>While dads are everywhere in games, mothers are almost invisible
>We've heard a lot about the dadification of videogames. The recent E3 games convention showed the likes of Kratos, Marcus Fenix and Corvo joining Booker DeWitt, Joel and Ethan Mars as tender-but-tough paragons of fatherhood.
>So where are the heroic moms?
>Game development teams — very often led by middle aged men — are happy to churn out fictional models of brooding, paternal excellence. But they take a very different approach to depicting motherhood.
>Polygon looked at a selection of more than 40 recent or recent-ish games featuring moms and mom stories, representing a cross-section of story-based games covering the last decade or so.
>We found that gaming generally treats moms as background narrative props for protagonists, very often dead or absent. Sometimes, older women with children are presented as anti-moms, whose quest for power concludes with sentiments of regret generally absent from games in which male villains are vanquished. Those women who are portrayed as positive mother figures are often not actual mothers at all.
>>344170341
Come on man, really?
>>344170341
NOT MOMMY!!!
>anti moms
this is just the stupidest shit
its like curing aids means youre anti-cancer
>>344170341
Shut up nigger
I'd be fine with more vidya MILFs
But jap games are always dad angst fests
>>344170341
Replied
>>344170341
This is cruel.
I've been wanting a game where you play as a mom/maternal figure for years now. There are so many recent games where you play as an older man protecting a young girl. I want to play as an older woman protecting a young boy.
Does that make me a SJW?
>>344170341
Fuck u b0ss
>Ruggarel now writes for Polygon
>you are still shitposting here
>>344170341
Good I hate my mom, oh wait shit
>>344170341
>>344169694
>White men need to make culture for women and niggers too dumb to make it themselves
>>344170341
didnt even read thread
>>344170767
no youre just a giant retard
learn to roleplay
>>344170341
Stupid frog poster
>>344170805
Who the fuck is Ruggarel and why do you faggots treat him like some sort of boogieman around here?
So, just like real life?
Moms are there to care for you from the background and dads are there to actually raise you and turn you into a proper human being.
Having a mom take an active role in the game would be weird. It would feel pushy as all hell.
Fighting with your mom in Bayo 2 was cool though.
>>344170341
Stop
>>344170341
Im saving my mom
>>344170767
I want a last of us clone, but reversed with /ss/.
someone call todd howard
apparantly fallout 4, a game where they have you as both parents as the main protag, doesnt exist
>>344170341
do it for her
>>344171002
Ah summer
>>344170341
>anything mom related
>instantly this meme reply
Epic
>>344170939
What does Mothers in a video game have to do with blacks vs whites?
>>344170341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW8zG-1l6YU
might as well reply to a meme with a meme.
>>344170341
Fuck you man
They don't seem to understand that for a long time the father was either invisible in media or the antagonist of some kind.
Having fathers be a positive, active figure in the lives of the child is a relatively new phenomenon in storytelling.
Even dating back to the myths of antiquity the mother figure was often more important to the subject than the father figure outside of political and economic standing.
>>344170341
She's all I have left
>>344170341
Joke's on you, I have immunity cat with me.
>people are giving the frogfucker (you)'s
summer in full force
>>344170341
memes
>>344170341
dam
>They didn't look at the best mothers game
>>344170341
fuk u
>>344170341
damn...
>>344170341
Fuck you.
>>344170341
NO STOP
>>344170767
fallout 4 pick nora
>>344170341
reeeee
>>344170341
Immunity cat'd
>>344170341
fuck off
>>344170341
Christ
>>344170767
This shit right here. Along with wanting Link to be a girl it's weird to say this shit for years and then SJW make it a thing their own reasons.
>>344170341
Fuck you nigger
I wanna play a game where you're a loving mother and raise a cute little boy.
>>344170341
You
ZTD just came out
>>344170341
FUCKING STOP
>>344171013
I hope Bayonetta has a kid in Bayo 3
>>344170341
Someone should report this man
>>344170341
Fuck you
>>344171280
oh they do understand
they merely interpret things differently
they think that the existance of one thing implies an antagonistic relationship between the other
basically:
>more dads means youre anti-mother
>liking x means you despise y
same stupid logic that drives the BLM or the SJW cult
>>344170341
fuck you
>>344170341
heres your (you)dont hurt my mum
>>344170341
Reply
I can think of one game where you play a motherVitamin Quest
>>344170341
Bastard
>>344170341
I'm not scared of you. I've got immunity cat on my side.
>>344171751
you fuck off you anime posting fucktard
>>344170341
>>344171546
This is a completely different situation.
Making Link a girl adds nothing, goes against canon, and changes an over 25 year old standard.
>>344171013
>women
>being proactive
>having active roles
too unrealistic senpai, even for videogames
>>344169694
Hopefully raped to death now fuck off with this polygon shit you fucking failed abortion
>>344170341
Memez
>>344169694
So what's the problem here, Polygon? Too many dads? Not enough moms? Here's your obligatory "make your own game" reply. You'd do more for gaming if you stopped writing your retarded bloated diatribes and developed games with your operating budget.
>344170341
>People still reply to this shit
>>344171924
Joan of arc nigga
>>344170341
Fug
>>344170341
No u
>>344171896
Whatever fag not the point.
>>344170341
Reply
>>344171873
(you)
>>344170341
too late:'(
>>344170767
Death Stranding
oh wait
>>344169694
Considering how much dads are undervalued in real life I think it's fair video games give them more credit than mothers.
Oh, and I hope every feminist on the planet is stabbed in the vagina with a machete until she's dead.
BYE-BYE
>>344170341
>>344171896
ironically theyre against blatant genderbent male characters
because its just X with a vagina
>>344170341
Am I the only one who finds all the replies to these kinds of posts heartwarming?
It makes me happy so many people on /v/ love their mothers to this extent, even if /v/ is nothing but anger and shitposting most of the time.
>>344170341
Must obey pepe
>>344170341
I love my mom
>>344170341
Immunity cat is with me you can't hurt my mother.
>>344170341
Fuck you!
>>344171896
How does it go against canon if Link is a different person in almost every game?
>>344170487
People bitch about how breast cancer awareness is over represented all the time, though.
>>344172189
Kill me, Pete
>>344169694
>>So where are the heroic moms?
The Last of Us 2
>>344170341
Don't
>>344170341
Fuck you
>>344172136
>IM A LE RETARDED ANIMEFAGGOT WHO LOVES TO GIVE FROGFUCKERS AND PEOPLE I CANNOT PROVE WRONG (you)'s
kill yourself please
oh wait
KILL YOURSELF OR YOUR MOTHER DIES TONIGHT
>>344172061
26-45 but who's counting
>>344172221
Yet you replied anyway you need to have more faith in immunity cat.
>>344172061
Pack it up. The death frog ruined a possibly great videogame thread.
>>344170341
?
>>344169694
I'm guessing they haven't played any video games made before 2010.
>>344172297
Because Link is being reincarnated in the same image every time, that is, a man in green.
>>344170341
well shit
>>344172385
leave /v/ for good and kill yourself or your mother dies tonight
do it you faggots
>dads are everywhere in games
>>344170341
...
>>344172061
Google failed, name? And fuck off with sadpsnda link give me the name or author. Please.
>>344171384
This.
>>344170341
Immunity cat?
>>344169694
chrono trigger had moms and dads, chrono cross had moms and dads. does that make them the superior games for including both?
>>344172454
Of course they didn't.
They think gay characters were a recent thing, despite Japan doing gay shit for years.
>>344170341
No pls
>>344172465
except it's only actually reincarnation a handful of times
WW link was some literal who nobody who had to fight and claw his way into bearing the "heroic spirit" and having the gods' favor
>>344169694
>what is the MOTHER trilogy
>>344169694
literally just off the top of my head i immediately thought of pokemon, the mom in FFXIII and the Boss. Also mom in isaac
>>344170341
Fugggg
>>344172465
He reincarnated as a gremlin once, and nobody seemed to mind.
>>344170341
Fuck man, no, I still don't know how to do taxes!
>dads are everywhere in games
???
>>344169694
MGS3
>>344172454
>all those kids
Justin fucked up.
>>344170341
>>344172692
Yeah that's nice what about playable moms.
>>344170341
GAY
>>344169694
didn't Undertale have a GOAT (both animal and greatest of all time) mother and a shit father figure?
why is this allowed?
>>344170341
fk u
>>344170341
NOOOO!!!!!
>>344172668
That's Linkle.
And nobody liked her because "she wasn't Link"
>>344170341
..
>>344169694
When i make my game, i'm going to have a mom be the protagonist
just wait /v/
>>344170341
You fuck
>>344170341
You sick fuck
>>344170341
I won't reply to this. I want to die
normal person: wow this trend is appearing a lot in recent video games i wish they would do something new for a change
mentally ill person: wow this trend is appearing a lot in recent video games how can we co-opt it so people learn the right messages from computer games
I'm sure even if more mothers appeared in games, SJWs would still find something to bitch about:
>She's too skinny!
>She's too pretty!
>She's not the main character!
>She's MARRIED?!
>She's straight!
>She's white!
>She's HYPERSEXUALIZED, unrealistic, and sexist!
>Xhe's gender binary!
>>344170341
Fug
>>344170341
Don't do this to me senpai
The Boss, Dr. Clark and EVA, Mother, Mother Brain, Samus, PokeMoms, Christa from Walking Dead, my Skyrim character... That's all I got.
>>344170341
I love /v/
I also want more vidya moms.
>The recent E3 games convention showed the likes of Kratos, Marcus Fenix and Corvo joining Booker DeWitt, Joel and Ethan Mars as tender-but-tough paragons of fatherhood.
dont forget le big dad XD
Are you people really this gullible?
>>344172957
>Christa from Walking Dead
:^)
>>344170341
This should be bannable.
>>344170341
Can we please ban this shit meme?
>>344170341
I hope you overdose on (You)s
>>344172802
how often do you play as a father really? She didn't specify playable moms.
Jade from BG+E was a mother figure to all those orphan kids. C. Viper from Steet Fighter is a Mom. That one bitch from L4D was a mom,
>>344170341
>>344172815
Undertale pushed new boundaries in vidya with diversity.
For them, it goes without saying.
>>344173021
Can't fool the willing
>>344172914
>She enjoys cooking?!
>She actually takes care of her children?!
>She isn't cucking her husband and legitimately loves him?!
>>344170341
Smelly dumb frogposting scum
>>344170341
BAZINGA
>>344170341
Good job mods
I hope my mom dies
>>344170767
same
>>344170341
Out of country, berflaffel
Only dads coming to mind are Flint and Johnny Cage, moms Hinawa and C.Viper.
Also
>stirring shit with a garbage non-issue once again
>>344170341
Dumb
>>344170341
Fuck off already.
>>344173048
Hey, be nice.
>>344170767You like /ss/ don't you faggot?
>>344173316
>NOOT NOOT
>>344173343what man of taste can say he doesn't?
>>344169694
>>While dads are everywhere in games, mothers are almost invisible
But that's the opposite of the truth.
It's always your mother or whatever who wakes you up from bed, and your dad is always off working or not even mention and never on screen.
Pokemon. Chrono Trigger. Azure Dreams. Earthbound. YU-NO. And if you allow grandmothers then you've even got games like Wind Waker and so on and so on.
And of course if you count games where both the mother and father are present then the list grows even wider with titles like Lunar or whatnot.
The list goes on. Relative to the presence of parents in games in general, the amount of mothers is by no means behind.
>>344173316
Thanks.
>>344172914
>She's MARRIED?!
you owe me a new keyboard.
>>344173316
I fucking love Kloah. Huge tits and /ss/ all day erry day.
>>344170341
Not taking any chances..
>>344170341
FUCK OFF
>>344170341
b&
>>344169694
Too busy manhating in the streets and claiming welfare and patreons.
>>344171503
Stop posting this! My mother is 98 years old! She has been in agony for 2 years now! Doctors can do nothing because of this fucking cat! Every attempt to end her suffering has been met with feline-based failure! Stop posting this! Let her die! Please!
>>344170341
Monster
>>344170341
>
>>344170341
Grandia 3
>>344170341
Bump
>>344170341
FUCK YOU!
>>344170341
go fuck yourself fag
>>344170341
>>344170341
I have no idea how posts like this still get (you)s.
>>344172304
Should be more prostate cancer awareness since it is a more common type of cancer.
>>344169694
Not engaging in super hot /ss/ unfortunately. Someone needs to change that.
>>344170341
DO A FLIP
i want a videogame mom
>>344173136
>She isn't cucking her husband and legitimately loves him?!
You know where to look if you need that.
He's got a pont, there need to be more games where you can experience a mother's love
>>344169694
I always thought it would be fun to have a game where you play as a retired bioweapon who gets saved from destruction by one of the researchers and in gratitude you become his wife. You'd have to manage your time between taking care of house chores, learning new techniques to become a better homemaker, and relieving your building homocidal tendencies as a living weapon. Later once you have a couple children you have to try and manage your time between spending time with your children and beating down the new alien invaders. Like if you spend all week doing house chores you might have to skip little Suzy's piano recital because the threat level in that area is high enough that you have to protect them from an attack, but if you spend all week fighting your house would look worse, you'd have less affection from your kids, and they might go hungry.
What kind of mom games do you think would be cool?
>Why aren't there more moms shooting people out in open worlds in vidya?
Pregnancy?
Nursing?
Housekeeping?
Gee I wonder.
>>344172914
You hit the nail on the head.
>>344169694
Honestly, I always liked the Pokemoms. They don't play too much of an important to role, but somehow I always found nice that I could go and visit them whenever I pleased.I also called them often, whenever I completed a quest or defeated a gym leader.
Also,Toriel.
>>344170341
Still replying for protection.Protect my father too, goddammit.
>>344170767
I'm against SJW bullshit agendas in general, but there are a few moments where such a thing is a positive endeavor, and this is an example of such an idea.
See, it's the same reason why FFXV has an all male cast. The creators specifically said that they wanted it to be that way because males have a very unique and interesting chemistry when around only other males, and it's the same for females, in a way. It could be really if pulled off correctly.
>Not a single mention of the greatest mother in all of video games
I mean, not to her ACTUAL child, she's actually kind of a shit mom to her. Does at least try to help her get the Jesus dick though.
>>344169694
If women were able to get into positions of developmental authority in game companies then they can feel free to make the games that they'd like. Companies like bioware for example are flag ships for this kind of example, the writing, story, and gameplay obviously suffers but is kept afloat by the numerous relationship options that neet girls and trigger haired feminists enjoy.
To each their own but to suppose that all companies must cater to niche models or ideals is not only ridiculous but is insulting to actual diversity. "we want more so make it so", how about you make it so yourself, if you want equal representation then represent yourself into these positions. There is no glass ceiling, women just aren't as driven as men, and equity should only go so far.
>>344174306
MAAAKOOOTOOO UUUNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>women
>in video games
>especially MOTHERS
Women in real life are entitled cunts who are weak, dumb and have no meaningful hobbies apart from make up, tan shops and talking behind their so called "friends". In rare occurrences they are interested in arts, sociology, gender studies or other shit nobody gives a toss about. If anything, they teach their daughters how to get what they want with pussy games and their sons that by being nice to girls the'll get anything.
Dads/males on the other hand, are DIY enthusiasts, they are interested in car mechanics, history, or tons of other interesting things. They crave adventures. They are strong and dependable, children look up to them and want to grow to be the same. Because that's dads that bring up their children to be aspiring and strong. How often do you see the story of kids who want to impress their DADS, not their mums? Constantly, if you haven't noticed already. Nobody wants to impress their mother! It's always the father that kids look for approval of.
On another note, as lots of anons in this thread said already, there is quite a lot of mothers in the games already, I'd wager there is roughly equal amount. They just play different roles than dads.
So I looked at the article and as expected it's nothing but AAA shit that's come out in the last five years. Off the top of my head I was able to com up with the following list of positive, living moms who love their kids:
C. Viper
Sophitia
Toriel
Terra (She adopts a village of children halfway through the game)
Does anyone else have more?
>>344169694
It's a regional thing.
Western games lack mother figures, Japanese games lack father figures. Just because one game can prove otherwise (GTAV with Trevor's mother, Pokemon RSE with Norman) doesn't mean it isn't the trend.
>>344169694
They're not wrong but they're making mountains out of molehills. These glorified bloggers are just people that really want to be nagging wives but can't get a husband so they turn video games and the internet into a surrogate husband to bitch at all day.
>>344175523
Camilla
>>344175257
>it's a "bitter mgtow" episode
What about Hinawa? I mean she got bodied to pretect her child and she's still here for you later, never leaving you.
You might not see it on screen but she was an active and loving mom
>>344175523
Fire Emblem has a bunch depending on how you play your cards.
There's Cooking Mama if you want to count that.
>>344176275
I think people are looking for a more active role.
wake up crono
its me ur mom, quit being dumb on the internet
>>344169694
>Pokemon Gold
>Mom manages your finances
Mom was clutch.
>>344169694
>— very often led by middle aged men —
Yes, exactly
So when are YOU gonna go make a game?
>>344172454
>We found that gaming generally treats moms as background narrative props for protagonists, very often dead or absent
>absent
You ain't seeing her again after leaving for the New World. Badass former pirate or no, she's the equivalent of a Pokemom.
>>344172043
>One example proves it!
That's like saying all men are faggots and citing you as proof.
>>344172957
Many JRPGs put more emphasis on mother characters than father ones though; like the mom that always wakes you up a la Chrono Trigger.
>replying to bazingaman
You should be banned for fucks sake
>>344174609
>people in this day and age unironically still like kreia, avallone's edgy mouthpiece he wrote to bitch about the setting
Why don't people give a shit about single moms in fiction? I can name several manga with single dad+daughter as the focus, but none with a single mom.
>>344169694
>these are games made by men who are fathers themselves and know how to write fatherly figures
>WHY DON'T MORE GAMES HAVE SIGNIFICANT MOTHER ROLES
Because women won't often develop video games because women aren't on average interested in video games.
>>344172304
In this world, tits are king.
>>344169694
>grow up with a single mother
>end up being a complete faggot who has to leech of society to survive.
>Grow up without a mother
>end up being a complete hardass who'll do anything to get the job done
>>344172043
Was a figurehead.
>>344170767
think of the porn
>>344169694
The fuck are they talking about? One of the most common game tropes is that your mom is there or at least remember about her but you never hear about your dad.
>>344174537
Right, it's why I'm pretty behind the idea of the boy band XV cast. That sort of dynamic isn't really tapped much in gaming, usually there's always a female addition to the regulars because of inclusivity, but people don't realize that does change the dynamic quite drastically.
I'm all for untapped group combinations in gaming. Brothers was another good example. Or maybe a game entirely of mothers. Whatever the fuck, as long as people are bringing a new genuine take to the table I'm interested.
>>344172454
They specifically said recent games, 6 years ago was last gen. They got a point; there is a huge under representation of cool moms. I'm just choosing not to give a fuck because its a dumb point, and I'll just play video games instead.
>>344172749
Creepy cat eyed fuck, I like him.
>>344170341
Matricidal Pepe
>>344177579
>a game entirely about a band of housewives getting involved in a neighborhood mystery
>>344174537
>and it's the same for females, in a way
CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT THERE NEW GHOSTBUSTERS
>>344177405
That's a mom?
>tfw big influx of milfs
I welcome this
>>344169694
>>We've heard a lot about the dadification of videogames.
Literally never heard of this
>>344177951
Games are aping the last of us. This is obviously a sexist conspiracy by the game industry to make us disregard our mothers.
>>344175523
Mother
Mother II
Every Pokemon game.
Does Junko from LoLK count? She's the primary antagonist, but she's doing what she does for the sake of getting revenge for what happened to her child, and the people she's getting revenge against are basically space elves.
>>344172189
Kill me, Pete
>>344177158
Every Pokemon game features protagonists with a single mother and missing father figure, with the exception of Gen III.
>>344177837
>bad examples of things are the only examples
Fuck you Dolores Claiborne was kino.
>>344169694
>>While dads are everywhere in games,
Wwwwwwhat?
What dads?
I've played more games with moms then dads in them than anything, most of the time we don't even know where the dad is.
Fallout 4 only came out a few months ago and you can easily play as a mom.
It was one of the things that I really hated about FO, beyond the fact that the pc was voiced in the first place, her personality is 100% based around her son. You walk into a nuclear apocalypse, immediately get over your dead husband and everyone else you know who is dead, walk through the wasteland ruthlessly killing anything you see and the second you start talking to someone you break down into treats crying about SHAAAAAUNNNNNNNN.
But still, my point is motherhood is basically all of Nora's character and that game just came out.
>Colin Campbell
>>344169694
>complaining about too many male characters.
>start to make female characters.
>then they complain about the female characters.
>>344178349
Nier, TLOU, Walking Dead, Witcher 3, etc
There's been a big influx of games where you play as a father or father figure, usually protecting your daughter or daughter figure.
>>344172189
Kill me, Pete
>>344178362
Both of them are obsessed with the shit kid. SHAAAAUN is the entire motivation for the game.
>>344178276
I'm just fuckin with you, man. I agree with what you said though and I wish it was done a little more often, since it's a fairly entertaining dynamic to observe.
>>344178263
Pokemon doesn't focus on the interactions between you and your mom, though. You can find tons of media that feature single moms, sure, but they don't focus on them. Look at Yotsuba&, Usagi Drop, Amaamato Inazuma, Sen to Man, etc. All these have a pretty big focus on the antics of the daughter and the single dad. Is there anything like that with a single mom, or are single moms just boring? I mean, I don't care about them at all, while I love single dad manga.
>>344172189
Oh finally.
Kill me, Pete
Come on mom
imagine being saved from a monster or bad guy by your mom
that's just weird man come on
>>344177972
Oh /v/ and your internet crusade against donkeys.
>>344178349
Honestly i can't think of many games with parents in them
how often are parents represented at all? I know in japanese culture the dad doesn't matter so its often the mom we see in anime and video games.
>undertake
>every recent pokemon game
That's like 3 examples already
>>344176985
STOP
>>344169694
>The recent E3 games convention showed the likes of Kratos, Marcus Fenix and Corvo joining Booker DeWitt, Joel and Ethan Mars as tender-but-tough paragons of fatherhood.
>Kratos killed his family
>DeWitt sold his daughteror tried to use her as a weapon of mass destruction
>Paragons of fatherhood
>So where are the heroic moms?
With those standards for paragoons of fatherhood, pic related is the most heroic mom in videogames.
>>344169694
You don't need much else besides The Sims, Harvest Moon, Cooking Mama and stuff like that. It's not like moms are a big demographic for video games.
Also, I see characters like the Maiden in Black / The Doll / Fire Keeper etc. as being maternal figures in games. For guys, that is their best role and the best way to represent them for appreciation.
>>344174306
>tfw Uno Makoto is stuck doing some dumb shit for various shitty ova companies
>tfw we'll never get the Futa-chan OVA he always wanted
>>344170434
>>344170462
>>344170648
>>344170702
>>344170796
>>344170813
>>344170893
>>344171491
>>344171492
>>344171503
>>344171535
>>344172696
>>344172971
>>344177804
what was it?
>>344169694
>ignoring how in every single Pokemon game, only your mom is raising you with your dad never even mentioned. (Except gen 3)
>>344178827
You're a male, presumably. Fatherhood is pertinent to you, motherhood is foreign and unattainable and therefore arbitrary.
>>344169694
Because the industry now knows that whole "more than 50% of gamers are womyn" bullshit is nothing more than a (Jewish) lie. So instead of catering to women, the devs (aside from catering to their usual demographic: young white men) are now shifting their focus on catering to the next biggest demographic: dads, especially white dads.
They have plenty of disposable income, after paying bills, buying necessities, etc. that they're able to spend money on other things. And when they have nothing to do (weekends or days off), they usually find something to do, which usually requires spending money. Why not make them spend their money on games?
It's a sound business decision to make games for dads. With all the focus on women, minorities, and other random special snowflakes, dads are eager to get some attention from someone--they'll even pay for it. Mother's Day is kind of a big deal that the leftist media constantly reminds you that it's coming, a week (or two) before the date, with a subtle feminist slant. Black History Month is a month-long reminder of how "important" black people are. Gay Pride... let's not even get started. Father's Day is nothing more than commercials selling shit to dads, showing very little appreciation for dads, because that's what the leftist media thinks that dads (and all men, in general) deserve.
It's time to honor and appreciate dads once again by making games that caters to them, and make money at the same time. It's a win-win for devs.
