Blizzcucks will defend this.
>>344159960
what am i looking at exactly
>>344160365
These are the hitboxes of all the hero weapons. If you shoot that far away from the head, you still get a headshot. Bullets, even hitscan ones, literally twist in the air and give headshots, not depending on the hitbox of the target, but of the hitbox of the weapon.
>that fucking hanzo
Literately triggered. Fucking cancer character.
>>344160365
hitboxes of training bots
>>344160534
Hitboxes of the weapons, you cuck. If it was the hitbox of the bot, the weapons should all be at the same height.
>>344159960
CAAAAAAAASSSUUUALLLL TEAM BASED SHOOTER.
Yeah, that aspect severely diminishes the fun of a lot of characters for me. If you're not somebody super fast, it makes it pretty difficult to deal with anyone who's a competent shot. And even characters like Genji have to deal with walking around corners into blind Hanzo headshots.
>>344159960
Source on this please.
The hitboxes are fucked, but this is the first I'm hearing of this specifically.
>>344160854
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4rocnb/info_out_of_curiosity_i_mapped_the_reticles_of/
inb4 >>>/r/eddit
At least someone is doing a job rather than just shitposting MERCY IS EVIL memes on a taiwanese woodcarving board.
>>344161002
I'm surprised that out of all the issues in Overwatch this is the one Blizzard hasn't said anything about, and it's a fucking GLARING issue.
>>344161175
It's not an issue, famalam.
It's a feature. That's working as intended for them.
>>344161251
Oh, I'm sure it's intended. It's just not something Blizzard should be leaving untouched. This is not acceptable in a shooter.
>>344160615
But hitscan weapons don't have a hitbox, so how can they be in different positions
>>344161310
They probably don't want to make the babbies first shooter too hard for the 12 year olds that are coming from LoL. Actually having to aim would be too toxic.
>>344161354
Seems like the hitscan heroes are the 'closest' to the actual hitbox. So the lowest line is the actual hitbox of the bot, everything above that is the 'hitbox forgiveness' by Blizzard.
>>344161494
Yeah I was confused by bastions but it think that it's on the bottom layer
If you think it's that bad, show me you're accuracy stat screen.
You should have at least 70% with every character.
I'm waiting.
>>344161175
Since the hitboxes somehow work differently for each class, I think this is how they wanted it.
>>344161669
It's a step above the lowest layer, so more forgiveness than the lowest.
>>344161798
Yeah doesn't make sense for a bit scan though, probably an error from bastions height I'm guessing
>>344161494
Yeah I'm sure knocking a centimeter off a hitbox will really be a gamechanger, what a stupid nonissue to be crying over.
>>344161251
>Having shitty hitboxes is a feature, ok.
>>344162131
Babbies first FPS can't have actual hitboxes when CoD can. Let that sink in.
>>344162170
>still posting that obviously erroneous webm when it's been proven that killcam replays are not what actually transpired
>solider 76
Fucking need fucking Hanzo if you're gonna give him such a forgiving weapon hitbox
Every game, there's always a one hit kill from a Hanzo who's just probing the area with full charge arrows
>>344161002
looked at one comment that was about training bots having bigger hitboxes than people. important fact that no one is going to bother realizing. All this test shows is that weapons that are harder to hit with have larger areas to hit and the forgiveness is broken into 3 tiers.
>>344162272
Two games with different objectives and styles, there's a reason everyone's examples use the training bots and stationary enemies, because it doesn't mean shit during actual gameplay when everyone is running and jumping around like mad.
>>344162738
Of course, so we need to blow the hitboxes out of proportion so people can hit enemies during these jumps and memesters just calling it a "fast-paced game" when it's the most slow paced piece of shit ever.
>>344159960
this would be a big deal if being good at this game had anything to do with aiming, which it doesnt (this is a good thing)
>>344162931
>FPS
>aiming is not important
Blizzcucks everyone.
>>344162931
you have no idea what youre talking about and are trying to shitpost a baseless argument because youre bad at the game
>>344159960
Whoever did this is an idiot. All of the hitscan have the same hitbox, and all of the Projectile weapons have the same hitbox. This has been known since before release.
>>344163147
>im fucking plying
Go make a webm proving it. Shitboxes have been confirmed since day 1.
>>344163027
The game is about effective team comp, switching heroes based on different threats, pushing as a unit, defending chokes, etc. not counterstrike measure your monitor and draw a sharpie retical in the center twitch reaction level autism.
>>344162738
>damage control
>>344159960
They balancing game with hitboxes. Fighting game doing it for years you know?
>>344163240
>aiming is bad
>having to have reflexes is also bad now
holy shit are you for real?
>>344163240
>if I call it autism that means I'm right
>>344163342
It's just the chosen style of the game, dood. Do you complain because there aren't first person camera's in side scrolling platformers or RPG-style leveling up in fighting games?
go play a game where twitch shooting is a key gameplay element (of which there are many) if ur that butthurt
ITT: People literally defending the lowest skill ceiling.
>>344159960
How do people make "objective" measurements like this in a game that is always online?
>>344163224
I'm not implying anything you retard. I'm flat out telling you that's the way it is, and it's a well-known part of the game.
It's why Hanzo's arrows are so fucking retarded. They have the same collision size as Pharra's rockets.
>>344163240
you literally sound like a counterstrike player arguing with a quake player
>>344163663
It's an artificially low skill ceiling in order to emphasize other aspects of the game. Don't like getting one-shotted by Hanzo? Learn the maps, have some map awareness, and don't walk blindly around the same corners Hanzos always shoot blindy at in EVERY match.
For how much you guys play vidya, it's surprising how little you understand about game design.
Why are people shocked? Have you seen their other games?
HotS is more baby friendly than Adventure Time Battle Party.
>>344159960
>>344162170
>not being able to log out of the game is a feature, ok.
>>344164025
This may have been a decent point if all maps weren't super simple chokepoints clusterfucks
>>344163224
>Go make a webm proving it.
that's a weird fucking request
can i demand shit from you too
>>344163893
hm two people arguing about different games with radically different objectives i wonder why i literally sound like that
This game is fucking ASSFAGGOTS in first person. It is not a competitive shooter intended to have realism and super tight hit boxes with a high skill ceiling. It's a skills based arena battle in first person. Think of your crosshair as your mouse in league of legends or whatever moba you play.
You're trying too hard, and are just mad that a hanzo can headshot you.
Honestly, this should be really good news, because now YOU have the knowledge on how to actually get headshots and win the game.
Maybe if you had an ounce of spatial awareness and skill, you'd stop spending enough time dead to analyze the slight auto aim to compensate for the ridiculous characters and weapons and gameplay.
So perhaps take these hit boxes and, instead of bitching about how some d VA got some bullshit headshot on you so this game is broken and bad, GET FUCKING GUD
Why is this post >>344161678 still ignored?
>>344159960
>implying it matters
>implying since it goes both ways its literally balanced
get mad lol
>>344163556
>>344164025
>>344164545
>Shitlizzard shilling division AT FULL FORCE
ew cancer
>>344164551
>game that is played as a professional sport is so easy a baby could play it
oh okay why dont you play it professionally then? seems like an easy way to make a ton of money
>noreply.ogg
Where were you when any Call of Duty game was better than overwatch?
I was sitting at my computer and I saw these hitboxes and I realized call of duty is better
I-its okay when Blizzard does it!
>>344159960
There is technically, literally, metaphorically, figuratively, subjectively, objectively, illiterately, nothing wrong with this.
>>344164551
Because op proved with evidence that your precious """""""""masterpiece"""""""" is actually a low-skill retarded joke of an fps.
He proved his point, while you haven't done jackshit to the discussion besides acting like an underage throwing a bitchfit. Get real for a second, asshole.
Yo >>344164845, >>344164545 here
I don't even really like this game. It's okay, but I can only play like three rounds at a time before it gets boring and repetitive.
I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about fairness and how games "should" be made to cater to their retardation.
I have friends that do this literally constantly, instead of just working on their skills at the game, they just bitch and bitch about how everything that kills them is broken and how fucking riot/blizzard/Nintendo/etc is the worst company for allowing them to be killed by anything, the game should just allow them to not ever die, and be able to one-shot everyone else. Then they would be happy.
I don't even know why these people play video games, when all they want is to put in no effort and see dat sweet victory screen
>>344164491
also the arguments you're making are exactly identical
>it's about team play, coordination and positioning, not mindless twitch-shooting for autistic!
>>344164545
>Honestly, this should be really good news, because now YOU have the knowledge on how to actually get headshots and win the game.
>literally advocating 6v6 hanzo
cancer
Ahahaha I found all the people who play this game like an arena shooter, too bad it didn't have any of your battle ID'S :^)
>>344162272
It's literally a feature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
Blizzard made a console shooter, so they had to dumb it down for gamepads and didn't change anything for mouse and keyboard.
>>344163240
>The game is about effective team comp, switching heroes based on different threats, pushing as a unit, defending chokes
this really isn't doing your game any favors
>>344168895
>people think this shit is appropriate for a competitive environment
What a fuckin joke dude
>>344162170
It's just Bullet Magnetism. Many shooters have had this before Overwatch was even an idea in the head.
>>344161678
This point is moot since the game encourages you to spam recklessly with the infinite ammo, chokepoint: the maps and instantenous full clip reloads.
>>344169445
>bullet magnetism
Is that what casuals are calling it now? It's aim assist, created for gamepads.
>>344169209
literally no one thinks Overwatch is a competitive game.
>>344169525
aim assist is when your ironsight or crosshair snaps to your target, it's a different thing.
>>344169525
No, in this case, it's called Bullet Magnetism.
Aim Assist is where the reticule locks on and slows down on the ttarget, helping console players stick on moving targets better.
Bullet Magnetism is where the shots gravitate to the "center" of a hitbox if the reticule is near.
They accomplish similar things, but they are very different from one another .Overwatch doesn't use aim assist, it uses bullet magnetism.
>>344169674
*except overwatch players
>>344169874
not a single Overwatch player thinks it's a competitive game.
>>344160686
Everybody has the same hitboxes as you, shoot back.
And if someone is zoning and you walk into it, then shit, thanks for feeding my ult.
>>344169919
really? not a single? no hyperbole?
what are you willing to bet on this?
>>344169984
I will literally bet nothing.
literally.
>>344169674
Yet it still has a competitive mode, just like HotS and Hearthstone.
Blizzard wants that sweet e-sport cash. So much so that they have to pay teams to play their shitty games.
>>344169674
>>344169919
Weird, I was under the impression people seem to think that Overwatch is a good competitive game considering there are daily threads made about it.
Unless they're made by shillswhich isn't out of the question
>>344159960
I don't care because I'm still having fun after 56 levels.
>>344170360
That's the best kind of attitude. The fucks above who just brainlessly defend it are retards, though.
>>344159960
>cucks
Nigger thread with nigger memes.
>>344159960
It's not really as noticeable when you actually just play. People have all kinds of abilities that let them move around or block/deflect attacks anyway so precision is barely a key factor in being good at Overwatch.
It looks bad when you actually test it, but you'd probably never notice in-game with all the other bullshit that's happening.
>>344170360
I got bored at level 11. How can something so shallow keep your attention for 56?
the whole game has casual bumpers everywhere. big fuckin surprise
>>344166053
Because that works REAL FUCKING WELL in practice, right?
>>344170104
The game is good because it's fun, not because it's competitive.
You're allowed to enjoy casual games you know.
>whole time i thought I was good, but actually the game is casual as fuck
>>344170909
Friends
>>344159960
So thats why i can't seem to headshot people as mcree, he's not as fair as mercy, hanzo and mei.
weow
>>344159960
hold your fucking phone because I tested this and zenyatta does NOT share the same hitbox with Hanzo. Also test on an actual player character you reddit autist
When did vidya became so luridly casual they would bend over and defend dumbing down the fps genre and call it "innovation"?
On reddit, this is a controversial comment (as shown by the cross next to "1 point"). Do you manage to imagine the level of delusion.
>>344169468
>moot
Who?
>>344175084
>When fallout 4 has better gunplay.
Didn't we have the same complaints about Street Fighter 4 being casual and low skill because commands don't take fractions of a millisecond to execute anymore? It's like nothing ever changes here.
