like for one reason or another.
>>344205612
Guess I'm gonna start the Mario Party fighting scene. Get hype for Evo 2017 bois
>>344196392
It was Leffen sending him that shit right?
I have no idea why anyone likes that prick, he's not even funny stuck up he's just a cunt with an inflated ego which isn't even put on
>>344205917
It better be N64 Mario Parties. The later ones are shit. SHIT!
>>344205917
I love this argument, because you're implying Mario Party and Smash are anywhere close to on the same execution level.
Smash is infinitely more complex, whether or not it's a fighting game.
>>344206024
At least one of the tweets was Leffen, and at least one was M2K
>>344206064
FGCucks prove in every thread they have no arguments against the game itself, just the typical "TOXIC COMMUNITY" and "SAKURAI SAID!!!" fallacies
>>344201483
No, everytime I attend one I wish I was at home fapping to traps and listening to vaporwave.
>>344203120
Is he the one who threw a dog out the window?
>>344199052
>Just because it has 4 players
Too bad that 1v1 get the most attention.
Melee was never intended to be a fighting game/competetive, that's why so much shit gets banned, because shit is not balanced
>>344206129
Which was the hand warmer comment? Cause that is the shit most people would joke about
>>344201483
Parties are great. Smash is probably the most competitive video game you can reasonably play with 4 or more people at a party, too.
>>344205878
But it's not complex at all, you're clearly the retard here.
>>344206281
the game is literally designed for you to be able to ban what you want and play how you like you retard
and whether it was "intentionally" made competitive or not is irrelevant, it's the best competitive fighting game being played at majors
>>344205878
That doesn't work because there's still two rounds standard. Even if they only counted the rounds, it would still be a best of 3. By comparison you would be a best of 7.
>>344201528
>a half circle and forward down forward are super complex to smash fags
I bet 720s must blow your mind
>>344196392
>private hand warming station
What do these look like?
>>344195517
Hitboxes are NOT banned anywhere. You are misinformed. In the very beginning they were banned from a couple of tournaments for Street fighter 4 because you could hold forward and back at the same time and always block. Street fighter released a patch soon after and it was over. It was poor coding in capcoms part as no other game did that, but hitboxes went and changed their firmware as well so that could not hapoen in case there is another lazy company like capcom. So hitboxes are not banned anywhere in the world. Now you know and knowing is half the battle
>>344206064
There's items and a bunch of stages. It also has Nintendo characters!
Melee has a buch of rules and bans so it fits a fighting game narrative. It's a party game
That looks really uncomfortable to use, like carpal tunnnel is imminent.
>>344206662
It's a competitive action game, as declared by Sakurai himself.
>>344206501
>it's the best competitive fighting game being played at majors
>>344200497
>>344199981
its not, they just try to break it as hard as possible, because the game is unfinished and bugged to hell and back
>>344205387
It's labeled analog because it's replacing the Gamecube's analog stick
>>344194540
So unless I misunderstood, the D-pad below the analog buttons on the right modify how much the control stick is "tilted"? That seems like a lot of effort to distinguish between a smash and tilt normal
No, calling melee a fighter is insulting it because you are comparing the skill requirement to that of games like SC, Tekken, or GG. The only fighting game that compares to the skill requirement of melee is third strike
>>344206829
So not a fighting game? I don't see anyone else calling SF or GG anything but fighting games
>>344202027
IGPX, its 3v3 fighting racing giant robots, think of it like F zero +gundams
>>344207169
pretty much. out of every fighting game at evo, melee is the only one with the depth to make it worth watching.
>>344206616
720s are performed in isolation for your command grab or w/e, moonwalking and sticky walking has to be used in tandem with other technical shit. It's not even close.
>>344207094
>>344207337
Why are Melee players this delusional? Do any of the top players think like this?
>>344207549
>I've never played Melee competitively: The Post
>>344206501
>designed for you to be able to ban what you want
Which other fighting game bans as much shit as Smash Bros?
>it's the best competitive fighting game being played at majors
No. The balance is horrible.I'd say that the most complex and best competetive fighting game was Virtua Fighter but it never really caught on and is now dead
I don't really mind smash at EVO, it's just smashpeople are annoying.
