Do you still stand by this list, /v/?
I stand by this list
>>344155865
>tf2 at No.9
wat
>>344155865
Where's Fallout 4?
>>344156368
in the 10,000's
>>344155865
You'd expect New Vegas to be higher since people won't stop talking about it.
>>344155865
Anyone who complains wasnt around for the threads and all the voting.
Still fairly accurate.
I only stand...by myself
>>344156215
>No .hack// in JRPG
>>344156440
there is a difference between talking about something and circle jerking about something
>>344156215
That's a pretty decent list
>>344155865
>>344156215
One day I would like to just take these lists and start from the top.
>>344156510
As someone who's played all of them I support their exclusion. I liked them but I wouldn't go as far as calling them essential.
>>344156510
The games have a nice setting and good story. The gameplay is horrendous.
>>344155865
Wind Waker is too high
Left4Dead shouldn't be on there
Ratchet and Clank GC or UYA should be on the list
>>344155865
>bethesda shit
>mass effect
so far not looking good.
>>344155865
Where's Overwatch ?
>>344156215
>not this
>this meme echochamber bait list is being posted again
hurr snake eater and portal us gamers rite XD
>>344155865
I never did.
It's not a bad list but my personal tastes don't really line up with what's /v/core.
>>344157146
In the 100,000's
Pretty good, I'm glad they remembered to put TWEWY in there. Good position for it too.
>>344156215
Did somebody really put a bunch of arcade games for sport? A fucking mario game?
This place is godawful. There's Madden NFL 2005, Winning Eleven Soccer 6, NBA 2k2, NFL 2K1, NBA 2K13 Fuck. And did you really put a ps2 ace combat game over 2?
>>344158338
>Caring about sports games
>>344158338
Sports simulators are one of the most boring genres
I'm not a big fan of /v/'s picks for the genre either but were you really expecting anyone to list EA Sports games?
>>344158338
The 3ds remake is better than the original 2
>Starcraft 86
>/v/
>>344156215
>Sonic Adventure
>essential anything
That game is so fucking dogshit
>>344155865
I don't see a bloodborne on that list
>>344157358
hurr fuck mgs and portal us gamers right xddD
No /v/ taste is pretty shit overall also stained by nostalgia goggles.
>>344156215
>Half Life 2
>not the original Half Life
Yeah, okay.
>>344155865
>Mother 3
>Snake Eater
>Dark Souls
>OoT
>TF2
>all in the top ten
Holy shit I forgot how cringe /v/ was back in 2011
>>344156215
>WarioWare
>puzzle game
Excuse me, what?
>>344155865
>DOOM at no.34
>>344157182
It really irks me that Heart of Darkness and Another World get a pass for being cinematic shit with barely any mechanics and also BRUTALLY short, but Gears of War and Uncharted aren't allowed on the list.
>>344155865
>Deadly Premonition
>>344155865
What makes Mother 3 the second greatest game of all time?
>>344161741
Play it
>>344161982
It's hardly unique or original that's for sure.
>>344162121
>someones twitter and a wikipedia
good one.
>>344162121
What kind of authority do you have to say what games "should" be praised for first and foremost?
This may come as a shock to you, but people's tastes differ and they might like games for different reasons.
>>344162362
>>344162362
Games are meant to be played for gameplay and a game that brings essentially no worthwhile gameplay innovations does not deserve to be touted as one of the best in the medium, especially when its focus is on story. If you want a story, read a fucking book, faggot.
>>344155865
Sure why not it's
>Mass Effect 2
>ahead of Hitman: Blood Money, SM64, Bg2, ALttP, HoMM 3 and almost all the other titles
fuck this shit
>>344162536
Games can tell stories in different ways than books can. You can't interact with a book's world or influence the outcome.
>>344155865
Yeah, I still stand by this list.
It's a good list and we shouldn't fuck with it too much because it's probably the most solid top 100 I've seen.
it'd be wrong to give in to whims of the time to amend it just for amending its sake.
It's a strong list that I am proud of and will stand for years to come.
>>344162536
Hey you should read this post big guy
>>344162362
Mother 3 in 2nd
Planscape Torment in 18th
Shit list
>>344162675
Damn. This is almost as good as Fallout 3 with 200 possible endings.
>>344162675
That doesn't mean jack shit and doesn't assure why Mother 3 should be considered one of the "greatest" GAMES ever. If it brings nothing new in terms of gameplay that flips the medium on its head, then it's just an interactive story. It's Uncharted, it's sotc, it's gears, it's cinematic.
>>344163006
SOTC is pretty unique
>>344163261
In terms of gameplay, no. Grip gauges have already been done before.
>>344163006
this is how I can tell you haven't played it.
The final boss fight is pretty innovative in order to survive it. Most of the game is innovative which is even more impressive considering it came out at a time when it seemed like turn based RPGs had been stalled out for a long time and brought nothing new to the table.
I do not believe games are art but if I had to make the case for it Mother 3 is one of the few games you can point to since it sort of transcends gaming to become something beyond the medium of video games.
>>344163261
It's not polished. The horse is borderline uncontrollable, the platforming is uninspired with only a grip gauge added to make it somewhat more challenging but fails miserably as it's hilariously broken and exploitable with little fault for error as it's nigh impossible to die.
And I understand the game is supposed to be uncomfortable to play because it's supposed to be about how far you will go to save someone, but you see the issue with that is, I'm not given any player agency as to whether I want to do this, so it's just a scripted story, and I'm not given any reason as to WHY I should save this person. And the game fails to be challenging as the only somewhat difficult parts are controlling the horse well enough to get some where.
Everything else is easy and borderline casual because there is no world diversity, therefore finding the colossi is just running around until you find one, then going through motions of climbing the damn thing and stabbing with once again little fault for error. It's as if the developers tried to create this groundbreaking, life-changing magnum opus art piece, but fell asleep and gave up when it came to setting the basic rules and purposely making shitty horse controls. Everything else is just a victim of laziness and lack of creativity.
Now fuck off and play Robotron an actual good game. One of the best of all time and was ACTUALLY innovative and inspired.
>>344163006
90% of games do not innovate
The assumption that games have to be 100% about gameplay is just an assumption made by you.
Games are unique in the fact that they're a visual means to story telling, like movies, but with the addition of interaction.
In short, opinions.
Cry more about a list voted on years ago by quite possibly thousands of anons.
>>344163345
>if its be done before its shit
great bait friendo
>>344163345
Alright, then let me ask you: what truly unique one-of-a-kind games in terms of gameplay would you put in the top 10 that truly deserve it?
>>344163645
If it doesn't do nothing new in terms of gameplay, then yes, it's shit
Someone post the 2016 version
>>344155865
It's like 90% there. some things like TF2 and HL2 are just out of date though.
>>344163728
good one.
>>344163678
Crystal Castles, Burger Time, Qix, Roadblasters, Defender, Joust, Paperboy, Tapper, etc.
>>344163840
not a counterargument
>>344156215
>>344158338
>no NBA Streets Volume 2
>>344163873
That's actually pretty solid anon
>>344163968
>arcade games
Only simulation allowed.
>Hat economy service game in a top ten of all time
>>344163961
You didnt make an argument
You typed out something dumb and want (you)'s
>>344163581
You're not naming any groundbreaking gameplay innovations. You're just saying it's innovative. At its root, it's just a basic turn-based rpg with little to no roleplaying. It's not special, unique, nor innovative and hardly a game to boot.
>>344164169
So you're saying you play games for story? You ask anyone the reason why they'll defend Mother 3, it will only be because of story, characters, atmosphere, music, and other useless barometers. Not one mention of gameplay, the reason to play a game, and for that alone, it is generic and barely a game.
>>344164526
>So you're saying you play games for story?
Pretty sure I typed out
>You didnt make an argument
>You typed out something dumb and want (you)'s
Ive never even played mother anon. Getting you's from you is fun.
>>344164280
Obviously you haven't played it because each chapter is unique and something I have not experienced in vidya.
Your claim that it's cinematic is just silly and shows your lack of knowledge of video games.
>>344162724
>Dark Souls in top 10 but not original Metroid or SotN
>solid list
(you)
>>344164743
What is unique about it from a gameplay perspective? What is original about its mechanics?
>>344155865
Retarded fanboys used a bot to put deus ex on first place. Also the rest of this list is shit.
>>344156215
>no metal arms
Shit list
No one ever talked badly about that game
>>344164280
If you limit yourself to only playing games that are entirely unique, then you are excluding like 99.9% of all games.
>>344165334
If it hasnt clicked hes pretending to be retarded for you's
>>344164526
dont ignore me you shit
>>344165485
>pretending to be retarded
If you like story games that bring absolutely nothing new to the table, go fucking read a book, plain and simple.
>>344165334
Not really, you just have terrible taste and cannot think objectively.
>>344165652
good one
>>344165334
He's got a point. Why is it that Mother 3 is special, yet didn't do anything new gameplay-wise, but Final Fantasy manages to reinvent itself every time gameplay-wise and push jrpg's further?
>>344155865
holy shit dark souls is not that good. did you actually fall for the "ITS SO HARD" meme
>>344155865
Shit list
>>344165803
Back to >>>/reddit/ with you. You're in a place full of game enthusiasts, not shit-eating casuals that much up any random cinematic experience.
>>344166001
Much better. But take off paper mario and replace wind waker with original zelda.
>>344166001
Oh wait, I missed the pokemon games. Take that off right away. And pikmin too. babby's first rpg's and rts's. Put rFactor and Gran Turismo 2 on there somewhere
Devil May Cry 3 is a hundred times better than mother 3, planescape: torment, morrowind, etc. There is no debating, go back to where you came from if you think what is basically "movie games" are even near a top 10 of the greatest games ever.
>>344166001
>kept snake eater
almost
>>344156215
Rhythm game section is a mess.
>>344155865
Change OoT with ALttP, kick TF2 for Diablo 2 and I agree with the top 10.
>>344155865
Why the fuck is half life 2, and team fortress anything on there at all?
>>344166001
Cross Deus "Flawed as fuck" Ex and Half "Cinematic Experience" Life 2 and we are good.
>>344159404
That list is old as fuck tho.
>>344164052
sixths
>>344166001
>cuts DOOM from the list
>keeps Tetris
People like you should get fucking banned.
>>344166031
People have been telling me to head back there for years now. Ive been here for almost a decade and Im not leaving.
Maybe you should go friendo
>>344156497
Like every tree
Stands on it's own
Reaching for the sky
I stand alone
I share my world
With no one else
All by myself
I stand alone
I've seen your world
With these very eyes
Don't come any closer
Don't even try
I've felt all the pain
And I've heard all the lies
But in my world there's no
Compromise
All by myself,
I stand aloooooooone
>>344155865
>people who've never played deus ex voted for deus ex
>>344155865
Is grand theft auto 4 really that good?I've only ever played pre ps3 360 GTA games.
>>344155865
>Half Life 2 above Half Life 1
>Half Life 2 on there at all
>Majora's Mask below Ocarina of Time
>Wind Waker below Majora's Mask
>Kingdom Hearts
New Vegas is good, but not better than Fallout 2 good.
Should we make a new list?
>>344168483
undertale will be on it
So which one of those have god tier soundtracks to boot?
>>344168556And rightfully so.
>>344165748
>thinking objectively about video games
>>344168596
Music is irrelevant when playing a game. You play a game for gameplay.
>>344169331
well duh I'm just plainly asking which one of them has a good soundtrack because this is a rec thread
>>344162675
>not reading choose your own adventure books
>>344169491
It's not a rec thread. It's a thread asking if they agree these are the 100 best games of all time.
>>344157182
one per series.
Has pokemon Heat Gold and Soul Silver.
>>344155865
>Meme, the list (featuring bad taste from the shitlord series)
>>344169802
what better way to get recommendations than from a "100 best games of all time" thread?
>>344156215
>That fighting game section
what casual put this shitty list together?
>>344168337
Majora's Mask is shit and HL2 is the GOAT, deal with it smallson
>>344157003
Mass effect 1&2and 3are fantastic games.
